Spy360:
One thing is to be a legend, another is to have legendary status.
Henry became a statutory legend because he finished with us. Same cannot be said of someone like Ashley Cole for example.

Ronaldo can be a United legend, but he won't have the official status.

You are talking a rubbish. You are talking a nonesense my friend!

Which one be statutory legend Na statutory Hennessy vsop u go see.

Ashley Cole left arsenal in a controversial circumstance, nobody will ever regard him a legend.

Ronaldo is in no way a legend to man utd like he is to Madrid. Everybody knows this. His achievement at Madrid has overshadowed whatever he had achieved with man utd

Just accept Henry is Arsenal's All time highest goal scorer, he won the Golden shoe 4 Times, lifted the epl twice and the FA cup twice. That is what qualifies him to be a legend.

Not some mumbo jumbo about his return to the club on a six month loan spell as an old man.

Jodera:
lol...
Bitter truth

So you get the drift?

BlueRayDick:


You are talking a rubbish. You are talking a nonesense my friend!

Which one be statutory legend Na statutory Hennessy vsop u go see.

Ashley Cole left arsenal in a controversial circumstance, nobody will ever regard him a legend.

Ronaldo is in no way a legend to man utd like he is to Madrid. Everybody knows this. His achievement at Madrid has overshadowed whatever he had achieved with man utd

Just accept Henry is Arsenal's All time highest goal scorer, he won the Golden shoe 4 Times, lifted the epl twice and the FA cup twice. That is what qualifies him to be a legend.

Not some mumbo jumbo about his return to the club on a six montb loan spell as an old man.

Easy.

It's not about his return.

If you consider the circumstances in which he left, a lot of fans were already against him. His missed chances against Barça in the finals, plus the customised jersey Puyol gave him after the match. Fans easily could have forgotten all the achievements.

He could still have gotten his name in our record books but believe me, he would never have gotten that statue in front of Emirates Stadium.

Back to the point of argument, should Fabregas receive the same treatment as Henry?

Spy360:

You are having double views o. How is RVP different from Fabregas?

Both left at their peaks.

I'm not having double views. Why I won't blame any top player for leaving arsenal back then cos of how the mentality of the club is...I will sure blame Rvp. Why?
Roland, Blueray and Sod gave the perfect answer.
We stuck with him wen he needed us most, wen it's time to pay the loyalty, he handed over transfer request.

Spy360:

So you get the drift?

lol..what drift?
Nobody says fab is a legend, or should be crowned one.
What we said was, all those his speech he gave concerning his transfer away from arsenal are valid and true.
Most arsenal fans who are logical won't hold it against him.

Spy360:

Easy.

It's not about his return.

If you consider the circumstances in which he left, a lot of fans were already against him. His missed chances against Barça in the finals, plus the customised jersey Puyol gave him after the match. Fans easily could have forgotten all the achievements.

He could still have gotten his name in our record books but believe me, he would never have gotten that statue in front of Emirates Stadium.

Back to the point of argument, should Fabregas receive the same treatment as Henry?

Bros this is your post which I objected to:

"Henry left for Barca under similar circumstances but found a way to return to the club even scoring goals again and retiring here. That's what has qualified him as a legend"

U specifically said it was about his return. That was why I entred the discussion. That was the only reason I quoted u to disagree with that and let u know Henry was arguably our best player in modern day football. Nobody comes close to him based on what he achieved in his time at the club b4 joining barca.

I don't know why u are changing mouth.....maybe cos u agree Ur initial assertion maybe far from the truth sha. No wàhálà

Spy360:

Forgive me if my opinion doesn't tally with yours, just understand me.


Drogba gave the best part of his career to Chelsea. Coming back to finish there is a huge bonus.

Rooney gave his best part for United, he doesn't need to finish there, he has legendary status.

Fabregas left at his peak, he failed in his attempt to return back when he could still do things. He shouldn't expect us to rename London Colney after him.

Look at Arteta, came from Everton, gave us his peak career, left, came back to manage us in this trying times. He only needs a title to have his name besides Emirates.

Welcome to the Arteta Emirates Stadium

For Arteta it's true if he achieves something with us. He'll surely be crowned a legend.
I'm trying to understand you, but wen what you're saying is wrong, then I don't know how I'll understand you. Nobody, I mean, NOBODY, will agree with you (esp arsenal fans) that henry needed a 2nd coming to cement his legendary status

Wanna ask you a quick question
Would you call Vieira a legend or not?
Yes or No, I would want reason for you answer.

Spy360:
One thing is to be a legend, another is to have legendary status.
Henry became a statutory legend because he finished with us. Same cannot be said of someone like Ashley Cole for example.

Ronaldo can be a United legend, but he won't have the official status.

If I get you right...
Are you saying Ashley Cole is a legend, but doesn't have legendary status?
Lol...
Please, what's the difference between being a legend and having a legendary status?

BlueRayDick:


Bros this is your post which I objected to:

"Henry left for Barca under similar circumstances but found a way to return to the club even scoring goals again and retiring here. That's what has qualified him as a legend"

U specifically said it was about his return. That was why I entred the discussion. That was the only reason I quoted u to disagree with that and let u know Henry was arguably our best player in modern day football. Nobody comes close to him based on what he achieved in his time at the club b4 joining barca.

I don't know why u are changing mouth.....maybe cos u agree Ur initial assertion maybe far from the truth sha. No wàhálà

na dat him "Even scoring goals again" dey funny me.
Person wey hear am go think say him score at least 10goals in all competition that season

Jodera:
lol..what drift?
Nobody says fab is a legend, or should be crowned one.
What we said was, all those his speech he gave concerning his transfer away from arsenal are valid and true.
Most arsenal fans who are logical won't hold it against him.

I have stated before that I don't hold it against him. My point was why he raised the issue, if he wasn't considering fan's acceptance of him as a club legend?

He left. That matter is dead and buried. We have move on just as Roland17 opined.

Spy360:

Easy.

It's not about his return.

[/b]If you consider the circumstances in which he left, a lot of fans were already against him. His missed chances against Barça in the finals, plus the customised jersey Puyol gave him after the match. Fans easily could have forgotten all the achievements[b].

He could still have gotten his name in our record books but believe me, he would never have gotten that statue in front of Emirates Stadium.

Back to the point of argument, should Fabregas receive the same treatment as Henry?

Tbh, I don't see how the bolded would have stopped him from been a legend.
Haba bro....

To your question...
Why will fabregas receive same treatment as henry when he did not do half of what Henry did.
C'mon bro?

Jodera:
na dat him "Even scoring goals again" dey funny me.
Person wey hear am go think say him score at least 10goals in all competition that season

Don't mind spy. That was a gaffe on his part; saying Henry coming back cemented his lgedary status.

Like say Lampard was not already hero at Chelsea even when heater played for man city.

Jodera:
For Arteta it's true if he achieves something with us. He'll surely be crowned a legend.
I'm trying to understand you, but wen what you're saying is wrong, then I don't know how I'll understand you. Nobody, I mean, NOBODY, will agree with you (esp arsenal fans) that henry needed a 2nd coming to cement his legendary status

Wanna ask you a quick question
Would you call Vieira a legend or not?
Yes or No, I would want reason for you answer.

viera is a legend, the reason Ashley wasn't our legend was well explained by blueray.
Although, viera wasn't happy the way he was treated with his transfer to juventus but let's not forget he was also considered to replace Emery and if he wasn't our legend he may not be considered

Jodera:
If I get you right...
Are you saying Ashley Cole is a legend, but doesn't have legendary status?
Lol...
Please, what's the difference between being a legend and having a legendary status?

Lol, even me nor know.

Well, a statutory legend as it implies is one who is officially recognised by the club. Eg Tony Adams, Denis Bergkamp, Charlie Nicholas, David Seaman. I hope you know people are inducted into our Hall of Fame.

Ordinary legend in this context are those who just make up the record books.

BlueRayDick:


Bros this is your post which I objected to:

"Henry left for Barca under similar circumstances but found a way to return to the club even scoring goals again and retiring here. That's what has qualified him as a legend"

U specifically said it was about his return. That was why I entred the discussion. That was the only reason I quoted u to disagree with that and let u know Henry was arguably our best player in modern day football. Nobody comes close to him based on what he achieved in his time at the club b4 joining barca.

I don't know why u are changing mouth.....maybe cos u agree Ur initial assertion maybe far from the truth sha. No wàhálà

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Spy360:

I have stated before that I don't hold it against him. [/b]My point was why he raised the issue[b], if he wasn't considering fan's acceptance of him as a club legend?

He left. That matter is dead and buried. We have move on just as Roland17 opined.

why he raised the issue is the reason why he left. And even tho, it's not necessary, but it's the truth.
And the truth is what most arsenal fans have been saying for years. Poor team winning mentality, more average players than good ones and Failed transfer policy.
Tell me if there's no truth in what he said?

BlueRayDick:


Don't mind spy. That was a gaffe on his part; saying Henry coming back cemented his lgedary status.

Like say Lampard was not already hero at Chelsea even when heater played for man city.

I have explained that the circumstances in which Henry left COULD have affected his relationship with the club. It did for me. I wanted to hate him after that UCL finals. My love for him was rekindled when he returned and actually scored that Henrysiqued goal Vs Leeds in the FA cup. That game ended 1-0.

iamoyindamola:
viera is a legend, the reason Ashley wasn't our legend was well explained by blueray.
Although, viera wasn't happy the way he was treated with his transfer to juventus but let's not forget he was also considered to replace Emery and if he wasn't our legend he may not be considered

lol...
I wanted spy to answer it. After all, Vieira didn't do any 2nd coming.
And he left even at his peak, same situation as henry (tho he was eased off cos of fabregas)

BlueRayDick:


Don't mind spy. That was a gaffe on his part; saying Henry coming back cemented his lgedary status.

Like say Lampard was not already hero at Chelsea even when heater played for man city.

lol...
Even as lampard played for man city. I don't think he received any boos from Chelsea fan sef.

Spy360:

I have explained that the circumstances in which Henry left COULD have affected his relationship with the club. It did for me. I wanted to hate him after that UCL finals. My love for him was rekindled when he returned and actually scored that Henrysiqued goal Vs Leeds in the FA cup. That game ended 1-0.

Bros u could've have clearly said " For me ó, Henry won't be an arsenal legend if he didn't return and score some goals to appease my chi "



I get Ur point tho

Jodera:
lol...
Even as lampard played for man city. I don't think he received any boos from Chelsea fan sef.

Boo keh, he was applauded sef. Midfielder wey score pass Drogba wey be striker for chelsea.

Better player, Better Legend

Spy360:

Lol, even me nor know.

Well, a statutory legend as it implies is one who is officially recognised by the club. Eg Tony Adams, Denis Bergkamp, Charlie Nicholas, David Seaman. I hope you know people are inducted into our Hall of Fame.

Ordinary legend in this context are those who just make up the record books.

When you mean Statutory legend, do you mean the statue made for them?
I don't know about hall of fame.
But one thing I do know is, Pires, ljumberg, Vieira, Ian wright etc are all legends too.

Also, Ashley Cole is never a legend cos of the way he left arsenal. There is a reason he's called cashley Cole. Same way koscielny won't be called a legend too.

Jodera:
lol...
I wanted spy to answer it. After all, Vieira didn't do any 2nd coming.
And he left even at his peak, same situation as henry (tho he was eased off cos of fabregas)

Vieira gave the best part of his career to us, same as Lampard to Chelsea. Can you say same of Fabregas? In fact Fabregas made two attempts to leave before he succeeded. He had never hidden his connection for Barça. Arsenal was forced to insert a but back clause to his deal. This itself failed to materialise after his failure with his Barça dream.

BlueRayDick:


Boo keh, he was applauded sef. Midfielder wey score pass Drogba wey be striker for chelsea.

Better player, Better Legend

abi...
Correct better player

BlueRayDick:


Bros u could've have clearly said [/b]" For me ó, Henry won't be an arsenal legend if he didn't return and score some goals to appease my chi "[b]



I get Ur point tho

Abi o...
It would have been understandable

Jodera:
When you mean Statutory legend, do you mean the statue made for them?
I don't know about hall of fame.
But one thing I do know is, Pires, ljumberg, Vieira, Ian wright etc are all legends too.

Also, Ashley Cole is never a legend cos of the way he left arsenal. There is a reason he's called cashley Cole. Same way koscielny won't be called a legend too.

Google Arsenal FC museum, that's where you see statutory legends.

Spy360:

Vieira gave the best part of his career to us, same as Lampard to Chelsea. Can you say same of Fabregas? In fact Fabregas made two attempts to leave before he succeeded. He had never hidden his connection for Barça. Arsenal was forced to insert a but back clause to his deal. This itself failed to materialise after his failure with his Barça dream.

bro...
Seems you didn't get our opinion about fab from the onset.
We're just saying the reason he left was was the truth and it's valid.
Just like hazard, he's a Chelsea legend, but that doesn't erase the fact that he flirted with Madrid throughout his stay at Chelsea.
You think if Chelsea wasn't successful he wouldn't have hand in transfer request or left Chelsea b4 last year?
That's all what we're saying about fabregas. Not claiming he should come back to be a legend or not

Spy360:

Google Arsenal FC museum, that's where you see statutory legends.

OK ... I will

Jodera:
bro...
Seems you didn't get our opinion about fab from the onset.
We're just saying the reason he left was was the truth and it's valid.
Just like hazard, he's a Chelsea legend, but that doesn't erase the fact that he flirted with Madrid throughout his stay at Chelsea.
You think if Chelsea wasn't successful he wouldn't have hand in transfer request or left Chelsea b4 last year?
That's all what we're saying about fabregas. Not claiming he should come back to be a legend or not

I get you bro. I am only adding that 'what does he want now by raising the issue?

Spy360:

I get you bro. I am only adding that 'what does he want now by raising the issue?

lol...OK

Jodera:
lol...OK

Lol
Does he want us to preserve his boots since it was Wenger who drove him away?