AntiChristian:


Please keep shut if you have nothing more to say! Daniel face Jerusalem, was his Lord in Jerusalem? Some questions from you are so repetitive and silly!

Facing the Qibla is a requirement of the Prayer. The Prophet faced Jerusalem (Masjid Al-Aqsa) before he was commanded to face the Qibla! And Jerusalem, Masjid An-Nabawi and Al Haram are the three main Muslim Masaajid.

Allah says:
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allah, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masakin (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and gives the Zakat, and who fulfill their covenant when they make it, and who are As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.) in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of fighting (during the battles). Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqun (pious - see V. 2:2). Al Baqarah vs 177.

Jesus is the author and finisher of my faith, not Daniel. Jesus is my role model, Jesus prayed and prostrated to God, Jesus went to the mountain to pray, Jesus prayed alone, that's the example we follow we can pray anywhere to our God and we are not limited to any direction or place.

God didn't command anyone to pray to him facing any direction, the reason Daniel did is best known to him.

And it was because Muhammad didnt have the mind of his own that was why he copied Daniel by praying towards Jerusalem before he fabricated another revelation that he should start facing the Kaaba, the home of Allah and all the 360 idols of Mecca

My God is the king of the universe, he's omnipresent. It's your Allah that's confined to the four corners of the Kaaba and represented by the fallen meteorite, the Blackstone.

advocatejare:
your god is limited to one direction, if you don't face that direction he cant answer your prayers, my God is everywhere, he's omnipresent, he's not limited by direction or anything i don't need to face any direction to pray to him, my God is not a fallen meteorite, a black stone that you all go to Mecca to kiss. My God is Yahweh. I don't worship 3 gods. My God is One, He Has Jesus Christ as the only begotten Son

Your god is Allah the idol of the Quarysh, the Blackstone of the Kaaba

You have really bitten off more than you could chew here. All your doubts have nevertheless been cleared up. It's now up to you if you want to remain rooted in ignorance.

Thank you, AntiChristian.

advocatejare:

Jesus is the author and finisher of my faith, not Daniel. Jesus is my role model, Jesus prayed and prostrated to God, Jesus went to the mountain to pray, Jesus prayed alone, that's the example we follow we can pray anywhere to our God and we are not limited to any direction or place.

God didn't command anyone to pray to him facing any direction, the reason Daniel did is best known to him.

My God is the king of the universe, he's omnipresent. It's your Allah that's confined to the four corners of the Kaaba and represented by the fallen meteorite, the Blackstone.

But you sabi quote Ezekiel to tackle us here! You never serious! Why can't you fast for 40 days without food like Jesus?Bring the verse for singing, dancing, clapping, screaming, etc that you guys do today?

Sometimes i wonder if you are a just plain ignorant of your Book or just extremely stupid!
What does this verse below mean?
When your people go to war against their enemies, wherever you send them, and when they pray to the LORD toward the city you have chosen and the temple I have built for your Name. 1 Kings 8:44

aadoiza:

You have really bitten off more than you could chew here. All your doubts have nevertheless been cleared up. It's now up to you if you want to remain rooted in ignorance.

Thank you, AntiChristian.

Antichristian that is getting his ass whipped.

You can join him too.

I'm enjoying the way I'm exposing the idolatry that you call religion.

None of you have been able to refute the claim that you leave Nigeria to go and kiss a fallen angel meteorite Blackstone in Mecca

advocatejare:

Antichristian that is getting his ass whipped.

You can join him too.

I'm enjoying the way I'm exposing the idolatry that you call religion.

None of you have been able to refute the claim that you leave Nigeria to go and kiss a fallen angel meteorite Blackstone in Mecca

Dear Ignoramus,

It was narrated that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) came to the Black Stone and kissed it, then he said: “I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1520; Muslim, 1720)

aadoiza:

You have really bitten off more than you could chew here. All your doubts have nevertheless been cleared up. It's now up to you if you want to remain rooted in ignorance.

Thank you, AntiChristian.

He will still bring this argument in the future! Na so them dey do.

AntiChristian:



Dear Ignoramus,

It was narrated that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) came to the Black Stone and kissed it, then he said: “I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1520; Muslim, 1720)

So your prophet was busy kissing stones and you also copied him and continue till date, you travel to Mecca to kiss stone

AntiChristian:



Dear Ignoramus,

It was narrated that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) came to the Black Stone and kissed it, then he said: “I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1520; Muslim, 1720)

Muhammad himself was a pagan, an idol worshipper, he was always part of the idolatry practice of the Quarysh, he fasted like them on Mondays, he circumbulated round the Kaaba like they did, he used to go into seclusion like they did, it was during one of those seclusions in the cave of Hira that he got possessed by a jinn.

Muhammad worshipped stones like they did and he retained worshipping of the Blackstone.

It's documented in the Hadiths that Arabs had always been stone worshippers.

Narrated By Abu Raja Al-Utaridi
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. ...
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:661

AntiChristian:


But you sabi quote Ezekiel to tackle us here! You never serious! Why can't you fast for 40 days without food like Jesus?Bring the verse for singing, dancing, clapping, screaming, etc that you guys do today?

Sometimes i wonder if you are a just plain ignorant of your Book or just extremely stupid!
What does this verse below mean?
When your people go to war against their enemies, wherever you send them, and when they pray to the LORD toward the city you have chosen and the temple I have built for your Name. 1 Kings 8:44

Jesus never commanded us to fast for 40days, Jesus didn't create a cult, he brought salvation, the things he require from us is to live a life of holiness.

We are not foolish people that will be kissing stones or drink camel urine because a demon possessed man asked us to.

AntiChristian:



Dear Ignoramus,

It was narrated that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) came to the Black Stone and kissed it, then he said: “I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1520; Muslim, 1720)

And since you must copy all the foolish things he did, why dont you also pour semen on your clothes like Muhammad did?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).

AntiChristian:


But you sabi quote Ezekiel to tackle us here! You never serious! Why can't you fast for 40 days without food like Jesus?Bring the verse for singing, dancing, clapping, screaming, etc that you guys do today?

Sometimes i wonder if you are a just plain ignorant of your Book or just extremely stupid!
What does this verse below mean?
When your people go to war against their enemies, wherever you send them, and when they pray to the LORD toward the city you have chosen and the temple I have built for your Name. 1 Kings 8:44

Your case is irredeemable. You just go in between a chapter and copy without reading from above, do you think that the Bible is haphazardly arranged and meaningless like the Quran?

If you read from the verse 12 of the 1 Kings you quoted above, you will realize that Solomon was only praying to God. It wasn't God that instructed anyone to pray towards the Temple.
You're just as ignorant like Muhammad.

1king 8:12
Then Solomon prayed, “O Lord, you have said that you would live in a thick cloud of darkness.

1king 8:44-45
“If your people go out where you send them to fight their enemies, and if they pray to the Lord by turning toward this city you have chosen and toward this Temple I have built to honor your name,

then hear their prayers from heaven and uphold their cause."

If you read the next chapter, where God later spoke to Solomon, God didn't make any comments of whether Israelites should pray towards the Temple or not. So it was never a command from God.

advocatejare:

Antichristian that is getting his ass whipped.

You can join him too.

I'm enjoying the way I'm exposing the idolatry that you call religion.

None of you have been able to refute the claim that you leave Nigeria to go and kiss a fallen angel meteorite Blackstone in Mecca

Honestly, there's really nothing to state. You started a thread to prove that the Jesus you worship slammed his head on the ground to worship the one true God just as Muslims do but have failed to show us where the same Jesus told you Christians to sing and whine your waist as a form of worship.
Jesus, Ipso facto, is on the same path as Muslims. So you people should look for someone else wey una go do attachee for.

aadoiza:

Honestly, there's really nothing to state. You started a thread to prove that the Jesus you worship slammed his head on the ground to worship the one true God just as Muslims do but have failed to show us where the same Jesus told you Christians to sing and whine your waist as a form of worship.
Ipso facto, Jesus and Muslims are on the same path, so you people should look for someone else wey una go do attachee for.

How I choose to worship my God is none of your business

You can go and be kissing your stone God in Mecca.

Maybe you should show me where your god ask you to be kissing stone

advocatejare:
How choose to worship my God is none of your business.

You can go and be kissing your stone God in Mecca

At least you have agreed that the god you worship is on the same path as Muslims while you Pauline stooges are astray.
Thank you for your honesty.

advocatejare:
How I choose to worship my God is none of your business

You can go and be kissing your stone God in Mecca.

Maybe you should show me where your god ask you to be kissing stone

This should have been your motto in the beginning, the mode of worship shouldn't worry you this much

aadoiza:

At least you have agreed that the god you worship is on the same path as Muslims while you Pauline stooges are astray.
Thank you for your honesty.

Muslims were the ones who copied the Jews. Muhammad not only plagiarized the scriptures, he copied almost everything the Jews of Mecca and Yathrib did just to gain their acceptance but despite all those, they knew he was a demon possessed false prophet.

Muslims worship Quarysh idol, the god of the city of Mecca, an idol represented by Black stone in the Kaaba, a filthy sexually immoral god that promised to pack his followers into Hellfire and a few into a filthy sex party paradise where the least man there will have 72 women he will be having sex with day and night and the females too will be gangraped day and night by men. Everyone will be having sex and the filthy Allah will be there watching them or sleeping with his own women too.


Christians worship Yahweh, the God of the universe the Holy one who resides in the Holy Heaven where everyone will be like angels and there won't be sexual immoralities. The activities that will take place there is worshipping of this Holy God.

Muslims and Christians are not serving the same God.

AryEmber:
This should have been your motto in the beginning, the mode of worship shouldn't worry you this much

The mode of worship doesn't matter to me as long as it is done with purity and with moderacy.

God is more interested in the heart, a contrite heart.

The title of the topic was just there as a sarcasm.

Jesus Christ told us that the true worshippers are those who worship in spirit and in truth

John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

In fact Jesus spoke against the Muslim mode of praying doing showoff so that everyone can see them praying

Matthew 6:5-6
“When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.

But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

“When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again

Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him!"

advocatejare:

The mode of worship doesn't matter to me as long as it is done with purity and with moderacy.

God is more interested in the heart, a contrite heart.

The title of the topic was just there as a sarcasm.

Jesus Christ told us that the true worshippers are those who worship in spirit and in truth

John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

In fact Jesus spoke against the Muslim mode of praying doing showoff so that everyone can see them praying

Matthew 6:5-6
“When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.

But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

“When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again

Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him!"

Seriously? Your last sentence describe what most Christians do while praying. Listen, I am not here to argue with you, infact, I'm about to go and perform that very solah you have a problem with, my own? Let's everyone do their stuff, that's why I quote you to point out to you the very part where you wrote 'How I choose to worship my God is none of your business'

AryEmber:
Seriously? Your last sentence describe what most Christians do while praying. Listen, I am not here to argue with you, infact, I'm about to go and perform that very solah you have a problem with, my own? Let's everyone do their stuff, that's why I quote you to point out to you the very part where you wrote 'How I choose to worship my God is none of your business'

I wish you the best. Nothing do you

advocatejare:
They are still the preferred people. Only believe in Jesus makes us Co heir with Jesus and makes us equal with the Jews in terms of God's preference.

Mr Man, stop deceiving yourself. He's are no longer chosen people. They lost their integrity when they were given chance to believe in Jesus but majority of them rejected him. It was due to their rejection of Jesus that led to their glory, prophethood shifted from them and given to another nation, Arabs. Right now your are Christian but Jews don't believe what you believe. Why are you deceiving yourself?. Even in Israel today population of Muslims are far more higher than CHRISTIANs. Jews don't love you but why are you forcing yourself on them?


[/quote]However you Muslims remain slaves and slaves forever. And your leader Muhammad said he didn't know what will be done to him, he also claimed he was nothing original among the messengers. He was fake. Quran 46:9[/quote] ofcourse we are slaves forever to our Lord. Is anything wrong with that?.

Jesus himself knows nothing. If he doesn't know about the Hour how would he know what will happen to him on Judgement Day?


In the book Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

advocatejare:
Scroll up and read your write up again

no, quote me. That's much better. What you quoted earlier you don't seem to understand my post. I didn't say Arabs are Israelites.

Looks to me I have humbled you to some extent.

Empiree:
no, quote me. That's much better. What you quoted earlier you don't seem to understand my post. I didn't say Arabs are Israelites.

Looks to me I have humbled you to some extent.

You wey dey run kabakabakaba since morning.

I won't be tired of teaching you

advocatejare:

You wey dey run kabakabakaba since morning.

I won't be tired of teaching you

this is you wishful thinking. Since i challenged you on salat you have shifted goalpost

Empiree:
Mr Man, stop deceiving yourself. He's are no longer chosen people. They lost their integrity when they were given chance to believe in Jesus but majority of them rejected him. It was due to their rejection of Jesus that led to their glory, prophethood shifted from them and given to another nation, Arabs. Right now your are Christian but Jews don't believe what you believe. Why are you deceiving yourself?. Even in Israel today population of Muslims are far more higher than CHRISTIANs. Jews don't love you but why are you forcing yourself on them?


However you Muslims remain slaves and slaves forever. And your leader Muhammad said he didn't know what will be done to him, he also claimed he was nothing original among the messengers. He was fake. Quran 46:9 ofcourse we are slaves forever to our Lord. Is anything wrong with that?.

Jesus himself knows nothing. If he doesn't know about the Hour how would he know what will happen to him on Judgement Day?


In the book Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

Jesus knew where he was going.

John 14:2
There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am.

On the other hand, Muhammad was clueless of where he was going. He admitted to be fake and he said he didn't know what will be done to him or to you his followers.


قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَآ أَدْرِى مَا يُفْعَلُ بِى وَلَا بِكُمْ  ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحٰىٓ إِلَىَّ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ
"Say, I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
(QS. Al-Ahqaf 46: Verse 9)

Muhammad was not sure of his salvation even at the point of his death and he was begging Allah the fallen angel to meet the companion in the Hellfire, he later died miserably while having sex and you his followers will join him there if you don't retrace your steps.

Narrated By 'Aisha
I heard the Prophet and listened to him before his death while he was Lying supported on his back, and he was saying, "O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the (highest) companions (of the Hereafter)."
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:715

Empiree:
this is you wishful thinking. Since i challenged you on salat you have shifted goalpost

I didn't shift goal post, I only asked you to show me where u were instructed to pray 5 times daily in the Quran but you lied that it was when Muhammad traveled on the flying donkey to his fairytale heaven that he negotiated for a reduction of the number of times you should pray, but I busted your bubbles by showing that Muhammad your fraudulent prophet stole that fable of traveling to heaven on a flying donkey from Zoroastrianism.

I also opened your yansh by showing how the 3 times prayer he prescribed for you in the Quran was stolen from the Jews!

So if 3 times prayers was prescribed for you in the Quran, why did your false prophet then claim that he helped you to negotiate the prayer down from 50 times a day to 5 times?

FYI some Muslims in Arab countries still observe only 3 times daily prayer as copied from the Jews in the Quran because they realise how fraudulent the own thing looks.

advocatejare:
I didn't shift goal post, I only asked you to show me where u were instructed to pray 5 times daily in the Quran but you lied that it was when Muhammad traveled on the flying donkey to his fairytale heaven that he negotiated for a reduction of the number of times you should pray, but I busted your bubbles by showing that Muhammad your fraudulent prophet stole that fable of traveling to heaven on a flying donkey from Zoroastrianism.

I also opened your yansh by showing how the 3 times prayer he prescribed for you in the Quran was stolen from the Jews!

So if 3 times prayers was prescribed for you in the Quran, why did your false prophet then claim that he helped you to negotiate the prayer down from 50 times a day to 5 times?

FYI some Muslims in Arab countries still observe only 3 times daily prayer as copied from the Jews in the Quran because they realise how fraudulent the own thing looks.

First question you need to answer is, do you believe and pray salat?. If your answer is no, then i will continue wasting my time. I already told you SALAT isnt peculiar to human being from the time of Abraham. So first answer my question otherwise we will continue to drag it. You neither believe in SALAT of muslims or SALAT of Jews

advocatejare:

Jesus knew where he was going.

John 14:2
There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am.

this is john speaking. Besides, your same bible said Jesus can not do anything of his own. "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge.." John 5:30

If Jesus cannot do anything of his own, it means John 14:2 is not independent of John 5:30. It means if God doesn't allow him to get or rescue anyone, he can not.[/quote]

Empiree:
this is john speaking. Besides, your same bible said Jesus can not do anything of his own. "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge.." John 5:30

If Jesus cannot do anything of his own, it means John 14:2 is not independent of John 5:30. It means if God doesn't allow him to get or rescue anyone, he can not.

John speaking indeed.

That was John quoting Jesus.

Oh using the same analogy, any words spoken in Sura Baqara was spoken by a cow abi, since the meaning of that Sura is Cow?

advocatejare:
On the other hand, Muhammad was clueless of where he was going. He admitted to be fake and he said he didn't know what will be done to him or to you his followers.


قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَآ أَدْرِى مَا يُفْعَلُ بِى وَلَا بِكُمْ  ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحٰىٓ إِلَىَّ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ
"Say, I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
(QS. Al-Ahqaf 46: Verse 9)

Muhammad was not sure of his salvation even at the point of his death and he was begging Allah the fallen angel to meet the companion in the Hellfire, he later died miserably while having sex and you his followers will join him there if you don't retrace your steps.

Narrated By 'Aisha
I heard the Prophet and listened to him before his death while he was Lying supported on his back, and he was saying, "O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the (highest) companions (of the Hereafter)."
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:715

why then Jesus will not be able to safe these people?

Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?” Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Matt 7:22-23)


Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’” (Lk 13:23-27)
Later the other virgins also came, saying, “Lord, lord, open up for us.” But he answered, “Truly I say to you, I do not know you.” Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour (Mat 25:12-13).


So, the Hadith and verse of Quran you quoted is telling you that you have to have your own faith. You can not really rely on your parent's faith to make heaven

advocatejare:

John speaking indeed.

That was John quoting Jesus.

Oh using the same analogy, any words spoken in Sura Baqara was spoken by a cow abi, since the meaning of that Sura is Cow?

John quoting Jesus?. John that never met Jesus?. you confused?. Christians say "Gospel according to John. How's he quoting Jesus?

Empiree:
First question you need to answer is, do you believe and pray salat?. If your answer is no, then i will continue wasting my time. I already told you SALAT isnt peculiar to human being from the time of Abraham. So first answer my question otherwise we will continue to drag it. You neither believe in SALAT of muslims or SALAT of Jews

Imagine the foolish question you're asking me, do I pray SALAT? Salat/Solat is the Arabic word for prayer, and you're asking me if I pray prayer?

Empiree:
John quoting Jesus?. John that never met Jesus?. you confused?. Christians say "Gospel according to John. How's he quoting Jesus?

Gospel means "Goodnews" Gospel according to John simply means "The Goodnews Jesus preached as reported by John"

It was the illiterate Muhammad that messed up your brains by lying to you that Jesus brought a book called Gospel. Gospel is not a book brought by Jesus, gospel is the Goodnews of salvation preached by Jesus which was later compiled into a book by his disciples