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Smooth landing at home

Happy Sunday everyone.

MelesZenawi:


I hardly read wrong text if the person can't present his point in few lines.

Let me state the one I knew well...Nnewi has king before the white men arrived. There was nothing like warrant chief imposed on Nnewi. Ezeodumegwu whom the white man wanted to use as warrant chief rejected it and bluntly told them that the town has an. Already existing ruling class.

Stop spreading too much of what you were told without research.

Same in Nnewi is also same in many towns. Nnewi doesn't contest for igweship or Eze, it is simply hereditary in line of fathers. If the current king dies, the first son automatically becomes king.


Thank you.

The bolded is right and wrong. What Nnewi had before the coming of the white man was a Chief not King. The colonial master elevated the position to kingly staus under the warrant chief indirect rule system.

However, Nnewi don't have two Kingship stools as other neighbouring clans. There was an existing Ofo title holder and Ezeodumegwu respected that stool and told the British to respect their tradition. This is why there is only one Igwe Nnewi and no Eze Nnewi and Igwe Nnewi as others have.

Take a look at Umuoji for example and tell me what you see? You'll see an Eze Umuoji as well as Igwe Umuoji. The former is the Ofo holder and the later, who unlike Ezeodumegwu didn't respect the Ofo holder sought the warrant chieftaincy.

The scenario happened in Orlu where there exist an Igwe Orlu and an Eze Orlu. However, the coming of democracy in 1999 fragmented the stool more, with successive government creating autonomous communities from existing kingdoms. Similar to what is happening right now in Kano emirate and almost happened in Ibadan.

UdechiHD:
The bolded is right and wrong. What Nnewi had before the coming of the white man was a Chief not King. The colonial master elevated the position to kingly staus under the warrant chief indirect rule system.

However, Nnewi don't have two Kingship stools as other neighbouring clans. There was an existing Ofo title holder and Ezeodumegwu respected that stool and told the British to respect their tradition. This is why there is only one Igwe Nnewi and no Eze Nnewi and Igwe Nnewi as others have.

Take a look at Umuoji for example and tell me what you see? You'll see an Eze Umuoji as well as Igwe Umuoji. The former is the Ofo holder and the later, who unlike Ezeodumegwu didn't respect the Ofo holder sought the warrant chieftaincy.

The scenario happened in Orlu where there exist an Igwe Orlu and an Eze Orlu. However, the coming of democracy in 1999 fragmented the stool more, with successive government creating autonomous communities from existing kingdoms. Similar to what is happening right now in Kano emirate and almost happened in Ibadan.

Mr don't twist a bare fact before you after going back to research, u jump in here with another nonsense narrative.

There is no right or wrong...It is what it is and what isn't. .....



Stop misbehaving, research well and read.


Nnewi has four semi-autonomous parts: Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi. Each of these quarters has an Obi which has been hereditary since inception, but the Obi of Otolo (the most senior quarter) is the Igwe of Nnewi. Whoever is the Obi of Otolo is automatically the Igwe of Nnewi. It is not contestable. The Whiteman met it like that when he came.

When the Whiteman (Major Moorhouse) and his army marched into Nnewi in 1904, the young Igwe, whose father had just died, was spirited away for fear that the Whiteman would kill him. His uncle Nwosu Odumegwu, who was the richest man in Nnewi then, received the visitors. They thought he was the Igwe but he told them no that the Igwe was in mourning and should not see visitors while mourning the late Igwe. Given that Ezeodumegwu was wealthy and influential, the Whiteman sought to make him the Warrant Chief of Nnewi, but he vehemently refused.


The Whiteman was said to have expressed his surprise that an African would refuse to be made the Warrant Chief of his people by the Whiteman. When Ezeodumegwu and other elders got a firm assurance that the young king would not be harmed, they arranged for a public meeting between the Igwe and the Whiteman at the Nkwo Nnewi Square. On the appointed day, Igwe accompanied by the other three Obi of the three quarters came out to meet with the Whiteman in the presence of the Nnewi People. Igwe was a young man of 23 years then.

Ps: Ezeodumegwu was just a title he took...Don't stress your ignorance far.

pazienza:

My rational deductive analysis of Igbo history after examining details of independent Igbo speaking groups .

Igbo has no head or whatever as Nri/Eri promoters want to do.

Igbos are ancient beings. Ndi Gboo! We have been here for a long time. And we didn't come to this part of the world together.
Everything points to us coming from different directions. We came from a Northern direction, then split around Kogi. One group got to the land we currently call Yorubaland, the other got to Benue and made their way down Cross River, the other which the Nri/Eri group are part of made their way down through the Kogi-Enugu/Anambra border.

The group that branched off Kogi, to reach Yorubaland lived there for a long time, until the expansion of Nupes Drove Yorubas down into their territory, they co existed with Yorubas for a while, until they no longer can, and many of them were pushed further down into Edo/Yoruba borders, those of them that remained, where assimilated by Yorubas, and impacted on the shared words between Igbo and Yoruba language today.
Once in Edo, they assimilated the Ozara people and co existed side by side with them, while some of them continued the journey further East to found the ancient Igbo speaking communities in Ika, Enuani and Ukwuani. Their Yoruba friends who accompanied them in their journey from Ondo/Edo border are the Yoruboid speaking Odiani communities in Enuani.
Those of them in Edo were later pushed out by Edos who had been subdued by the Yoruba current dynasty, forcing them to migrate Eastwards again, where they met Igbos who had migrated there long ago. The Ezechima, Akalaka And Esumai migration stories are part of this second wave of migration from Edo into an already Igbo speaking communities East or south of Edo. These Edo cultured but Igbo speaking groups, united scattered Igbo communities in Anioma into centralized towns. Thus giving the wrong impression of those Igbo speaking communities being recent arrivals into the area, since the history of these towns are currently being told starting from this era when the Edo cultured arrivals reorganized the scattered indigenous Igbo speaking communities there into independent towns.
The fall of OGIDI played a big role in this.

The Igbos who came through the Kogi-Anambra/Enugu borders also came in two barges.
The first group went straight through this area to get to parts of Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi state. They didn't stay in Kogi at all. They had a straight run through and hence form the core of the autochtonous Igbo belt between Awka-Okigwe-Orlu -Owerri-Nsukka people speak of.
Many of them no longer have memories of how they migrated into this part of the world, hence their claim to have been created in their current location.
The second group stayed in Kogi for centuries co inhabiting with the natives there until the expansion of the Jukuns from Kwarafa kingdom changed the dynamics of power in the area, forcing them to leave in a wave to meet already Igbo speaking communities in Northern Enugu and Anambra. These group of Igbos were Igala cultured and their migration caused rearrangement the town settings of the Igbo communities of Northern Enugu and Northern Anambra. It's also their migration that was poorly preserved by oral history as Igalas who migrated into Igbo and became Igbo today. They were never Igalas, they were Igala cultured Igbos who were subservient to Idah, before they lost power and were forced to flee southwards. Some of them stayed behind in Igala became assimilated as Igalas and impacted on Igala language and culture, resulting in the few shared Igbo words between Ndiigbo and Igalas today. Including the Market days. Many of them also migrated with their Igala friends and in-laws into Northern Enugu and Anambra. This together with later invasion of Igalas further south into Northern Enugu, Anambra and parts of Anioma (Ebu) resulted in formation of those Igala speaking enclaves in those parts of Igbo land.

Last but not the least. The third branch of Igbo who migrated through Benue. These groups are divided into two. One coinhabited with the Idomas and Igedes and migrated into Northern Ebonyi when Tivs who came from cameroun started pushing down on Idomas and Igedes. This group assimilated the Keles(Effium, Okpoto, Ntezi are the remnant of the Kele also called Ukelle) who they met on arrival to Ebonyi North and central. They are the Ezza, Izzi and Ikwo of today.
The second group of this third branch had a run through the Northern parts of Cross River, and gave rise to the Abiriba, Ohafia, Aro, Bende and Ehugbo groups.

Thereafter, we had cross migrations within ourselves. The Nri groups crossing the River Niger to get to Anioma, the Akarai (Akili) crossing the River Niger from Ndokwa East to form Akili Ozizzor, Akili Ogidi and Akili Atani, the Ubulus (Ubulu uku) crossing the River Niger from Anioma to form all the Ubulu/Uvuru/Uburu communities in South East. The Isu crossing the great River from SE to found communities in Enuani, Igbo-uzor being their main town in the area. The Ogutas, Ndonis, Egbemas,Ogba leaving the Ndokwa area to their current abodes.

Too many intra migrations to and fro made it hard for our ancestors to leave behind a sensible origin stories for us.

There is also muted whispers of a once big and strong kingdom formed in the heart of Anioma around Ika-Enuani boundary, called OGIDI. It was formed by the first wave of ancient Igbos who made it into the area from SW direction. The kingdom collapsed after sometime sending it's inhabitants into mass migration to and fro the area.

The bolded is the truth. We came from the northern direction to where we currently are. Precisely, the point of dispersion began in the NOK valley in current Kaduna state.

If you take a look at the similarities between us and other YEAI group of languages, you'll see an undeniable relationship. We have related spoken languages amongst ourselves. And the artifacts of Igbo Ukwu, Ife and Benin all share similarities with the NOK artifacts.

Historians agree that the NOK civilization was the mother of other civilization in present Nigeria which thrived in prehistoric times. There are striking similarities between the NOK artifacts and the Egyptian artifacts. Thus , it is agreed that the NOK likely migrated from ancient Egypt.

However, what is still debatable is the conundrums of revisionist history of many southern tribes. Some groups in order to create a superiority complex identity magnify their existence as sky beings. This is similar to the story of Oduduwa of Ife, the Ogiso of Igodomingodo and Eri.

I've a deep feeling that in truth, we and other ethnic groups such as the Yoruba, Nupe, Gbagyi, Edo, Igala, Idoma, Akan, Fon etc are related and that our true cradle of civilization lies in the NOK valley of Kaduna, before our dispersion down south occurred.

MelesZenawi:



Mr don't twist a bare fact before you after going back to research, u jump in here with another nonsense narrative.

There is no right or wrong...It is what it is and what isn't. .....



Stop misbehaving, research well and read.


Nnewi has four semi-autonomous parts: Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi. Each of these quarters has an Obi which has been hereditary since inception, but the Obi of Otolo (the most senior quarter) is the Igwe of Nnewi. Whoever is the Obi of Otolo is automatically the Igwe of Nnewi. It is not contestable. The Whiteman met it like that when he came.

When the Whiteman (Major Moorhouse) and his army marched into Nnewi in 1904, the young Igwe, whose father had just died, was spirited away for fear that the Whiteman would kill him. His uncle Nwosu Odumegwu, who was the richest man in Nnewi then, received the visitors. They thought he was the Igwe but he told them no that the Igwe was in mourning and should not see visitors while mourning the late Igwe. Given that Ezeodumegwu was wealthy and influential, the Whiteman sought to make him the Warrant Chief of Nnewi, but he vehemently refused.


The Whiteman was said to have expressed his surprise that an African would refuse to be made the Warrant Chief of his people by the Whiteman. When Ezeodumegwu and other elders got a firm assurance that the young king would not be harmed, they arranged for a public meeting between the Igwe and the Whiteman at the Nkwo Nnewi Square. On the appointed day, Igwe accompanied by the other three Obi of the three quarters came out to meet with the Whiteman in the presence of the Nnewi People. Igwe was a young man of 23 years then.

Ps: Ezeodumegwu was just a title he took...Don't stress your ignorance far.

This is of a truth

Even for some of us, our leader Nnamd Kanu from faraway Abia state recognized the origin of Igbo land when he visited Eri king at Obu Gad

Our leader Nnamdi kanu fell flat in recognition of his origin at Obu Gad

Abia1stboy:



This is of a truth

I just tire for that man that's why I won't allow what I knew very well slide like this.

This is like spreading falsehood by him and he was feeling that that he is right.

MelesZenawi:



Mr don't twist a bare fact before you after going back to research, u jump in here with another nonsense narrative.

There is no right or wrong...It is what it is and what isn't. .....



Stop misbehaving, research well and read.


Nnewi has four semi-autonomous parts: Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi. Each of these quarters has an Obi which has been hereditary since inception, but the Obi of Otolo (the most senior quarter) is the Igwe of Nnewi. Whoever is the Obi of Otolo is automatically the Igwe of Nnewi. It is not contestable. The Whiteman met it like that when he came.

When the Whiteman (Major Moorhouse) and his army marched into Nnewi in 1904, the young Igwe, whose father had just died, was spirited away for fear that the Whiteman would kill him. His uncle Nwosu Odumegwu, who was the richest man in Nnewi then, received the visitors. They thought he was the Igwe but he told them no that the Igwe was in mourning and should not see visitors while mourning the late Igwe. Given that Ezeodumegwu was wealthy and influential, the Whiteman sought to make him the Warrant Chief of Nnewi, but he vehemently refused.


The Whiteman was said to have expressed his surprise that an African would refuse to be made the Warrant Chief of his people by the Whiteman. When Ezeodumegwu and other elders got a firm assurance that the young king would not be harmed, they arranged for a public meeting between the Igwe and the Whiteman at the Nkwo Nnewi Square. On the appointed day, Igwe accompanied by the other three Obi of the three quarters came out to meet with the Whiteman in the presence of the Nnewi People. Igwe was a young man of 23 years then.

Ps: Ezeodumegwu was just a title he took...Don't stress your ignorance far.

My point still remain, Igbo's didn't have Kings. The Ofo title is hereditary in Igboland and passes from father to son. The four quarters of Nnewi was founded on the stool of the the Ofo where each quarter is headed by an elder called Obi/Eze/Ichie. By rightly of seniority, the most senior quarter assumes the headship of the whole community.

This isn't a system of Kingship. This is pure Igbo republicanism at work. The Obi's held the Ofo and were the chiefs of their immediate houses who represented their quarters in the council of elders. They had no dictatorial powers, had no army, could not tax the people and could be removed if they broke the laws of the village.

The British introduced Kingship into Igbo land with the warrant chief system for the purpose of taxation and to enforce colonial rule.
Go and learn the culture and traditions of your people before you come out to argue with me.

MelesZenawi:


I hardly read wrong text if the person can't present his point in few lines.

Let me state the one I knew well...Nnewi has king before the white men arrived. There was nothing like warrant chief imposed on Nnewi. Ezeodumegwu whom the white man wanted to use as warrant chief rejected it and bluntly told them that the town has an. Already existing ruling class.

Stop spreading too much of what you were told without research.

Same in Nnewi is also same in many towns. Nnewi doesn't contest for igweship or Eze, it is simply hereditary in line of fathers. If the current king dies, the first son automatically becomes king.


Thank you.

Shut up and stop talking about Nnewi you know nothing about...I'm from Nnewi and we never had kings before the white men came...we only had umunna with a chief who was incharge of the communities...infact Nnewi itself as it is today was from different people who were independent and decided to group themselves together

Igbo had kings even before the coming of colonial masters. For instance the Obi of Onitsha dynasty has been before Europeans came to Africa

UdechiHD:
[s]My point still remain, Igbo's didn't have Kings. The Ofo title is hereditary in Igboland and passes from father to son. The four quarters of Nnewi was founded on the stool of the the Ofo where each quarter is headed by an elder called Obi/Eze. By rightly of seniority, the most senior quarter assumes the headship of the whole community.

This isn't a system of Kingship. This is pure Igbo republicanism at work. The Obi's held the Ofo and were the chiefs of their immediate houses who represented their quarters in the council of elders. They had no dictatorial powers, had no army, could not tax the people and could be removed if they broke the laws of the village.

The British introduced Kingship into Igbo land with the warrant chief system for the purpose of taxation and to enforce colonial rule.[/s]

Rest and stop disgracing yourself further.
King in igbo means. Eze or Igwe...so what are you even writing.

Everybody can't be Imo state that has destroyed everything remaining of culture in that state. Cultureless, no kings.. even two compounds will fight for autonomous community.

One small community will have 4 ezes of each autonomous community. This is what greediness and bitterness can cause.

What you refer to as king today are just bunch of recalcitrant characters with no substance.

Go to mbaise you will see 9 autonomous
Orlu you will meet 27 autonomous ezes
Owerri that one worst pass....every street has autonomous this and autonomous that.

Don't use the nonsense happening in Imo state to think it is the samething other places.


Gidigidi bu ugwu eze...

For instance Obi of Onitsha dynasty is over 400years.

Before the Europeans came there were existing cultures and language which they relied on. Their first contact in Igbo land was Onitsha, no wonder the first igbo literature, bible etc were written in Onitsha dialect.

okpalaAnambra:

Shut up and stop talking about Nnewi you know nothing about...I'm from Nnewi and we never had kings before the white men came...we only had umunna with a chief who was incharge of the communities...infact Nnewi itself as it is today was from different people who were independent and decided to group themselves together

Please shift to one side and go and meet your Eze Dick in Abia state.

As far this traditional is here, you don't deserve my response not even one bit.

Move back to Abia and stop disgracing yourself further.

Abia1stboy:
Igbo had kings even before the coming of colonial masters. For instance the Obi of Onitsha dynasty has been before Europeans came to Africa

Don't mind those clowns that greediness has spoit their traditional system.

By the time Europeans arrived Onitsha with missionaries in 1857 there were already existing order, culture, language, traditional government that points to the origin of igbo land in this axis particularly Eri/Nri.

I can't believe you people are arguing over modern ezeship. It's the legacy of the warrant chief system. This is not news. The word "eze" was used to legitimize the warrant chiefs after the British ended their colonial rule. C'mon now. Umu Igbo, are you ignorant of your own history?

Also, the term "eze" did not mean king. It's more appropriate meaning is an individual with ritual authority within a community. Ritual authority was with respect to managing veneration of or the upkeep of the local shrines, and often times serving as a custodian of local custom. The Eze did not hold authority over the daily lives of people and therefore had no subjects, which are key features of actual kingship (monarchy).

The Eze typically held the ofo as a sign of their ritual authority. In some places, like the south, lineages held ofo and not eze.

Also, there was hereditary/divine rulership in the region before Europeans came. These cases were small in number, but represent the closest thing to actual kingship in the area. Nnewi is part of this category that possessed the closest thing to actual kingship.

Anyhow, long story short... The Igbo ethnolinguistic region went from having about three (if I remember correctly) known hereditary/divine rule ships to becoming the land of a thousand eze in just a few decades, and these self-serving dummies are now kings. Ha. Modern ezeship is a farce.

I had to unpack the bollocks you wrote up there. First of all, the Eze Nri is not just a chief priest but a spiritual and cultural leader who didnt wield any military powers. He lives mostly in seclusion , celebrate the Igu Aro , initiate the ozo , and igba afa etc. Many Nri communities used to pay tribute(Ikpo Nhu) to the Eze Nri. So, he is not a king like Oba of Bini but he wielded much influence , especially in Anambra ,Enugu, Delta ,and Northern Imo. Dont get me wrong , I am not saying Nri invented most of what we know as Omanbala culture today but they spearheaded it. You dont have to throw those little jibes at Nri but you cant change the records.

If you want to present the argument that says Eze Nri is a mere chief what then do you call the men at the apex of Nze na Ozo like the Agbalanze , Ndichie Ume etc. I also noticed you tried very hard to bring Eze Nri in comparisons with Eze Aro but the latter wielded no cultural influence. Nri and Aro were not the same, while Aro was set up as a money making venture(irrespective of the source) Nri was a spiritual and culrural Mecca with Eze Nri as a priest King with Mbuluchis. Ama ka nmili ama oga akikia ka dia n'aru...You ca never undo the greatness of Nri. And like I said many towns in Anambra contributed to the Omanbala culture..the Onichas, the Idenmilis , the Aguleri , the Oyis , the Awkas etc. These areas and more made what I refer to Omanbala culture.

Ezeulu is a chief priest who was assigned to a shrine. I am eminently from the area Achebe wrote about, Idenmili. Dont teach me my history , thats my job.

Abia1stboy:
For instance Obi of Onitsha dynasty is over 400years.

Dynasty lol! You mean Onitsha mili the lowest amongst the Eze Chima clan or another Onitsha mili . Who did this dynasty rule over? When was this so called dynasty formed? A dynasty that limited itself to the small space on the banks of the niger.

A dynasty that could not conquer the small neighbours of Nkpo, Ogbaru and was barely allocated a few piece of land to live. Please don't make us laugh. A dynasty that was unknown before the coming of Bishop Crowther, who used that section of Igboland for his missionary activities.

Well, every clan too has a dynasty. I can begin to mention the Ofo holders of my clan and allot them dynasty according to the genealogy, isn't it. I'll name myself Udechi X (the tenth) since I'm an Ofo holder and in line to the throne of my father. Lol!

Stop quoting me if you know nothing. Now it is about conquests and no longer about its existence. Get proper education

ChinenyeN:
I can't believe you people are arguing over modern ezeship. It's the legacy of the warrant chief system. This is not news. The word "eze" was used to legitimize the warrant chiefs after the British ended their colonial rule. C'mon now. Umu Igbo, are you ignorant of your own history?

Also, the term "eze" did not mean king. It's more appropriate meaning is an individual with ritual authority within a community. Ritual authority was with respect to managing veneration of or the upkeep of the local shrines, and often times serving as a custodian of local custom. The Eze did not hold authority over the daily lives of people and therefore had no subjects, which are key features of actual kingship (monarchy).

The Eze typically held the ofo as a sign of their ritual authority. In some places, like the south, lineages held ofo and not eze.

Also, there was hereditary/divine rulership in the region before Europeans came. These cases were small in number, but represent the closest thing to actual kingship in the area. Nnewi is part of this category that possessed the closest thing to actual kingship.

Anyhow, long story short... The Igbo ethnolinguistic region went from having about three (if I remember correctly) known hereditary/divine rule ships to becoming the land of a thousand eze in just a few decades, and these self-serving dummies are now kings. Ha. Modern ezeship is a farce.

For those using Eze as prefix not old and long standing tradition we know.

Eze is more prominent in Imo/Abia/Rivers/ebonyi/Enugu....



More like these states doesn't really have culture at all...

Obi of Onitsha dynasty proves that civilisation and origin of igbo land started in this region where Eri king/kingdom started off.

MelesZenawi:
More like these states doesn't really have culture at all...

More appropriately, we do not share your culture.

Obi of Onitsha dynasty was already established with instruments of government before Crowther, Equino and rest arrived Onitsha. This points to its origin.

ChinenyeN:


More appropriately, we do not share your culture.

You don't have any..so you have to take the right one we are giving you.

We can't sit and allow you guys descrate igbo culture. It is our duty to call you guys to order.

MelesZenawi:
You don't have any..so you have to take the right one we are giving you.

We can't sit and allow you guys descrate igbo culture. It is our duty to call you guys to order.

So you’re one of the Anambra puritans who think you gave pre-existing groups of people civilization? Hehe. This is who I’m supposed to happily share unity with?

We will desecrate your culture if we like. Sit there and froth at the mouth.