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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 3:12pm On Mar 01, 2020
when I came out here to tell the Kenyans Ghanaian South Africans and all other people that Nigeria is totally finished. my Nigerian people were calling me a liar fake news this and that. but you can never bury the truth here is a message from a former Nigerian president that the country is in total collapse a must-read for everybody..

Don’t allow restructuring agitation lead to war, Obasanjo tells Buhari

Former President Olusegun Obasanjo has said the present government needs to heed the agitations of those clamouring for restructuring before such agitations develop into self-determination.

Speaking in Lagos on Saturday at the first memorial lecture organised in honour of the founder of the Oodua People’s Congress, Dr Fredrick Fasehun, the former President advised the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) to heed the call now before it would be too late.

He said Nigeria could not afford to be plunged into another war because the nation might not survive the second civil war.

Obasanjo, who said insecurity was a major concern in Nigeria, commended the South-West governors for establishing the Western Nigeria Security Network popularly known as Operation Amotekun.

He particularly commended Oyo State Governor Seyi Makinde “for his leadership on this matter and for sharing their thinking with me.”

The former President said no section of the country should think it would be easy to quell any other region that might want to secede if the agitation for restructuring was not addressed.

He stated that the agitation while he was in office was for true federalism but now it had changed to restructuring.

He said, “President Goodluck Jonathan’s effort of a National Conference did not even get to the National Assembly. Today, the agitation has moved up to restructuring. Thanks to Buhari’s administration and its impunity and all. With the fractional political division, poor management of the economy, the non-protecting security and the politics of uncertainty in the land, we should not allow restructuring agitation to degenerate to self-determination.

“There is still a window of opportunity for us to nip in the bud a possible and indeed likely agitation for self determination that will be violent, destructive and all-empowering. We have descended to lack of civility bordering on uncivilisation, indignity, mutual disrespect and crudity in the language of our debate, dialogue, discourse, address, comments and remarks across tribe, section, religion, region, ethnicity and community.

If not halted, it will degenerate and poison the atmosphere to the tipping point or point of no return.”

Obasanjo, who played an active part in the Nigerian Civil War, said the military then planned that it would crush the Biafran soldiers between three and six months. He, however, said Nigeria almost lost to Biafra but managed to defeat the agitators after 36 months.

He said, “And before we descend any further, let me warn, from experience, those who are beating the drums of war and domination from all quarters. I joined late Bisalla, under General Hassan Katsina, to write the appreciation and the operational instruction for the (Nigerian) Civil War.

“We estimated that Federal Government would suppress the Biafran rebellion within three months. To make allowances for the unforeseen, we allowed six months. But it took us 30 months, five times what we allowed for, and what is more, we nearly lost the war. And as a field commander at the end of the war, I can attest that we fought with all Nigerian tribes, including Igbos against Biafra.”

He said the National Assembly appeared to be aware of the lurking danger and wanted to be proactive but he said the constitution did not give them the power to write a new constitution but to amend the existing one.

“What is required is a new constitution to meet the agitation and aspiration of all Nigerians and to allay all fears. The executive and the legislature need to work together to establish a Constituent Assembly.

He continued, “And if after over 10 years of fighting Boko Haram, the terrorist group is still waxing strong, let nobody out of self-delusion think that a war of self-determination by one or more geopolitical zones of Nigeria with the present disenchantment would be easily suppressed by the rest of what may remain of the country.

“Some will fight to the last drop of the blood of their group rather than suffer the indignity of slavery, oppression, domination and atrocious injustice in the land of their birth and the only one that they can call their country.

“If Boko Haram can get an outside support, any geo-political zone opting for self-determination may equally get an external support. War may not necessarily go as planned, estimated and predicted. “Everything must, therefore, be put in place to avoid a war, the end of which no one can precisely predict.

“There is no assurance that Nigeria can survive a second civil war. But rather, we should seek political solution and avoid a destructive civil war.

“This is the situation today. Let us put our experiences to work and fashion out a political order and arrangement that will strengthen our togetherness while making room for healthy and useful competition within the one entity, Nigeria.

“We need not go the way of Yugoslavia or Sudan and certainly not the way of Rwanda and Somalia. But none of these countries knew the avoidable and divisive end from the beginning. Let us learn from the experience of others and of our founding fathers who resolved their political differences through dialogue and debate without resorting to violence and separation but accommodation, telling themselves hard truth, tolerance and give-and-take spirit. That was the foundation of Nigeria at independence and let it continue to be.

“If all we are interested in is power and not holding the country together harmoniously and wholesomely, we may hold the mirage of power and lose the nation or the country bequeathed to us by our founding fathers.

“Today, we can still collectively debate, dialogue and lead our country to where, by consensus, we will want it to be as a united, strong, harmonious, dynamic, fast developing, productive, fast growing and progressing nation with sufficient leeway for autonomous development and management by component units on the basis of healthy competition, mutual respect, caring and sharing for one another, within one nation and one destiny, with shared values, common goals and venerated diversity.

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“There are still people of goodwill who can speak up and speak out and take effective and positive actions individually and collectively that will corporately save the country from rudderlessness and disintegration. We must allow a stitch in time to save nine, so that we are not pushed to the realm of the unknown and which may be for all of us, undesirable.”

The National Publicity Secretary of the Arewa Consultative Forum, Anthony Sani, who spoke before Obasanjo, said although there was no harm in restructuring, he said he did not believe the time was ripe for restructuring now.

He said, “While I do not oppose restructuring, the problem might not be restructuring and I am not sure that restructuring, at a time when there is so much distrust, will be the solution.”

The new President of OPC, Prince Osibote, expressed worry about the insecurity in the nation.

Osibote said, “We are saddened by the state of insecurity in the land. The challenge is exacerbated by unbridled poverty, illiteracy and ignorance coupled with lack of vision and character by a section of the Nigerian political class.

“We frittered away ample opportunities that came our way to consolidate on our strength, human capacities and natural endowments.

“We unambiguously denounce the spilling of blood in the land, banditry, abduction, and other forms of heinous crimes that have almost made life miserable in some parts of the country.”

One of the children of the late OPC founder, Olubunmi, appreciated those present at the ceremony.

He said, “I want to appreciate you all for coming to honour our late father. We now know that you loved our father when he was alive. “

Among those present at the lecture were former Osun State Governor, Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola; Oyewole Fasawe; the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, who was represented by the Asoya of Isoya, Oba Muraina Adebanjo; the President of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, John Nwodo who was represented by the Lagos State Chairman, Chief Solomon Ogbonna.


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 3:14pm On Mar 01, 2020
Even former president Obasanjo knows that Nigeria is totally finished under president buhari
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:16pm On Mar 01, 2020
theenchanter:
these things don't move a person like me..... since i know what all these things mean. Its first n foremost about d currency of a nation. $3 per day and extreme poverty at $1.9 per day.

Now let me give u a piece of education u may never get in kenya. Our currency, converted to dollar won't make an average Nigerian spend up to $3 in a day, even $1.9 is still much for d average Nigerian to spend.... and I mean, spending with comfortability.

Reason why countries like china, Japan and even Egypt have their own national poverty rate cos following W.B rate won't work for them.

A country like Egypt, for example with same class of currency like Nigeria ( weak against d $ but strong in reality ) set its own poverty rate at $1.45 per day and extreme poverty at less than $1, yet they still record over 30% of poverty rate when they don't use $3 per day like Nigeria.

A dumb country like kenya with currency fair against d $ but weak in reality will easily pass that benchmark cos a litre of coke in kenya is already around $1 when its sells at $0.47 in Nigeria.

U can use poverty rate to sting others, not me.... i'm too sophisticated for that.

Dude, your ignorance is sucking..., if you're smart enough you wouldn't even have mentioned the likes of Egypt and so ... You should first ask yourself why Egypt is not lagging behind in terms of poverty, there is something called global multidimensional poverty index that conducts their survey basing of a certain key factors including education, electricity Access, food , shelter e.t.c and then they will do their analysis using the global threshold(poverty line) the global poverty line is around 1.9$ per day. Basing on such indicators they will now draw the conclusion about the real poverty nations. I agree that every country has its own set of poverty line but when it comes to global measurement, you guys are still undisputed world poverty capital
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:23pm On Mar 01, 2020
Hello kagiso....a.k.a austine

You never told me you had a YouTube account...or don't you want subscribers.. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:26pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
[s]Dude, your ignorance is sucking..., if you're smart enough you wouldn't even have mentioned the likes of Egypt and so ... You should first ask yourself why Egypt is not lagging behind in terms of poverty, there is something called global multidimensional poverty index that conducts their survey basing of a certain key factors including education, electricity Access, food , shelter e.t.c and then they will do their analysis using the global threshold(poverty line) the global poverty line is around 1.9$ per day. Basing on such indicators they will now draw the conclusion about the real poverty nations. I agree that every country has its own set of poverty line but when it comes to global measurement, you guys are still undisputed world poverty capital[/s]


You sound intellectually dumb..and my guess is that you do t know ...
You just keep disgracing yourself intellectually..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:29pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:



Do we spend dollars...the facts that we have more car per capita users than you guys amongst so many factors should tell you that you are way damn poorer than us......

Your $2 education won't let you understand fact...
Bro, cheesy how do you expect a country with almost four times our population to have less cars per capita? grin don't reason like an illiterate slowpoke. If we go by your idea ( per capita car owning) then we'll have to be fair enough and do a simple estimate maths, take our 47m and divide it with yours. Use the number you will get to divide with your per capita car owning,.. huge population should not be your bragging right., that is a disgrace grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:31pm On Mar 01, 2020
Lol Nakuru wishes day and night to look so modern as Kaduna city....lol this is just the beginning of Kaduna urban renewal project, y'all haven't seen nothing..

By the way that ain't Europe but Kaduna.. grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:34pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
Bro, cheesy how do you expect a country with almost four times our population to have less cars per capita? grin don't reason like an illiterate slowpoke. If we go by your idea ( per capita car owning) then we'll have to be fair enough and do a simple estimate maths, take our 47m and divide it with yours. Use the number you will get to divide with your per capita car owning,.. huge population should not be your bragging right., that is a disgrace grin


Olodo(an intellectually dumb person in Yoruba language)..what do you understand by per capita slowpoke.....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:36pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:



You sound intellectually dumb..and my guess is that you do t know ...
You just keep disgracing yourself intellectually..
You don't know anything, leave the debate to the prof. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:40pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:



Olodo(an intellectually dumb person in Yoruba language)..what do you understand by per capita slowpoke.....
I know what am saying slowpoke, an average person (individual).. So do the math
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:52pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
You don't know anything, leave the debate to the prof. grin

Lol you just discovered that you have once again intellectually disgraced yourself...


Let me tell you, you forever remain dumb before me..I have never considered you intellectual worthy to string an intelligent argument or even go as far as making a salient point or say something worthwhile other than making noise about illusory towers construction and calling out kazikazi every now and then even though you know kenyans infastructures is no match to theirsbut your fraigile ego and pride won't let you accept the reality...or even go as far as wasting your few remaining energy to drive a wedge between us and our wonderful neighbours( grin ghanians) by screaming gains which I take the pleasure to render you and your empty attempt useless and hopeless...and send you back to get creative.
That is all I have known you for on this thread...you are a waste of space, an empty noise maker with no ounce of sense or reasoning....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:56pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
I know what am saying slowpoke, an average person (individual).. So do the math

And here we have it...you answer just attested to the previous quote I made with you....truly you are dumb but always try to mingle with those with functioning brain whenever something intelligent is being discussed, and funny enough you end up disgracing yourself cos there is nothing up there..if you recall this is not the first time I am calling you dumb(last time I did, you almost ran mad)...I consider you to be a little bit better than sufferingNSmilling in brain activity..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:57pm On Mar 01, 2020
Nairobi..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:08pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:
Lol Nakuru wishes day and night to look so modern as Kaduna city....lol this is just the beginning of Kaduna urban renewal project, y'all haven't seen nothing..

By the way that ain't Europe but Kaduna.. grin grin

Serial illiterate you must be talking about poverty City from the North of Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:09pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
Nairobi..

Outstanding pictures keep up the good work

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:12pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:


And here we have it...you answer just attested to the previous quote I made with you....truly you are dumb but always try to mingle with those with functioning brain whenever something intelligent is being discussed, and funny enough you end up disgracing yourself cos there is nothing up there..if you recall this is not the first time I am calling you dumb(last time I did, you almost ran mad)...I consider you to be a little bit better than sufferingNSmilling in brain activity..

How can you even have a brain when you do not have a head. You do not have mouth nose and ears to see what's going on around you in Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:20pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:


Lol you just discovered that you have once again intellectually disgraced yourself...


Let me tell you, you forever remain dumb before me..I have never considered you intellectual worthy to string an intelligent argument or even go as far as making a salient point or say something worthwhile other than making noise about illusory towers construction and calling out kazikazi every now and then even though you know kenyans infastructures is no match to theirsbut your fraigile ego and pride won't let you accept the reality...or even go as far as wasting your few remaining energy to drive a wedge between us and our wonderful neighbours( grin ghanians) by screaming gains which I take the pleasure to render you and your empty attempt useless and hopeless...and send you back to get creative.
That is all I have known you for on this thread...you are a waste of space, an empty noise maker with no ounce of sense or reasoning....
samorobo a you tube man has never string any intellectual debate with anyone in this forum grin, you're only good at copy pasting articles and posting you tube videos.. I have never seen sense in you bro cheesy. To me you're just a village folk trying to fit in intellectual forums. This forum has really educated grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:24pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:


And here we have it...you answer just attested to the previous quote I made with you....truly you are dumb but always try to mingle with those with functioning brain whenever something intelligent is being discussed, and funny enough you end up disgracing yourself cos there is nothing up there..if you recall this is not the first time I am calling you dumb(last time I did, you almost ran mad)...I consider you to be a little bit better than sufferingNSmilling in brain activity..
once again. I know what am saying, as a matter of facts you can be older by age but damper and poor than me grin, am a graduate of one of the toughest business course in the best university in kenya and Nigeria. Am currently doing my masters wink how about you? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:26pm On Mar 01, 2020
Nigeria's economy is now fragmenting into vapour

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:28pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
Bro, cheesy how do you expect a country with almost four times our population to have less cars per capita? grin don't reason like an illiterate slowpoke. If we go by your idea ( per capita car owning) then we'll have to be fair enough and do a simple estimate maths, take our 47m and divide it with yours. Use the number you will get to divide with your per capita car owning,.. huge population should not be your bragging right., that is a disgrace grin

More new cars were sold in Kenya than in Nigeria even the last few years and by a big margin. They only beat us on Bentleys and other wasteful trophy items.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:30pm On Mar 01, 2020
Kazikazi:
The list of complex engineering stuff is too long..[/b]I have been posting a lot of stuff which are found in united republic of Tanzania but not in Kenya.I posted many stuff like electrified SGR, underwater hotel,simulators,etc.This time,let's look at airport..
[b]Below are photos of the most modern airport in east and central Africa and it is the only airport in the region with a travelator! grin

So this will be number...

008
The most modern airport in east and central Africa is in Tanzania

This is a free forum, you can post your projects without mentioning Kenya. tongue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:32pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
once again. I know what am saying, as a matter of facts you can be older by age but damper and poor than me grin, am a graduate of one of the toughest business course in the best university in kenya and Nigeria. Am currently doing my masters wink how about you? grin

Please just ignore that guy just suffering and smiling show has made him run mentally. He has become one of the 40 million Nigerians which are mentally disturbed. He just cannot stand the truth he buried his head in the sand and when the truth passes he sticks his head out again and start making noise
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:36pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
samorobo a you tube man has never string any intellectual debate with anyone in this forum grin, you're only good at copy pasting articles and posting you tube videos.. I have never seen sense in you bro cheesy. To me you're just a village folk trying to fit in intellectual forums. This forum has really educated grin

You just described yourself and infact re-echoded what I said about you except this time around you included YouTube and stuff...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:36pm On Mar 01, 2020
gallivant:


More new cars were sold in Kenya than in Nigeria even the last few years and by a big margin. They only beat us on Bentleys and other wasteful trophy items.

That is the illiterate Factor borrowing money from the international community and wasting it on luxury vehicles which the country does not manufacture. Since the border closure people are dying of Hunger in Nigeria that is the report I am getting
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:37pm On Mar 01, 2020
the Kenyans wont understand

We've dealt with their phantom currency and they couldnt understand.
theenchanter:
these things don't move a person like me..... since i know what all these things mean. Its first n foremost about d currency of a nation. $3 per day and extreme poverty at $1.9 per day.

Now let me give u a piece of education u may never get in kenya. Our currency, converted to dollar won't make an average Nigerian spend up to $3 in a day, even $1.9 is still much for d average Nigerian to spend.... and I mean, spending with comfortability.

Reason why countries like china, Japan and even Egypt have their own national poverty rate cos following W.B rate won't work for them.

A country like Egypt, for example with same class of currency like Nigeria ( weak against d $ but strong in reality ) set its own poverty rate at $1.45 per day and extreme poverty at less than $1, yet they still record over 30% of poverty rate when they don't use $3 per day like Nigeria.

A dumb country like kenya with currency fair against d $ but weak in reality will easily pass that benchmark cos a litre of coke in kenya is already around $1 when its sells at $0.47 in Nigeria.

U can use poverty rate to sting others, not me.... i'm too sophisticated for that.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:39pm On Mar 01, 2020
Shma:
once again. I know what am saying, as a matter of facts you can be older by age but damper and poor than me grin, am a graduate of one of the toughest business course in the best university in kenya and Nigeria. Am currently doing my masters wink how about you? grin

You do t know what you are saying, you reply to me sold you put for the intellectually dumb graduate from Kenyan toughest business school..I guess this tells alot about Kenyan education....I am pretty sure I am not as old as you...don't bother asking me about my personal life to flip this topic,, we know you are dumb...

And no stop saying rubbish..no Kenya University is better than her Nigerian counterpart..you have current reputable rankings to consult and clear any doubt you must be having...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:40pm On Mar 01, 2020
Just30:
the Kenyans wont understand

We've dealt with their phantom currency and they couldnt understand.

Shma especially..the grand graduated illiterate.. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:42pm On Mar 01, 2020
gallivant:


This is a free forum, you can post your projects without mentioning Kenya. tongue

You guys do that alot...just go build your country infastructurally so you can have what to.post..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:43pm On Mar 01, 2020
The mighty United States of America knows the truth that Nigerian are criminals

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:43pm On Mar 01, 2020
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


That is the illiterate Factor borrowing money from the international community and wasting it on luxury vehicles which the country does not manufacture. Since the border closure people are dying of Hunger in Nigeria that is the report I am getting

Shma you are slightly above this guy intellectually.. grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:44pm On Mar 01, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:54pm On Mar 01, 2020
samorobo:
Hello kagiso....a.k.a austine

You never told me you had a YouTube account...or don't you want subscribers.. grin

Nah I don't

My guy Julaza has one, he's doing the most

I also know your real name and smiley

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