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The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by ContractKiller: 9:43pm On Apr 04, 2020

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Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by AntiChristian: 7:47am On Apr 05, 2020
grin Na Jehovah inspire this?

From the biblical curse generator.

She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 NIV

You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. . . . The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head. Deuteronomy 28:30-31,35
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by AntiChristian: 7:51am On Apr 05, 2020
No wonder your old testament is useless!
Of what importance are these useless laws?

All from Yahweh!

When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. Leviticus 15: 19-20

When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by AntiChristian: 7:57am On Apr 05, 2020
God has temper issues!

Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV

Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-22 NIV
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by OtemAtum: 8:02am On Apr 05, 2020
See Christians and Muslims fighting grin
Jehovah and Allah the prisoners are having their followers fighting each other grin
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Apr 05, 2020
AntiChristian:
No wonder your old testament is useless!
Of what importance are these useless laws?

All from Yahweh!

When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. Leviticus 15: 19-20

When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
No, no, no, no, no, my loving, dear and beloved AntiChristian Muslim brother, lol, not all from Yahweh.

I guess you didn't get the memo, thats why you dont know that Moses wrote those instructions for them just as he did others like this all because of the hardness of heart of the Israelites
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 8:04am On Apr 05, 2020
OtemAtum:
See Christians and Muslims fighting grin
Jehovah and Allah the prisoners are having their followers fighting each other grin
Its not fighting per se, but that darkness has no choice, except to disappear when light turns up and/or on
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by AntiChristian: 8:06am On Apr 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
No, no, no, no, no, my loving, dear and beloved AntiChristian Muslim brother, lol, not all from Yahweh.

I guess you didn't get the memo, thats why you dont know that Moses wrote those instructions for them just as he did others like this all because of the hardness of heart of the Israelites

So your Moses was not inspired by Jehovah anymore? He was on free mode abi?
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 8:18am On Apr 05, 2020
AntiChristian:
So your Moses was not inspired by Jehovah anymore? He was on free mode abi?
I am just the messenger, telling you what Jesus said concerning how such instructions like the ones you mischievously raised and highlighted, came about.

You my loving, dear and beloved Muslim brothers, should cultivate the habit of coimg out more often with things like this, so you could get some biblical schooling to erase your ignorances, deficiencies and lack of correct understanding of biblical knowledge

Look at how you miserably failed in grasping and understanding that prophet Elisha narrative. One, he was a natural bald. Two, they were ordinary boys, they were teenagers young prophets in training men. Three, if you understood what historically Bethel is, you know that it is odd they are trying to drive away a prophet of God from such a place that has strong history link with God. Four, the animals attacking, is something from Leviticus 26:21-22 and Deuteronomy 32:1 & 24, that they agreed and entered a contract into

As about the "May you never bear fruit again!", this is a lesson taught to sink in the message that fruitlessness leads to judgment. Stop displaying foliage pretending that you are in season and bearing fruit, when you arent. Dont deceive by appearances, when in reality, nothing is there because the end of it will be damnation, just as what happened to the fig tree

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Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by OtemAtum: 8:22am On Apr 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Its not fighting per se, but that darkness has no choice, except to disappear when light turns up and/or on
Which is darkness aand which is light here. I'm only seeing two darknesses here. cheesy
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 8:48am On Apr 05, 2020
OtemAtum:
Which is darkness aand which is light here. I'm only seeing two darknesses here. cheesy
I am not surprised you are only seeing two darknesses in there because for someone like you, who is in the dark, you are lost, so far way too much in deep inside the darkness, that the light is going to be harsh to and/or on your eyes, and so rendering you incapable of seeing the light, lol. Pẹẹlẹ. Ndo. Sorry

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Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by OtemAtum: 4:48pm On Apr 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I am not surprised you are only seeing two darknesses in there because for someone like you, who is in the dark, you are lost, so far way too much in deep inside the darkness, that the light is going to be harsh to and/or on your eyes, and so rendering you incapable of seeing the light, lol. Pẹẹlẹ. Ndo. Sorry
So which of the darknesses is light? grin
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 5:59pm On Apr 05, 2020
OtemAtum:
So which of the darknesses is light? grin
"And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."
- John 1:5

"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world,
but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
"
- John 3:19

Even if you havent yet seen the Atlantic/Pacific ocean before, you would have at least once in your life, tasted salt nah before

It is only any whose works are evil, deeds are evil and/or actions are evil who would be unable to comprehend Light
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by OtemAtum: 6:17pm On Apr 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."
- John 1:5

"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world,
but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
"
- John 3:19

Even if you havent yet seen the Atlantic/Pacific ocean before, you would have at least once in your life, tasted salt nah before

It is only any whose works are evil, deeds are evil and/or actions are evil who would be unable to comprehend Light

You've not answered the question: Christianity or Islam, which one is light, which is darkness?
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by MuttleyLaff: 6:24pm On Apr 05, 2020
OtemAtum:
You've not answered the question: Christianity or Islam, which one is light, which is darkness?
Neither
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by OtemAtum: 6:28pm On Apr 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Neither
Ok
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by Kobojunkie: 3:27pm On May 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
God has temper issues!

Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV

Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-22 NIV
When reading scripture , it is important to pay attention to context or you miss God's message. undecided

Now to the case of Elisha and the 42 boys, there is a context to that story you conveniently ignore. Before Elisha was established as prophet, many of God's prophet's in the land had been hunted down and murdered by the people who had mostly turned to idol worshipping. The few remaining prophets went into hiding , some thanks to Obadiah. Elijah, a major prophet at the time panicked and ran for his life for fear that he was next but in 1 kings 19, we read of how God sent him back so he could annoint those he had chosen to resolve the problem, this after So many of His prophets had been used for target practice. undecided

So in 2 Kings 2, the killings have ended, King Ahab and his wife Jezebel out of the picture, Elijah replaced by Elisha as the major prophet. Now Elisha is written to have been followed out of the city of Bethel by a group of about 42 boys, all of them mocking them and posing a possible threat, this in the same land that only recently made target practice out of prophets. Elisha couldn't dial 911, so He did the best thing which was call in the God who only recently installed him as a prophet. And God responded with a vengeance sending a message to all in the land that He would not tolerate a repeat of recent events. And His message was clearly received in all of Israel too because at no other time is it written, after that, that God's prophet's were rounded up and massacre in similar manner by the people of Israel. undecided
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by AntiChristian: 8:28am On May 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
When reading scripture , it is important to pay attention to context or you miss God's message. undecided

Now to the case of Elisha and the 42 boys, there is a context to that story you conveniently ignore. Before Elisha was established as prophet, many of God's prophet's in the land had been hunted down and murdered by the people who had mostly turned to idol worshipping. The few remaining prophets went into hiding , some thanks to Obadiah. Elijah, a major prophet at the time panicked and ran for his life for fear that he was next but in 1 kings 19, we read of how God sent him back so he could annoint those he had chosen to resolve the problem, this after So many of His prophets had been used for target practice. undecided

So in 2 Kings 2, the killings have ended, King Ahab and his wife Jezebel out of the picture, Elijah replaced by Elisha as the major prophet. Now Elisha is written to have been followed out of the city of Bethel by a group of about 42 boys, all of them mocking them and posing a possible threat, this in the same land that only recently made target practice out of prophets. Elisha couldn't dial 911, so He did the best thing which was call in the God who only recently installed him as a prophet. And God responded with a vengeance sending a message to all in the land that He would not tolerate a repeat of recent events. And His message was clearly received in all of Israel too because at no other time is it written, after that, that God's prophet's were rounded up and massacre in similar manner by the people of Israel. undecided

I see you as rather a more logical person than this. The 42 boys were kids not adults! If a MOG tells his congregation not to question/abuse his authority with this verse you'll be one of those to speak of context.

On one mouth your LORD is a forgiving God!
On the other hand He destroys!
You put emphasis on the former and subdue the latter!

Was Jesus not abused than that? Which of the Prophets wasn't abused? Noah? Moses? Abraham? Even till Muhammad you are abusing till now?

Leviticus 24
13 And the Lord said to Moses,

14 Bring him who has cursed out of the camp, and let all who heard him lay their hands upon his head; then let all the congregation stone him.

15 And you shall say to the Israelites, Whoever curses his God shall bear his sin.

16 And he who blasphemes the Name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him; the stranger as well as he who was born in the land shall be put to death when he blasphemes the Name [of the Lord].
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by Kobojunkie: 2:03pm On May 17, 2022
AntiChristian:
1. I see you as rather a more logical person than this. The 42 boys were kids not adults! If a MOG tells his congregation not to question/abuse his authority with this verse you'll be one of those to speak of context.

2. On one mouth your LORD is a forgiving God! On the other hand He destroys! You put emphasis on the former and subdue the latter!

3. Was Jesus not abused than that? Which of the Prophets wasn't abused? Noah? Moses? Abraham? Even till Muhammad you are abusing till now?

Leviticus 24
13 And the Lord said to Moses,

14 Bring him who has cursed out of the camp, and let all who heard him lay their hands upon his head; then let all the congregation stone him.

15 And you shall say to the Israelites, Whoever curses his God shall bear his sin.

16 And he who blasphemes the Name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him; the stranger as well as he who was born in the land shall be put to death when he blasphemes the Name [of the Lord].
I am sorry what? undecided

1a. The story writer never said Elisha felt insulted by the boys and as a result of the insults asked God for help, so let's try not to jump to conclusions there. Instead, from the context, what we are told is that until recently times, the people had taken to murdering prophets, and Elisha rightly asked God for help when a bunch of kids trailed him outside of the city, throwing insults at him. undecided

1b. Jesus Christ, the one who is God over Christians, said that it was not sin for anyone to insult Him or His Father directly, so do you think those you call mogs are operating according to Jesus Christ or their own petty ego's when they pretend themselves better than Jesus Christ? undecided

2. What the heck do you mean by "let's put emphasis on the former and subdue the latter"? Are you saying that men should reduce God to an image that is lesser than He is? undecided

Again, God shows mercy to those whom He will show mercy to, and destroys those whom He chooses to destroy and for His own reasons. He is both a merciful God and also a God of wrath. undecided

Nowhere in the narrative are we informed that God infact chose to destroy those boys because of them telling Elisha to get out . However, from paying attention to the context created by the writer, we can see that they were likely made an example of by God, this considering His prophets had up until that time been hunted and killed by His people. His message was received all throughout the land, it seems since at no other point in the history of Israel were God's prophets hunted and killed in that manner again. undecided

Also, at no point in time did God ever pretend His prophets above or equal to Him in stature. Elijah, Elisha predecessor was reminded of this by God Himself in 1 King 19 undecided

3. Pay attention to the details of the Jewish Law you keep quoting! undecided

No man is God in the land of Israel and so no God never gave law that those who insult his servants deserve death. undecided
Re: The Return Of History's Greatest Criminal Vol. 2 by Kobojunkie: 12:42am On Jul 22, 2022
Was reading through old comments and found a major error in my statement, so seeking to correct this misinformation. AntiChristian, it is forgivable sin to insult God and Jesus Christ, but not blasphemous to do so. What's even more important to note about this rule, and every other rule set forth by Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, is that it only applies as far as those who belong in the Kingdom of God which is ruled over by Him. What this means is unbelievers are not judged under His Law and so do not sin against Him when they insult Him or God. undecided

In much the same way the Old Covenant Law of Moses only judges those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, so also, Jesus Christ, judges only those who are of Jesus Christ's flock, those who are of His Kingdom. undecided

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