CAPdan21:
Lol at all this bias arguments...everyone knows modern football has moved on from early and mid 2000s where long balls and one vs one duels were d norm...now most big teams have a very high possession ratio so don't get attacked very much...compare Liverpool possession rates to man utd of that era you'll get the point..a more accurate pointer to their respective ability is yo show the successful rates for each of the metric you're comparing VVD to the other defenders..abi is it not the same vidic that torres always used to rub ground whenever he met him??..about is dere anoda one

So this Liverpool team had more possession than Barcelona of 2007-2009? Go and check Puyol Tackles and Interception.....
Man city of Last season had more possession than Liverpool of last season,... Man city style is Tiki-Taka (possession based football) Liverpool style is High pressing....

Is it not this same VVD that can't mark Rashford.....
Go and watch Vidic and Drogba classic battles...... If this VVD near Drogba, he will retire .....

U saw the statistics, others do the dirty work for him,.... The only Statistics he had was Clean Sheet and Goals conceedeed which is 70% because of the Goal keeper ( Alisson) ......

U guys will say VVD made Alisson great,... But this same VVD can't help Karius...

airmark:


I was talking about players under Ole, that didnt reach their peaks.

Lukaku was under him and it was like a knife offered to an handicapped. Martial may play better than what he is serving now. Bissaka may be doing more than grass-cutting under Conte. Lingard may return to his best, making afrodoc2 to rub it on your faces, if he is under the Italian. Rashford may reach Mbape's level, after getting drilled by a non-smoking Antonio. Pogba may return to his Juve form, if he plays under the no-nonsense Godfather.

Ole is the virus.

Every new coach now feels he must buy load of players before he can succeed.it wasn't so in d past.what do I know...maybe dats modern coaching.

CAPdan21:
Lol at all this bias arguments...everyone knows modern football has moved on from early and mid 2000s where long balls and one vs one duels were d norm...now most big teams have a very high possession ratio so don't get attacked very much...compare Liverpool possession rates to man utd of that era you'll get the point..a more accurate pointer to their respective ability is yo show the successful rates for each of the metric you're comparing VVD to the other defenders..abi is it not the same vidic that torres always used to rub ground whenever he met him??..about is dere anoda one

That's just what makes me laugh. Comparing different defenders from different teams setup using the same metric.

odizeey:

That's just what makes me laugh. Comparing different defenders from different teams setup using the same metric.

l just tire bro.how u dey?

Ronaldo leave wing go dey strike. Dey wait inside box. Nobody cause am o.

If you no get sense for this life you go suffer. You feel say na to dey carry head pan make you dey hardworking ABI?

odizeey:

That's just what makes me laugh. Comparing different defenders from different teams setup using the same metric.

If they wanna choose the best graduating student in University....... They compare student from different department, doing different courses, different set-up using the same metrics........

engrelvis:
l just tire bro.how u dey?

Engr sir. I dey fine o. You?

Expert17:


So this Liverpool team had more possession than Barcelona of 2007-2009? Go and check Puyol Tackles and Interception.....
Man city of Last season had more possession than Liverpool of last season,... Man city style is Tiki-Taka (possession based football) Liverpool style is High pressing....

Is it not this same VVD that can't mark Rashford.....
Go and watch Vidic and Drogba classic battles...... If this VVD near Drogba, he will retire .....

U saw the statistics, others do the dirty work for him,.... The only Statistics he had was Clean Sheet and Goals conceedeed which is 70% because of the Goal keeper ( Alisson) ......

U guys will say VVD made Alisson great,... But this same VVD can't help Karius...

What about how Eto'o disgraced him at the 09 final?

Expert17:


If they wanna choose the best graduating student in University....... They compare student from different department, doing different courses, different set-up using the same metrics........

That's why education system cast. Uniben did not produce law first class for yearrrrsssssss. But make banking and finance first class go engage them in intellectual battle na.

This is football. Soon you guys will say Robertson and Arnold are waste at defence.

I'm not saying the guy is better than vidic but bro he is not overhyped. He is a leader. You can even see his influence in Netherlands. Free the man to enjoy his glory. Ejô

kendrick93:
What about how Eto'o disgraced him at the 09 final?

What abt how Martial turn him inside out, until he had injury @ Southampton....

If I wanna start calling Names of forwards dat disgraced VVD at Celtic, Southampton and Liverpool... I won't finish

odizeey:

That's why education system cast. Uniben did not produce law first class for yearrrrsssssss. But make banking and finance first class go engage them in intellectual battle na.

This is football. Soon you guys will say Robertson and Arnold are waste at defence.

I'm not saying the guy is better than vidic but bro he is not overhyped. He is a leader. You can even see his influence in Netherlands. Free the man to enjoy his glory. Ejô

True

odizeey:

Engr sir. I dey fine o. You?

am good bro.try n call me

Expert17:


So this Liverpool team had more possession than Barcelona of 2007-2009? Go and check Puyol Tackles and Interception.....
Man city of Last season had more possession than Liverpool of last season,... Man city style is Tiki-Taka (possession based football) Liverpool style is High pressing....

Is it not this same VVD that can't mark Rashford.....
Go and watch Vidic and Drogba classic battles...... If this VVD near Drogba, he will retire .....

U saw the statistics, others do the dirty work for him,.... The only Statistics he had was Clean Sheet and Goals conceedeed which is 70% because of the Goal keeper ( Alisson) ......

U guys will say VVD made Alisson great,... But this same VVD can't help Karius...

Good God, wetin person no go read for here...Tufiakwa!

odizeey:

That's why education system cast. Uniben did not produce law first class for yearrrrsssssss. But make banking and finance first class go engage them in intellectual battle na.

This is football. Soon you guys will say Robertson and Arnold are waste at defence.

I'm not saying the guy is better than vidic but bro he is not overhyped. He is a leader. You can even see his influence in Netherlands. Free the man to enjoy his glory. Ejô

Exactly.comparing players of old n now is nt fair.Many factors come into play.

Expert17:


What abt how Martial turn him inside out, until he had injury @ Southampton....

If I wanna start calling Names of forwards dat disgraced VVD at Celtic, Southampton and Liverpool... I won't finish

you really can't....
Anyone who still doubts the quality of Van djik isn't shouldn't be talking about football... seriously

kendrick93:
you really can't....
Anyone who still doubts the quality of Van djik isn't shouldn't be talking about football... seriously

That dude is just impossible. In a post up there, he agreed with someone who said VVD isn't overhyped and is actually the best or one of the best CB right now but he still keeps on arguing with others.

nitrogen:
2018/2019 season, maybe VVD was the best defender in England, but not in Europe. I will pick De Ligt, Matthijs.

What did you smoke yesterday?

engrelvis:
Exactly.comparing players of old n now is nt fair.Many factors come into play.

At all.

Just read it somewhere that Manchester United might be handed the 2017/2018 premier League title because of the UEFA ban to man city, that they might also face points deduction from the premier League.

larride:


What did you smoke yesterday?

The 20 year old was better than VVD in the UCL Na, go check the stats. I believe that most football sites gave him higher ratings in 18/19 UCL season, he also made it to the UEFA team of the year.

Back to your question, I didn't smoke anything.

nitrogen:


In the UCL, De Ligt faced Bayern,

Ajax collected 4 goals.

nitrogen:


In the UCL, De Ligt faced Bayern, Real Madrid,

Ajax collected 3 goals

nitrogen:


In the UCL, De Ligt faced Bayern, Real Madrid, Juventus and Tottenham, tell me the clubs VVD faced in UCL.

Ajax collected 2 goals

nitrogen:


In the UCL, De Ligt faced Bayern, Real Madrid, Juventus and Tottenham, tell me the clubs VVD faced in UCL.

Ajax collected 3 goals.

Dont let me bring gifs.

When you have Virgil van Dijk – the giant – on the pitch, maybe it scares the opposition. For me, he is special. I have great defenders [in front of me] – Joël [Matip], Joe Gomez, Dejan [Lovren]. Everyone did a great job this season. But Virgil has something special, he is the big man."
Alisson Becker, Liverpool goalkeeper

"When you see him walk out onto the pitch, you know within yourself that the attacker has got no chance against him. Virgil has basically played every minute of every game and I don't think he's put in a performance of less than 8/10, which is frightening."
Gianluigi Buffon, Juventus goalkeeper

airmark:


I was talking about players under Ole, that didnt reach their peaks.

Lukaku was under him and it was like a knife offered to an handicapped. Martial may play better than what he is serving now. Bissaka may be doing more than grass-cutting under Conte. Lingard may return to his best, making afrodoc2 to rub it on your faces, if he is under the Italian. Rashford may reach Mbape's level, after getting drilled by a non-smoking Antonio. Pogba may return to his Juve form, if he plays under the no-nonsense Godfather.

Ole is the virus.

Lukaku’s goal/game ratio under OGS wasn’t terrible, the lad allowed the negativity and criticism to get to him and couldn’t trap simple balls.

And did you say Lingard? LMAO

May be your head is not correct.

Leyqute:


Did you say Lingard? Okay.

May be your head is not correct.

Afrodoc2 knows i was spot on, he will need to check your head.

kendrick93:
you really can't....
Anyone who still doubts the quality of Van djik isn't shouldn't be talking about football... seriously

Maybe comparing Players is not allowed again......

I compared UEFA player of the year / EPL player of the year which is Van dirk with people that didn't even near there..... U guys are shivering all over the place.........

As far football is still on..... Comparison can't stop.... World Best, Uefa best, league best, player of the century, etc is done by comparison ...

And I didn't say Van Dirk is not the best center back presently....

patrickmuf:
Good God, wetin person no go read for here...Tufiakwa!

I can proof this with Rashford goals and assist against Liverpool....

So no need for all dis

patrickmuf:
Good God, wetin person no go read for here...Tufiakwa!

He is one of you guys, he is even an expert.

airmark:


Afrodoc2 knows i was spot on, he will need to check your head.

You would know, you reside in the citadel

nitrogen:


The 20 year old was better than VVD in the UCL Na, go check the stats. I believe that most football sites gave him higher ratings in 18/19 UCL season, he also made it to the UEFA team of the year.

Back to your question, I didn't smoke anything.

I agree VVD is overhyped sometimes but he was the best CB last season hands down.

airmark:


He is one of you guys, he is even an expert.

I notice dat Morata is Ath.madrid highest goal scorer in La liga with 7 goals....... He's really flopping

Leyqute:


You would know, you reside in the citadel

I always read how you tried to defend Ole and i laughed. You have a better squad than both Chelsea and Leicester, yet you are shying away from first 4 as if entering it, is a crime.

Replace your Ole with Conte and you will see players upping their games.

Expert17:




I notice dat Morata is Ath.madrid highest goal scorer in La liga with 7 goals....... He's really flopping

With Costa out since, Morata's 7 goals in 20 matches is very impressive.

airmark:


I always read how you tried to defend Ole and i laughed. You have a better squad than both Chelsea and Leicester, yet you are shying away from first 4 as if entering it, is a crime.

Replace your Ole with Conte and you will see players upping their games.

LooL. I’m not trying to defend Ole. Ole is swimming In waters deeper than his height but the problem extends past the manager. That’s been my point.

Replacing Ole with someone else whilst parading this same set of players and infrastructure won’t change anything much. Believe me.

Our squad is shiite. Medical and physio department is crap.

Pogba hasn’t played in like 4 or 5 months. McTom has been out for like 2 months. Rashford is also out now. Martial is, well, Martial. James is a clueless speedster. Mata is older, Perreira === Lingard. LB is in shambles, should I go on?

Better squad ko, better squad ni.

It’s a multifaceted problem. That’s the koko.