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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:16am On Mar 12, 2020
Akinbahm:
Fkhalifa what's happening in Anfield?

This is Anfield ranting has failed to qualify us into next round.

Finally LiVARpool walks alone...
As a Liverpool supporter(not a die hard fan), I'll tell you football happened.
The players gave it all, intensity was top notch..
It was more of Adrian's error and Oblak's brilliance.
If we'd lost to olympiacos in this fashion, it'll be understandable as part of football.

Every Liverpool players aside Adrian gave a B+ performance, it wasn't just going to be their day.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:29am On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

As a Liverpool supporter(not a die hard fan), I'll tell you football happened.
The players gave it all, intensity was top notch..
It was more of Adrian's error and Oblak's brilliance.
If we'd lost to olympiacos in this fashion, it'll be understandable as part of football.

Every Liverpool players aside Adrian gave a B+ performance, it wasn't just going to be their day.
yes especially when Arnold is bombarding atletico defence with crosses. That one is football, atleast arsenal didn't lose home and away.
Btw we played a better atletico under wengay we didn't chop it like livarpool did
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 8:37am On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

As a Liverpool supporter(not a die hard fan), I'll tell you football happened.
The players gave it all, intensity was top notch..
It was more of Adrian's error and Oblak's brilliance.
If we'd lost to olympiacos in this fashion, it'll be understandable as part of football.

Every Liverpool players aside Adrian gave a B+ performance, it wasn't just going to be their day.

A football club (liverpool) is different from a boys club(Assnal) . You better leave them in their no champions league cup world ... shameless team grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 8:47am On Mar 12, 2020
fredoooooo:


A football club (liverpool) is different from a boys club(Assnal) . You better leave them in their no champions league cup world ... shameless team grin grin grin

Peelee, BLLB football club...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 8:50am On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

As a Liverpool supporter(not a die hard fan), I'll tell you football happened.
The players gave it all, intensity was top notch..
It was more of Adrian's error and Oblak's brilliance.
If we'd lost to olympiacos in this fashion, it'll be understandable as part of football.

Every Liverpool players aside Adrian gave a B+ performance, it wasn't just going to be their day.

Once again This is Anfield...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by eph12(m): 8:59am On Mar 12, 2020
olabode89:
Lmao! Look at all this Gayner fans attributing United's win to zero tactics and 100% passion. I am not sure you guys watched the match.

United played a 3-5-2 formation with two fast split attackers. The main idea was to defend robustly with Matic and Fred screening the centre of the defence. Speedy James was played on the right side of the attack to enable him trouble the much slower and rash Zichenko and Otamendi respectively. Bruno was giving a free role in the midfield to enable him play Martial or James on goal.

Maguire was also given the license to step out of defence to enable him stay close to Aguero, in this scenario Matic would always drop deep to cover the space left by Maguire.

Saying we had zero tactics is just unfair. When Mahrez came on and started raping young Brandon Williams, We had to move Shaw to LB and Bailly as a Sub to CB. McTominay was also brought in for Martial to break play up and pack the midfield. When we didn't have an outlet to play over the top, Ighalo was brought in. Are all this not tactics.

How can a team beat the opponent 3 times with the same formation and tactics and you guys are still saying the team had no tactics and the victories were as a result of passion is baffling.
They think tactics is when you have 70% possession and play 900 passes. People dull sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:13am On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
yes especially when Arnold is bombarding atletico defence with crosses. That one is football, atleast arsenal didn't lose home and away.
Btw we played a better atletico under wengay we didn't chop it like livarpool did
That was direct and purposeful football as against the slow insipid clueless we see at the Emigrates.
Olympiacos beating Arsenal once in the 2legs is no news, but Atletico doing it at Anfield will sure fill the headlines.

I disagree that the Atlectico we played that season was better, don't forget they dropped from group stage, Chelsea beat them home and away that year.
And bottling a 1-0 lead to a team red carded at 13th minute at Emirates, is a big L.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:16am On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

That was direct and purposeful football as against the slow insipid clueless we see at the Emigrates.
Olympiacos beating Arsenal once in the 2legs is no news, but Atletico doing it at Anfield will sure fill the headlines.

I disagree the Atlectico we played that year was better, don't forget they dropped from group stage, Chelsea beat them home and away that year.
And bottling a 1-0 lead to a team red carded at 13th minute at Emirates, is a big L.
Direct and purposeful football with 3 DMs.
Bros that bus parking in the middle with the aim of freeing the wing to cross and nod.
Is that football
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:19am On Mar 12, 2020
Akinbahm:


Once again This is Anfield...
Once again this is football, do you think Atlectico will like to come to Anfield again.

BTW, What I saw with that Atlectico shows we have a long way to get to UCL standard.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:25am On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Direct and purposeful football with 3 DMs.
Bros that bus parking in the middle with the aim of freeing the wing to cross and nod.
Is that football
I don't understand this your 3Dms packing bus talk.
I saw V.dijk and Gomez mostly at center midfield.Others were high up.
Only Henderson is a DM, Winaldum is box to box, very good at defending, transitioning and attacking.
Oxlade does more of attack than defending.

Do you see thier midfielders doing the slow,safe pass me I pass you?
Forget, that's champagne football.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:31am On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Direct and purposeful football with 3 DMs.
Bros that bus parking in the middle with the aim of freeing the wing to cross and nod.
Is that football
the way you dey call this cross and nod as if that's only what they did. The Liverpool I watched ystdy did the perfect combination of all. Crosses, defence splitting passes, shots and all. The only person that fücked up ystdy was only Adrian at a critical moment. Before then, athletico was toothless and even their defensive masterclass wasn't so evident yesterday.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:50am On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

I don't understand this your 3Dms packing bus talk.
I saw V.dijk and Gomez mostly at center midfield.Others were high up.
Only Henderson is a DM, Winaldum is box to box, very good at defending, transitioning and attacking.
Oxlade does more of attack than defending.

Do you see thier midfielders doing the slow,safe pass me I pass you?
Forget, that's champagne football.
box to box ko
Basket to basket ni, you can as well tell me torreira is not a DM because he's box to box.
Klopp regular midfield: Gigi, fabinho and Henderson
Please tell me what these guys do defend or attack
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:50am On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
the way you dey call this cross and nod as if that's only what they did. The Liverpool I watched ystdy did the perfect combination of all. Crosses, defence splitting passes, shots and all. The only person that fücked up ystdy was only Adrian at a critical moment. Before then, athletico was toothless and even their defensive masterclass wasn't so evident yesterday.
Forget the 2 goals they scored yesterday was cross and nod, same with majority of goals they scored this season.
Adrian is part of the team, sallah and mane couldn't convert their chances.
It's not defensive master class it's tactical masterclass, we have preached this LFC team is no special Simone made it obvious. Ole also got them but his team couldn't finish them off.
Just block the full backs and the useless midfielders to roam about that's it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:14am On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Forget the 2 goals they scored yesterday was cross and nod, same with majority of goals they scored this season.
Adrian is part of the team, sallah and mane couldn't convert their chances.
It's not defensive master class it's tactical masterclass, we have preached this LFC team is no special Simone made it obvious. Ole also got them but his team couldn't finish them off.
Just block the full backs and the useless midfielders to roam about that's it.
My own be say the midfield was their strength and any loss in shape them go chop am, they kept yapping VVD upandan and comparing him with a Mustafi that was regularly bombarded while playing behind a midfield partnership of Guen/Xhaka that would easily go down as the worst midfield partnership of all time.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:15am On Mar 12, 2020
Once again una no know ball.


elampiro 2015

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:48am On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Forget the 2 goals they scored yesterday was cross and nod, same with majority of goals they scored this season.
Adrian is part of the team, sallah and mane couldn't convert their chances.
It's not defensive master class it's tactical masterclass, we have preached this LFC team is no special Simone made it obvious. Ole also got them but his team couldn't finish them off.
Just block the full backs and the useless midfielders to roam about that's it.
Adrian is part of the team, agreed, but he cost the team. There was no reason to hurriedly pass that ball....not like Liverpool was trailing sef.
Salah and Mane missed chances, they created chances and they tried their best. All was undone by just a stupid moment of Adrian. The attack was perfect, oblak was just too great. Yes they crossed, but that's what is expected wen it team parks d bus. But even at that, salah and chamberlain was still doing damages, in terms of breaking 18 and outside the ball shot. Everything was under control until Adrian happened
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:25am On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
Adrian is part of the team, agreed, but he cost the team. There was no reason to hurriedly pass that ball....not like Liverpool was trailing sef.
Salah and Mane missed chances, they created chances and they tried their best. All was undone by just a stupid moment of Adrian. The attack was perfect, oblak was just too great. Yes they crossed, but that's what is expected wen it team parks d bus. But even at that, salah and chamberlain was still doing damages, in terms of breaking 18 and outside the ball shot. Everything was under control until Adrian happened
So simple and straightforward, I fail to see how this isn't clear enough to who saw the game.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:09pm On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

So simple and straightforward, I fail to see how this isn't clear enough to who saw the game.
Well, most people are looking for the "I told you so moment" that they fail to see the details
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:10pm On Mar 12, 2020
Fkhalifa:

So simple and straightforward, I fail to see how this isn't clear enough to who saw the game.
Adrian is the only one with error, our best defender in EPL was escorting morata
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:14pm On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Adrian is the only one with error, [/b]our best defender in EPL was escorting morata[b]
angry grin grin grin.
You can't just let you go, can you?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:18pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
angry grin grin grin.
You can't just let you go, can you?
You guys were blaming Adrian. Against Chelsea that we lost at Emirates no one blamed Leno for his mistake instead we turned to mustafi for allowing Abraham to score.
Just like everyone blamed ederson for city losing at ot but sterling was missing several chances.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:33pm On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
You guys were blaming Adrian. Against Chelsea that we lost at Emirates no one blamed Leno for his mistake instead we turned to mustafi for allowing Abraham to score.
Just like everyone blamed ederson for city losing at ot but sterling was missing several chances.
I don't know who didn't blame Leno for the first goal. Almost everyone blamed Leno, even on this thread.(if you can check, check it out)
For the Liverpool game, Me wey dey play amateur football know how deflating it's wen you and your team try to let's say equalize against an opponent you deem to strong and towards the end of the match, one teammate of yours, him head touch and he gave a back pass to your opponent 9, setting him through on goal 1-on-1.
We know it's deflating.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 12:59pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
angry grin grin grin.
You can't just let you go, can you?
Jodera are you saying VVD would have been reckoned with if he was playing behind the likes of Guen/Xhaka? The other day I was explaining why Mustafi shouldn’t be scapegoated for our woeful defence during Emery’s disastrous era and said even VVD wouldn’t do better in that situation and peeps came for my head.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:02pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
I don't know who didn't blame Leno for the first goal. Almost everyone blamed Leno, even on this thread.(if you can check, check it out)
For the Liverpool game, Me wey dey play amateur football know how deflating it's wen you and your team try to let's say equalize against an opponent you deem to strong and towards the end of the match, one teammate of yours, him head touch and he gave a back pass to your opponent 9, setting him through on goal 1-on-1.
We know it's deflating.
If this same scenario played out under Emery and Mustafi was in the line up y’all would have found away to blame Mustafi for it.

What I’ve noticed here is some peeps once they just hate a player and like another their thoughts will never be rational.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:05pm On Mar 12, 2020
Look at Man-U today, their sudden shape in defence is it as a result of Maguire’s masterclass or A better midfield and attack shape.

If you like pair Maguire with VVD behind that Emery useless midfield pairing their reputation would be soiled
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:13pm On Mar 12, 2020
kokaneprodigy:

If this same scenario played out under Emery and Mustafi was in the line up y’all would have found away to blame Mustafi for it.

What I’ve noticed here is some peeps once they just hate a player and like another their thoughts will never be rational.
if you can dig, dig my post, esp the Chelsea first leg. I blamed Leno for the loss, and even guendouzi sef for the 2nd goal(he was escorting willian). I don't think I blamed mustafi for the 2nd goal, or that much. My anger that day was on Leno, cos that error deflated our players, and that's why the 2nd goal happened.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:19pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
I don't know who didn't blame Leno for the first goal. Almost everyone blamed Leno, even on this thread.(if you can check, check it out)
For the Liverpool game, Me wey dey play amateur football know how deflating it's wen you and your team try to let's say equalize against an opponent you deem to strong and towards the end of the match, one teammate of yours, him head touch and he gave a back pass to your opponent 9, setting him through on goal 1-on-1.
We know it's deflating.
Adrian's error wasn't severe as it look, Felix still have to pass to llorente.
Tell me what was VVD and Gomez doing, that was how they blamed lovren for the defeat last time.
Same way we always scapegoat mustafi for our losses too
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:27pm On Mar 12, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Jodera are you saying VVD would have been reckoned with if he was playing behind the likes of Guen/Xhaka? The other day I was explaining why Mustafi shouldn’t be scapegoated for our woeful defence during Emery’s disastrous era and said even VVD wouldn’t do better in that situation and peeps came for my head.
Well, in terms of VVD, I know I watched Liverpool pre-VVD and during his signing and the defence was like 2 different defences.
Liverpool defence b4 VVD was shambolic, they concede goals left right and center. Yes their attack was scoring, but defence was woeful. Always Liverpool guys hated lovren and matip was branded a flop then. Then VVD arrived and their defence turned for good. One thing with VVD is that he's good at organizing defence. With guen and xhaka in midfield and VVD and let's say chambers or holding at the back, we'll concede but not as much we're conceding normally.
Also, I know Gomez and matip massively improved with the arrival of VVD.
So yes, our defence would have improved. But would he had gotten the hype he's getting now at Liverpool if he's in arsenal.
That I doubt
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:32pm On Mar 12, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Adrian's error wasn't severe as it look, Felix still have to pass to llorente.
Tell me what was VVD and Gomez doing, that was how they blamed lovren for the defeat last time.
Same way we always scapegoat mustafi for our losses too
Felix, did a 1 time pass to llorente. Who in turn did a one time touch to take a shot and score the goal. All was done within split seconds. I dunno how that wasn't Adrian fault. That was very severe. I didn't watch their fa cup so I can't comment on that. But you see this particular own? Even klopp that's known to defend his players publicly still blamed Adrian.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:37pm On Mar 12, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Look at Man-U today, their sudden shape in defence is it as a result of Maguire’s masterclass or A better midfield and attack shape.

If you like pair Maguire with VVD behind that Emery useless midfield pairing their reputation would be soiled
Man u have had good defence since. They don't too concede goals like that, it's just their attack that was floundering that's why it seems their defence was bad. Check their goals conceded per match and you'll see it's not so bad, but of course, wen attack is bad, you'll think defence too is bad

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:53pm On Mar 12, 2020
Jodera:
Well, in terms of VVD, I know I watched Liverpool pre-VVD and during his signing and the defence was like 2 different defences.
Liverpool defence b4 VVD was shambolic, they concede goals left right and center. Yes their attack was scoring, but defence was woeful. Always Liverpool guys hated lovren and matip was branded a flop then. Then VVD arrived and their defence turned for good. One thing with VVD is that he's good at organizing defence. With guen and xhaka in midfield and VVD and let's say chambers or holding at the back, we'll concede but not as much we're conceding normally.
Also, I know Gomez and matip massively improved with the arrival of VVD.
So yes, our defence would have improved. But would he had gotten the hype he's getting now at Liverpool if he's in arsenal.
That I doubt
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying there aren’t bad defenders.

In Liverpool’s case prior to VVD they had bad defence. How do I know this?

In Liverpool’s case the midfield was very good at helping the attack and it hardly leaks for opposition to break into Liverpool’s defence but once they do the probability of Liverpool conceding was high.

In our case our defence was regularly bombarded right from the sound of the whistle, the midfield of Xhaka, Guen and Willock didn’t shield the defence neither was it helping the attack. That’s the difference yet guys always blamed the defence particularly picking on Mustafi.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:08pm On Mar 12, 2020
kokaneprodigy:

Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying there aren’t bad defenders.

In Liverpool’s case prior to VVD they had bad defence. How do I know this?

In Liverpool’s case the midfield was very good at helping the attack and it hardly leaks for opposition to break into Liverpool’s defence but once they do the probability of Liverpool conceding was high.

In our case our defence was regularly bombarded right from the sound of the whistle, the midfield of Xhaka, Guen and Willock didn’t shield the defence neither was it helping the attack. That’s the difference yet guys always blamed the defence particularly picking on Mustafi.
Ask yourself why mustafi is always singled out
He does errors that even amateur footballer might not even think of doing. We keeping offside line, hr strays and breaks the line, thereby keeping opposition player onside.
He makes error leading to goals, that's crucial against our teams. In fact so many errors he commits. There's a reason even rival fans laughs at us about mustafi, just as we normally laugh man u guys about Jones.

Well, he's improving and I hope he maintains his form. I remembered how monreal was once like him(derided and mocked too, and every blame in defence was on him), but b4 he left us he turned things around and became our best and consistent left back. I hope mustafi becomes like that too.

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