Mikel Arteta agreed deadline-day sale of Mesut Ozil but Arsenal bosses cancelled the deal

Kbs468:
Mikel Arteta agreed deadline-day sale of Mesut Ozil but Arsenal bosses cancelled the deal

if u ask me

I’ll say Ozil can be useful as a back room staff

Just saying

kokaneprodigy:
if u ask me

I’ll say Ozil can be useful as a back room staff

Just saying

Back room staff as in ball boy (àbí na man sef) or what exactly?

Sincerely all his time at arsenal has not really shown any leadership quality like that. He's doesn't look like someone who deserves any role whatsoever in the club even after retirement.

I don't hate ozil ó, but it is what it is ( in fact I'm one of his advocates here when Good evening was freezing him out).....Ozil is that kind of person who has everything it takes to succeed and even end up succeeding sef, but just doesn't have that morale that inspires others.

I will not lie to u, the only people ozil inspires are those overly religious people that like how he carries his religious belive on and off the pitch

BlueRayDick:


Back room staff as in ball boy (àbí na man sef) or what exactly?

Sincerely all his time at arsenal has not really shown any leadership quality like that. He's doesn't look like someone who deserves any role whatsoever in the club even after retirement.

I don't hate ozil ó, but it is what it is ( in fact I'm one of his advocates here when Good evening was freezing him out).....Ozil is that kind of person who has everything it takes to succeed and even end up succeeding sef, but just doesn't have that morale that inspires others.

I will not lie to u, the only people ozil inspires are those overly religious people that like how he carries his religious belive on and off the pitch

What’s the difference between Ozil and Arteta as players, everything is not by activity.

Ozil is a successful footballer as long as football is concerned. People are just demanding so much from him forgetting his age and using his demeanor against him.

Ozil and Sanchez are of same age, both are 31 as at today. Between him and Sanchez since they parted who has done more for their respective clubs no matter how little the margin the answer is Ozil. Even Sanchez had to run to Italy for all the hype he enjoyed while here.

The question is why is the stick always out on Ozil,?
how many 31 yr old EPL midfielders are playing better than Ozil today.?

kokaneprodigy:

What’s the difference between Ozil and Arteta as players, everything is not by activity.

Ozil is a successful footballer as long as football is concerned. People are just demanding so much from him forgetting his age and using his demeanor against him.

Ozil and Sanchez are of same age, both are 31 as at today. Between him and Sanchez since they parted who has done more for their respective clubs no matter how little the margin the answer is Ozil. Even Sanchez had to run to Italy for all the hype he enjoyed while here.

The question is why is the stick always out on Ozil,?
how many 31 yr old EPL midfielders are playing better than Ozil today.?

Ozil's Demeanor makes him less respected. A player not respected will not make a good backroom staff.

I've not questioned Ozil's professionalism as a player in any way, I'm only stating the obvious that he's not an inspiration as such that he should be handed a back room staff job.

Baba Aguero is 31 and he’s banging in goals when the opportunity presents itself....(although I wouldn’t be slow enough to compare aguero and Ozil sha)

Ozil should be allowed to go when he’s time
At Arsenal is over. As regards arteta , he won a trophy at arsenal as a captain. Wenger his coach spoke highly of him as being a born leader. I think that’s enough to show he has above Ozil

BlueRayDick:


Ozil's Demeanor makes him less respected. A player not respected will not make a good backroom staff.

I've not questioned Ozil's professionalism as a player in any way, I'm only stating the obvious that he's not an inspiration as such that he should be handed a back room staff job.

Baba Aguero is 31 and he’s banging in goals when the opportunity presents itself....(although I wouldn’t be slow enough to compare aguero and Ozil sha)

Ozil should be allowed to go when he’s time
At Arsenal is over. As regards arteta , he won a trophy at arsenal as a captain. Wenger his coach spoke highly of him as being a born leader. I think that’s enough to show he has above Ozil

Ozil didn’t win trophies?
meanwhile I said Midfielder not CF.

My point is for all the sticks Ozil gets he’s usually above most of his pairs of same age when you check his stats.

It was Sanchez activity that got United trapped it was same activity that got Solo, Khalifa and Spy carried away by Guen.

kokaneprodigy:

Ozil didn’t win trophies,
meanwhile I said Midfielder not CF.

My point is for all the sticks Ozil gets he’s usually above most of his pairs of same age when you check his stats.

It was Sanchez activity that got United trapped it was same activity that got Solo, Khalifa and Spy carried away by Guen.

You mentioned midfielders, but in the same post u mentioned Sanchez who is far from being a midfielder, so I felt u weren't keen about the midfield role.

I think it's a great disrespect to refer to Sanchez as an activity former. Sanchez as an arsenal player was nothing like that. Sanchez even scored in F.A cup final.

As regards ozil and Arteta winning trophies, I clearly stated Arteta won trophy as a captain. What better way of showing that u are a leader when u inspired Ur time to a trophy as a captain.

Ozil is obviously a good player, but he's not shown anything that suggests he's a good leader thus far

BlueRayDick:


You mentioned midfielders, but in the same post u mentioned Sanchez who is far from being a midfielder, so I felt u weren't keen about the midfield role.

I think it's a great disrespect to refer to Sanchez as an activity former. Sanchez as an arsenal player was nothing like that. Sanchez even scored in F.A cup final.

As regards ozil and Arteta winning trophies, I clearly stated Arteta won trophy as a captain. What better way of showing that u are a leader when u inspired Ur time to a trophy as a captain.

Ozil is obviously a good player, but he's not shown anything that suggests he's a good leader thus far

Sanchez in his last season was abysmal, he was only basking in his past glory and preying on emotional weakness of most fans with his activity reason I didn’t give a Bleep when he wanted to leave.

Reason I mentioned Sanchez was to enquire why the press is more out on Ozil than Sanchez whereas the latter has been worse off and even earns more than the former. You get my drift.

Kbs468:
Mikel Arteta agreed deadline-day sale of Mesut Ozil but Arsenal bosses cancelled the deal

Because we couldn't sign replacement on time.
I think his time is surely over, I won't miss him

kokaneprodigy:

Sanchez in his last season was abysmal, he was only basking in his past glory and preying on emotional weakness of most fans with his activity reason I didn’t give a Bleep when he wanted to leave.

Reason I mentioned Sanchez was to enquire why the press is more out on Ozil than Sanchez whereas the latter has been worse off and even earns more than the former. You get my drift.

I understand if u are displeased with Sanchez's last season at the club, but saying Sanchez na activity former that got manure sold on his activity forming is a huge disrespect.

The Chilean spent 3 and half seasons at the club, he won 2 F.A cups( he scored in the two finals) and even won 3 community shields along the way......For F*ck sake! When last did we win stuff before his arrival?

As regards his abysmal performance in his last season we all know it was due to his blocked move to Man city which affected him and off the pitch.

Even at man utd, Sanchez still had a better season going by the numbers he posted that year

BlueRayDick:


I understand if u are displeased with Sanchez's last season at the club, but saying Sanchez na activity former that got manure sold on his activity forming is a huge disrespect.

The Chilean spent 3 and half seasons at the club, he won 2 F.A cups( he scored in the two finals) and even won 3 community shields along the way......For F*ck sake! When last did we win stuff before his arrival?

As regards his abysmal performance in his last season we all know it was due to his blocked move to Man city which affected him and off the pitch.

Even at man utd, Sanchez still had a better season going by the numbers he posted that year

Your second paragraph, we can say same for Ozil, can’t we?

Third paragraph Remember I said his last season I took nothing from him bro.

I strongly disagree with your last paragraph

But why is the press out on Ozil than Sanchez afterall Sanchez even earns more doing little to nothing right now.
Sanchez was so useless he had to be loaned to Italy while his parent club pays around half of his wage for him to stay away from them.

kokaneprodigy:

Your second paragraph, we can say same for Ozil, can’t we?

Third paragraph Remember I said his last season I took nothing from him bro.

I strongly disagree with your last paragraph

But why is the press out on Ozil than Sanchez afterall Sanchez even earns more doing little to nothing right now.
Sanchez was so useless he had to be loaned to Italy while his parent club pays around half of his wage for him to stay away from them.

Even when he was with us, I rated Ozil more than him apart from one season.

I have always said that Ozil's demeanor betrays him and nullifies his efforts and work rate. Fans are usually deceived by players jumping up and down and raising the fists etc. Sanchez for one caused us a lot of points with his selfish solo runs that end up with the opposition countering us.

For me, Sanchez had only one decent season with us, I can count three for Ozil.

kokaneprodigy:
if u ask me
I’ll say Ozil can be useful as a back room staff
Just saying

backroom staff for someone earning £350k weekly

kodded:
backroom staff for someone earning £350k weekly

see out his contract and help develop the young goons in midfield, it’s an opinion.

How much does Sanchez earn? what does he do.?

Spy360:

Even when he was with us, I rated Ozil more than him apart from one season.

I have always said that Ozil's demeanor betrays him and nullifies his efforts and work rate. Fans are usually deceived by players jumping up and down and raising the fists etc. Sanchez for one caused us a lot of points with his selfish solo runs that end up with the opposition countering us.

For me, Sanchez had only one decent season with us, I can count three for Ozil.

same reason LVG was lashed at, cos he doesn’t dramatize on the sidelines now they have a “pashunate” OGS.

Spy360:

Even when he was with us, I rated Ozil more than him apart from one season.

I have always said that Ozil's demeanor betrays him and nullifies his efforts and work rate. Fans are usually deceived by players jumping up and down and raising the fists etc. Sanchez for one caused us a lot of points with his selfish solo runs that end up with the opposition countering us.

For me, Sanchez had only one decent season with us, I can count three for Ozil.

Person score for two FA cup finals, u say he had only one decent season for us

Where do u people come up with all theses things sef....no be the same match we all watch that time? Sanchez's time at arsenal was like of the best periods for arsenal in recent times.

He was the deciding factor in most matches we played during these periods. The season Leicester won the league, we handed them defeat home and away and guess who scored most in the two legs?.....Sanchez it was.

I get the fans are pained Sanchez left us when he did, but saying he was an activity former, wasn't spectacular and what have u.....in the face of damning evidence that suggests otherwise is just annoying.

There's a reason a part of Manchester wanted him this season and the other part of Manchester got him the next season. Sanchez did not only inspire arsenal to FA cup wins, he did same for.his country. Or.maybe he's extremely lucky to have used activity forming to avhieve all dis feat

He is working hard to come back. Who does he want to bench?

BELLERIN on the RFB?

Or

SAKA, KOLASINAC & TIENEY put together on the LFB position?

BlueRayDick:


Person score for two FA cup finals, u say he had only one decent season for us

Where do u people come up with all theses things sef....no be the same match we all watch that time? Sanchez's time at arsenal was like of the best periods for arsenal in recent times.

He was the deciding factor in most matches we played during these periods. The season Leicester won the league, we handed them defeat home and away and guess who scored most in the two legs?.....Sanchez it was.

I get the fans are pained Sanchez left us when he did, but saying he was an activity former, wasn't spectacular and what have u.....in the face of damning evidence that suggests otherwise is just annoying.

There's a reason a part of Manchester wanted him this season and the other part of Manchester got him the next season. Sanchez did not only inspire arsenal to FA cup wins, he did same for.his country. Or.maybe he's extremely lucky to have used activity forming to avhieve all dis feat

I will take Sanchez ahead of millions ozil that lazy guy. He was the head, shoulder and leg of Arsenal so unfortunate he left like a villian.
Btw Sanchez didn't score home and away, he scored an hat trick at Leicester while Walcott and welbeck scored at Emirates

BlueRayDick:


Person score for two FA cup finals, u say he had only one decent season for us

Where do u people come up with all theses things sef....no be the same match we all watch that time? Sanchez's time at arsenal was like of the best periods for arsenal in recent times.

He was the deciding factor in most matches we played during these periods. The season Leicester won the league, we handed them defeat home and away and guess who scored most in the two legs?.....Sanchez it was.

I get the fans are pained Sanchez left us when he did, but saying he was an activity former, wasn't spectacular and what have u.....in the face of damning evidence that suggests otherwise is just annoying.

There's a reason a part of Manchester wanted him this season and the other part of Manchester got him the next season. Sanchez did not only inspire arsenal to FA cup wins, he did same for.his country. Or.maybe he's extremely lucky to have used activity forming to avhieve all dis feat

Decent in my post was in comparison to Ozil. Yes, Sanchez was one of our valuable players when he was with us, but in comparison to Ozil, in terms of productivity and team play, I'd give it to Ozil 3-1.

Let me check stats to confirm.

sod09:
I will take Sanchez ahead of millions ozil that lazy guy. He was the head, shoulder and leg of Arsenal so unfortunate he left like a villian.
Btw Sanchez didn't score home and away, he scored an hat trick at Leicester while Walcott and welbeck scored at Emirates

Thanks, although in my post I didn't say he scored home.and away....I said he scored the most in the two legs......E get reason why I use am.like that

Kbs468:

Lol

Whether he likes it or not, he should be leaving us next season because Mari would be retained and William Saliba is coming back.

While not also forgetting Chambers, Luiz, Papa, holding and mavropanos.

Some central defenders have to go seriously else....... it's gonna be a problem for us.

I just want to see Saliba-pablo pairing and partnership in the heart of our defence ooo

Saliba-Pablo...Next season? unlikely.
Now who would u rather we sell come summer?

mostob:
Saliba-Pablo...Next season? unlikely.
Now who would u rather we sell come summer?

Luiz
Sokratis
Mustafi
Mavropanos should all go please

Kbs468:
Luiz Sokratis Mustafi Mavropanos should all go please

I still want Luiz around IMO ....

BlueRayDick:


Thanks, although in my post I didn't say he scored home.and away....I said he scored the most in the two legs......E get reason why I use am.like that

are we now using goals?
Na ask I ask oo

So that when I start using goals as a comparison between Tierney and Pepe make nobody shout

mostob:
I still want Luiz around IMO ....

Luiz is a No no at 33 next season.

It's high time we parade a youthful pairing of Saliba-Holding or saliba-pablo in my own opinion

Why is Arteta forcing mustafi down our throats, can this guy have injury in peace

Gabi and Guendouzhi start

Kbs468:
Gabi and Guendouzhi start

oh even Jerry curl

Spy360:

Decent in my post was in comparison to Ozil. Yes, Sanchez was one of our valuable players when he was with us, but in comparison to Ozil, in terms of productivity and team play, I'd give it to Ozil 3-1.

Let me check stats to confirm.

I don’t blame them, if Wenger has a mobile CF like Auba play in front of him instead of sticking with Giroud they won’t be saying this.

When I watch football I do not look at just what a play does for himself I actually take a broad look at how what he does affect his team mates and the overall team performance. Unfortunately fans remember those who scored the goals even the WPOTY and Balondor are towing that path now.

kokaneprodigy:
are we now using goals?
Na ask I ask oo

So that when I start using goals as a comparison between Tierney and Pepe make nobody shout

Bros we started our discussion off Ozil deserving enough to be handed a back room staff role when his time is over.

I stated it clearly ozil hasn't done much to deserve that role. U asked if any 31 year Olds make as much Impact as he does on the pitch presently. While I was going to answer no to that, I caught a part of Ur post where u made mention of Sanchez in a way that rubbishes all his good days at arsenal.

This led us to the discussion involving ozil and Sanchez. I said it from the beginning that ozil is a great player but not a leader / inspiration to other players. His influence on other players is negligible. This is well known in and around the club.

I don't see how u will drag Sanchez in the mud and expect me to see ozil as untouchable. I watched games where ozil down tools, but the indifatigable Alexis gave us a lift. Sanchez stood up to big occasions even when some teammates come up with frustrating displays.

If want us to compare the 3 and half season performance of Sanchez at the club with that ozil during that period, I can actually take my time bring out the records season per season and show u Sanchez is way heads and heels more influential than ozil was. Statement from other players about the two.players will even.be considered.and.u will see.

kokaneprodigy:

I don’t blame them, if Wenger has a mobile CF like Auba play in front of him instead of sticking with Giroud they won’t be saying this.

When I watch football I do not look at just what a play does for himself I actually take a broad look at how what he does affect his team mates and the overall team performance. Unfortunately fans remember those who scored the goals even the WPOTY and Balondor are towing that path now.

since last season, how many has he contributed for auba to become the joint top scorer or since Arteta bought him back

sod09:
since last season, how many has he contributed for auba to become the joint top scorer or since Arteta bought him back

i forgot to add “in his prime”,
Ozil has passed his prime