forgiveness:


More than your feet and toes

Just give us a number..

U said "most" Nigerians who played in the league have flopped....
How many of them have played there ?

TheSuperNerd:
On Odey, you are only repeating what I already said. Odey haven't done what Awo have done in Belgium. That's what I said.



On Osimhen in Germany. We all know he battled Injuries in Germany. Not the same case with Awo in same Germany. Awo is fit and is not just being given chances to play. He hasn't been given a run of games to show his stuff.
That said... Osimhen just didn't have it good in Germany bcoz even the little chances he had, he was played out of position several times and not given a proper run of games. The injuries too didn't help.

Osimhen was injury free from the start till almost the end of 17/18 season and he was given little chances.

Danielnino00:


Just give us a number..

U said "most" Nigerians who played in the league have flopped....
How many of them have played there ?

you can count by yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_Bundesliga_players#Nigeria

andrewbaba44:


But they are still not much there jare

Put Ighalo in the bundesliga and watch him get 15 goals at worst

They were much.

forgiveness:


Osimhen was injury free from the start till almost the end of 17/18 season and he was given little chances.

Do these below look like Big and suitable enough Chances to you? Does it show he had a fine run of games? And weren't injuries part of his problems? And wasn't he played out of position a couple of times?

forgiveness:


The point remains that when Henry left Juve he shined and when Osimhen left Bundesliga, he started shinning. We should wait for Awoniyi to move away from the same Bundesliga Osimhen failed to shined before we can say he is overrated.

That was years ago and Taiwo has gone through alot of droughts already in his career so I don't know why you have to drag Victor into it.

TheSuperNerd:


Do these below look like Big and suitable enough Chances to you? Does it show he had a fine run of games? And weren't injuries part of his problems? And wasn't he played out of position a couple of times?

What is not suitable about the chance? Injury? No way. As you can see from your snapshot, he was free from injury from the beginning of the season till almost the end. What stopped him from playing and shinning during those period he was available to play?

forgiveness:



They were much.

Oya give me 10 names

BascoVanVeli:


That was years ago and Taiwo has gone through alot of droughts already in his career so I don't know why you have to drag Victor into it.

The same way Osimhen went through droughts in the Bundesliga?

andrewbaba44:


Barcelona no get sense

The best signing should be Ángel Rodriguez and not that stupid guy

EOD

andrewbaba44:


Oya give me 10 names

seeam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_Bundesliga_players#Nigeria

It is clear that Osimhen was being integrated into European football as a mere 18year old. So you were expecting them to rush him in that quickly right? Is that what you were expecting? From a young African 18year old youngster still growing into his first pro contract?

Oga, that and coupled with later injuries and earlier injuries he had suffered and still coming out of, saw his chances limited big time.

In Awo's case, he is no 18 year old newbie to European Football. He has been around for a while and still struggling. Dude is fit and sound and I can just say that he is not being given the chances to play bcoz he doesn't seem to have the trust of the manager. Awo ought to leave that place and play under one who trusts him.

forgiveness:


What is not suitable about the chance? Injury? No way. As you can see from your snapshot, he was free from injury from the beginning of the season till almost the end. What stopped him from playing and shinning during those period he was available to play?

forgiveness:


The same way Osimhen went through droughts in the Bundesliga?

You call this drought abi?

forgiveness:


The same way Osimhen went through droughts in the Bundesliga?

That was Victor's first season. This is Awoniyi's 5th. There is a huge difference.

TheSuperNerd:
It is clear that Osimhen was being integrated into European football as a mere 18year old. So you were expecting them to rush him in that quickly right? Is that what you were expecting? From a young African 18year old youngster still growing into his first pro contract?

Oga, that and coupled with later injuries and earlier injuries he had suffered and still coming out of, saw his chances limited big time.

In Awo's case, he is no 18 year old newbie to European Football. He has been around for a while and still struggling. Dude is fit and sound and I can just say that he is not being given the chances to play bcoz he doesn't seem to have the trust of the manager. Awo ought to leave that place and play under one who trusts him.

Osimhen was 19 going to 20 in 17/18 season and he was not injured untill the end of the season. True or false?

forgiveness:


What has Osimhen done in senior football apart from what he is doing in Ligue 1?

What has Odey done in senior football? Enlighten me.

is what Osimhen is doing in Ligue1, not enough to consider him better than Awoniyi?

Even in the age grade football both of them played, Osimhen is still better than Awoniyi. There Is no level of football so far, that Awoniyi can be compared to Osimhen.

Time still dey sha, he may still best Osimhen, maybe he will a better coach

BascoVanVeli:



That was Victor's first season. This is Awoniyi's 5th. There is a huge difference.

IT doesn"t change the fact that he struggled in the Bundesliga.

safarigirl:
is what Osimhen is doing in Ligue1, not enough to consider him better than Awoniyi?

Even in the age grade football both of them played, Osimhen is still better than Awoniyi. There Is no level of football so far, that Awoniyi can be compared to Osimhen.

Time still dey sha, he may still best Osimhen, maybe he will a better coach

Guys abeg I’m confused.

Is Amokachi replacing Bewarang as Technical Director or is he replacing Ahmed Yusuf as Head of the Technical Committee?

TheSuperNerd:


You call this drought abi?

Yes! He went through drought in 17/18 season in the Bundesliga.

forgiveness:


IT doesn"t change the fact that he struggled in the Bundesliga.

Did I argue that with you?

safarigirl:
is what Osimhen is doing in Ligue1, not enough to consider him better than Awoniyi?

Even in the age grade football both of them played, Osimhen is still better than Awoniyi. There Is no level of football so far, that Awoniyi can be compared to Osimhen.

Time still dey sha, he may still best Osimhen, maybe he will a better coach

Good analysis from you

But osimhen is better

Yes we should not write awoniyi off yet

safarigirl:
is what Osimhen is doing in Ligue1, not enough to consider him better than Awoniyi?

Even in the age grade football both of them played, Osimhen is still better than Awoniyi. There Is no level of football so far, that Awoniyi can be compared to Osimhen.

Time still dey sha, he may still best Osimhen, maybe he will a better coach

It is better you have a better understanding of the topic before commenting on the discussion.

BascoVanVeli:



Did I argue that with you?

Why the ado since I made it clear from the beginning?

A blatant red missed by var

That was 2016/2017 by the way. Injuries stayed glued to that boy all season until he started showing some recovery that got him on the bench a couple of times in the following season.

And in 2017/2018 being the following season... He wasn't given enough chances, played out of position in some of the few chances he got and also had fitness issues. He was 18 and beginning life in Europe. Why is that hard to understand?

forgiveness:


Yes! He went through drought in 17/18 season in the Bundesliga.

False. Osimhen was 18 at the beginning of 2017/2018 season and clocked 19 in the middle of the season in December 2017. By the end of 2017/2018, he was still 19 and very much far from 20.

And his injury palava didn't wait till season's end. The pics I dropped clearly showed that. He battled it from the 2016/2017 campaign before he recovered and fell back into it later on in the course of the 2017/2018 season.

forgiveness:


Osimhen was 19 going to 20 in 17/18 season and he was not injured untill the end of the season. True or false?

AIG07:

Good news... Where is Truidstar? The Bobo must be smiling somewhere.

Yep bro. We saw this since 2018. Thanks.

forgiveness:


Why the ado since I made it clear from the beginning?

I made myself clear too. Your analogy makes no sense.

TheSuperNerd:

That was 2016/2017 by the way. Injuries stayed glued to that boy all season until he started showing some recovery that got him on the bench a couple of times in the following season.

And in 2017/2018 being the following season... He wasn't given enough chances, played out of position in some of the few chances he got and also had fitness issues. He was 18 and beginning life in Europe. Why is that hard to understand?

Actually, Divock Origi was Osimhens problem. Liverpool was paying 100% of his wages. His loan agreement was he was to play 95% of Wolfsburg matches as long as he is fit. Even if he is in form or not. Osimhen scored a lot of goals in training and friendly matches. The coach then said when asked then that he cannot field Osimhen due to the loan situation agreement he met as regards a player.

Chelsea vs Manchester. The var person should be arrested

BascoVanVeli:



I made myself clear too. Your analogy makes no sense.

How does yours make sense too?