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Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Uchek(m): 10:21am On Feb 18, 2020 |
Why are you wasting your precious time and energy engaging this fellow who is first and foremost e-rat? whether you hate Ojukwu or Biafra is irrelevant. Today's Nigeria is the best judgement on who was on the side of truth in the Nigeria-Biafra War. TeleboiZ005: |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by gidgiddy: 10:32am On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Ojukwu seceded because Gowon failed to implement the Aburi agreement they both signed, not because of the pogrom 2 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by wirinet(m): 11:00am On Feb 18, 2020 |
DMerciful:This your Biafra is the most conflicting and confusing concept in the whole of humanity. You guys created a Biafra and fought a war for it because igbos were being killed in the north, but you insist it's not an Igbo agenda. Igbos alleged marginalisation in Nigeria especially national politics, and so want out of Nigeria. But wants the ijaws, who are at a better political advantage and resource sharing advantage to go with them. The igbos are angry at Nigeria but want to co-opt other tribes who are not so angry. |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Area4Area: 11:41am On Feb 18, 2020 |
gidgiddy:You are partly right, Ojukwu seceded because of several reasons. ........Gowon failing to implement the Aburi accord as you rightly said, The ongoing pogrom in the north and the failure of the FG to stop it, Dissolution of the former Eastern region into East Central, South Eastern and Rivers states. It was after the dissolution of the region that Ojukwu declared Biafra because he felt he's lost control over the other two new states. I still blame him for the inadequate preparation, no real allies and not surrendering early enough when it was obvious that he was fighting over a small enclave already surrounded by Nigeria and getting smaller by the day |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by gidgiddy: 12:22pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
One thing Im happy about is that Gowon lived long enough to see the "one Nigeria" he fought for become a total disaster 3 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Malawian(m): 1:05pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Area4Area:Stop this rubbish on Nairaland. We both know each other very well. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Yujin(m): 1:59pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Area4Area:Be brave and state your ethnic group when commenting on such sensitive topics. The 'you guys' I was responding to are those people who hate the truth as regards the Biafran war and the activities surrounding it. You are included even if you're from the SE or SS. Since when was it said that after a coup, a whole tribe should be murdered in their thousands? Biafra was as a result of those killings. More bloody coups happened but there wasn't any attacks on the ethnic groups of perpetrators. Why killing Igbo civilians in their thousands? Till date, no one has apologised for that. We know that prior to the coup there has been hatred of the Igbos. I only blame Igbo politicians and leaders of those days who thought they could manage the relationship and these other people will eventually forgo the hate. The hate remains till date hence our eagerness to re-establish Biafra. We're now use to the hate but know how to respond better. Ojukwu really tried his best. He made some mistakes but I won't ever blame him. The odds against Biafra was too much. If the war wasn't fought, the domination would have been worst than it is today. This is what the few Igbos who think they're too clever don't know. Gowon wouldn't have lasted 4yrs as the head of state because Murtala would have struck earlier. Murtala was just like Buhari. Yoruba land was effectively dominated without the shooting of a gun. The Igboland wasn't going to fall just that easily. The Niger Delta stood no chance. All southerners would have been called cowards for not standing up to the north. This the Igbos did to cover the shame but all we could get is insults from fellow Southerners. Did Ojukwu not submit to Brigadier General Ogundipe? Did the northerners accord the same man respect? You all know the truth but because it concerns Igbos, you hide it. Nemesis is catching up with everyone now. T.Y Danjuma is running up and down at present seeking for alliance to challenge the beast that Ojukwu stood up against. Anyone who thinks Igbos only are endangered in Nigeria is clearly blind. As a matter of fact, Igbos stand the highest chance of surviving anything destruction that befalls Nigeria. We've permutated all the likely fallouts of warfare in Nigeria to arrive at that conclusion. I'll stop here to go attend to some things. Your people have formed Amotekun as a survival strategy yet the same beast are battling against it. Instead for you to strategize more on how to secure a survival of your people and land, it is Biafra that worries you. Ndo! I sorry for you. If you insist on standing in the way of Biafra, she will swallow you. Be warned! 5 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 3:31pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
gidgiddy: That's an even worse reason to secede. I don't even know why Gowon agreed to meet Ojukwu in Aburi for anything. He was the military ruler of Nigeria. What he said was LAW, under the terms of military rule. It was just Gowon being his normal gentleman self. He had no reason to meet Ojukwu, his subordinate, to discuss anything. As soon as he created those 12 states, Ojukwu should have backed down and returned to his state house in Enugu to continue his duties like other military governors, not looking to secede and fight war with an army of 3,000 soldiers armed with toy guns and cutlasses. Rubbish. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by gidgiddy: 7:18pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Thats not how things worked in Regional times. Back then, the Regions were even more powerful than the central government. Gowon had become military ruler but the Eastern Region did not recognize him as head of state. What people dont seem to understand is that the Regionalism practiced then made it impossible for any Region or even the federal government, from dominating another Region. The reason is that the Regions were large and they practiced fiscal federalism. In other words, the regions had resource control and payed for the federal government to exist. Unlike what obtains now that the Federal government control everything and pay for states to exist. Another problem Gowon had was that, of the 4 Regional military Governors of the time, Adebayo, Ejoor, Ojukwu and Katsina, only Katsina was junior to Gowon. The other 3 were senior to Gowon. Gowon had become head of state and the Eastern Region did not recognize him and there nothing he could do about it. So Gowon had bo choice but meet Ojukwu in Ghana, or carry on being unrecognised by the Eastern Region Thats why Gowon and his Northern cohorts had to remove Regionalism and fiscal federalism, they both stood in the way of the North talking over Nigeria So on the 27th of May 1967, Gowon issued decree 14 which abolished the 4 Regions, replaced them with 12 unitary states, alloted 6 of those states to the North, siezed all resources so that it was now the federal government paying the states. Ojukwu and the Eastern Region were not about to sit down and be enslaved in such a blatant way so Ojukwu declared the independence of the Eastern Region 3 days later and the rest is history Its just human nature that people will fight subjugation 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Nowenuse: 7:28pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Yujin: Thank you very much for this post. Leave all the Hausa fulani and Yoruba muslims to continue spewing rubbish here. They will soon start drinking poison out of the shock they will be getting soon. Very evil group of people. You can imagine what they are coming up with. What in the hell is the essence of this post? 4 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Nowenuse: 7:31pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Why are you crying over the loss of the Igbos? You are not an Igbo person, neither are you from the Middlebelt (where the bulk of the Nigerian soldiers who fought that war were from)... So what is your pain or stress in all of this? People like TY Danjuma have come out in shame to denounce their roles in the civil war and here you are bragging about the same war. Are you sure you are sane? 2 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by wirinet(m): 9:41pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
gidgiddy:What do you mean by Eastern Region did not recognize Gowon as head of state? Who was the eastern region that did not recognise Gowon as head of State? If the eastern region recognised General Ironsi as head of State, how come they did not recognise Gowon as head of State? You should have said Lt.Col Ojukwu did not recognise Gowon as his commander in chief. So who did the east recognise as the head of State? -Ojukwu? In all successful coups the leader automatically becomes the head of state. Sergeants have become head of state after a successful could. Any officer that refuses to recognise the new head of state is mandated to retire. Who appointed the 4 Regional governors? The former head of state of course. What happens if Gowon removes and reappoint the 4 Regional governors. Except you tell me that the 4 Regional governors are independent of the command structure of the army and they are already independent. The January 1966 coup and July counter coup really messed things up. The aftermath and the war itself was just political struggles between senior officers of the military. The civilians including politicians were held hostage by the military. Even the so called Aburi Accord was power sharing agreement between the military. The politicians were practically left out. 2 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 10:28pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Nowenuse: You are a nasty, stupid, illiterate vagabond to purport to know where I am from or not from, while having absolutely no clue who I am. Are you a clairvoyant? Bush village dunce with mosquito brain. If you cannot debate an issue without getting personal with ad hominem attacks and claiming to know what you don't know, then GET LOST FROM HERE. 3 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 10:39pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
wirinet: Thanks for this response. I was also about to tell him that it was Ojukwu, the military governor, who refused to recognise Gowon, not the Eastern region. The conflict partly arose from this personality clash between Ojukwu and Gowon, in which Ojukwu did not believe Gowon should be head of state. We often forget that these were just young guys in their early 30s, not sufficiently mature to take on the huge leadership responsibilities they assumed. |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 10:41pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Anybody who wrote the bolded crap should have no IQ in his\her stream of thought. Nigeria is indeed basket of fools. At least, Ojukwu worked with consultative body of the elders from eastern region before the proclamation of Biafra. Elder's group did Gowon before assuming power as the head of state and which body did Gowon when announced that Nigeria has been divided into 12 states? Such action was termed a major constitutional change. Only foolish Colonel such as Gowon will wake up in the morning and proclaim Nigeria has been divided into 12 states when a section of the country did not recognize his usurpation of the position of Head of State. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 10:45pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: The bolded showed you are truly ill-educated. You are a typical Nigerian who makes the most noise on a subject matter he/she knows little about. |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 10:50pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: You cannot substitute educated debate with ad hominem attacks. If you cannot address that statement I made with a relevant countervailing argument, kindly get lost. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 10:55pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: Who did Nzeogwu consult before he went round murdering elected leaders of the country in cold blood? Shooting them dead in their homes? You do realise that that was what precipitated the whole crisis? 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by gidgiddy: 10:57pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
wirinet: Why do you think Gowon met Ojukwu in Ghana if he could just fire Ojukwu and replace him with a loyalist? He couldn't because nobody would have listened to him in the East. Regionalism seriously curtails the powers of an executive President. During Ironsi's tenure, the North did not really recognise Ironsi as head of state. But there was one thing Ironsi had which Gowon did not have, he had seniority. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 10:58pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: The idiotic statement you made has no bases to be granted relevancy. Did you really understand intrigue of mutiny and counter mutiny? 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:02pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: You sound like a drunken, semi-literate soldier. I guess that was how Nzeogwu sounded when he went around shooting elected leaders in their homes. |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:06pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Again, you have to understand the fine line between military parlance and civility. Coup is part and parcel of military parlance. It is even noted but not encouraged. Nzeogwu did not have to consult anybody to precipitate a coup but should be soldier enough to withstand countermeasures. Gowon was not even a soldier enough to admit he participated in the coup of July 29, 1966. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:06pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
In all my years, I've still never heard a cogently explained reason WHY Nzeogwu and friends committed those atrocitites in shooting those leaders. What exactly did Tafawa Balewa do to deserve murder? Or Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto? Or Akintola? Or Festus Okotie-Eboh? I've never heard any explanation that made sense. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:09pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: I guess semi-literate soldier could have debated more intelligently than you have done. It is very clear you have never seen a parade ground in your freaking life. |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:14pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: Are you this low in cluelessness? Muhammadu Buhari was one of the reasons that spurred the coup of January 15, 1966. Tafawa Balewa's nepotistic tendencies to have dunces such as Muhammadu Buhari commissioned into Nigerian army stood like a shinning star. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:14pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: What has ''parade ground'' got to do with this intellectual debate? No wonder Fela called you guys ZOMBIE. No working brain. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:17pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: You must be excessively drunk on stupidity to call these craps you vomited on this forum as an intellectual debate. What a jerk. 2 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:20pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: You don't like an elected leader's appointments, so your solution is to shoot him?? Zombie o, zombie (zombie o, zombie) Tell am to go straight A joro, jara, joro No break, no job, no sense A joro, jara, joro.. - Fela Kuti. Thanks for displaying your LOW IQ military reasoning here. No wonder we ended up in civil war. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:23pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: It is jackasses such as you who tend to fan the embers of useless soldier such as Gowon end up in a war. 2 Likes |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:24pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: I can see you have less than a secondary school education. You sound very much like a school dropout. Even your diction betrays you. I suggest you enrol in college. Right now, you're like a wild animal. I'm done with you. We are on very different levels. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Dedetwo(m): 11:29pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Rossippi: I shall bet my last cent you do not even know the composites of corruption. If you did, the silly question about Nzeogwu and January 15, 1966 coup should not have been asked. 1 Like |
Re: Yakubu Gowon Was The True Hero Of The Civil War by Rossippi: 11:43pm On Feb 18, 2020 |
Dedetwo: Sure. Igbo leaders were angels from heaven. None of them stole a penny. It was only Hausas and Yorubas that were corrupt. Which was why the coupists left Igbo leaders untouched. And since when did the penalty for alleged corruption become storming the accused's home and shooting him dead without trial? Animal in human skin. 1 Like |
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