DNSPro:


Please do you have any soft copy for contract that I could use? I am due for meeting in a few weeks and I wouldn't want to be stupid.

xtremecr8:

Thank you sir. We realised it was a ploy to intimidate and delay our payment because we found it strange why they would be using the logo and then send us to legal. If it was in good faith, the use of our design should have been on hold until we finish with their legal. Using our IP and sending us to legal because we demanded for our bill while they are using our design is completely strange and unjust if you look at it closely. Besides, at no time did we raise any dispute so. We gave our best and didn't see this coming at all. Like we said, everyone should learn from our bad experience with FIRST Bank.

SEGLIZ:

thank she failed woefully.
do we blame government for this? No.
we keep undoing ourselves, Nigerians everywhere just out to kill start-ups.
she must pay for this she has done, let's all join hands in calling the wicked woman or any individual behind this evil, together we most bring down our oppressors.

Greenarrow01:
Let no one deceive you sir.
You are taking the wrong approach.
Totally wrong.
First of all.. this is your business right
You also have had dealings with this same FBN in 2015 or so
All this campaign to smear their image won't work
Not just that.. you are spoiling your business reputation.
Other brands will surely run away from you.
I once had issue with Nescafé.. we took it the slow easy step.. we got paid and no issue.
Doing this will make the bank not even pay you.
Firstly
Secondly . They will most likely not give you another job again.
Thirdly. Other organizations will run away from you.

You are not the only vendor or what should I say that works with FBN.
There are tons of other people working with them and you think they will just want to take your "small money" and run.
These monies goes through a whole lot of process . They won't just pay you instantly...

The simple thing for you to do is get InTouch with their legal dept. Nothing criminal here.. hear them out, discuss and get paid.
You have to do their bidding ooo.. if not you re wasting your time.

There are contractors who handle projects way bigger than yours, with institutions and govts.
They get owned and things like this happen often, do you see them rushing to court or paying thousands in a bound to fail campaign ?
No
They will rather protect their interest, get paid and bid for more and more jobs.

Set up a meeting with their legal dept. Or even the Mrs in question, discuss... Apologize for the smear campaign and get paid..


People also suggested you met Twitter influencers.. I am sure you must have talked to one or two of them and they declined you, cos they eat from these banks too and will never use your small change to severe the relationship they have built over the years with these brands.

So uncle.. please don't be stubborn.
Go to FBN legal dept, you don't even need a lawyer for this... Go there..tell them you have not been paid.. and you wanna be paid simple.
Smear campaign won't rubbish a brand as big as FBN

Wickedfacts:
If First Bank can be doing this with intellectual property, you can only imagine how they would be defrauding depositors and stealing their money.

A lot staff of first bank are hardcore criminals. They are the ones who supply info to bank robbers and that is why 90% of robberies today are at First Bank branches. Go and type bank robbery on Nairaland search bar or anywhere and see the bank involved. It is usually First Bank.

Anyway, on Monday, I'll move my business accounts out of First bank. I can't allow these thieves ruin my years of sweat with their sticky fingers. Will forward this thread to my associates. Thieves are in charge of First bank now.

Compliant:
@ op I don't think you are telling us the whole truth, because I see no reason why you dont want to goto legal dept and hear them out.

Niseed:

I will strongly advise that you take this down and engage with FB to at least know their stance on whether they want to pay you or not.

Greenarrow01:

So uncle.. please don't be stubborn.
Go to FBN legal dept, you don't even need a lawyer for this... Go there..tell them you have not been paid.. and you wanna be paid simple.
Smear campaign won't rubbish a brand as big as FBN

Greenarrow01:
Let no one deceive you sir.
You are taking the wrong approach.
Totally wrong.
First of all.. this is your business right
You also have had dealings with this same FBN in 2015 or so
All this campaign to smear their image won't work
Not just that.. you are spoiling your business reputation.
Other brands will surely run away from you.
I once had issue with Nescafé.. we took it the slow easy step.. we got paid and no issue.
Doing this will make the bank not even pay you.
Firstly
Secondly . They will most likely not give you another job again.
Thirdly. Other organizations will run away from you.

You are not the only vendor or what should I say that works with FBN.
There are tons of other people working with them and you think they will just want to take your "small money" and run.
These monies goes through a whole lot of process . They won't just pay you instantly...

The simple thing for you to do is get InTouch with their legal dept. Nothing criminal here.. hear them out, discuss and get paid.
You have to do their bidding ooo.. if not you re wasting your time.

There are contractors who handle projects way bigger than yours, with institutions and govts.
They get owned and things like this happen often, do you see them rushing to court or paying thousands in a bound to fail campaign ?
No
They will rather protect their interest, get paid and bid for more and more jobs.

Set up a meeting with their legal dept. Or even the Mrs in question, discuss... Apologize for the smear campaign and get paid..


People also suggested you met Twitter influencers.. I am sure you must have talked to one or two of them and they declined you, cos they eat from these banks too and will never use your small change to severe the relationship they have built over the years with these brands.

So uncle.. please don't be stubborn.
Go to FBN legal dept, you don't even need a lawyer for this... Go there..tell them you have not been paid.. and you wanna be paid simple.
Smear campaign won't rubbish a brand as big as FBN

xtremecr8:
We gave all our best to deliver that logo, they didn't pay us a dime and wants to get away with it because we're a small brand.
Since this campaign started, we have exchanged notes with other small brands and it's like it is like an industry practice here in Nigeria where big brand take your IP and tell you to go to court.
It is a serious organization moral deficit in First Bank if the top decision makers have seen nothing wrong in not paying us a dime for all our hardwork yet continued using our logo we created for them and using trolls like Mr Aboderin to bully us online.
We gave our all but didn't see this coming and we sincerely feel let down.
We don't deserve this kind of ill treatment from FBN.

billante:


Why you have refused to go and meet the legal department and even hear what they have to say is what baffles me....

Is there something illegal you did that you don't want to be thrown up if you go and see the legal department...lots of questions begging for answers.

There is something just not right about this matter from your end!

xtremecr8:

We are not faceless people. We are upright and God fearing people and organization. We want to get paid for our sweat and labour without incurring extra pain and cost to plead with people to help us beg FBN to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo . If that's what is wrong, then we are right sir.We are small brand but not unreasonable. We know FBN has enough resources to keep trolls after us.We are the victim and doesn't deserve to be treated like this by big brand First Bank.
We would have met with any unit or anybody if our logo had not being used and being used.

Scout60:


I will not say anything till first bank legal team sues you to court.
Do you know that intellectual theft is a heinous crime? Before such are being paid for, you must always sign because of future wahala. Go to the legal team and hear them out. Don't be stubborn

xtremecr8:

Darkness can only triump over light only in the interim. The light of truth will triump eventually.
Please tell your favoured FBN management to pay us for designing the bank's 125th Anniversary logo sir.It is the right thing to do. Even the Christian Holy book, The Holy Bible, says "a labourer is worthy of his wage".
Thank God that there are still men and women of good conscience in this land. We are grateful to them all for their support and prayers.
We will not go to court,at least for now, for the reasons we have already explained sir. Luckily, no crime is statute barred but we will toe the path of decency and transparency until reason prevails.
No where in the world will this happen and this is completely unacceptable. They took our work and didn't pay us.

Niseed:
Op has first bank told you to see them in court? Did you hand them all the creative's? You must have for them to use on all their platforms and materials.

Again I ask, why have you not spoken to the legal team or anyone from the bank in regards to your pay? Letters/ mail trail and invoices will go a long way here.

Since this is Nigeria and not overseas where logo designs can run into thousands or millions of dollars or pounds, I'm guessing your money should be no more than N1-2m.

Unless you billed them as per foreign standards like Saatchi & Saatchi.

How much are they owing you for this logo?

xtremecr8:

Sir, even if it's N100 that we demanded,(in reality, we incurred more tha 6-digit cost in naira to eventually meet the very high standard demanded by big brand FBN) is that a sufficient reason not to pay us? Is it that first bank doesn't have money to pay for such an important milestone as 125 year anniversary logo? Is this how,as a nation, we want to develop,grow and support the creative industry? We created the logo,they found it irresistible,accepted it,used and still using it but they should not pay us?
The simple question remains: Did first bank pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo? NO!Not even a dime. And we should keep quiet and die in silence or play along with her tactics?
Is it about the money? Yes, because we really worked hard to create that logo and we deserve to get paid for it.
First Bank beat us as a small brand and now still asking us not to cry by sending trolls after us to bully us online.
Why is it so difficult to ask first bank if it had paid us or is it that we should not be paid for our hardwork creating that logo?

commodore007:
I see people here talking about meeting the legal department..we have to be clear on some issues here
first the OP has no reason to see the legal department at all, simply because first bank tried to play on their intelligence by using their logo without paying which in it self is illegal .there is this legal maxim A fortiori " with even stronger reason, which applies to a situation in which if one is true then it can be deduced that the second thing is even more true. so there fore if it's true that this logo design was was not paid for, then it is more true that first bank has an a ulterior motive all through the transaction. Ask your self this question, why hasn't FBN come out to deny this allegations or why haven't they sue xtreme cr8 to court.....think friends, think

VolvoS60:
I will be watching this thread and other media very keenly to see how this matter plays out.

I don't have enough information about this dispute and so I can't comment for now. What I can comment on however, is my experience with this same bank on a customer's (whom I was representing) bank deposits.

The bank was determined to unlawfully hold on to the customer's bank balances at all costs. I do not make this statement lightly. Before my experience I would not have believed the lengths First Bank would go to in order to cheat an ordinary depositor - a septuagenarian pensioner. Their legal department did their best to frustrate us into making a false move that would have cost us dearly. The plan was to goad us into pursuing full fledged litigation - their calculation was that the matter would be tied up in court for years and the customer's money would remain in their vaults. The system is rigged in their favour that way.

The matter was eventually resolved and First Bank paid up - without us having to go to court. If we had gone to court, we would (note that I have not used any qualifiers like 'probably' here) still be there today, with no hope of a resolution - several years later.

To me at least, First Bank's management has no people of integrity. Zero. None.

VolvoS60:
I will be watching this thread and other media very keenly to see how this matter plays out.

I don't have enough information about this dispute and so I can't comment for now. What I can comment on however, is my experience with this same bank on a customer's (whom I was representing) bank deposits.

The bank was determined to unlawfully hold on to the customer's bank balances at all costs. I do not make this statement lightly. Before my experience I would not have believed the lengths First Bank would go to in order to cheat an ordinary depositor - a septuagenarian pensioner. Their legal department did their best to frustrate us into making a false move that would have cost us dearly. The plan was to goad us into pursuing full fledged litigation - their calculation was that the matter would be tied up in court for years and the customer's money would remain in their vaults. The system is rigged in their favour that way.

The matter was eventually resolved and First Bank paid up - without us having to go to court. If we had gone to court, we would (note that I have not used any qualifiers like 'probably' here) still be there today, with no hope of a resolution - several years later.

To me at least, First Bank's management has no people of integrity. Zero. None.

AbiBuruji722:
Dear Extreme creation, sorry for this occurrence. Be reminded that, all of them even d GMD might be aware of this. The only person you can trust in FBN is Mrs Awosika, I might be wrong, have you noticed that you won't see the photograph of the MD in any banking hall. That is a signal.
God will fight for you