Yaribanzaonic:
Of all the posts so far...yours is most disappointing. I hope you haven't been infected by Covid-19. It's just shameful that we share Nationhood with rejects like una. Spits!!!

Chai.

Lipscomb:
Continue fooling yourself. A so called retailer claiming CEO.

chai jealously wont allow u to believe... hahaha igbos are far far better than d yorubas and northerners put together both in talent, ideas, endurance, economic development etc

adekolaelect:
But the yardstick was rolled out in the write up !!!! It may even worst than the past simply because the type of leaders and Noise followers you are in the region presently .Not coordinating,no Game changing strategies ,making too much noise without meaningful action,you can trade anything with money ,your present leaders are not closer to the followers like the past, most of you is more exposed in business to the extent you don't pay any more attention to the development of your region economically, If it is granted other regions will benefit you with your business ideas better than your region because you can't stop migrating to other region to do businesses which will be a revenue generating and development for the host regions .You can only build a gigantic duplex structures in your villages as you are doing presently which can not add any Economical Sustainability to your region .

Can you name the fundamentals a society would need to head in a direction of development?

Yes I can see that .no wonder you can't staying your region. Southwest is like Dubai to them.

Tflesk:

chai jealously wont allow u to believe... hahaha igbos are far far better than d yorubas and northerners put together both in talent, ideas, endurance, economic development etc

Godons1:


This not Onitcha market where almost everybody is an illiterate. When you want to quote figures, show links to back up your claims. If you don't have any proof, go and argue with your Brothers in Onitcha market.

The East does not contribute antyping to the Economy.
Quote me anywhere.

Lols Eyaaa i feel ya pains.., pele o
you can go do d findings urself

Tflesk:

chai jealously wont allow u to believe... hahaha igbos are far far better than d yorubas and northerners put together both in talent, ideas, endurance, economic development etc

Where did you get this statistics from?
But all the information available shows that the reverse is the case.

the greatest wealth of all time is human resources and the East have it in abundance ndanc author=myobjective post=87066976]

This is what I tell easterners eyeing the hydrocarbons of minority groups shouting about restructuring or Biafra. The question is what does the east possess or contribute to the centre now to warrant such hubris from them.

The reality is the east should be the last region to shout or demand restructuring.[/quote]

myobjective:


This is what I tell easterners eyeing the hydrocarbons of minority groups shouting about restructuring or Biafra. The question is what does the east possess or contribute to the centre now to warrant such hubris from them.

The reality is the east should be the last region to shout or demand restructuring.

God bless you.
You are a patriot and you understand these guys clearly. They are bunch of noice makers, who think that, the Niger Deltans will handover their oils to them when restructuring comes.

Lipscomb:
Yes I can see that .no wonder you can't staying your region. Southwest is like Dubai to them.

HAHAHA you dont expect pple wt similar ideas and talent to stay in one place, we need spread to have enough space to expand... and besides ur so called magacity (lagos) is a no mans-land cus everybody contributed in it deuelopment...

Your grammar is enough reason to kill the south east.

mauriceju2:
the greatest wealth of all time is human resources and the East have it in abundance ndanc [quote author=myobjective post=87066976]

This is what I tell easterners eyeing the hydrocarbons of minority groups shouting about restructuring or Biafra. The question is what does the east possess or contribute to the centre now to warrant such hubris from them.

The reality is the east should be the last region to shout or demand restructuring.

@myobjectives how do u expect them to contribute more to the economy when theyre hated and not regarded as anything in the country... it just like this saying "monkey dey work bamboo dey chop..."
AND I ASK
WHAT ARE THE NORTH CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMY APART FROM SPONSORING TERRORIST Answer me

SLAP44:
See panic by outsiders to stop a moving train. If only shame will allow you mention your state and region, I have enough time to teach you some lessons in history today.

Feel free to learn.

What do you expect from a buhari supporter if not this kind of trash.
Buhari supporters are not naturally wise johnmartus is a typical example of what am saying.
Igbos what biafra and this one is talking about restructuring this goes a long way in proving me right in my earlier stance.

JONNYSPUTE:
When a mad man doesn't know he's mad,this is what you get.

Exactly!

Tflesk:

they're so numerous... if i start listing them this page wont contain it...
The mighty iphinix, tecno and itel is owned by an igbo man... and 75% of nigerians are using his product dat alone is boostin d telecommunication sector

myobjective:

Where did you get this statistics from? But all the information available shows that the reverse is the case.

HAHAHA EYAA UR JEOLOUSY BIG PASS U...

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NGpatriot:


Aguiyi-Ironsi the then ibo head of state who was supposed to punish the sadistic blood thirsty ibo coup plotters and killers did not punish them and to make matters worse, he abolished REGIONAL administration that separated all the regions in Nigeria.


He abolished federalism and replaced it with a unitary system of government with decree 34 of 1966. The decree abolished the regions and unified the federal and regional government aka Unitary aka On Nigeria.

Aguiyi-Ironsi, the ibo head of state joined us all together because he wanted one Nigeria so now you have one Nigeria, ENJOY the one Nigeria and stop crying.

You've made your bed, now have a good night sleep on it.

And the hole gets even deeper!

I think part of your problem is that you've been fed on a strict diet of hatred towrds Igbos right from your childhood days as an almajiri! It shows in the bigoted rubbish you post in the name of having an argument! There's no deviating from the script with you: it's all about 'Ibo' coup....Ironsi abolished regions and didn't punish the coupists.....blame Ironsi and Zik for what Nigeria is facing today......etc! You've somehow got it into your diseased, hate-filled pea-brain that, but for the 'nyamurees/Ibos', your 'one Nigeria' would have by now been El-Dorado and well on its way to attaining Uhuru!

What do you understand a military regime to be? So in your daft reasoning, you reckon there could be a military regime at the centre competing with the regions....with all the powers bestowed on them in the first republic? You never heard that with the military there's a distinct command and control structure that culminates at the top with the chief of army staff who takes orders directly from the head of state? A dispassionate appraisal of the Ironsi unification decree would show it was promulgated by the military strictly for governance purposes, and had nothing to do with Ironsi wanting Igbos to control everything as you lot would like us to believe. In any case, when the unification decree was promulgated, it did not abolish regional gov'ts as you suggest...the regions were still in existence up until when Gowon took the saddle and abolished them to create the 12 state structure. With the return to democracy in 1979, the useless 1979 constitution (and subsequent ones that were to follow) was unitary in all but name. One then wonders why you hypocritical lot have never bothered to correct the 'unforgivable wrong' of Ironsis' military regime, but rather have elected to continue with the same unitary system of gov't you blame him for! Two-faced hypocrisy at its basest form!

You say Ironsi joined us all together because he wanted 'one Nigeria'! You see how deceptive, slippery and shameless you are? You rail against Ironsis' actions (an easy scapegoat for you when your support of the status-quo is challenged.....just blurt out 'but Ironsi started it' and the heat is deflected on to the 'nyamurees')....you rail against his actions in promulgating the unification decree, yet turn around and say the 'one Nigeria' you accuse him of instituting should be retained! Dude, you're confused as well as shameless!

You need to change your moniker to FULANIpatriot because that's what Nigeria means to you leeching liabilities: it's the interest of Islam and the Fulani first, and then whatever little interest remains, you can give it to Nigeria! The reason you want 'one Nigeria' to continue is not because of some noble ideals like fairness, togetherness, love for ones fellow compatriots, equity, and such 'piffle'.....no, you want 'one Nigeria' to continue because it's you meal-ticket, your ATM, and a means to lord it over others! You're what you are today based mainly on the sweat, resources and entrepreneurial ingenuity of others, and if you had a shred of self-respect left in you, you would hang your head in shame!

SLAP44:
At no time in history has the south east not been self reliant, and prosperous.

But you forefathers have been migrating to other regions to be prosperous, even before independence. If the south east was so prosperous, why we're many checking out?

Our parents and forefathers has never recorded draught, diseases or poverty. We were blessed from the inception of the world and we still retain the blessings.

So why did you guys never recorded a prosperous or strong kingdom like Songhai, Oyo or Benin kingdoms. Benin kingdom even incorporated some of your lands up to Onitsha.

SLAP44:
The south east doesn't need natural resources to develop and thrive.

The quality of the human resources in the south east can rival that of any country in the world. That's where our strength lies.

How has the quality of human resources helped your communities and states? How is the quality of human resources different from any other region or tribe of the south?
We need to start seeing the results of that strength, not only mouth on social media.

Tflesk:

they're so numerous... if i start listing them this page wont contain it...
The mighty iphinix, tecno and itel is owned by an igbo man... and 75% of nigerians are using his product dat alone is boostin d telecommunication sector

75% of nigerians use infinix, tecno and itel phones? That means only 25% of the over 180 million phones lines in Nigerians use Samsung, apple, and chinco brand phones?

mrvitalis:
You hate Igbo's so much u don't want them to rule Nigeria but u don't want to restructure Nigeria because u don't want Igbo's to suffer ?

We have zero resources ,we would suffer ...pls Yoruba's would enjoy n Igbo's would beg them for food ...so pls tell Yoruba's to push for restructuring

I'm telling you bro these yorubas turn logic upside down

You see the big error we made in 2015?

Actually, no region can survive restructuring, except the South South, and even the South South itself would run into trobule in a few years.

In my opinion, what is driving the cry for restructuring is two ideas

1.The North (usually defined as the Hausas...even though at least 50% of the North isn't Hausa) is eating Southern money

2.Under regionalism, we lived much better.

First, regions were not better than what we have today. The fact is, most people in all the regions lived in rural areas. And the spending was disproprtionately on the small educated class with the idea that they would develop Nigeria....and since it is the educated class that writes the story...that's why you hear many of them chanting 'Things were better'. Things were not better....and infact things would get worse if we had kept the regions.

Second...agriculture in Nigeria is largely subsistence. If we restructure into regions, or break up, the amount we produce agriculture wise would be too low to support one state , talk-less of one region. In a country where less than 10% of the farmers are practicing large scale mechanzed farming....the money generated won't be enough to support everyone.

Third,the biggest business in Nigeria is importing stuff and reselling. Infact the reason why many Easterners want restructuring is because they think that the oil money will sustain their business. Well, while I don't oppose anyone agitating for his interest...the truth is that under such a system, we would run out of forex in months...and be forced to take loans to sustain ourselves (because oil is on a downward trend)

Fourth, anyone telling me that the regions are going to use their human resources to devlop is on a long thing. Nigerians like welfare...which is why the North does not want to be free of oil from the South...and why some Easterners want Biafra and restructuring...because they think alike. In Nigeria...we see raw materials as an unlimited source of income to be shared...and that in our mind constitutes development. That is not development...development is using your limited resources to be productive.

In my opinion, Nigerians should forget restructuring, and instead force themselves to become a nation where every state is producing stuff for the global market....industrialization. It is because the road to industrial development is long and hard, and Nigerians want ready made, that they are chanting restructuring. Meanwhile, North, and South are non-producing entities...

Until every state in Nigeria is a producer, not a parasite...then we can talk restructuring. Because if we restructure now...we would be fighting resource wars within 10 years. And you won't like it.

And no, I am not speaking for the North. As far as I am concerned, the North needs this message of mine the most. They need to invest in education and industrial development urgently..especially as Boko Haram has shown them how neglect of their youth has led to problems.

As for the South East....you guys cannot have Biafra without changing your economic structure. Like the North, you need to invest in industrial and educational development, and make industries the center of your economy. Otherwise, Biafra would be a broke nation taking loans like Nigeria...because the main business is importing and selling stuff...stressing the forex savings.

Same for the South West. You will suffer under restructuring too. If you don't reduce your oil dependency.

XANDERBOY85:


You say Ironsi joined us all together because he wanted 'one Nigeria'!

A unitary government is a form of government where all powers, ie, to make laws; to implement laws; and to adjudicate laws are in the hands of one and only one Central Government.


https://www.quora.com/What-is-unitary-government

This is the definition of UNITY because you obviously don't know the meaning of the implication of what your ibo forefathers created.

Unitary = One Nigeria with power in the center, what we have today that ibo people don't like and don't want was created by the same ibo people,.

Zik from the beginning joined and did boy boy for the North for unity and one Nigeria, and your next ibo forefather followed in his footsteps to issues his own decree to make sure that we follow one Nigeria with power in the center because he thought he was going to sit in the center with ibo people calling the shot, but evil people don't reap good results from their evil actions.

This is the bed you made so sleep gently on top of it and stop making noise, we don't want to hear your cry baby noise.

Back stabbers at work again.
Hmm Yoruba...

Gnaeusmagnus:
Actually, no region can survive restructuring, except the South South, and even the South South itself would run into trobule in a few years.

In my opinion, what is driving the cry for restructuring is two ideas

1.The North (usually defined as the Hausas...even though at least 50% of the North isn't Hausa) is eating Southern money

2.Under regionalism, we lived much better.

First, regions were not better than what we have today. The fact is, most people in all the regions lived in rural areas. And the spending was disproprtionately on the small educated class with the idea that they would develop Nigeria....and since it is the educated class that writes the story...that's why you hear many of them chanting 'Things were better'. Things were not better....and infact things would get worse if we had kept the regions.

Second...agriculture in Nigeria is largely subsistence. If we restructure into regions, or break up, the amount we produce agriculture wise would be too low to support one state , talk-less of one region. In a country where less than 10% of the farmers are practicing large scale mechanzed farming....the money generated won't be enough to support everyone.

Third,the biggest business in Nigeria is importing stuff and reselling. Infact the reason why many Easterners want restructuring is because they think that the oil money will sustain their business. Well, while I don't oppose anyone agitating for his interest...the truth is that under such a system, we would run out of forex in months...and be forced to take loans to sustain ourselves (because oil is on a downward trend)

Fourth, anyone telling me that the regions are going to use their human resources to devlop is on a long thing. Nigerians like welfare...which is why the North does not want to be free of oil from the South...and why some Easterners want Biafra and restructuring...because they think alike. In Nigeria...we see raw materials as an unlimited source of income to be shared...and that in our mind constitutes development. That is not development...development is using your limited resources to be productive.

In my opinion, Nigerians should forget restructuring, and instead force themselves to become a nation where every state is producing stuff for the global market....industrialization. It is because the road to industrial development is long and hard, and Nigerians want ready made, that they are chanting restructuring. Meanwhile, North, and South are non-producing entities...

Until every state in Nigeria is a producer, not a parasite...then we can talk restructuring. Because if we restructure now...we would be fighting resource wars within 10 years. And you won't like it.

And no, I am not speaking for the North. As far as I am concerned, the North needs this message of mine the most. They need to invest in education and industrial development urgently..especially as Boko Haram has shown them how neglect of their youth has led to problems.

As for the South East....you guys cannot have Biafra without changing your economic structure. Like the North, you need to invest in industrial and educational development, and make industries the center of your economy. Otherwise, Biafra would be a broke nation taking loans like Nigeria...because the main business is importing and selling stuff...stressing the forex savings.

Same for the South West. You will suffer under restructuring too. If you don't reduce your oil dependency.

You have summed up what I have been saying all these years, restructuring is a meaningless term. In fact it's another euphemism for getting more money out of crude of the Niger Delta. The three major ethnic groups igbo, Yoruba and hausa fulani are jostling for a greater share of the oil money.
I assume you are from a minority tribe and not from the big three, because the big three tribes don't think beyond terms that is ultimately about controlling and sharing Niger delta oil resources.

The only road to development is through a concise development plan, which starts with proper education, research, infrastructure and long term goals. That's how Japan developed less than 20 years after being completely devastated in a war, that's how China became an economic giant in 30 years.

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NGpatriot:




This is the definition of UNITY because you obviously don't know the meaning of the implication of what your ibo forefathers created.

Unitary = One Nigeria with power in the center, what we have today that ibo people don't like and don't want was created by the same ibo people,.

Zik from the beginning joined and did boy boy for the North for unity and one Nigeria, and your next ibo forefather followed in his footsteps to issues his own decree to make sure that we follow one Nigeria with power in the center because he thought he was going to sit in the center with ibo people calling the shot, but evil people don't reap good results from their evil actions.

This is the bed you made so sleep gently on top of it and stop making noise, we don't want to hear your cry baby noise.

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johnmartus:
Southeast have been champion the campaign for restructuring Nigeria to Regional system of government. But I keep asking myself if southeast would survive the regional system of government in this present generation.
My reason for saying this could trace back to 1950 to 1960 where the same pattern was operated then. During regional system of government in the southeast ,we have enough evidence that the system wasn't work for them.

When Nnamdi Azikiwe knew that the system wasn't work for them he came to southwest but instead of Azikiwe to learn how Awolowo operating the system that working for his region. Azikiwe sermons Awolowo political enemies to frustrate Awolowo leadership.

Another reason why igbo should stop talking about restructuring . Southeast have no resources to finance regional government.

Also the southeast contributions to federal government is very low compare to what south-south and southwest contributing.

Again many igbo will still not willing to return back to their home state.

Another reason during the regional system of government southeast didn't achieve anything but other regions are flourishing. That is why Aguiyi ironsi introduced unitary system of government. Every government pursues economic development by trying to achieve macroeconomic objectives in a particular system of government.

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This is primary 1 level propaganda and reasoning until Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and co tried to save the Western Region by overthrowing the government in 1966, the Eastern Region was the fastest growing administrative entity in the world.

Today the South East in spite of this useless, demonic states system that Gowon introduced is the lowest in crime, lowest poverty rates etc.

You are a dullard!

johnmartus:
Southeast have been champion the campaign for restructuring Nigeria to Regional system of government. But I keep asking myself if southeast would survive the regional system of government in this present generation.
My reason for saying this could trace back to 1950 to 1960 where the same pattern was operated then. During regional system of government in the southeast ,we have enough evidence that the system wasn't work for them.

When Nnamdi Azikiwe knew that the system wasn't work for them he came to southwest but instead of Azikiwe to learn how Awolowo operating the system that working for his region. Azikiwe sermons Awolowo political enemies to frustrate Awolowo leadership.

Another reason why igbo should stop talking about restructuring . Southeast have no resources to finance regional government.

Also the southeast contributions to federal government is very low compare to what south-south and southwest contributing.

Again many igbo will still not willing to return back to their home state.

Another reason during the regional system of government southeast didn't achieve anything but other regions are flourishing. That is why Aguiyi ironsi introduced unitary system of government. Every government pursues economic development by trying to achieve macroeconomic objectives in a particular system of government.

johnmartus:
Southeast have been champion the campaign for restructuring Nigeria to Regional system of government. But I keep asking myself if southeast would survive the regional system of government in this present generation.
My reason for saying this could trace back to 1950 to 1960 where the same pattern was operated then. During regional system of government in the southeast ,we have enough evidence that the system wasn't work for them.

When Nnamdi Azikiwe knew that the system wasn't work for them he came to southwest but instead of Azikiwe to learn how Awolowo [/b]operating the system that working for his region. Azikiwe sermons Awolowo political enemies to frustrate Awolowo leadership.
[b]
Another reason why igbo should stop talking about restructuring . Southeast have no resources to finance regional government.

Also the southeast contributions to federal government is very low compare to what south-south and southwest contributing.

Again many igbo will still not willing to return back to their home state.

Another reason during the regional system of government southeast didn't achieve anything but other regions are flourishing. That is why Aguiyi ironsi introduced unitary system of government. Every government pursues economic development by trying to achieve macroeconomic objectives in a particular system of government.

Let's get into the details of your crappy post

1. The Eastern Region was a thriving zone that saw rapid development and initiative that endures until today. Dr Okpara created Obudu cattle ranch, Trans-Amadi industrial layout and others too numerous to mention. The Federal Mortgage Bank was an Eastern Region agency until Gowon took over and made it the useless drain pipe on our resources it has become.

2. Go and look at the IGR of civil service states like Enugu state before you spew this rubbish

3. Ironsi unified the civil service. He did not abolish the regions. Get some knowledge before you come online to display a total lack of knowledge

Donelli:

Can you name the fundamentals a society would need to head in a direction of development?

Enabling environment for the ease of doing businesses for both indigenes and none indigenes ,Security, Natural Resources and human development .but natural resource can not do it without those mention above and human managerial nature of Leaders and the citizens of the region.The region in question is not good in term of accommodating other regions and religions .the citizens of the region are migrators in nature which will to neglect of the region.Low revenues,lack of productive development will set in .