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Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 9:26am On Mar 06, 2020 |
damocool: Chief, i am not disputing the connection factor, it happens everywhere, even in the developed world. As for that Biochemistry grad, its likely age isn't on his side for graduate trainee jobs (27 max) but if not, may be he's not closer to information. Young people who knew nobody still get good jobs in this country. It may not be immediately after youth service but it will definitely come, that is if the said good grade holder is within the age range, passed tests and interviews. I knew nobody when i got my first job in 2014 , in fact i came third on the assessment list of about 500 and my CGPA was 3.61 (Demography & Social statistics). 2 Likes |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by GoodBoi1(m): 9:28am On Mar 06, 2020 |
One thing I don't like about threads like this are posts about people wishing and hoping that 1st class and 2:1 graduates will get it wrong in life. I think it just a way of consoling yourself instead of tackling your own problem head on. Hating on 1st class and 2:1 will not lift you up. There are 2.1+ that have started their own businesses with or without having juicy jobs and are employers of labour. There are many 1st class and 2:1s that did not rely on their certificate but learnt skills while in school and even after school and are doing well and will still achieve greater things later on. Having a third class or about does not guarantee that you will become more successful than those with higher grades if you refuse to take responsibility and do something about your situation. You can succeed regardless of your education and certificate just know what is demanded of you and do it. It might not seem pleasant at first but later on you will be glad you did, just like studying in school. 9 Likes |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 9:31am On Mar 06, 2020 |
uuzba: I didn't dispute the fact that networking plays a major role in job distribution but don't tell me construction companies owned by Nigerians don't get contracts. Go to ikoyi & Lekki and see indigenous building contractors erecting edifices ,don't know much about road though. And you can't take away the Nigerians crave for a touch western people even if they're not the ones carrying out these works but the prestige it gives is why they dish out major contracts to them . It's a tough world out there, i repeat there are people who knew nobody, some have not even been to Lagos until they got job invites and luck smiled on them. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by OlawaleBammie: 9:34am On Mar 06, 2020 |
xcabczyxabczzzz:he graduated with third class in Nigeria before moving abroad 1 Like |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by tallskinnyperv(m): 9:35am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Azazeal007:u can never find work..unless u go back to school and get a better grade....ur life of penury is sure... |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by plana1: 9:38am On Mar 06, 2020 |
DModeCntStopMe:I beg to disagree with you on this. What he has only proved is the fact that it does matter, judging by his performance in office he has failed in all areas of life. 1 Like |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by davidque: 9:40am On Mar 06, 2020 |
OP your question is a useless one. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by CaptainLora: 9:40am On Mar 06, 2020 |
YES! Azazeal007: |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Nobody: 9:42am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Azazeal007:Next time be careful of your language,it may create depression in weak persons who are already struggling with their 3rd class or pass degrees. Instead use the word "less relevant" rather than "useless". Why do people like looking for work this much in Nigeria with so much entrepreneural opportunities to harness. I don't know about you,but employee days were the worst days of my life when I had to sell my time to join build another mans dreams. Good luck in your search 2 Likes |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Jones363: 9:46am On Mar 06, 2020 |
quote author=Afromentalist post=87206266] You people Should read the excellent book by Kyosaki: Why A students work for C students, and why B students work for the government. The truth is, beyond A level, diplomas are almost useless everywhere in the world unless you want to become an academic professor. This is even truer in countries like Nigeria where even the modern slavery system called jobs are not even available except you have a connection or godfather. Certificates are good to wipe yansh nowadays, don't be mistaken about that. The amount of energy and money you put into having a master could turn you into a millionaire if you spent it more wisely. Instead of running after certificates, try to learn rare skills that will make you free and rich. That's what true Mentalists and aspiring Mentalists do. The African Mentalist Ps: those who want the book can contact me for a digital copy. [/quote] please I need a copy Joneschisom@gmail.com dats my mail tnx u 1 Like |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by shine12: 9:49am On Mar 06, 2020 |
In the world of pursuing work based on academic merit, you might struggle but I',ve come to realise that creativity is innate and academic qualifications has been a blessing and curse to some.its taken some to greater heights and its made some to forget their natural talents and dreams. A 3rd class graduate could end up becoming a great business owner. I won't say any human is useless based on the result of a 4 year degree. 1 Like |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by osquareone: 9:50am On Mar 06, 2020 |
[quote author=tripplephi post=87203566] You are either in the wrong field or you are thinking wrong. In today's workplace, SABIFICATE is higher than CERTIFICATE. "Na who PASS KNOW book but na who get JOB KNOW THE WAY" Learn a practical skill and be the best at it and the same employers will beg you to be employed Another factor is WHO DO YOU KNOW..... some names are higher than BSC and even MASTERS..... YOUR NETWORK IS YOUR NETWORTH So if you are still running with the old brain mindset that your paper from school can affect your life, then you are either very very ignorant or just unfortunate. THIRD CLASS PEOPLE THESE DAYS ARE THOSE WHO UNDERSTOOD LIFE EARLY AND KNEW THEIR PATH IN LIFE WAS NOT TO CARRY BOOK ON THEIR HEAD, and after school, it is the 3rd class persons', that becomes rich and better than the first class. SO gbe body eh, shake of that quack mentality your experience has given you and go get 3-5 relevant self employable skills and watch how your life will change in a matter of months. NB: The skills are FREE if you know how to use your MB data well. Some may even be here on nairaland in the business section.[/quote I totally agree with u bro.. I am also a victim but today, by God's grace, I am not using my certificate but SABIFICATE. Just look inward and see wat you can do with ease n still derive pleasure in doing it. 3rd class or pass is just a stepping stone to your greatness only if u can have a positive mindset about life. I celebrate u all greatly. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by mechanics(m): 9:51am On Mar 06, 2020 |
All hope is not lost, maybe you should go a step further by getting professional certification and further studies, it will assist you in getting a job, I even know of a third class graduate working in the civil service, so don't give up. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by osquareone: 9:52am On Mar 06, 2020 |
I am also a victim but today, by God's grace, I am not using my certificate but SABIFICATE. Just look inward and see wat you can do with ease n still derive pleasure in doing it. 3rd class or pass is just a stepping stone to your greatness only if u can have a positive mindset about life. I celebrate u all greatly. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Unserious: 9:52am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Hezmatosky: Never you mention me along with "Ignorant" again! |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by ojaydedon(m): 9:55am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Afromentalist: I want the book |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Jman06(m): 9:59am On Mar 06, 2020 |
The truth is that our education sector needs a total overhaul and a change from the current state of things. We have completely lost the whole essence of education which is to acquire knowledge that can be applied for betterment of the society. That is why somebody would be here arguing that companies prefer 3rd class graduates to first class. Imagine such nonsense! A first class graduate that should be a problem solver in his field! A rallying point that everybody should look up to for solution! But what we have is a system that encourages students to just memorize lecture materials(with AOCs in some cases) and then enter exam hall and write those memorized works, score an A and dump the whole thing thereafter. At the end of the day they come out with first class without understanding anything in their fields of study. Those who tried to go extra miles in understanding the courses they study are sometimes punished with poor grades by lecturers for not regurgitating the exact thing in their lecture materials. If I'm to be a lecturer today, I'll never give out a lecture note or handouts to students and those who don't have good textbooks in my course will not be in my class. Besides, I'll adopt a very strict testing and examination approaches that would ensure a pass for only those who truly understand my course. @op, I think companies should stop discriminating against those with 2-2 and 3rd class but put everybody to test so that those who scale their tests would be employed irrespective of their classes of degree. 5 Likes |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by uchman(m): 10:01am On Mar 06, 2020 |
d33types: You are right brother but there are inevitable |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by 12345DKO(m): 10:05am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Afromentalist:Good morning Please I need the book. boboye209@gmail.com Thank you |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by saintneo(m): 10:06am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Azazeal007: They are not useless. Those are just grades, you just have to have passion for something then try to earn money from it. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Harbeeorlar(m): 10:09am On Mar 06, 2020 |
I will love to read Afromentalist: |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by wizardus: 10:15am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Hmmm... |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Hezmatosky: 10:19am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Unserious:Are you not? As a graduate u are contemplating between 65k job and 35k own when your mates are outside there making good money 2 Likes |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Cmeo(m): 10:19am On Mar 06, 2020 |
They will be very useless if they don't have any skills apart from the certificate. They can however be greatly useful when they have modern days sort after skills. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Unserious: 10:20am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Hezmatosky: Only serious people bother about making money. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by mytalentlyng: 10:22am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Kindly avail me with the book, my email is temidayo.adebiyi1@yahoo.com. Thank you |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by dododawa1: 10:23am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Nonsense, HEAVEN Matter Most Not EARTH. |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Yeminace(m): 10:25am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Pls I want the book..you can send it to my WhatsApp 08060033983 or dewalesam@gmail.com |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by dododawa1: 10:26am On Mar 06, 2020 |
if you have FAIL in you certificate,will you not live Op? |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by OgogoroFreak(m): 10:30am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Academically? Yes, they are useless! |
Re: Are People With 3rd Class & Pass Certificates Useless? by Kelvin30286063(m): 10:32am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Prec1ous:I went to Bluescript IT college, Ibadan. Studied programming following on Php at the time but I have since developed my knowledge by training myself on many other programming languages and frameworks. |
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