do4luv14:



Whats your definition of a big club during Okocha playing time?

As in... PSG paid 14m for that guy as of 98...how long did it take a Nigerian to break that record?

andrewbaba44:


Moses Simon looks like our garba lawal now ,I don’t know if I am right thou

Not really, their contribution
not on the same par

andrewbaba44:


Lol

Okocha this okocha that ,to play for better club e no fit play ,some even Dey compare am with Ronaldinho

Someone is saying he won player of the month at Bolton and Mikel could not do so at Chelsea ,can you help me tell them that playing for Bolton and Chelsea should not be in the same sentence ?

A defensive midfielder will hardly win player of the month in a start studded team

lol

na our way!

somehow:


Its because we Nigerians like showboating and flashy stuffs, so anyone that can dribble becomes our fave!

Hit the nail directly on the head.

End product is not the paramount consideration in Nigerian football.

Danielnino00:
Using the following criteria:
1) Performance at national team level (super Eagles only)

2) performance at club level

3) individual accolades won

Comply a list of the 5 greatest Nigerian players of all time...

I'll go first

1) Nwankwo Kanu
2) Jay Jay Okocha
3) Rashid Yekini
4) John Mikel Obi
5) Vincent Enyeama.

Let's go there... Safarigirl, Andrewbaba444, icon4s darkelf/blueelf tbaba1234 Odunayaw Thesupernerd Chriskels Enomakos Bascovanveli Chrisooblog do4luv14, Joebi Komekn Thegoodjoe daveP and other distinguished members of the thread....

1. Rashidi yekini
2. John Mikel Obi
3. Victor Ikpeba
4. Jjay Okocha
5. Kanu nwankwo

Leave am, make him dey mis-yarn, after all no be Andrew again,

we sabi am here nah

edi287:

As in... PSG paid 14m for that guy as of 98...how long did it take a Nigerian to break that record?

Oshare how you see our state govt and his handling of this covid and sit at home

komekn:



1. Rashidi yekini
2. John Mikel Obi
3. Victor Ikpeba
4. Jjay Okocha
5. Kanu nwankwo

somehow:


Not really, their contribution
not on the same par

Hmmm

Okay bro

edi287:

I don't think Okocha is on Maradona level but to put Mikel ahead of him is disrespectful.
Okocha was the most expensive African player during his time(£14m at 98 is a big deal).
Dude had a better WC than Mikel did.
What stopped Mikel from playing for "average" teams when he wasn't a cemented first 11 player?
Did being a DM stop Kante from getting nominated and winning PFA player of the year? I repeat Okocha had a better career than Mikel.
The only reason id even put Kanu ahead of Okocha is because he was great in his first season at Arsenal.
If not, how many seasons was Kanu a regular first 11 player for Arsenal?

Better World Cup than Mikel ,did he win the World Cup ?

Lol ,did he past the round of 16 which is our usual last Bustop ?

What do you mean by a better World Cup ,don’t make it look like okocha took Nigeria to the semi final ogbeni,I need sincere arguement bro and not beer parlour own

Kanu is ahead of okocha ,stop telling me about his first season in arsenal ,Kanu has won African player of the year twice and your okocha has won none ,I guess the 1996 African player of the year Kanu won was his first season at arsenal ,remove sentiment pls

Trust me okocha will play to achieve what Mikel has achieve

Leicester won the league ,and yes Kanté deserved it ,but why is the great Busquets yet to win barca player of the month or laliga player of the year seems you wanna judge by that ?

Okocha dribbles don take over una head

Jay jay didn’t win African player of the year ,deal with that and stop lookin for excuses

edi287:

Thabo Mbeki was a better president than anything we've had in naija(you could argue obj but I don't think so).

I agree with you

the best we have had since I started following politics was even Obj, also to an extent Yaradua and Good luck for the electoral reforms and independence of electoral institutions unlike what we have now

andrewbaba44:


Better World Cup than Mikel ,did he win the World Cup ?

Lol ,did he past the round of 16 which is our usual last Bustop ?

What do you mean by a better World Cup ,don’t make it look like okocha took Nigeria to the semi final ogbeni,I need sincere arguement bro and not beer parlour own

Kanu is ahead of okocha ,stop telling me about his first season in arsenal ,Kanu has won African player of the year twice and your okocha has won none ,I guess the 1996 African player of the year Kanu won was his first season at arsenal ,remove sentiment pls

Trust me okocha will play to achieve what Mikel has achieve

Leicester won the league ,and yes Kanté deserved it ,but why is the great Busquets yet to win barca player of the month or laliga player of the year seems you wanna judge by that ?

Okocha dribbles don take over una head

Jay jay didn’t win African player of the year ,deal with that and stop lookin for excuses

Okocha performance at France 98 and heck even 02 > Mikel at WC 18
Okocha 00, 04 AFCON > Mikel 13.
Lool Okocha was apparently an "unproductive" player yet dude scored 30 in 62 games when he was at Turkey?
Kanu won AFPOTY based on Atlanta 96 and his first season at Arsenal. Dude barely did jack afterwards and was mostly a benchwarmer... That is a fact!
Busquets is a first team regular and made numerous team of the seasons. How many did Mikel make while he was at Chelsea?
Okocha >>> Mikel. This should not be up for debate.
Mikel and Kanu never one even one MVP award at AFCON for SE. Okocha made 2 AFCON teams of the tournament. Kanu had zero. Mikel had one.
Abegi!!
Respect Jay Jay!!

edi287:

Okocha performance at France 98 and heck even 02 > Mikel at WC 18
Okocha 00, 04 AFCON > Mikel 13.
Lool Okocha was apparently an "unproductive" player yet dude scored 30 in 62 games when he was at Turkey?
Kanu won AFPOTY based on Atlanta 96 and his first season at Arsenal. Dude barely did jack afterwards and was mostly a benchwarmer... That is a fact!
Busquets is a first team regular and made numerous team of the seasons. How many did Mikel make while he was at Chelsea?
Okocha >>> Mikel. This should not be up for debate.
Mikel and Kanu never one even one MVP award at AFCON for SE. Okocha made 2 AFCON teams of the tournament. Kanu had zero. Mikel had one.
Abegi!!
Respect Jay Jay!!

Okocha didn’t achieve anything ,simple

Mikel was a DM ,I am not comparing his play with okocha but his achievement

I repeat your okocha didn’t achieve anything

Why are you speaking of national team football only ,you ain’t speaking of club football ,maybe you know your jay jay was a failure there

Your okocha was making team of the tournament but he can’t win common African player of the year ,make una let person hear word with okocha this and that ,someone that can’t even play top flight football at 32

Did your okocha made numerous team of the season in the epl ,who dash monkey banana ?

Okocha didn’t win African player of the year and king Kanu won it not just once but twice

We saw Mikel winning the 2013 afcon and was also instrumental with a very average eagles

Was your okocha insutrumental in the 1994 afcon dad Mikel was in 2013 ? Lol

All this una okocha talk and hype was dead long ago ,naija football fans don open eye Abeg

El hadji diouf won the African player of the year playin for a bang average lens and having a better 2002 World Cup ,your okocha that you said have a better World Cup could not even win anyone ,even with a better psg side

Danielnino00:
Using the following criteria:
1) Performance at national team level (super Eagles only)

2) performance at club level

3) individual accolades won

Comply a list of the 5 greatest Nigerian players of all time...

I'll go first

1) Nwankwo Kanu
2) Jay Jay Okocha
3) Rashid Yekini
4) John Mikel Obi
5) Vincent Enyeama.

Let's go there... Safarigirl, Andrewbaba444, icon4s darkelf/blueelf tbaba1234 Odunayaw Thesupernerd Chriskels Enomakos Bascovanveli Chrisooblog do4luv14, Joebi Komekn Thegoodjoe daveP and other distinguished members of the thread....

1. Yekini
2. Kanu
3. Okocha
4. Mikel
5. Enyeama.
Enyeama was the most consistent at club level out of them all.
Kanu is second place only because of his 2 AFPOTY(one of it he earned due to his performance at an age grade Tourney). We need to be honest and admit he didn't really do ish for SE outside save for a few flashes of brilliance.

edi287:

1. Yekini
2. Kanu
3. Okocha
4. Mikel
5. Enyeama.
Enyeama was the most consistent at club level out of them all.
Kanu is second place only because of his 2 AFPOTY(one of it he earned due to his performance at an age grade Tourney). We need to be honest and admit he didn't really do ish for SE outside save for a few flashes of brilliance.

Okocha should be first please

andrewbaba44:


Okocha didn’t achieve anything ,simple

Mikel was a DM ,I am not comparing his play with okocha but his achievement

I repeat your okocha didn’t achieve anything

Why are you speaking of national team football only ,you ain’t speaking of club football ,maybe you know your jay jay was a failure there

Your okocha was making team of the tournament but he can’t win common African player of the year ,make una let person hear word with okocha this and that ,someone that can’t even play top flight football at 32

Did your okocha made numerous team of the season in the epl ,who dash monkey banana ?

Okocha didn’t win African player of the year and king Kanu won it not just once but twice

We saw Mikel winning the 2013 afcon and was also instrumental with a very average eagles

Was your okocha insutrumental in the 1994 afcon dad Mikel was in 2013 ? Lol

All this una okocha talk and hype was dead long ago ,naija football fans don open eye Abeg

Mikel didn't achieve anything individually at club football. Stop giving the excuse he was a DM.
Apart from the season under Ancelotti - tell me a season where we can Mikel consistently played close to a world class level?
Don't even get me started with Kanu sef.
Okocha came when he was past his peak and gof nominated for PFA player of the season in HIS FIRST season - something Kanu no been ever smell yet Kanu achieved more at club level individually but Okocha didn't?
31 year old Okocha had more impact at Bolton than Kanu did at Portsmouth and West Brom. Fact!
Kanu was not a starter at Ajax. Fact!
Okocha was the most expensive African player in 98. Kanu wasn't. Fact!
Heck do you Okocha as a midfielder had a better goal ratio in Turkey than Kanu did as an attacker in Ajax?
Again - Respect Okocha!!

andrewbaba44:


Okocha should be first please

Yekini is only player that's better than him on there.
Your Mikel and Kanu best moments came at under age football.
Prove me wrong.

edi287:

Yekini is only player that's better than him on there.
Your Mikel and Kanu best moments came at under age football.
Prove me wrong.

Yeah and they won trophies your jay jay could never win

And they also play for better clubs your jay jay could only dream of

edi287:

Mikel didn't achieve anything individually at club football. Stop giving the excuse he was a DM.
Apart from the season under Ancelotti - tell me a season where we can Mikel consistently played close to a world class level?
Don't even get me started with Kanu sef.
Okocha came when he was past his peak and gof nominated for PFA player of the season in HIS FIRST season - something Kanu no been ever smell yet Kanu achieved more at club level individually but Okocha didn't?
31 year old Okocha had more impact at Bolton than Kanu did at Portsmouth and West Brom. Fact!
Kanu was not a starter at Ajax. Fact!
Okocha was the most expensive African player in 98. Kanu wasn't. Fact!
Heck do you Okocha as a midfielder had a better goal ratio in Turkey than Kanu did as an attacker in Ajax?
Again - Respect Okocha!!

Lol

Funny as usual

andrewbaba44:


Yeah and they won trophies your jay jay could never win

And they also play for better clubs your jay jay could only dream of

Yeah as squad players. Why didn't Kanu take West Brom to Ucl football since Okocha is overrated because he played at Bolton?
Both played together at NT yet Okocha kept outshone him. Why?

somehow:


Its because we Nigerians like showboating and flashy stuffs, so anyone that can dribble becomes our fave!

Okocha that was all about "showboating" - 30 in 62 games AS a midfielder.
Kanu that played "serious" football never had a goal in 2 games ratio at any point in club level.

edi287:

Yeah as squad players. Why didn't Kanu take West Brom to Ucl football since Okocha is overrated because he played at Bolton?
Both played together at NT yet Okocha kept outshone him. Why?

Lol as squad players ,find another excuse

Same Mikel was instrumental in Chelsea champions league win ,and was regular then

Why didn’t jay jay play for better clubs ?

Lol he said why didn’t Kanu take west brom to UCL football

Why didn’t okocha play for a team that plays ucl football regularly? Should I remind you Kanu is a champions league winner ?

What has your jay jay won ? Nothing

Obi Mikel average 25 epl games per season and you are calling him a squad player

Even yakubu aiyegbeni and Joseph Yobo was more popular in the epl than your jay jay

andrewbaba44:


Lol as squad players ,find another excuse

Same Mikel was instrumental in Chelsea champions league win ,and was regular then

Why didn’t jay jay play for better clubs ?

Lol he said why didn’t Kanu take west brom to UCL football

Why didn’t okocha play for a team that plays ucl football regularly? Should I remind you Kanu is a champions league winner ?

What has your jay jay won ? Nothing

Obi Mikel average 25 epl games per season and you are calling him a squad player

Even yakubu aiyegbeni and Joseph Yobo was more popular in the epl than your jay jay

Stop lying... Mikel WAS NOT A REGULAR the season Chelsea won the ucl. He had a MOTM performance in the final true, but he was not a regular that league season.
He started the most games the season under Ancelotti.
At least Yak and Yobo scored goals and were regulars for their team unlike your Mikel
Respect Okocha!!

Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United are interested in Osimhen

In my own opinion Man U is the best option for him because they play counter attacking football

Chelsea would be good for him tho because they have good crosses, but he would have to battle it with Tammy Abraham and Lampard may use his English bias to favour Abraham

Arsenal is the least suitable club for him because they play a possession based style which does not suit his strength.

edi287:

Okocha that was all about "showboating" - 30 in 62 games AS a midfielder.
Kanu that played "serious" football never had a goal in 2 games ratio at any point in club level.

I don't rate players by goals but by impact

edi287:

Stop lying... Mikel WAS NOT A REGULAR the season Chelsea won the ucl. He had a MOTM performance in the final true, but he was not a regular that league season.
He started the most games the season under Ancelotti.
At least Yak and Yobo scored goals and were regulars for their team unlike your Mikel
Respect Okocha!!

What you just showed there is the stats of a regular player so you dissed your self ,there are some little times obi was injured

Mikel job is not to score goals ,so you are wastin your time dissing him with goals

Joseph Yobo is a goal scoring defender ,you can’t use Yobo to diss Mikel

Even Sergio Ramos have scored more goals than Iniesta and even Xavi ,that’s doesn’t make them not great

You can also go and diss the great makelele who doesn’t score also

Jay jay didn’t achieve anything in football

Even Kanu helped bang porthsmouth to win the fa cup

A John utaka helped a bang average montepieller to win the French league

What did your jay jay win in club football ? You will dodge this and go to national team ,he won the afcon and so do Mikel

Oh sorry jay jay also won the 1996 olympics but Kanu collected the glory so you won’t be interested

I guess Kanu was the best player then

somehow:


I don't rate players by goals but by impact

Excuses. You just said Nigerians focus on showing boating and i showed Okocha was more than dribbling, now una dey claim impact.
Club and national level - Okocha > Mikel in terms of impact.

edi287:

Excuses. You just said Nigerians focus on showing boating and i showed Okocha was more than dribbling, now una dey claim impact.
Club and national level - Okocha > Mikel in terms of impact.

But okocha and Mikel doesn’t play the same positions nah ,why you come Dey bring goals nah ?

Like seriously you ran out of what to say ba

Mikel is a Dm in 99 percent of his career

andrewbaba44:


What you just showed there is the stats of a regular player so you dissed your self ,there are some little times obi was injured

Mikel job is not to score goals ,so you are wastin your time dissing him with goals

Joseph Yobo is a goal scoring defender ,you can’t use Yobo to diss Mikel

Even Sergio Ramos have scored more goals than Iniesta and even Xavi ,that’s doesn’t make them not great

You can also go and diss the great makelele who doesn’t score also

Jay jay didn’t achieve anything in football

Even Kanu helped bang porthsmouth to win the fa cup

A John utaka helped a bang average montepieller to win the French league

What did your jay jay win in club football ? You will dodge this and go to national team ,he won the afcon and so do Mikel

Mikel was barely a regular at Chelsea. Why are you lying?
Utaka helped a bang average wetin?? Now i know you are a comedian. Giroud, Belhanda and that their CB were making contributions yet you want to sneak Utaka's name to prove a lame point. Na wa.
Mikel was a squaddie 80 percent of the time.
Okocha > Mikel. Respect Okocha!!

andrewbaba44:


But okocha and Mikel doesn’t play the same positions nah ,why you come Dey bring goals nah ?

Like seriously you ran out of what to say ba

Mikel is a Dm in 99 percent of his career

Because people have been pushing this point that all Okocha did was dribble when statistically his numbers for an attacking midfielder wasn't bad at all.
Someone who had a better goal ratio than "GOAT" Kanu is being accused of merely being an entertainer? Smh

edi287:

Because people have been pushing this point that all Okocha did was dribble when statistically his numbers for an attacking midfielder wasn't bad at all.
Someone who had a better goal ratio than "GOAT" Kanu is being accused of merely being an entertainer? Smh

Despite me picking Kanu ahead of okocha ,did you even see me praise his eagles career apart from that Olympic

I am putting Kanu ahead of him overall because you can’t put away club football from our arguement

Concerning okocha goals ,his goals are very okay for a central midfielder

edi287:

Mikel was barely a regular at Chelsea. Why are you lying?
Utaka helped a bang average wetin?? Now i know you are a comedian. Giroud, Belhanda and that their CB were making contributions yet you want to sneak Utaka's name to prove a lame point. Na wa.
Mikel was a squaddie 80 percent of the time.
Okocha > Mikel. Respect Okocha!!

Oga none of Giroud or belhanda where above average then Abeg ,this is a season I followed and utaka was instrumental and so do Giroud and co ,but none of them where more than average players

You callled my point a lame point ,are you not the same person that said why didn’t Kanu take west brom to the champions league ,what is more lame than that ? Then I gave you my point of utaka helping and an average montepieller winning the French league and you call it lame ?