Jchibike:
1. Libya's so called revolution did not happen organically.

2. The outcomes of events like a revolution are largely asymmetrical and cannot be predicted in the short term. This is the problem. No spirit of sacrifice. Look through history at the nations whose founding fathers fought off oppressive colonials to establish. They suffered short term losses for the future gains of their offspring.

3. Note that I'm not trying to convince anyone to start or join a revolution. Like I said earlier, it must happen organically.

Jchibike:
What do you mean by reorientation?

Jchibike:
1. Libya's so called revolution did not happen organically.

2. The outcomes of events like a revolution are largely asymmetrical and cannot be predicted in the short term. This is the problem. No spirit of sacrifice. Look through history at the nations whose founding fathers fought off oppressive colonials to establish. They suffered short term losses for the future gains of their offspring.

3. Note that I'm not trying to convince anyone to start or join a revolution. Like I said earlier, it must happen organically.

larride:


REORIENTATION.

Nigerians need to change the way they view public office and officials.

An average Nigerian is selfish and self centered, Nigerians has sacrificed their morality on the altar of corruption. We no longer teach moral but promote anyhowness as long as it brings “Money”.

From top to bottom or bottom to top, we need a massive shift from the way we do things. Our leaders are not aliens, they are drawn from among us so they know how the average Nigerian thinks. While we want the government to be accountable to us, we must also be accountable to ourselves.

Nigerians shout rule of law yet remain LAWLESS. Nigerians lament lack of infrastructural development yet destroy existing ones or sabotage the process of building a new one. Nigerians wants improved healthcare yet not ready to fund it by enrolling in NHS.

In this Lagos alone, I can’t count the number of public properties that citizens have destroyed. Some months back there were reports that thieves were stealing the bolts on the Lagos - Ibadan railway that’s being constructed and they had to replace it again. Days ago, Fashola claimed some communities in Enugu were asking for 500M before they will allow them to continue working. There are stories that abound in the SS about “development levy” that you have to pay before carrying out development project.

SARS that’s terrorizing Youths are not alien, they are Nigerians like you n me with relatives among us yet we hardly see their family members talk to them or anything, why should they when they bring in money?

Those civil servants that makes corruption very easy are our fathers, mothers, aunts n uncles. They are the ones helping rogue politicians to shortchange the country. Go to any ministry, department or agency even local government councils and see how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters are destroying the country but we hardly talk about them because we benefit from them.

Should we talk about how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters, uncle n aunt are destroying/frustrating the Education sector due to negligence and corruption?

When a politician wins an election or appoint into government, everyone in his community/area will most likely go to him with one problem or the other while neglecting the problem that affect US all. Instead of fixing those bad roads or upgrading those public schools or equipping our hospitals, we will share the money to solve some individual problems and pocket the rest.

Nigerians have to reorient themselves to think more about our collective goals and development than individual aggrandizement.

Oh did I mention Nigerians that travel to Ghana and follow their laws and come back to Nigeria to scream about how lawless n disorganized Nigeria is and yet still continue to break the law? LOL

Nigeria is not our problem, Nigerians are.

Jchibike:
There is no country more in need of a revolution than Nigeria. And yet there is no group of people more incapable of bringing about it than Nigerians. However, revolutions can hardly be sustained if they do not happen organically. We must get to the point where there is no available option than revolt. This is partly why Sowore failed. Our collective inertia is too strong to be overcome by mere social media rhetoric. What is needed is a strong message. But until that happens, we must naturally arrive at our own tipping point. I'm afraid that will be a long time.

dalhjana:

REVOLUTION is like an overthrow of government. More like a coup. Where you have militias fighting the military to take power. Is that what you want? I think that's why Sowore was detained although might not be what he intended. Just chill because i still remember vividly an engineer at the tower said it took close to two years for theirs to be out. But
Last Last you saying you can't live in another man's land.. That a big fat lie. If unfortunately say nnpc no show us love.. I too sure say you go later be Land grabber.

Nobody should click the link below.. He is looking for traffic for his site. Ntooor.

larride:


REORIENTATION.

Nigerians need to change the way they view public office and officials.

An average Nigerian is selfish and self centered, Nigerians has sacrificed their morality on the altar of corruption. We no longer teach moral but promote anyhowness as long as it brings “Money”.

From top to bottom or bottom to top, we need a massive shift from the way we do things. Our leaders are not aliens, they are drawn from among us so they know how the average Nigerian thinks. While we want the government to be accountable to us, we must also be accountable to ourselves.

Nigerians shout rule of law yet remain LAWLESS. Nigerians lament lack of infrastructural development yet destroy existing ones or sabotage the process of building a new one. Nigerians wants improved healthcare yet not ready to fund it by enrolling in NHS.

In this Lagos alone, I can’t count the number of public properties that citizens have destroyed. Some months back there were reports that thieves were stealing the bolts on the Lagos - Ibadan railway that’s being constructed and they had to replace it again. Days ago, Fashola claimed some communities in Enugu were asking for 500M before they will allow them to continue working. There are stories that abound in the SS about “development levy” that you have to pay before carrying out development project.

SARS that’s terrorizing Youths are not alien, they are Nigerians like you n me with relatives among us yet we hardly see their family members talk to them or anything, why should they when they bring in money?

Those civil servants that makes corruption very easy are our fathers, mothers, aunts n uncles. They are the ones helping rogue politicians to shortchange the country. Go to any ministry, department or agency even local government councils and see how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters are destroying the country but we hardly talk about them because we benefit from them.

Should we talk about how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters, uncle n aunt are destroying/frustrating the Education sector due to negligence and corruption?

When a politician wins an election or is appointed into government, everyone in his community/area will most likely go to him with one problem or the other while neglecting the problem that affect US all. Instead of fixing those bad roads or upgrading those public schools or equipping our hospitals, we will share the money to solve some individual problems and pocket the rest.

Nigerians have to reorient themselves to think more about our collective goals and development than individual aggrandizement.

Oh did I mention Nigerians that travel to Ghana and follow their laws and come back to Nigeria to scream about how lawless n disorganized Nigeria is and yet still continue to break the law? LOL

Nigeria is not our problem, Nigerians are.

StephenEA:


Smiles...
You made a point, and you're right, that I won't take from you.

But, your last statement, I really don't understand why you said that. I made an opinion, which I stated at the end of my comment. Have we met before? What benefit would TRAFFIC, do for me? Or do you have problems with accommodating opinions?

Maybe I'm not seeing it from your POV. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'd appreciate your response, I want to really understand you.

dalhjana:
No. It wasn't for you. There's a guy who posted a link about the recruitment being canceled below the comment that I commented before . Check the comment to see the commentary . You'll understand. Lol

StephenEA:

Ehen!
I read my comments over again, what did I say that brought about what you said?
Ok then, now I get you. Cheers

larride:


REORIENTATION.

Nigerians need to change the way they view public office and officials.

An average Nigerian is selfish and self centered, Nigerians has sacrificed their morality on the altar of corruption. We no longer teach moral but promote anyhowness as long as it brings “Money”.

From top to bottom or bottom to top, we need a massive shift from the way we do things. Our leaders are not aliens, they are drawn from among us so they know how the average Nigerian thinks. While we want the government to be accountable to us, we must also be accountable to ourselves.

Nigerians shout rule of law yet remain LAWLESS. Nigerians lament lack of infrastructural development yet destroy existing ones or sabotage the process of building a new one. Nigerians wants improved healthcare yet not ready to fund it by enrolling in NHS.

In this Lagos alone, I can’t count the number of public properties that citizens have destroyed. Some months back there were reports that thieves were stealing the bolts on the Lagos - Ibadan railway that’s being constructed and they had to replace it again. Days ago, Fashola claimed some communities in Enugu were asking for 500M before they will allow them to continue working. There are stories that abound in the SS about “development levy” that you have to pay before carrying out development project.

SARS that’s terrorizing Youths are not alien, they are Nigerians like you n me with relatives among us yet we hardly see their family members talk to them or anything, why should they when they bring in money?

Those civil servants that makes corruption very easy are our fathers, mothers, aunts n uncles. They are the ones helping rogue politicians to shortchange the country. Go to any ministry, department or agency even local government councils and see how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters are destroying the country but we hardly talk about them because we benefit from them.

Should we talk about how our mothers n fathers, brothers n sisters, uncle n aunt are destroying/frustrating the Education sector due to negligence and corruption?

When a politician wins an election or is appointed into government, everyone in his community/area will most likely go to him with one problem or the other while neglecting the problem that affect US all. Instead of fixing those bad roads or upgrading those public schools or equipping our hospitals, we will share the money to solve some individual problems and pocket the rest.

Nigerians have to reorient themselves to think more about our collective goals and development than individual aggrandizement.

Oh did I mention Nigerians that travel to Ghana and follow their laws and come back to Nigeria to scream about how lawless n disorganized Nigeria is and yet still continue to break the law? LOL

Nigeria is not our problem, Nigerians are.

larride:


How do you start a revolution “organically”?

Nnpccourtcase:
This is Jarus, my Allah make it possible for us.

Jchibike:
I agree with you on all the problems you've mentioned--as I'm sure most honest Nigerians would. Do you mind telling me how you plan to carry out that reorientation? It's not enough to highlight all the issues that disturb us as a nation. What is your plan? I would like to know.

Do you know why I think a revolution would work? If tomorrow you see a group of soldiers guarding a wooden table in the middle of the road, what would you think? It doesn't matter if there's a similar table just a stone's throw away on which a woman is selling pepper. So long as that one table is being guarded by soldiers, you'd be forced to deduce that there must be some great value to that one table.

Value systems are not always symmetrical. If Nigerians decide today that this country, as seemingly hopeless and worthless as it is, is worth fighting for, no one in his right mind will stand in the way for too long. We, with our own hands, will reorient ourselves.

Donrissy:
Pls anyone with the 2012 recruitment link should help me with it. Just quote me and paste it. Thanks

StephenEA:


Can't agree more, Nigeria is irredeemable. Worst of it all, you say what? Politics? wrong idea. What Nigeria needs right now is REVOLUTION!

Whether you join politics, Nigeria is a region comprising of three nations. You can't make any decision without a common ground. I have long given up.

Well, I can't live in another man's land, I can't permanently move to another country, Nigeria has gotten a bad tag, go to any airport around the world, and mention you're a Nigerian, you will be given a special attention. It's only a matter of time that other nations will follow after South Africa. So it's Nigeria or no other. I have long readjusted my mind.

REVOLUTION! That's my answer, my opinion anyway...

Jchibike:
I agree with you on all the problems you've mentioned--as I'm sure most honest Nigerians would. Do you mind telling me how you plan to carry out that reorientation? It's not enough to highlight all the issues that disturb us as a nation. What is your plan? I would like to know.

Do you know why I think a revolution would work? If tomorrow you see a group of soldiers guarding a wooden table in the middle of the road, what would you think? It doesn't matter if there's a similar table just a stone's throw away on which a woman is selling pepper. So long as that one table is being guarded by soldiers, you'd be forced to deduce that there must be some great value to that one table.

Value systems are not always symmetrical. If Nigerians decide today that this country, as seemingly hopeless and worthless as it is, is worth fighting for, no one in his right mind will stand in the way for too long. We, with our own hands, will reorient ourselves.

Jchibike:
By not starting it at all. It must happen of its own accord. When the state has reached its tipping point, as I said earlier.

StephenEA:


further more, reorientation is a very sssslllloooowwww process, was it today you heard "Charity begins at home". Meaning"Reorientation begins at home". Years I've been hearing this, but today, the family is no difference, even worse.

Reorientation requires understanding, long suffering. But this is very impossible as a result of the great Wall of Ethnicity and Religion. Now look at Nigeria today, if you begin reorientation today, when do you think you'll achieve your goals. How, do you go about it like Jchibike said?

Sowore was doing something diplomatic, he was silenced, that's not what I'm talking about. Such revolution will need a personality like sowore, (someone who is aimed at demolishing bad leadership), but not the activities of sowore.

larride:


The solution is simple; revive the National Orientation Agency (NOA) and let them start delivering on their core mandate.

NOA has the reach to get to the inner parts of the country, from Ikwo in Ebonyi to Orlu in Imo to Ajilete in Ogun to Ila orangun in Osun to Sabon gari in Kano to Daura in Katsina, they must begin to enlighten the citizens.

Until citizens awareness (both in the urban n rural areas) are high, we will keep going in circles.

A quote says “If someone can be taught to hate, they can also be taught to love”.

With the advent of social media, it’s easy to disseminate information and spread awareness.

SolidLight:
Revolution and Reorientation all have the same root problem in common which is motivation, i implementation and structure. This will require people but the people are not different from those amplifying the problems in Nigeria so what's the point?

However you may try to see it, the current democratic structure being furnished and maintained by the integrity of the constitution of the FRN can never and would never solve the current problem in Nigeria. It is designed to accomodate the collective input of everyone. Sadly, "everyone" is corrupt. How could an association of corrupt leaders and followers provide a system of governance void of selfishness to the country?

[b]What we need is an unprecedented rise of a ruthless but well meaning autocrat who will damn the bureaucracy of the current democratic dispostion and establish a totally new system of laws and code of governance. [/b]This new system even though democratic should not compromise on issuing capital and brutal penalties on corrupt officials until sanity and reorientation is enforced up to the grassroot level. Truth is there is a kind of people that will NEVER learn or do what is correct except with a rod on their backs. Alot of Nigerians are like that. Worse is that the rich ones buy their way out of the very limited punishment provided by the laws of the land for their unpatriotic actions.

No great country has developed without a brave person or a messiah damning the status quo in force to establish equity in the government of the land. We need a messiah. That's all.

larride:


Revolution cannot start on its own. There will always be a catalyst.

90% of revolution ends up being hijacked by other forces. It’s an unstable terrain.

Jchibike:
There are two kinds of people that have always been able to effect change: the saints and the mad men. The former have nothing to gain in their lifetime, only in posterity through legacy. The latter, as per the bolded, gain in their lifetime by acquiring power but may suffer in posterity.

How do you expect a ruthless autocrat to come into power?

By being democratically elected? You've mentioned that our current system does not permit the emergence of the kind of radical change we need. Is it safe for me to assume that you may be suggesting a total overhaul? How do you hope to do this? By holding a national convention for everyone to decide?

Jchibike:
How idealistic! You want to change the course of Nigerian history forever using the NOA and social media. The former is an institution run by people who themselves most likely need orientation. People without their skin in the game trying to spur an equally docile people towards change. No wonder it worked so well in the past!

Social media? I won't even go into that.

SolidLight:



1. A democratically elected person with a formidable support base to fight opposition.
2. Military coup: JJ Rawlings of Ghana comes to mind. A risky option but one that will guarantee tremendous improvement if a sound General or Officer is point man.
3. Recolonization: in this case, the use of the word "ruthless" might be an overreach. I consider this the best option for Nigeria but chances are very low considering how the world has evolved. South Africa is a mirage of what Nigeria would have looked like should the brits have stayed a while longer.