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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44am On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
i dont need to try to be smart, i am already.

China will be hit because production is not going on and neither is export.
Nigeria will not be hit by import trade not coming from China.

Nigeria's local production will gain big because of the absence of Chinese competition in the market.
China makes up 28% of Nigerias imports.... Most of it is machines, metals and textiles that Nigeria doesn't produce...... So ofcourse it going to effect Nigerian production and thus in turn effect the Nigerian economy.

Also why will export and inport trade(or lack there of) effect only the Chinese economy and not its biggest importers..... You are literally contradicting your self:

Just30:
that is not the case
import and export trade is not what will cause an economy to be affected.

The squeeze is in the financial market.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:47am On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:


I will be checking that maritime stuff this morning...or better still help me with the link..
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:13.9/centery:9.5/zoom:4
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:50am On Mar 10, 2020
jln115:

China makes up 28% of Nigerias imports.... Most of it is machines, metals and textiles that Nigeria doesn't produce...... So ofcourse it going to effect Nigerian production and thus in turn effect the Nigerian economy.

Also why will export and inport trade(or lack there of) effect only the Chinese economy and not its biggest importers..... You are literally contradicting your self:

because most of it importers already have substitutes for the things they import.

A delay in the supply of machinery only delays a project which is yet to come on stream.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:50am On Mar 10, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

How many does Uganda and Kenya have?
I honestly don't know, but I'm sure Google can help you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:52am On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:


I have the literal meaning of both words..you bring your results here let's analyse.....
I don't care about literal meanings.... We are talking out of a economic stand point.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:54am On Mar 10, 2020
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:04pm On Mar 10, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

Economic and military strength are not the only factors that determine a countries influence and SA has not used its military to influence policy since the Apartheid government. When you look at Tanzania, it is currently pushing its agenda across EAC and SADC due to its history with her neighbors, this includes using Swahili as a major language across both EAC and SADC and even overseas, as well as industrialization and trade.
Tanzania having a weaker military than South Africa has used her military several times to aid other African countries and that is what nations remember. So it will be more easier for Tanzania to go to Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, DRC, Namibia, Mozambique, Madagascar and even South Africa and get help or push its agenda than South Africa to do so.
Just because you don't know about the SANDF aid mission in Mozambique, Lesotho, DRC and Malawi not to mention the aid missions outside SADC in Burundi, S. Sudan and CAR doesn't mean it didn't happen. The South African military is far more involved in non UN sanctioned aid missions across SADC than Tanzania is.

Thirdly South Africa is in the top 5 import Nations of every SADC country.... Not even 1 SADC country is in South Africas top 5 countries it imports from.

Also South Africa is a major contributer to all SADC country FDIs.... On the flip side SADC country make up very little of South Africas FDI.

And Swahili is only used because it has the most mutual intelligibility with other Souther African languages.... That's the only reason

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:09pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
because most of it importers already have substitutes for the things they import.

A delay in the supply of machinery only delays a project which is yet to come on stream.
If they did then they wouldn't import it in the first place!!

Secondly its not just machinery, its also metals and textiles used in production
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:11pm On Mar 10, 2020
jln115:
If they did then they wouldn't import it in the first place!!

Secondly its not just machinery, its also metals and textiles used in production
have you heard convenience and price advantage before?

Nigeria makes a lot of metals and textiles
The importation is just a means to kill local production by flooding the market with cheaper ones

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:32pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
have you heard convenience and price advantage before?

Nigeria makes a lot of metals and textiles
The importation is just a means to kill local production by flooding the market with cheaper ones
have you ever heard of import tariffs and shipping costs?

Yes I agree some imports are cheaper but most aren't and are imported due to either that it's not produced in said country and/or local supply can't meet local demand.

Nigeria imports metals and textiles because they don't produce enough of them as simple as that.

If they did import simply to kill local production as you said then not only is that fvcked up but its economical suicide!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 12:35pm On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:



Masturbate on Lagos old images for self comfort, while I give you nairobi current state...

The fist pics was from stevoh18..
While the second is from the Netflix movie on Nairobi (sense 8, from the latest season)CBD ..we've seen it all, there is nothing to hide..

The nearer view is not CBD that's a market, and it's much more organised than the in Lagos.... Actually, in Lagos someone will confused where exactly is the market, the place is so chaotic and disorganized.... I can share the pics of Lagos about that

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:52pm On Mar 10, 2020
jln115:
have you ever heard of import tariffs and shipping costs?

Yes I agree some imports are cheaper but most aren't and are imported due to either that it's not produced in said country and/or local supply can't meet local demand.

Nigeria imports metals and textiles because they don't produce enough of them as simple as that.

If they did import simply to kill local production as you said then not only is that fvcked up but its economical suicide!!

actually, Nigeria produce enough textiles
way above demand but texiles from China and India are cheaper. hence importation

same goes for metals

yes
IT IS ECONOMIC SUicide when your own citizens seek to kill local production.

This is one of the reasons why textile importation was banned in Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:53pm On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:


Good Christian
Friend no apologies for my beliefs..I know the world is becoming hateful every passing day but give a guy a break.. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:56pm On Mar 10, 2020
jln115:

China makes up 28% of Nigerias imports.... Most of it is machines, metals and textiles that Nigeria doesn't produce...... So ofcourse it going to effect Nigerian production and thus in turn effect the Nigerian economy.

Also why will export and inport trade(or lack there of) effect only the Chinese economy and not its biggest importers..... You are literally contradicting your self:

First Just30 is not a Nigerian,he is a Ghananina..second few countries in Africa can survive on their own..actually, apart from minerals most of ths countries produce nothing..so what happens if we can import medicine or machinery or other tech..just saying...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:57pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
because most of it importers already have substitutes for the things they import.

A delay in the supply of machinery only delays a project which is yet to come on stream.
due ya so luck i dont feel like cursing today..but please just30 use you damn head for Pete's sake grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:59pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

First Just30 is not a Nigerian,he is a Ghananina..second few countries in Africa can survive on their own..actually, apart from minerals most of ths countries produce nothing..so what happens if we can import medicine or machinery or other tech..just saying...
what happens if we cant import any of those things ... you ask

we make our own stuffs. we already have the man power.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:00pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

due ya so luck i dont feel like cursing today..but please just30 use you damn head for Pete's sake grin
i know economics is not your strong area so ill spare you

go and learn
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:02pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
have you heard convenience and price advantage before?

Nigeria makes a lot of metals and textiles
The importation is just a means to kill local production by flooding the market with cheaper ones
Kamikaze economist grin Africa is not ready to compete with ths countries for now..we haven't gotten the tech transfer yet...so you think coz naija got metals an stuff they can go fulll production mode..dude they tried that before..Anyway just to be clear on the photo below, i think Igbos were far ahead of time.. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:05pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
what happens if we cant import any of those things ... you ask

we make our own stuffs. we already have the man power.
Yes but the world has changed..Time for reinventing the wheel is over..Ever heard of global trade..my suggestion is to learn tech an apply it...its worked for china an india an slowly is working in some african countries (like kenya grin)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:06pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
i know economics is not your strong area so ill spare you

go and learn
if i told you my first degree was on economics will you agree.. grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:07pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

Kamikaze economist grin Africa is not ready to compete with ths countries for now..we haven't gotten the tech transfer yet...so you think coz naija got metals an stuff they can go fulll production mode..dude they tried that before..Anyway just to be clear on the photo below, i think Igbos were far ahead of time.. grin
welcome to the conversation

we are talking about manufacturing to feed your own market.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:08pm On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:



Dude you do know we've been over this city comparism for like 4 year and never for once have we agreed that nairobi is better...see it won't take us anything to accept nairobi is better if it is truly better....we fight SA everyday but one can compare Lagos with joburg (except such fellow is insane) , we've seen pics of Cairo, Algiers, Casablanca and even a Nigerian that has not stepped out
if this country willl easily tell you those afforementioned cities is better......

Dude it is has nothing to do with this online feud but the truth, you are not the first we've fought with online and you will not be the last, but when we see a city that is better than ours no matter the hate we just accept a d swallow the bitter pill...ask SA... nairobi doesn't just give us that wow reaction like you expect us to get...cities in the north and south makes us go wow, not nairobi....she is shitty.
Yes an we agreed lags is sh..ty .its only that you don't remember grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:09pm On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:


Dude you guys are freaking poor...you are poorer than us in all front...UNICEF and wfp reveal that....

Just accept and move on...
do i need to post another graph Sir.. cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:12pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

Yes but the world has changed..Time for reinventing the wheel is over..Ever heard of global trade..my suggestion is to learn tech an apply it...its worked for china an india an slowly is working in some african countries (like kenya grin)
so now
manufacturing is reinventing the wheel ? grin grin grin grin

smh

African economies were set up to serve their European colonial powers and this hasn't changed.

but at least some are breaking those hard to be broken chains and are gaining momuntum.

And Kenya is a worse performing country in manufacturing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:13pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

if i told you my first degree was on economics will you agree.. grin grin
i will tell you
they taught you nothing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:16pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
so now
manufacturing is reinventing the wheel ? grin grin grin grin

smh

African economies were set up to serve their European colonial powers and this hasn't changed.

but at least some are breaking those hard to be broken chains and are gaining momuntum.
boss its the new game..do you know why big tech companies buy start-ups...
Look we dont need to reinvent the wheel..you dont need to create another Facebook coz you feel africa needs its own facebook...You dont need to manufacture crappy cars in the name of Africanization when we all know that most of stuff is from china..get my point grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:19pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
i will tell you
they taught you nothing
look am into IT now grin but the crap you post here about economics sometimes makes me shudder with rage an fury grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Mar 10, 2020
samorobo:


You hating now you know...more Kaduna for your view, different part
same junction .. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
actually, Nigeria produce enough textiles
way above demand but texiles from China and India are cheaper. hence importation

same goes for metals

yes
IT IS ECONOMIC SUicide when your own citizens seek to kill local production.

This is one of the reasons why textile importation was banned in Nigeria
Think logically for a second please!!! Why would anybody produce textiles in the first place, if it was cheaper for everybody to import it from China?? If Nigeria produced enough textiles then they wouldnt import it, if indeed textiles are cheaper to import then nobody would produce it,

It is impossible for Nigeria to locally produce enough textiles that meets(or as you say exceeds) demand yet then to import even more textiles from China because its cheaper..... What you are saying is economically(and mathematically) impossible,

Same goes for metals

And how would citizens kill local production? No sane person is going to buy the same product for twice the price just because its produced in their own country... It's up to government to ensure that local production is cheap enough(through government support, infastructure and other policies) as well as ensuring that import products from countries like China are tariffed as to ensure fairness within the markets
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:23pm On Mar 10, 2020
sherlock229:


I didn't say anything about race here, this was on your south African news . �nice try trying to bring race to this, that shows who you are,a racist ass and a coward
aint a Southy,aint a racist

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:24pm On Mar 10, 2020
Just30:
what happens if we cant import any of those things ... you ask

we make our own stuffs. we already have the man power.
But we don't have the skill or infastructure to do so as yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:25pm On Mar 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

sorry bro but if we were to post every head chopped in naija hood then ths thread will be 10000 pages..dude guys cant quarrel now ? ..i mean a white guy cant argue with a black dude...Its like you guys got a weird perception of white people..they are humans also dude..sh..t will always happen..
thank you!!

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