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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jesmond3945: 9:47am On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94:Good maths skills and algorithm design and analysis Good use of c++ and python ethical hacking and vulnerability testing good use of wireshack for traffic good use of linux and matlab good use of latex good use of fpga for prototype development knowledge of quatum computing. For your case start with strengthening your programming skills. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jesmond3945: 9:49am On Jan 14, 2020 |
LagosismyHome:cissp and ceh is okay. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 10:23am On Jan 14, 2020 |
jesmond3945: Thanks ... noted |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by funlola87: 11:16am On Jan 14, 2020 |
Good morning people, Please a quick one, for tier 2 dependant visa, does the dependants' 630 pounds also have to be in the account for three months or is it just the primary applicant's 945 pounds? Main applicant had been in the UK for 3 months now and wants to bring his family in. Thank you. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 11:22am On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94: The CISSP is the Premier League of all security certs. Forget about what you read about so many people having the certs na lie; here is the link that shows the number cert holders worldwide. In UK, there are only 7500+ CISSPs, that is not enough for Borough of Kent alone not to talk of the whole of UK. https://www.isc2.org/en/About/Member-Counts# Passing the tough exam is not enough you need 5 years verifiable experience and a CISSP credential holder in good standing to endorse you. Most people want to get into Security because it is in high demand and very lucrative. The analogy I give most of the time is assuming you are a physical security guard employed to guard a big mansion, how can you securely guard the mansion without knowing the rogue entry points? What I am saying in essence is, you need to know systems hardware and software configurations, IT networks, Operatings systems, most recently cloud infrastructures, IoTs, in short everything that could be exploited and then think like a malicious intruder. It is very hard but doable! For example, Target stores in US had a data breach that affected about 60m people and cost them like $18m fine where credit card information were exposed. How did it happen? the attacker piggy backed on the vulnerable network of their vendors who maintain their refrigeration systems. You can adequately protect yourself/environment but you'll always have weak link. This just shows there are so many attack vectors and a security expert has to be thinking of how to plug all the holes. Goodluck as you venture into it. ![]() 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Nobody: 11:48am On Jan 14, 2020 |
jesmond3945:Thanks cc Aphrodite007 , as you can see programming is involved. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
wonlasewonimi:damn!!! It is almost impossible to be 100% secured. these cyber guys are too smart, just look at where they came in from |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 12:12pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94: Helloooo, in the past year BA, Marriot hotels, Equifax and most recently Travelex have been breached. It is not a matter of if orgnisations are going to be breached, it is a matter of when! The main deterrent is they dont want to go to jail. These guys are motivated and have all the time in the world to wreak havoc, as a matter of fact security guys are miles behind them. Hence, the demand for the skill. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 12:15pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94: You don't need to know shiit about coding except you want to be a Pen Tester (whitehat hacker) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 12:36pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94: Shortage means there are more jobs than applicants in that area . ............ I know someone who was trying to build a team regarding IT security in the UK , he said the jobs they posted , there was no single applicant with relevant experience that applied . But some areas like admin or customer service you can have 100 qualified people apply for one job . That is what shortage of skills means Not sure where you got the bold from , do people get IT certificate just for the fun of it. To even pass some of these certification , you need the skills to begin with or some experience 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 7:01pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Haba Pasitor & Pasitors wife.......... ![]()
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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Aphrodite007(f): 7:08pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Simran94: Baba I dey tell you, you won’t need to code in cyber security. Power shell, yes, MCSE, probably. You just need knowledge of cloud computing. Normally as an technical person, they would expect you to have basic knowledge of programming. I’m not a coder but I have basic knowledge that can allow me brag at interviews. That’s all. If you get into the role and they now ask you to code, you watch YouTube and code. Simple. 90% of coding is reused anyway, so you’re allowed to google. Also, not all adverts know what they are asking for: IT and Med are complex fields to employ for. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Aphrodite007(f): 7:11pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: This is what I’ve been saying. If you’re a sharp person, you’ll learn on the job and they won’t even know that you don’t know. Just have the certificate to get your leg in. I once had a QA that didn’t know shit. Guy was even earning more than me sef, can you imagine? And I was the one teaching him his job. Now if you see how good he is, it’s unbelievable. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Aphrodite007(f): 7:15pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
wonlasewonimi: Me I’m even tired of arguing. It’s ok, to each his own ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Aphrodite007:Okay |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 9:43pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Mimzyy: Congratulations sis. Onto the main course. All the best 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 9:49pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Lexusgs430: It's so sad and disheartening and the wife enabled him so much. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:28pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
fatima04: All in the name of binding and casting......... Not new, remember Glory church Barking? Their MOG was sleeping with boys from his congregation...... Or is it Victory church? Too many to mention......... |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Mimzyy(f): 10:30pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by teejay231: 11:29pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
I am a software developer and I have also dabbled in security. As a developer, if you don't have the basic security skills then you will never get anywhere. Most computer science programs in the UK teach you all the relevant skills and then it's up to you to focus on your specialty or what you want. jesmond3945: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by teejay231: 11:37pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
One of my previous managers didn't have a college degree nor any certifications and he is currently Head of Engineering. It's all about skills and work experience. Almost every engineering position requires a technical assessment, so bluffing in your CV or interview will not help if you don't have the skills. LagosismyHome: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by teejay231: 11:44pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Not sure how anyone can understand cloud infrastructure without some basic coding skills. From my experience, every technical position in the UK requires a technical test / assessment to ensure that you can do what you say you can do. Sometimes you can do it at home and other times they want you to do it in their office in front of a few people or as a peering exercise to see how you work with other people. One thing I have also learned is to never lie or brag on your CV. Better to say you don't know something but willing to learn and focus on what your strengths. Aphrodite007: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jesmond3945: 11:47pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
teejay231:security is encompassing. people in mathematics are doing it, people in computer are doing it, people in engineering are doing it, people in mgt are doing i. That you are doing https and tls/ssl is not where security begins or ends 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by teejay231: 12:04am On Jan 15, 2020 |
jesmond3945: Not sure why you would be so condescending and assume that I don't know where security begins or ends. If you must know, my background and experience is vast. I am currently a dev as it was my passion and it doesn't feel like work. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 12:06am On Jan 15, 2020 |
teejay231: Many self... not just Engineering . I met many British people with no degree who are high up. Relevant work experience is everything 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jesmond3945: 12:16am On Jan 15, 2020 |
teejay231:i am sorry but i cast aspersion on your view that s3curity is not in demand, infact it is more in demand than sw dev. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by claremont(m): 1:18am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Lexusgs430: He has been suspended from the register and would most likely not return to it.
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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 1:53am On Jan 15, 2020 |
claremont: You're very polite......... ![]() |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Gundi: 1:58am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Thank you all for the information you have been putting out on this thread. Kudos to Justwise, Lexus, Fatima and co. I've learnt quite a lot. I practically read from page 1-261, for over three days now, and I have learnt a whole lot!!!!. But please, pardon me as I'd like to ask some questions; they might be too much, but as per JJC that I is, abeg help una boy o... So I have started my personal search for jobs in the UK, through some of the job platforms mentioned earlier, and I am hoping for a positive outcome. My main questions are; 1. I'm thinking of paying an agent to help with the whole process, as I've never done anything related to Visa before, never travelled out of the country before either, so I feel maybe they'd help me get a job faster, and I can get a COS from a sponsor. Do you guys think it's okay, or I should continue with my personal search and keep hoping? 2. From all the discussions so far, it seems the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me. I'm an Art Director, my basic skills set are Graphics design, Motion Graphics and Video Editing. I just want to confirm that the Tier 2 Visa is what will work for me, right? 3. From all the conversation on this thread, I've learnt that with the Tier 2 Visa, I can also apply for Tier 2 dependents, and have them relocate with me, once I can get a COS. But most of the people I've seen here that applied for Tier 2 dependents were already married, and even with kids, so the whole family would just relocate. The thing is, I am not yet married, but I have a girlfriend, and we quite have a very strong relationship. I want to know, when I eventually get a Tier 2 Visa, should I register her as a dependent, even though we're not married yet, and she's not relocating with me yet, as she's currently running her Masters,and won't be through till the end of this year. Would she still be able to come to the UK next year as a dependent, provided I can make available proof of funds, since the COS maintenance fee for dependents would have expired? I'm thinking of going to the UK first, and work for at least 1year, to get financial stability and accommodation in place. Then come back to Nigeria for the wedding, and then have her come back to the UK with me? Will this be possible? 4. If this would be possible, and I've already registered her as a dependent, would she still be able to get a visiting visa without the Home of Office thinking that she won't leave the UK, since she's on my dependent list already? Sorry for the long epistle, but as a JJC that I is, I just want to know all available options before everything puts in play. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by umarwy(m): 7:52am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Gundi: 1. You read the whole thread and you still want to use agent?? OYO 2. check out the UK shortage of occupation list to see if your skills are in demand. T2 is the visa for those who get an employer that's willing to sponsor/endorse your visa ( I hate the word sponsor it deters a lot of employers) 3. You can get register her once you are married no need to rush. And if you are planning to work for a year before she joins you, you no longer need maintenance prove from the cos. You should have required funds in your account. 4. ... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Gundi: 8:06am On Jan 15, 2020 |
umarwy: Lol, boss thanks for the reply, it's just desperation o, I've been getting feedbacks quite alright, and most of them have been saying *thank you for your application, we'll get back to you*, so I just thought maybe using an agent would make it faster, and more efficient. � But, I think I'll just keep applying and wait for a positive response. And yes, I have checked, my skills fall under shortage occupation list. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Bourne007(m): 8:32am On Jan 15, 2020 |
He even described himself as an animal in this BBC video lol ![]() ![]() https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51064219 Lexusgs430: |
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