Just30:
all markets are collapsing because of the oil market collapse

i talked about that days ago

those collapses have led us to Kenya debts as investors are pulling out.

Mzal3ndo:

I can believe I have to explain this, you get better deals when you have influence in a nation. Things like tax breaks and incentives from the host nation goes a far way. That is why before a major investment in a country, the embassy helps to set the tone for how the investment should go before the company steps in to negotiate the terms.
And you are the one who lost touch with reality thinking DRC or Zambia would side with SA in trade.

TayserMahrii:


What are you saying son ? There's no connection between Kenya's loans (not debts, learn the difference) and oil market collapse. At the very least I expect you to know that the oil market collapse is a mega boon to us.

mtisTheQubit:

ohh that theory..totally in agreement ...anyway give me time to come up with something about my halo theory..its so beautiful, soo awesome that people even say it should win a nobel price

mtisTheQubit:

Thats how Just30 rolls..guy like a spineless snake

Kazikazi:
Look at this madman!
Do you know we fought against SA army in Angola?
Do you know we are the father of SADC? If TZ pulls out of SADC,the whole thing will collapse! More nations in SADC will choose TZ than SA in case stuff start going somehow.We are currently doing alot of things,just wait few years you will see what will happen to that SADC

jln115:

Zambias largest importer is South Africa..... By far in fact, and they import twice as much from South Africa than China. DRCs largest importer is also South Africa and Malawis biggest importer is guess what....South Africa.

Also due to mutual trade agreements certain imports are much cheaper to get from South Africa than China. Not to mention the fdi that South Africa brings in across SADC.... You said SADC trades with SA because its the logical thing to do and you are 100% thus why you'd you choose Tanzania above South Africa? Since that's not logical at all.

Kazikazi:
[center][/center]Do you have an idea of how many foreigners are playing in that derby? Don't compare your shithole derby with ours

Mzal3ndo:


High tech What high tech?? Name one "high tech" stuff that Zambia, Malawi and DRC can only get from South Africa and not from China through the port of Dar es salaam... Name one. Name one export item that Zambia, Malawi and DRC can only export to the world through South Africa and not through ports of Tanga, Dar es salaam, Mtwara, Maputo, Nacala or Beira. Name one.

tylann:

It is just that Tanzania has nothing to offer Drc or Zambia
South Africa has more to offer economically

Mzal3ndo:

I can believe I have to explain this, you get better deals when you have influence in a nation. Things like tax breaks and incentives from the host nation goes a far way. That is why before a major investment in a country, the embassy helps to set the tone for how the investment should go before the company steps in to negotiate the terms.
And you are the one who lost touch with reality thinking DRC or Zambia would side with SA in trade.

Mzal3ndo:


You are right, SA does have more to offer economically, but only a fool would say that Tanzania has nothing to offer. Tanzania is currently on an industrialization drive and with that most of the items that these countries are importing from South Africa will be imported from Tanzania. Items such as sugar, steel and iron together with fertilizers which are South Africa's major export to these countries will be available from Tanzania and if you refer to your elementary school geography you will see why they will trade with Tanzania.

68816419:
Lagos Architectures

Shma:
I love this man ..

TayserMahrii:


It was Tz vs SA not SA vs China, duh. The mere fact that you have to bring in China to fight SA shows you that SA is way beyond your league. Was expecting you to tell me to show you what high tech stuff SA produces that Tz does not produce. I would have done so. Instead you are referring me to China.

In terms of import sources, 72% of Tanzania’s intra-Africa imports originated from the South Africa and Kenya in 2017.
In 2018, 69% of Tanzania’s intra-Africa imports originated from South Africa and Kenya.
The top imports included iron & steel, sugar, motor vehicles and fertilisers.

This is a breakdown of what you import from SA.

Electrical, electronic equipment
Furniture, lighting signs, prefabricated buildings
Machinery, reactors, boilers
Toys, games, sports requisites
Pharmaceutical products
Iron or steel products

tylann:

No it will take time a very long time for you to industrialize as you are saying to start selling those goods to Drc and Zambia and I doubt they will be waiting for you
Sharing borders means nothing when you have nothing to trade with them

TayserMahrii:


Im shocked you think you can compete with SA outside of Tz borders when you cant even compete with them inside your borders. Your priorities are wrong. Start by beating them at home.

Mzal3ndo:

https://allafrica.com/stories/202001280561.html

Mzal3ndo:


High tech What high tech?? Name one "high tech" stuff that Zambia, Malawi and DRC can only get from South Africa and not from China through the port of Dar es salaam... Name one. Name one export item that Zambia, Malawi and DRC can only export to the world through South Africa and not through ports of Tanga, Dar es salaam, Mtwara, Maputo, Nacala or Beira. Name one.

Kazikazi:
SADC started when SA was under apartheid. SA joined latter by sending application letters.TZ never joined SADC, by we founded it.Remove TZ out of SADC,many members will pull out,and eventually the whole thing will collapse

Kazikazi:
SACU is a small thing.Even TZ can still say,Do you know East African community which is headquartered in TZ?

Don't just say a largest trading partner without giving details on the issue.Even TZ is the largest trading partner. And you aren't the biggest investor in Angola or DRC where real money is.

Countries will align with TZ for different reasons.E.g,

1.Mauritius will choose TZ because of her investments in TZ
2.Syschelles will go TZ way for historical reasons of military cooperations
3.Comoro will go TZ way because of sharing language,culture and strong ties.Its TZ which went to do military stuff there!
4.Zambia will go TZ way because of geographic location
5.DRC will choose TZ.You know the reasons
6.Angola will choose TZ. I think you know how we fought with them against SA in apartheid time.Angola,TZ was joined by cubans,while SA was supported by USA.
7.Malawi,Mozambique, & Zimbabwe can go either way.SA can only manage to have those tiny nations like Swazi and Lesotho.

Most nations will go TZ side mainly due to historical ties.SA investments can be replaced and sourced somewhere else,but that strong historical ties which TZ has can't be sourced anywhere else.A trust which TZ is getting from those nation is too strong for any xenophobic guy to try break it.

Mzal3ndo:

We export $707M while importing $400M from SA, how are our priorities wrong? We are developing better infrastructure and more industries so that we can export more to our neighbors, how are our priorities wrong?

TayserMahrii:


What are you saying son ? There's no connection between Kenya's loans (not debts, learn the difference) and oil market collapse. At the very least I expect you to know that the oil market collapse is a mega boon to us.