DandeNumeruno:


baba it is not.

they mixed fiction with fact but more fiction. it got the hollywood treatment - america good, everyone else bad.

abduleez1:


Lol, most of those Based on a True Life Story shit they paste on movies are full of fiction and alternative facts/ writing.

The most those movies can get in actual facts is not up to 50%.

From American Sniper, Captain Phillips to Conjuring to Platoon to Black Hawk Down and all the most they've got in facts is a poor over 40%.

It just has a tinge of suspense, excitement and enjoyment laced to it just cause of the True Life Story shtick.

mekaprime:


SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
I said 90% , that's kinda an exaggeration though, the fact is that no war movie depicts up to 70% accuracy. All are facts and fiction mixed together almost at par.
If I may ask, how do you know which is fact & which is fiction. Based on what i read on Wikipedia, i strongly disagree that that the movie was more fiction than fact, & I'll rather say they were equals.
Facts that concurred with the movie.
-Firstly, Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 was what precipitated the entrance of the United States into World War II, before then the US was neutral.
-After two hours of bombing, 18 U.S. ships were sunk or damaged, 188 U.S. aircraft were destroyed, and 2,403 people were killed... simply put, the totality of what happened at Perl Harbor was 90% perfectly depicted.
-The code breakers were key to the attack
-From the horses mouth, Retired U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Samuel J. Cox, director of the Naval History and Heritage Command and the Navy's liaison for the film, says the movie is more accurate than 1976's "Midway" starring Charlton Heston and Henry Fonda. Cox ultimately gave the current telling a strong thumbs up......etc

America is good, everyone else is bad. Yes for this movie I'll rather cling to that philosophy, so long as the Japs are unwilling to give their own version of the story.

alexistaiwo:
Your grammar and your incoherent use of technical words are the reason i know you do not know what you are talking about.

You wrote a technically wrong grammatically correct post.


Just yesterday, i had to research the WW1 (not even WW2) for like the hundredth time simply because I was mediating on it and muddled up the military alliance sequences that blew everything out of proportion.


I am also a weapons and military enthusiastic, when I see someone who is writing about what he knows, I know!


Leave matter for matthias and don't let us derail.
Ciao!

abduleez1:


Yea yea, I know what a "Carrier Battle Group" is, that's why i said it will be tough. But recent advanced hypersonic missiles are far advanced and possess capabilities we thought were alien to it. Latest advanced missiles from Russia and China can tell the difference from a Large Destroyer, Frigate from an Aircraft Carrier and Corvette/ OPV. It's their hypersonic speeds which makes it difficult for ships Air defences to take them out, possessing speeds of Mach 6 and above.

The Russian versions are Super fast— the fastest and very agile, manuevreable and flexible it can Dodge interception missiles itself. That's why they use low-high-low operability— in the sense that they travel very low (sea level) to avoid detection of Air defense Radars. Follow and use terrain as a low detection maneuvre.

And who says you need to send just one or two missiles. Just send them in barrages(mostly for the Chinese). A dozen or two should be able to do the damage— I bet the Russian missiles will do that with less missiles involved(Russian Brahmos missiles can even work in pairs and designate which platforms or assets to attack first! If the Destroyers and Frigates are taken out, the carrier is a sitting duck). Their missile systems far outclasses the US anywhere in the world.

The fear of the Yakhont or Brahmos missile is the beginning of Naval Wisdom.

abduleez1:


What is this one even saying. Incoherent use if what technical words.

"Technically wrong grammatical correct post" — LMAO

What WW I/ II alliance you mixed up?

Oga you know Jack sh!t about military weapons or systems. And how do you define or know when someone knows what they claim to know.

You claim to be an "expert" . What is your counter point to the one I offered. If you even understand military tactics you would have offered your own views to neutralize mine. Instead you just scream I used Wikipedia.

I can debate you any day anytime in terms of military systems. I no see any shite you know.

If you don't know about military relations, shut up and learn from the peeps who knows, instead of pretending to belong. "AFRICAN EXPERT"

mekaprime:

So with all these knowledge you've just displayed here, you expect those carriers not to be equipped with counter measures, it seems like you have no idea how much a Carrier cost or its destructive nature should it get hit. Bro we are looking at a nuclear armageddon on the sea, the wave length of the blast would probably affect other carriers, we are looking at a full scale ripple effect here . Or do you really think the US would display the full capabilities of their precious carries online for all Dick & Tom to read so as to pin point a weakness, mbanu.

alexistaiwo:
In this digital age, there are some discussions best left for offline because anyone can easily use Google to claim knowledgeable while debating online.



African experts got me laughing loud.
I hope you know where that phrase originated from? (Google can't help you here)

abduleez1:


Okay. It goes both ways.

Run along scaredy cat.

You know NOTHING. Na just to make noise and pass off enlightenment.

You claim expertise, why can't you debunk my supposedly "erroneous claim" with a superior one coming from an expert. So much for your WISDOM.


Baba dey claim level wey him no Sabi dey think say I be learner. Next time look before you leap.

abduleez1:


From the Trailers I've seen I'm definitely going to enjoy this one. Thunder fire critics say. They can go to hell.

I love flicks about WW II air battles most especially if it's laced with some level of actual events.

It's the land based WW I/II movies with Tanks and infantry soldiers I hate or dislike cos they mostly boring to me— especially if there's no Tank Battles, that's a let down.

alexistaiwo:
You claim to belong to many woke groups on the internet and seeing that you already have a Wikipedia tab about military equipments opened on your phone over there, it is pointless debating military stuff with you.


I asked you where the African Expert tag you so graciously used to described me was coined on the internet.


Google cant help you like i said earlier so either you answer my question or close the chapter.

DandeNumeruno:


bros this your review get k leg o.

the only commendable thing about that film were cinematography and action vfx, nothing more.

the script was fallacious. it made US navy looked impenetrable when in actual history japanese navy came very close to invading california.

nuking japan was necessary because at that time, the dreaded japanese kamikaze had sunk US warships, and damaged more. the US navy was hemorrhaging and it was either nuke japan or lose the pacific.

realestniggah:


I've just seen 1917, and it was a masterpiece of filmmaking. Hatoff to Hollywood on that one.

I'm gonna watch midway now, seeing as they are the same Genre, Fingers crossed. It better be good. The critics are not always right.

realestniggah:


I've just seen 1917, and it was a masterpiece of filmmaking. Hatoff to Hollywood on that one.

I'm gonna watch midway now, seeing as they are the same Genre, Fingers crossed. It better be good. The critics are not always right.

abduleez1:


Lol, see this unenlightened OLD MAN.

Too bad you're a wimp militarily you think everybody stating military terms you don't understand are copying and pasting right from wiki.

And who'll hold a military discussion with you— me? Hell no. You that can't even comprehend basic military tactics or make a single point on military systems/tactics for over 3 hours. Still claiming military enthusiast, enthusiast my foot. You no nothing.

What is my concern with the Origins of African Expert. What I understand about is based on how I see it use online by Whites/foreigners who use it as a derogatory comment to mock commenters from African countries on FB pages/groups especially amongst football fans. Etc Ronaldo vs Messi fans.

And what's the correlation between origin of AFRICAN EXPERT and our military arguments?

Stop your escapism, and beating around the bush. You know SH!T.

PaddyX:


please which movies can you recommend that portray the world wars very well?

alexistaiwo:
If I ask you to explain the term battle of attrition now?


You will start using Google up and down.

African expert was actually coined when Mahrez joined Manchester City and North Africans were over hyping him before the term came to be used for all Africans in general.

Now that you have vex me..

Can you explain what can make a military duel be rated as a tactical victory whilst simultaneously being rated as a strategic loss.



Oya go and Google.

abduleez1:


Lol baba you dey vex.

And how is my African Expert understanding different from what you just said.

So I'll be the one waiting for you up and down for your comment just to reply. Cos I have no job or anything else to do. So the time gap between my reply na Wikipedia. I marvel at your mentality at times.

So na Battle of Attrition i no understand?

abduleez1:
The same empty barrels making noise since that can't make a counter point to my argument since. Now they form Bruce Lee after BABA don go do research and Analysis for GOOGLE.

What took you so long to state your mettle?


Awon AFRICAN EXPERT!!

alexistaiwo:
I initially think you weren't worth the stress because those who know me offline know that I will rather keep quiet than have an unproductive argument.


I don't argue to brag, I argue to learn.

alexistaiwo:
After doing online research abi?

Oya answer the two questions.

There is more where those came from

abduleez1:


Same as me.

That was my point until you continued to accuse me of pulling up copied Wikipedia pages, instead of debunking my statements with your expertise knowledge.

I was awaiting your reply so as to learn a thing or two that had escaped my mind from your points, but Alas you didn't show up. Instead you continued your taunting, instead of showing me the errors in my ways.

Peace Out.

abduleez1:


Until you first present at least 2 counterpoints(answer) to my "fallacious" statements, you answers are null and void.

Where did those come from? Evading I guess.
From solid answers debunking my claims to rigmarole into ORIGINS OF AFRICAN EXPERT. I got your African Expert tango you got frustrated and started spewing grammar.
What wouldn't make you to continue your evasive tactics if I give you your answers. You'll still cry WIKIPEDIA.

Park well, I no get your time this night.

alexistaiwo:
You wrote this.....


Then turned around to type this.

Abeg swerve, I don't have time for bipolar tendencies tonight.


I have bigger fish like Standard Liege to fry.

abduleez1:


Lol that was what I first saw. And poor Network this night didn't post my second reply. So i had to repost after I noticed it wasn't sent the first.

That's what made it seem so.

Baba slow down on the betting Sha oo. I hear say tickets just dey cut anyhow this year.

Make I come collect betting tips tomorrow morning??