Just30:
there were CPP, UP and UGCC
all legal parties that participated in presidential and parliamentary elections.

Too bad they never got a chance to try the election thing during the one party reign of the dictator. You know what would have happened if the one party state lasted

Just30:
shut up ZOMBIE
you have the least idea what is happening in DRC, you dont even know what is happening in your own country.

There are no Russian and American militias in the DRC. Stop spewing rubbish.

Just30:
he is still an elected official

Nah. Back then voters only picked the president. The president then chose a VP and could fire him at will and choose a new one over lunch time bulletin. In Ghana, Nkrumah used to fire ministers before dawn, so guys used to wake to find themselves no longer ministers

TayserMahrii:


Ghana became the first one party state in Africa in 1964 with Nkrumah declaring himself president for life, thats why he was overthrown the next year for the madness he was espousing. Democracy only entered Ghana after he was ejected. Nkrumah was Marxist socialist from reading or listening to his speeches. He kept mentioning the poor citizens, known as the 'proletariat' in marxism and dreaming of building a utopian state by concentrating resources in the hands of govt to build sprawling industries overnight.

Again another lie

Nkrumah never declared himself president for life

The opposition started calling him president for life because,in his first three election, he won by 90% and their fortunes kept declining hence they became desperate.
and went to all lent just to get him out of the way.

Nkrumah was overthrown by the CIA and not by the people.

Nkrumah was not Marxist and he kept mentioning the people because all his policies were people centred
what is politics if it is not meant to improve the lives of the people.

So as you can see, Ghana did not just start being people-centred today.
This is why we've built a better society.
It was done through the opposition as they sort to break the ranks of the military.

Democracy died in Ghana after Nkrumah was overthrown.

AS we can all see today, Nkrumah was right and those economics models are the best.

China has made it work, Nkrumah made it work, Norway made it work, Russia made it work The US made it work, and those sprawling industries made Ghana a great economy then.

TayserMahrii:


Too bad they never got a chance to try the election thing during the one party reign of the dictator. You know what would have happened if the one party state lasted

Ghana at no point was a one party state

we are not Kenya

the opposition could not find favour with the people because of their policies of enriching themselves which the people hated.

gallivant:


There are no Russian and American militias in the DRC. Stop spewing rubbish.

see this child


do you know who the WAGNER GROUP is ?

do you know what Blackwater is ?

TayserMahrii:


Nah. Back then voters only picked the president. The president then chose a VP and could fire him at will and choose a new one over lunch time bulletin. In Ghana, Nkrumah used to fire ministers before dawn, so guys used to wake to find themselves no longer ministers

the president choose his VP before the election
hence they are both voted for though only the president shows on the voting slip

in Ghana, the constitution gives the president the right to appoint ministers which will have to be vetted by parliament and he can fire them at any time.

Just30:
see this child


do you know who the WAGNER GROUP is ?

do you know what Blackwater is ?

They are marcenaries. They are not in the DRC though.

gallivant:


They are marcenaries. They are not in the DRC though.

Blackwater runs a mining firm in DRC
Wagner protects a mining company as contracted to do , as well as train the DRC army.

Go and learn

Blackwater is even operating in Kenya

Just30:
Blackwater runs a mining firm in DRC
Wagner protects a mining company as contracted to do , as well as train the DRC army.

Go and learn

You are nuts. Where did you get such information? Any links?

you can get them from Wikileaks


https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/companies/2019-06-17-founder-of-private-security-firm-blackwater-expands-operations-in-drc/

https://www.globalpolicy.org/pmscs/51061-contractors-to-the-congo.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/russias-military-deal-congo-republic-african-transversal/5678751

gallivant:


You are nuts. Where did you get such information? Any links?

Just30:
you can get them from Wikileaks


https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/companies/2019-06-17-founder-of-private-security-firm-blackwater-expands-operations-in-drc/

https://www.globalpolicy.org/pmscs/51061-contractors-to-the-congo.html

Where does it say Blackwater militia has commenced operations in the DRC?

gallivant:


Where does it say Blackwater militia has commenced operations in the DRC?

go an read kiddo

Just30:
Again another lie

Nkrumah never declared himself president for life

The opposition started calling him president for life because,in his first three election, he won by 90% and their fortunes kept declining hence they became desperate.
and went to all lent just to get him out of the way.

Nkrumah was overthrown by the CIA and not by the people.

Nkrumah was not Marxist and he kept mentioning the people because all his policies were people centred
what is politics if it is not meant to improve the lives of the people.

So as you can see, Ghana did not just start being people-centred today.
This is why we've built a better society.
It was done through the opposition as they sort to break the ranks of the military.

Democracy died in Ghana after Nkrumah was overthrown.

AS we can all see today, Nkrumah was right and those economics models are the best.

China has made it work, Nkrumah made it work, Norway made it work, Russia made it work The US made it work, and those sprawling industries made Ghana a great economy then.

Nkrumah was the antithesis of democracy. Have you read or heard any of his speeches on the topic? And on socialism vs capitalism?
Here are a few:

"A one-party system of government is an effective and safe instrument only when it operates in a socialist society. In other words, it must be a political expression of the will of the masses working for the ultimate good and welfare of the people as a whole. On the other hand, a one-party system of government in a neo-colonial client state, subject to external pressures and control, can quickly develop into the most dangerous form of tyranny, despotism, and oppression. It can become, in the hands of a few privileged rascally-minded and selfish individuals in a neo-colonialist state, a weapon and a tool for suppressing the legitimate aspirations of the people in the interest of foreign powers, and their agents. I repeat that a one-party state can only function for the good of the people within the framework of a socialist state or in a developing state with a socialist programme. The government governs through the people, and not through the class cleavages and interests. In other words, the basis of government is the will of the people."

"Every form of political power, whether parliamentary, multi-party, one-party, or an open military dictatorship, reflects the interest of a certain class or classes in society. In a socialist state, the government represents the workers and peasants. In a capitalist state, the government represents the exploitative class. The state then, is the expression of the domination of one class over other classes."

Nkrumah was marxist socialist thats why the CIA went to great lengths to have him kicked out because he wasnt preaching democracy and was in bed with communists. Its also why he was rendezvousing in communist Vietcong when his ass was overthrown.

Also, there is no comparison between Ghana and China slowpoke. China has been a one party state all through, a tag you have been laboring to disassociate from Ghana in this discussion. You have to stick to your narrative bro.

Just30:
Ghana at no point was a one party state

we are not Kenya

the opposition could not find favour with the people because of their policies of enriching themselves which the people hated.

Arrghh dude. If you cant accept a simple fact like that what then can you accept. I have shared even a screenshot showing the date Ghana became a one party state.

Just30:
the president choose his VP before the election
hence they are both voted for though only the president shows on the voting slip

in Ghana, the constitution gives the president the right to appoint ministers which will have to be vetted by parliament and he can fire them at any time.

What are you talking about ? We were talking of VP Moi with Daniela. All the posts you have been responding to have been about him (Moi). You actually took over the convo between me an Daniela.

you are really dumb




How can you read that and think Nkrumah was not democratic ?
Define democracy and see.

TayserMahrii:


Nkrumah was the antithesis of democracy. Have you read or heard any of his speeches on the topic? And on socialism vs capitalism?
Here are a few:





Nkrumah was by all definitions a marxist socialist thats why the CIA went to great lengths to have him gone because he wasnt preaching democracy and was in bed with communists. Its also why he was rendezvousing in communist Vietcong when his ass was overthrown.

Also, there is no comparison between Ghana and China slowpoke. China has been a one party state all through, a tag you have been laboring to erase from Ghana in this small discussion. You have to choose a narrative and stick to it bro.

the CIA hated him because he stood against all the evils of the US around the world.

Nkrumah was more democratic than even the US president then.

again no one compared Ghana and China but you are too slow and dumb not to grasps it.
I only showed to the number one economic model that has worked for everyone all throughout the ages which Nkrumah followed.

Ghana has never been associated with a one-party state, Een those who sort to propagate and coined those stuffs never succeeded in making it stick.

What makes you think you will

TayserMahrii:



Arrghh dude. If you cant accept a simple fact like that what then can you accept. I have shared even a screenshot showing the date Ghana became a one party state.

Can you help yourself by defining a one-party state?

TayserMahrii:


What are you talking about ? We were talking of VP Moi with Daniela. All the posts you have been responding to have been about him (Moi). You actually took over the convo between me an Daniela.

im responding to your earliear post that the president choose his VP

get your head out of alcohol so that you can concentrate on a convo

Just30:
you are really dumb




How can you read that and think Nkrumah was not democratic ?
Define democracy and see.

the CIA hated him because he stood against all the evils of the US around the world.

Nkrumah was more democratic than even the US president then.

again no one compared Ghana and China but you are too slow and dumb not to grasps it.
I only showed to the number one economic model that has worked for everyone all throughout the ages which Nkrumah followed.

Ghana has never been associated with a one-party state, Een those who sort to propagate and coined those stuffs never succeeded in making it stick.

What makes you think you will

hmmm dude! I will continue to shower you with Nkrumah's Marxist manifesto.

"A people's parliamentary democracy, with a one-party system, is better able to express and satisfy the common aspirations of a nation as a whole, than a multi-party parliamentary system, which is in fact only a ruse for perpetuating and covering up the inherent struggle between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots'."
According to Nkrumah, the multi-party system is divisive and a newly independent state needs the energy and enthusiasm of all the people to move forward in all aspects of development.

The man was opposed to capitalism and was therefore a socialist marxist (ofcourse, he gave it all manner of names to hoodwink Uncle Sam).

"We, in Africa, will evolve forms of government, rather different from the traditional Western pattern, but no less democratic in their protection of the individual and his inalienable rights."

Here he was dreaming of sth similar to Ujamaa in Tanzania. Socially okay but economically a catastrophe. Macroecon was also another of his famous Achilles heel.

Just30:
Can you help yourself by defining a one-party state?

A one party state is what happened in Ghana on 1st of February 1964

Just30:
im responding to your earliear post that the president choose his VP

get your head out of alcohol so that you can concentrate on a convo

Follow that thread n see where I said to Daniela "As VP he was handpicked by the president."

You took over from him and told me "he is still an elected official" as if I had asked you

Prior to that I was talking about Moi's 11 yrs as VP, and I wasn't discussing it with you.

You just got obsessed with me n start quoting me everything

Danielnino00:


That fool is spilling rubbish.. DRC has never at anytime been a big player in Africa.. I don't see how they will rise up now ..
Even Ethiopia is bigger than DRC...

Before the tyranny of Mobutu sesseko Drc was one of the most developed countries in Africa

Danielnino00:


It's like u are suffering from myopia... Reae the screenshot well again..

And don't be a puss* .. do the same calculations I did for Nigeria and Lagos Economy..
Let's see where Kenya will be without Nairobi..

Stop diverting
Gives a breakdown of your industry and service sectors
Your economy is based on oil
Kenya's economy is around 100 billion dollars
Nairobi GDP around 40 billion dollars

gallivant:


Yar Adua's corpse ruled Nigeria from a Saudi morgue for months. Moi would have been a divine saint in Nigeria.

What's this zombie saying ?
Goodluck Jonathan stepped up as acting president all the time Yar'Adua was sick...

Kenya with its so called mature democracy had a dictator rule them for 24 years ..

When Uhuru leaves office,his children will take over the affairs of the country.... And the cycle continues

tylann:


Stop diverting
Gives a breakdown of your industry and service sectors
Your economy is based on oil
Kenya's economy is around 100 billion dollars
Nairobi GDP around 40 billion dollars

U are suffering from myopia,so it's pointless sending you the same pic again when u can't read..

So,if we take Nairobi's 40b economy out of Kenya's 100b economy,Kenya will be left with just 60b.. . That places you outside the top10 economy in Africa

TayserMahri: