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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by dalhjana: 8:20pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike:Yeah very true. Short term suffering and long term benefits. But how long is short term. It might just be like the SOON we're waiting for. 3 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 8:58pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: REORIENTATION. Nigerians need to change the way they view public office and officials. An average Nigerian is selfish and self centered, Nigerians has sacrificed their morality on the altar of corruption. We no longer teach moral but promote anyhowness as long as it brings “Money”. From top to bottom or bottom to top, we need a massive shift from the way we do things. Our leaders are not aliens, they are drawn from among us so they know how the average Nigerian thinks. While we want the government to be accountable to us, we must also be accountable to ourselves. Nigerians shout rule of law yet remain LAWLESS. Nigerians lament lack of infrastructural development yet destroy existing ones or sabotage the process of building a new one. Nigerians wants improved healthcare yet not ready to fund it by enrolling in NHS. In this Lagos alone, I can’t count the number of public properties that citizens have destroyed. Some months back there were reports that thieves were stealing the bolts on the Lagos - Ibadan railway that’s being constructed and they had to replace it again. Days ago, Fashola claimed some communities in Enugu were asking for 500M before they will allow them to continue working. There are stories that abound in the SS about “development levy” that you have to pay before carrying out development project. SARS that’s terrorizing Youths are not alien, they are Nigerians like you n me with relatives among us yet we hardly see their family members talk to them or anything, why should they when they bring in money? Those civil servants that makes corruption very easy are our fathers, mothers, aunts n uncles. They are the ones helping rogue politicians to shortchange the country. Go to any ministry, department or agency even local government councils and see how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters are destroying the country but we hardly talk about them because we benefit from them. Should we talk about how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters, uncle n aunt are destroying/frustrating the Education sector due to negligence and corruption? When a politician wins an election or is appointed into government, everyone in his community/area will most likely go to him with one problem or the other while neglecting the problem that affect US all. Instead of fixing those bad roads or upgrading those public schools or equipping our hospitals, we will share the money to solve some individual problems and pocket the rest. Nigerians have to reorient themselves to think more about our collective goals and development than individual aggrandizement. Oh did I mention Nigerians that travel to Ghana and follow their laws and come back to Nigeria to scream about how lawless n disorganized Nigeria is and yet still continue to break the law? LOL Nigeria is not our problem, Nigerians are. 45 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 8:59pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: How do you start a revolution “organically”? 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
larride: You too much... Gbayi bi LiVARpool |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by helpedboy: 9:06pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: Powerful statement, bro. Powerful. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by StephenEA(m): 9:20pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
dalhjana: Smiles... You made a point, and you're right, that I won't take from you. But, your last statement, I really don't understand why you said that. I made an opinion, which I stated at the end of my comment. Have we met before? What benefit would TRAFFIC, do for me? Or do you have problems with accommodating opinions? Maybe I'm not seeing it from your POV. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'd appreciate your response, I want to really understand you. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by shobroy10(m): 9:20pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
larride:This is the best piece I will read this year. Have always argued about this but more ppl believed the leaders gave birth to our problem. Then the question goes who spoiled all the previously existing companies we heard about. Our fathers who at on earth. Thanks bro u killed it 6 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nnpccourtcase: 9:29pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
This is Jarus, my Allah make it possible for us.
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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by dalhjana: 9:29pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
StephenEA:No. It wasn't for you. There's a guy who posted a link about the recruitment being canceled below the comment that I commented before . Check the comment to see the commentary . You'll understand. Lol |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by StephenEA(m): 9:33pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
dalhjana: Ehen! I read my comments over again, what did I say that brought about what you said? Ok then, now I get you. Cheers |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by dalhjana: 9:49pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
StephenEA:Yeah. Just that I don't smoke. I would have taken one jumbo in your name. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Jchibike(m): 9:51pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
I agree with you on all the problems you've mentioned--as I'm sure most honest Nigerians would. Do you mind telling me how you plan to carry out that reorientation? It's not enough to highlight all the issues that disturb us as a nation. What is your plan? I would like to know. Do you know why I think a revolution would work? If tomorrow you see a group of soldiers guarding a wooden table in the middle of the road, what would you think? It doesn't matter if there's a similar table just a stone's throw away on which a woman is selling pepper. So long as that one table is being guarded by soldiers, you'd be forced to deduce that there must be some great value to that one table. Value systems are not always symmetrical. If Nigerians decide today that this country, as seemingly hopeless and worthless as it is, is worth fighting for, no one in his right mind will stand in the way for too long. We, with our own hands, will reorient ourselves. larride: |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Jchibike(m): 9:54pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
By not starting it at all. It must happen of its own accord. When the state has reached its tipping point, as I said earlier. larride: 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Originakalokalo(m): 9:56pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Nnpccourtcase: Entry level in 2012 was 1.56 million per annum. Should I pull out the appointment letter for you? |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by CircleOfWilis: 9:58pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
I don tire for the long epistles.. May I receive APL soon, amen! 7 Likes
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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by StephenEA(m): 10:08pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: further more, reorientation is a very sssslllloooowwww process, was it today you heard "Charity begins at home". Meaning"Reorientation begins at home". Years I've been hearing this, but today, the family is no difference, even worse. Reorientation requires understanding, long suffering. But this is very impossible as a result of the great Wall of Ethnicity and Religion. Now look at Nigeria today, if you begin reorientation today, when do you think you'll achieve your goals. How, do you go about it like Jchibike said? Sowore was doing something diplomatic, he was silenced, that's not what I'm talking about. Such revolution will need a personality like sowore, (someone who is aimed at demolishing bad leadership), but not the activities of sowore. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Donrissy(m): 10:37pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Pls anyone with the 2012 recruitment link should help me with it. Just quote me and paste it. Thanks Sorry, I meant the link from naijahotjobs or so. That was the reigning site then. Someone pls help. Thanks tkbaba |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by T4kbaba(m): 10:49pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Donrissy: https://www.nairaland.com/1037972/nnpc-recruitment-2012-here |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Teaser4(m): 10:56pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
StephenEA:you're right bro...but the question be say who go start am lol...fela don talk am finish, we dey suffer dey smile...it is well. We go dey alright las las... |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 11:21pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: The solution is simple; revive the National Orientation Agency (NOA) and let them start delivering on their core mandate. NOA has the reach to get to the inner parts of the country, from Ikwo in Ebonyi to Orlu in Imo to Ajilete in Ogun to Ila orangun in Osun to Sabon gari in Kano to Daura in Katsina, they must begin to enlighten the citizens. Until citizens awareness (both in the urban n rural areas) are high, we will keep going in circles. A quote says “If someone can be taught to hate, they can also be taught to love”. With the advent of social media, it’s easy to disseminate information and spread awareness. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 11:23pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Jchibike: Revolution cannot start on its own. There will always be a catalyst. 90% of revolution ends up being hijacked by other forces. It’s an unstable terrain. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 11:35pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
StephenEA: LOL. Every democratic process is slow because it will always involve a lot of bureaucracy. Reorientation can start from anywhere. From your home, by telling your fathers n mothers, brothers n sisters to do the right thing. By telling your colleague to not cheat the system. By obeying all laws including traffic, waste management, pedestrians crossing and the likes and of course by paying your TAX. Like Buhari once said, change begins with You and Me. Once we are able to change from our lawless ways and be acccoutable to ourselves, we then become major champion of accountability from the government. We can start by preaching love n unity in all parts of the country but first you have to show that love n unity to those around you, those Yorubas you loathe or those Igbos you don’t want to see or those “illiterate” Hausas you dislike with passion and all other ethnic group. No one is more Nigerian than the other. Shun tribalism or religion intolerance. To effect wholesome changes in the political space, Nigerians must band together and that’s why Reorientation is important. Cheers. N.B: I don’t subscribe to any of Sowore shenanigans, he contested for President, lost n called for revolution. In any other country, he will be languishing in some forgotten jail. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Powersurge: 11:42pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
Anybody that thinks "a people" will suddenly turn 360 degrees and change without a well charted course from "above" MUST be joking. Human nature resists order. But when you know what will happen if you do certain things and you have seen high and mighty languishing in jail for "minor" things, your brain will reset. Social change is a conscious and direct approach brought upon the people by a leader. For everyone that choose to do the right thing, a million others will do otherwise. And if by chance your "rightness" collides with the "wrongness" of a million people, you will be QUICKLY thrown under the bus. How do you subdue people? Make them poor and/or make them illiterate. If you see crime as a sole human choice, then your view is very erroneous. It has been proven that crime has antecedents. For every 1000 police officers collecting salary of 40k, seeing their bosses living above their means, seeing senior colleagues dying to collect their pensions, whose children are sent back from school, whose shoes have holes, who cannot change cloths, who protect politicians stealing billions etc. AT LEAST 800 of them will cut corners. If we have option to pay our first one year salary to someone to get this NNPC job, 80% of people here (including me) will take that option. Crime or illegality does not exist as a loner. For every public infrastructure destroyed at least 5 indices are directing towards failed government (failure to enforce law, failure to protect lives and property, fail to prosecute prospective culprits, failure to educate, failure to empower, the list is endless). The first sign of anarchy arises when system becomes selective in what to prosecute. When justice becomes a matter of tribe, class, religion etc. You think someone removing rail steel is a criminal? Have you thought of someone who refused to build school to educate him? Someone who refused to build hospital that led to his father's death? Someone who got billions from kickbacks of that project whose children will never "condescend" to the level of ever using such abysmal rail system (they rather fly over it)? Someone who stole money meant for industry, power etc which would have create employment for the "thief"? Tell me a leader in Nigeria, including Buhari who doesn't have more money than he truly worth in his account. And I will show you a man or woman who is not only a criminal but a liar. Nigerians are the best people anybody can lead. Every baffoon government will come and lie to them and they will buy it. Do you think Niger Deltans (referring to millitants) suddenly became "criminals"? Crime has antecedents. 7 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 11:47pm On Jan 14, 2020 |
^^^^ Boss man, I’m not sure you understand the premise of my post on REORIENTATION. If you want further deliberations on the subject matter, I’m open to it. |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Marty99999: 12:59am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Guys Im sure there is Nigerian theoretical philosophy thread on Nairaland where you can share your lonng essays. Please allow us to hear word now ![]() 14 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 1:20am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Revolution and Reorientation all have the same root problem in common which is motivation, i implementation and structure. This will require people but the people are not different from those amplifying the problems in Nigeria so what's the point? However you may try to see it, the current democratic structure being furnished and maintained by the integrity of the constitution of the FRN can never and would never solve the current problem in Nigeria. It is designed to accomodate the collective input of everyone. Sadly, "everyone" is corrupt. How could an association of corrupt leaders and followers provide a system of governance void of selfishness to the country? What we need is an unprecedented rise of a ruthless but well meaning autocrat who will damn the bureaucracy of the current democratic dispostion and establish a totally new system of laws and code of governance. This new system even though democratic should not compromise on issuing capital and brutal penalties on corrupt officials until sanity and reorientation is enforced down to the grassroot level. Truth is there is a kind of people that will NEVER learn or do what is correct except with a rod on their backs. Alot of Nigerians are like that. Worse is that the rich ones buy their way out of the very limited punishment provided by the laws of the land for their unpatriotic actions. No great country has developed without a brave person or a messiah damning the status quo in force to establish equity in the government of the land. We need a messiah. That's all. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Jchibike(m): 3:12am On Jan 15, 2020 |
How idealistic! You want to change the course of Nigerian history forever using the NOA and social media. The former is an institution run by people who themselves most likely need orientation. People without their skin in the game trying to spur an equally docile people towards change. No wonder it worked so well in the past! Social media? I won't even go into that. larride: 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Jchibike(m): 3:39am On Jan 15, 2020 |
There are two kinds of people that have always been able to effect change: the saints and the mad men. The former have nothing to gain in their lifetime, only in posterity through legacy. The latter, as per the bolded, gain in their lifetime by acquiring power but may suffer in posterity. How do you expect a ruthless autocrat to come into power? By being democratically elected? You've mentioned that our current system does not permit the emergence of the kind of radical change we need. Is it safe for me to assume that you may be suggesting a total overhaul? How do you hope to do this? By holding a national convention for everyone to decide? SolidLight: |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Jchibike(m): 3:43am On Jan 15, 2020 |
My point is that it cannot be forced. You cannot gather people and ask them to revolt, like Sowore tried to do. Everyone must come to a point where they see for themselves that no other option is available than a revolution. larride: |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 5:50am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Jchibike: How do you expect a ruthless autocrat to come into power? 1. A democratically elected person with a formidable support base to fight opposition. 2. Military coup: JJ Rawlings of Ghana comes to mind. A risky option but one that will guarantee tremendous improvement if a sound General or Officer is point man. 3. Recolonization: in this case, the use of the word "ruthless" might be an overreach. I consider this the best option for Nigeria but chances are very low considering how the world has evolved. South Africa is a mirage of what Nigeria would have looked like should the brits have stayed a while longer. By being democratically elected? You've mentioned that our current system does not permit the emergence of the kind of radical change we need. Is it safe for me to assume that you may be suggesting a total overhaul? How do you hope to do this? By holding a national convention for everyone to decide? 3 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 8:23am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Jchibike: My use of social media is for awareness purposes. Lots of fake news and different kinds of stories and news are being shared daily on Social Media which in one way or the other impact in the way people think and behave. NOA can use SM as a tool of counter measuring those narratives. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by larride(m): 8:24am On Jan 15, 2020 |
SolidLight: 1. Then you begin to hear cries of witch hunt, attack on democracy and the likes. LOL 2. Been there, done that. 3. Never going to happen. |
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