mekaprime:


Going by the above & if Sazam is regarded as semi-profitable, with a production budget of 100m, Shazam grossed 300m(3x) to be declared semi-profitable.
In the same way, BOP doesn't need 500m to be termed a success, if the estimated production budget of BOP is $97m then 97× 3= $291m is all it need to make that second tier of yours.
One misconception DandeNumeruno has which I'll tend to correct is that BOP is a low budget movie & not a high budget movie, so, what is seen as a benchmark for success for one is not the same for the other.
$500m just to be termed successful that's like 97×6, i don't think so bro, else you are expecting it to land on the first tire.
So i agree with abduleez1 on his profit & success estimation.

BIRDS OF PREY has a production budget of 84 million not 97.

i)to break even and turn a profit, you multiply the 84 with 3.5. the result >>>294 million.this means a profit of 44 million. not enough profit to finance the production budget of a sequel. the extra profit from DVD sales and streaming won't be enough.

ii) to turn a profit, you multiply 84 with 6, the result>>> 504 million. this means the studio has earned enough to finance a sequel without touching the profits from the DVD sales, streaming etc.

allow me to use KNIVES OUT to further buttress my assertions.

KNIVES OUT on a mid budget budget of 40 million broke even at 120 million, and made bank at 300 million. 40 x 6 = 240 millions. you know what this means right?

it means KNIVES OUT has outperformed. it's a resounding box office success at 300 million with only a mid production budget of 40 million.

losprince:
Nothing concern this Nollywood guy with the box office argument or anything going on in the thread for that matter.

The guy is like a bot, login, spam thread with YouTube videos, rinse and repeat.

LMAO

DandeNumeruno:


didn't know that BIRDS OF PREY was a medium budget, thanks for the correction.
but it doesn't matter. the same rule applies to both high budget and medium budget films.

What you fail to understand in mekaprime's explanation is that Birds of Prey or Shazam is essentially a low budget movie for a Superhero Movie.

In general film terms it's medium budget but Superhero genre it's different.

An average Superhero Movie budget is about $120mn at least for the past decade. Anything from $100mn down below is considered low budget. Mid budget is from $121-180mn. Then high or massive budget is from $181-250mn and above.

IngeniousLeez:


What you fail to understand in mekaprime's explanation is that Birds of Prey or Shazam is essentially a low budget movie for a Superhero Movie.

In general film terms it's medium budget but Superhero genre it's different.

An average Superhero Movie budget is about $120mn at least for the past decade. Anything from $100mn down below is considered low budget. Mid budget is from $121-180mn. Then high or massive budget is from $181-250mn and above.

let's not drag the technicality because it's not important.

what's important is the fact that 3x rules apply here.

like you yourself said, in general term, it's a medium budget.

the end.

DARK CITY(1998)...7/10

I saw this movie Brawl in Cell Block 99 and the box office is about 7,100 is that a joke or not.

Chibudollar:
I saw this movie Brawl in Cell Block 99 and the box office is about 7,100 is that a joke or not.

it's an independent production. watch it, it's very good.

IngeniousLeez and co, i have exhausted my interest in this box office discussion.

you are free to believe whatever you wanna believe, you're entitled to your opinion.

the end.

DandeNumeruno:





BIRDS OF PREY has a production budget of 84 million not 97.

i)to break even and turn a profit, you multiply the 84 with 3.5. the result >>>294 million.this means a profit of 44 million. not enough profit to finance the production budget of a sequel. the extra profit from DVD sales and streaming won't be enough.

ii) to turn a profit, you multiply 84 with 6, the result>>> 504 million. this means the studio has earned enough to finance a sequel without touching the profits from the DVD sales, streaming etc.

allow me to use KNIVES OUT to further buttress my assertions.

KNIVES OUT on a mid budget budget of 40 million broke even at 120 million, and made bank at 300 million. 40 x 6 = 240 millions. you know what this means right?

it means KNIVES OUT has outperformed. it's a resounding box office success at 300 million with only a mid production budget of 40 million.

Using another movie box office success to compare another Is a different ball game entirely as a movie's success can be different from another.
For example if a movie grosses about 10x it's budget and another make 5x its budget doesn't necessarily take away the success of the lesser successful one.
So stop comparing A to B as budgets, genre, target audience, release date/season (summer, winter,spring,autumn) cast etc. makes each one unique in it's own way. It's more or less comparing Apples to Oranges.

A movie is primarily made to make profit not start sequels. What you are saying only applies if it was meant to kickstart a franchise. Because in the first instance where do they get the money to make such films— from prequels or what??

Some movies are made not with a sequel in mind. Some movies are meant to be one-offs, so depending on the success of the film like 10x-20x it's production budget may warrant a sequel depending on the studio's ambitions or plans.
Joker was primarily meant to be a one-off no matter it's gross.

The point is : WAS IT SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.

The Green Knight official teaser trailer. This movie looks promising


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJc2tH3WBw

IngeniousLeez:


You don start with your jokes again.

Birds of Prey is not a FLOP. How would you give a movie flop status in its first weekend when it almost makes back it's movie budget in opening weekend worldwide?
Yes, disappointing. But flop, no. It still even has time to make some more money as this whole month got far weaker slate of films.

It's only competition is Sonic indirectly a family movie. If it holds up well to Sonic this weekend then it might break even or even make profit.

Birds of prey is a flop and I predicted it well.

After one week, it is resting on 85 million. Its initial budget is 84 million. I doubt it will reach 200 million after one month. Damn

Sonic is expected to run past birds of prey.

IngeniousLeez:


Using another movie box office success to compare another Is a different ball game entirely as a movie's success can be different from another.
For example if a movie grosses about 10x it's budget and another make 5x its budget doesn't necessarily take away the success of the lesser successful one.
So stop comparing A to B as budgets, genre, target audience, release date/season (summer, winter,spring,autumn) cast etc. makes each one unique in it's own way. It's more or less comparing Apples to Oranges.

A movie is primarily made to make profit not start sequels. What you are saying only applies if it was meant to kickstart a franchise. Because in the first instance where do they get the money to make such films— from prequels or what??

Some movies are made not with a sequel in mind. Some movies are meant to be one-offs, so depending on the success of the film like 10x-20x it's production budget may warrant a sequel depending on the studio's ambitions or plans.
Joker was primarily meant to be a one-off no matter it's gross.

The point is : WAS IT SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.

i want to correct this misconception of yours.

have you ever wondered why high grossing films always seems to have sequels?

read this article below and maybe you'll learn a thing or two.


https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2016/06/02/why-are-there-so-many-movie-sequels

grandstar:


The general rule is a film makes profit if it achieves revenues that are 3 times production cost. I'm sure Birds of Prey is therefore already profitable.

I've not seen it but I suspect it may become a video game which is another big source of money. What of toy figures etc?

Na so my brother.

Everybody has invented his or her own box office statistics to suit his/her own narrative.

When the general rule of thumb is very CLEAR. Make 3x your budget and you're good to go. If you make more than that SWEETER for you.

Nope it can't spun it's own gaming franchise. Highest the movie characters port to another existing Game IP. It can go to any of the franchise WB has from MK 11, Injustice, to Batman and Superman. Etc.

DandeNumeruno:


i want to correct this misconception of yours.

have you ever wondered why high grossing films always seems to have sequels?

read this article below and maybe you'll learn a thing or two.


https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2016/06/02/why-are-there-so-many-movie-sequels

You are the one misunderstanding me.

The article you posted doesn't contradict mine. Those sequels mentioned was only greenlit after the Massive success from the Original not necessarily actively planned.

Few of them were planned with sequels in mind. The majority was only greenlit cos the Original's money was too sweet to reject. Which I stated in my initial post.

If you reread my post you'll see where I said if a movie is a massive HIT a Studio can decide if it wants a sequel or not. That's also dependent on the Studio's greed or want for quick/easy money.

For example, Joker could get a Sequel cos of its massive profits not because it was planned. It was a one-off.

JeromeBlack:


Birds of prey is a flop and I predicted it well.

After one week, it is resting on 85 million. Its initial budget is 84 million. I doubt it will reach 200 million after one month. Damn

Sonic is expected to run past birds of prey.

Yea we'll see at the end.

IngeniousLeez:


You are the one misunderstanding me.

The article you posted doesn't contradict mine. Those sequels mentioned was only greenlit after the Massive success from the Original not necessarily actively planned.

Few of them were planned with sequels in mind. The majority was only greenlit cos the Original's money was too sweet to reject. Which I stated in my initial post.

If you reread my post you'll see where I said if a movie is a massive HIT a Studio can decide if it wants a sequel or not. That's also dependent on the Studio's greed or want for quick/easy money.

For example, Joker could get a Sequel cos of its massive profits not because it was planned. It was a one-off.

and this is what i wrote this morning...

a high budget movie must at the very least turn enough profit to fully finance a POTENTIAL sequel without having to borrow from the warchest. anything lest than that and the studio will be running a loss rather than a gain.

note the emphasis on "potential".

it means a studio primary aim aim is to turn out a huge profit that can finance a sequel if need be, although a sequel is not a guarantee.

the truth is every medium to high budget film aims to make enough profit just so they can have the luxury to have options.

a high grossing film has a higher chance of making a sequel than a low grossing film.

DandeNumeruno:


and this is what i wrote this morning...

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note the emphasis on "potential".

it means a studio primary aim aim is to turn out a huge profit that can finance a sequel if need be, although a sequel is not a guarantee.

the truth is every medium to high budget film aims to make enough profit just so they can have the luxury to have options.

a high grossing film has a higher chance of making a sequel than a low grossing film.

True, let's agree to disagree.

See wetin Birds of Prey cos, for 2 whole days na box office calculations and permutations, like say na how Naija go take qualify for World Cup. Lol

The argument was very Educative all the same. Thanks for engaging. Also special thanks to @mekaprime KoiceReloaded urahara and the others.

FYI na abduleez1 dey talk Sha.

IngeniousLeez:


True, let's agree to disagree.

See wetin Birds of Prey cos, for 2 whole days na box office calculations and permutations, like say na how Naija go take qualify for World Cup. Lol

The argument was very Educative all the same. Thanks for engaging. Also special thanks to @mekaprime KoiceReloaded urahara and the others.

FYI na abduleez1 dey talk Sha.

troll

Are you guys done?

AVENGEMENT(2019)...7.5/10

bloody and brutal, just what the doctor ordered. scott adkins rulez.

Jumanji:The Next Level is out for download HDrip.

No 50 shades parody this val?

seankafor:
No 50 shades parody this val?

parody?

Take a guess who they are going to blame if BOP eventually bombs

Who else has witnessed the annoyingly snail pace of netnaija's download servers? This year speed has been very slow compared to last year.

The slow speed ehn na die. This week I just dey fume all through. Delaying my sleep time, delaying download time and ultimately wasting my precious time.

Abeg who get him contact to pls tell him to increase his site's bandwidth. The snail speed is too slow even for peak periods.

IngeniousLeez:
Who else has witnessed the annoyingly snail pace of netnaija's download servers? This year speed has been very slow compared to last year.

The slow speed ehn na die. This week I just dey fume all through. Delaying my sleep time, delaying download time and ultimately wasting my precious time.

Abeg who get him contact to pls tell him to increase his site's bandwidth. The snail speed is too slow even for peak periods.

if you own a laptop, activate your phone's wifi hotspot and tether it to your computer. then use your computer to download your videos. it's an easy way of speeding up a slow server.

if you don't own a laptop then install idm+ on your phone and use it to do your downloads. unlike opera mini it is specifically designed for downloading purposes. it can even download streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvVTXee-nM

Ishilove have you seen Kee?

Froshloaded:
Ishilove have you seen Kee?

No I haven't. What's the synopsis (sans spoilers)?

Ishilove:

No I haven't. What's the synopsis (sans spoilers)?

Crime/Sci-Fi
Its an Indian movie tho, but you will love it, you can get it from netnaija...
Read the plot here.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kee_(film)

oyaskii:
me.

. The only issue i had was Renée Zellweger as best actress for "Judy"? I will have to see that properly to judge..

She totally killed her role.
When the nominations came out, I went to look for the movie and from the 1st scene she featured in, I knew she was going to win.
The Oscar voters love impersonations. It was Rami Malek all over again.