Raumdeuter will not stop disturbing us with this issue of penalty offence each time a slight offence is committed and his favourite team is at the receiving end.

The last time he said something about it, I wanted to tackle him but I decided to let it go because I didn't have the time to look for the research article that I once read. But, this time I had the time to go look for the article.

This is it

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00844/full



Excerpts

Descriptive analyses (Table 4) of the investigated penalty kicks reveal that there was no penalty that was conducted according to the prevailing football rules. In most of these cases (96.3%), even players of both teams (including the goalkeeper) misbehaved. This varied slightly from league to league (p < 0.001; Cramer’s V = 0.13). In the German Bundesliga (93.9%), and in particular in the Austrian Bundesliga (88.5%) there were fewer incidents in which players of both teams (including the goalkeeper) broke the rules. However, this proportion was much higher in the English Premier League (99.3%) and the Italian Serie A (98.5%). No statistical difference can be found between the cup competition and the leagues (p = 0.809).

TABLE 4
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Table 4. Descriptive results are presented with respect to infringements, who is responsible for the infringements, and how many of the respective cases were correctly judged by the umpire.

In total, the referees correctly judged 2.8% (n = 17) of the infringements. In most of these incidents (82.4%; n = 14) the referee judged correctly by not actively interrupting the game because the penalty kick resulted in a goal and the players of the attacking team behaved according to the football rules. In three cases, the referee actively interrupted the game and made the players repeat the penalty kick due to the misbehavior of outfield players from both teams as well as the goalkeeper.


There is a common belief among various stakeholders from causal fans to sport theorists that some sports have unwritten rules, which includes the intentional mishandling of some rules. In this paper we could provide empirical proof supporting this common believe for two such trivial offenses: various misbehaviours during the performance of penalty kicks and violations of the maximum time limit a goalkeeper can have control of the ball with his hands.

Regarding the penalty study, this research shows that all investigated penalty kicks were not conducted as the book of rules prescribes. Misbehavior occurs in all investigated European football leagues. During each penalty kick at least one player commits a rule violation. Interestingly, in most incidents none of the parties involved behaves correctly. However, it is not too surprising that players try to stretch the rules as far as possible in order to profit from it. In most incidents, the fact that the players misbehave might be a sequence of reactions started by just one player moving too early and, concurrently, other players following to compensate for the potential disadvantage. For instance, if an attacker enters the penalty area first in order to get a potential rebound, a defender is probably going to follow in order to compensate for the disadvantage.

Nearly all refereeing decisions were wrong. There are three different scenes a referee and his assistants have to monitor: The penalty kick taker, the goal line (observing the goalkeeper), and the eighteen-yard line (observing the rest of the players). On the one hand, there is one match official focusing on each scene. This actually seems to be an easy task. On the other hand, all match officials need to recognize when the penalty kick taker touches the ball and, at the same time, judge whether another player commits a rule violation. Firstly, this is impossible and secondly, sometimes players only slightly violate the rules in such a way that a human being might not be able to perceive it in real time. Unfortunately, we did not collect information about the amount of time a player misbehaved early, or how far a player entered the penalty area, or how far the goalkeeper left the goal line. This kind of information should be collected in a future study to help in answering this question. In the course of this research, there was the opportunity to stop the video and check each single frame to identify rule violations. As the video assistant referee has been introduced in several leagues today, this opportunity also exists for match officials. However, it seems that the misbehavior during penalty kicks is still there, but this should be part of further research as the data of the penalty study was recorded before the introduction of the video assistant.

Elnino4ladies:

When did it become a crime to be a bald fraud

raumdeuter:


He gave you a logical reason and when Zinchenko got his red, no one complained about it even without VAR involved

If that was LiVARpool that Penalty would be retaken for Lloris stepping off his line and for the 2nd foul on Sterling

the logical explanation to the bolded is because VAR have reviewed it and seen that it was not the contact from Lloris that fell sterling, but that had already started falling before the contact.

Greatihex:
the logical explanation to the bolded is because VAR have reviewed it and seen that it was not the contact from Lloris that fell sterling, but that had already started falling before the contact.

But when its Mane or Salah already falling its a different rule

raumdeuter:


But when its Mane or Salah already falling its a different rule

but when it is sterling stamping on alli it is a different rule too.


There is inconsistency in judgment everywhere and it is not peculiar to any club.

All we can say is that some club benefit more than others from controversial decisions (especially teams that win the title) but in all, the inconsistency is evident in almost all the matches.


Before the introduction of VAR, man City has benefitted a lot from these controversial calls during their title winning seasons. The last people that should complain about these kind of decisions should be the city fans.

Imagine getting sent off TWICE in a match!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51350811?ns_linkname=sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&fbclid=IwAR3kw1D7YJ1UGXZRRcdzCtvL8t2ZL-qyYks5hEJxMHNBVrzwUZmlF6Cqcg8

raumdeuter:


When they score its the forwards being brilliant when they dont its fraudiola doing a poor job

When Tammy was missing chances did you also blame Lampard for doing a poor job

See no substitute for lack of sense

When City won back to back local epl titles, it was Fraudiola that did i not the attackers that made it happen.

Nincompooop.

City should focus on a resurgent Madrid in the CL. The title race was over after that 3-1 loss at Anfield

airmark:


When City won back to back local epl titles, it was Fraudiola that did i not the attackers that made it happen.

Nincompooop.

Bwuahahahaha

The inevitable L is confusing dayo ojare

A40:
City should focus on a resurgent Madrid in the CL. The title race was over after that 3-1 loss at Anfield

Are you sure about this? This was what we were told after the match

Eruditor:


You guys are getting too excited for nothing tbh. If I had any doubts about City before. It was cleared today. Now I am more certain that they will win the league.

airmark:


When City won back to back local epl titles, it was Fraudiola that did i not the attackers that made it happen.

Nincompooop.

When Tammy missed chances is it Lampard you blame

Amukunmeko

Hidden Hazard 29yrs old 984mins in all competition 1 goal

Ansu Fati 17yrs old 853mins in all competition 5 goals

If I speak

hensben airmark chelseafan1, Mapoka and all citadel students, excuses are welcome

A40:
City should focus on a resurgent Madrid in the CL. The title race was over after that 3-1 loss at Anfield

City will lose. That Madrid team has been compact and very good.

They even have a better defensive record than Loserpool.

rationalmind:


Are you sure about this? This was what we were told after the match

Lool I can only speak for myself. That comeback vs Barca is what has created this Liverpool problem we are seeing so. Barcelona had one job

larride:


City will lose. That Madrid team has been compact and very good.

They even have a better defensive record than Loserpool.

Lool that Madrid no too spectacular like that. Is it not the same Madrid PSG wiped the floor with? I won't definitively tag them favorites vs City, the likes of Atletico and some of their competition cannot buy a goal right now.

That reminds me where is your guy Kagawa 10 and what does he have to say about his guy Thomas Lemar, the biggest flop in La Liga history?

A40:
Lool that Madrid no too spectacular like that. Is it not the same Madrid PSG wiped the floor with? I won't definitively tag them favorites vs City, the likes of Atletico and some of their competition cannot buy a goal right now.

That reminds me where is your guy Kagawa 10 and what does he have to say about his guy Thomas Lemar, the biggest flop in La Liga history?

What do you mean? Lemar is better than Mbappe my fren

O boy! Men don go scientific on top Dayo matter

raumdeuter:
Hidden Hazard 29yrs old 984mins in all competition 1 goal

Ansu Fati 17yrs old 853mins in all competition 5 goals

If I speak

hensben airmark chelseafan1, Mapoka and all citadel students, excuses are welcome

Is this the solution you've found for fraudiola?

diggz:


Is this the solution you've found for fraudiola?

Is this the solution to the fraud sitting double digits above your team?

raumdeuter:


When Tammy missed chances is it Lampard you blame

Amukunmeko

You praised Fraudiola for success, you should blame him for this failure too.

Apari of Ogbomosho.

airmark:
You praised Fraudiola for success, you should blame him for this failure too.

Apari of Ogbomosho.

Why are you not blaming Lampard for Tammys misses or for Kepas mistakes in goal

Ikputu Onu

Unlimited22:

What do you mean? Lemar is better than Mbappe my fren

I dey vex say I take am serious sef. Obviously na awada he dey do

raumdeuter:


Why are you not blaming Lampard for Tammys misses or for Kepas mistakes in goal

Ikputu Onu

Because they haven't won back to back epl titles like Aguero, Sterling, Jesus etc.

Bald outside and inside.

Sterling is such a shameless diver though. He had no business not getting sent off yesterday. Makes Pep's critique of Mané all the more hypocritical as the worst diver in the league is on his team

A40:
Lool I can only speak for myself. That comeback vs Barca is what has created this Liverpool problem we are seeing so. Barcelona had one job

I expect Liverpool to burn out from next season and if they don't, I can derive satisfaction from knowing Apari won't be winning another league.
That's assuming he won't be going on another sabbatical when this season ends

A40:
Sterling is such a shameless diver though. He had no business not getting sent off yesterday. Makes Pep's critique of Mané all the more hypocritical as the worst diver in the league is on his team

Cc raumdeuter aka Laumdeuter

rationalmind:


I expect Liverpool to burn out from next season and if they don't, I can derive satisfaction from knowing Apari won't be winning another league.
That's assuming he won't be going on another sabbatical when this season ends

It depends. Of course they might not dominate Europe but it's hard to look past them in England. I think they still have a 2-3 year window barring catastrophic injuries.

Allison - 28
Mané - 28
Salah - 28
Firmino - 29
VVD - 29
TAA - 22
Wijnaldum - 30
Chamberlain - 28
Robertson - 26
Origi
Keita
Henderson - 30

No core player on the wrong side of 30. Can see them winning another league title at the very least

raumdeuter:
Hidden Hazard 29yrs old 984mins in all competition 1 goal

Ansu Fati 17yrs old 853mins in all competition 5 goals

If I speak

hensben airmark chelseafan1, Mapoka and all citadel students, excuses are welcome

You're sha trying hard to dodge this L Apari has shamefully brought you.

airmark:


Because they haven't won back to back epl titles like Aguero, Sterling, Jesus etc.

Bald outside and inside.

How would they win, when they have an incompetent coach thats double digit in the table behind a fraud

Ikputu Onu

BikeMan:
You're sha trying hard to dodge this L Apari has shamefully brought you.

This L must be so great that he is 10 points above your team after winning back to back league titles

In English football, of the last 8 trophies, this fraud won 7, yet those that are double digits behind him are dishing L

Its like some people already know in life they cannot be succesful so they devote their time to bad belle

raumdeuter:


This L must be so great that he is 10 points above your team after winning back to back league titles

In English football, of the last 8 trophies, this fraud won 7, yet those that are double digits behind him are dishing L

Its like some people already know in life they cannot be succesful so they devote their time to bad belle

The pain is so obvious.

Apari has stooped so low that he's so proud of been ahead of a team that didn't buy a single player this season. Sebi Liverpool na him mate, why is he finding it so hard to catch up with them?

BikeMan:
The pain is so obvious.

Apari has stooped so low that he's so proud of been ahead of a team that didn't buy a single player this season. Sebi Liverpool na him mate, why is he finding it so hard to catch up with them?

Pep has won 2 league titles since he came, He has won 7 of the last 8 trophies in England

Is Chelsea not his mates? Abi why be say for the past 3 seasons na double digits a fraud dey use gap your own club

No be this season a 65M Pulisic join your team? Yet you are struggling for top 4

Why shouldn't he be proud? When he turned a club funded by Russian billion into a side attraction that are currently almost irrelevant and the only thing that bring their fans any form of joy is to troll clubs better than them