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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:05am On Apr 07, 2020 |
Coronavirus deaths are spiking at an alarming rate in Democrat controlled areas, Michigan and New Jersey are shaping up to become the next Democrat run coronavirus clusterfuck states after New York. Also keep an eye on illinois in the coming weeks, that state is being run by one of the most clueless jokers I have ever seen. From the current trajectory, Democrats controlled states could be accounting for more than 90% of coronavirus deaths in the US by the end of this week. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 8:12am On Apr 07, 2020 |
1.No idea is too insane for Democrats and at this rate Democrats will soon sew brown shirts for their supporters like during nazi era. It was nazi that required Id badges pin to their clothes, the same thing Democrats are proposing here. 2. Q promise 3. The people Fauci is working for 4. Central park tunnels finally saw light through it 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:22am On Apr 07, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Please share the lab tests where success rate of Hydroxychloroquine in treating coronavirus is 80%. If success rate is 80%, why is the fatality rate still very high? Why do thousands of people die each day? More importantly, why haven't British doctors rushed hydroxychloroquine to Boris Johnson, he is in critical condition, and his conservative party would not want him to die in order to spite Trump. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 8:24am On Apr 07, 2020 |
I quote any damn bittchh I want here, and there's nothing you can do about it! [author=GalaticHorde post=88176410]Mr , Mrs or whatever you are, please don't quote me again! I am happy to indulge in exchanges with logical people, not batshit crazy ones] 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 8:33am On Apr 07, 2020 |
Which part are you not getting that doctors who are using Hydroxy chloroquine are not losing patients and that the ones who are not getting the medicines are the ones dying? Why do you think Cuomo is refusing to give the medicines Trump sent to him to the pharmacies so doctors can prescribe? Doctors are complaining that the pharmacies are out of the drugs and Cuomo wants people to come to the hospitals to get the medicines so they can be exposed to more danger. Cuomo just wants to kill people. If hospitals are packed like loony democrats are saying, why do you want more people to come just for medicines that can be gotten from pharmacies. wirinet: 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:37am On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:I never said 80% success rate in lab, I said on patients which I’ve shared the numbers here before. You read to reply and not to understand 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 8:58am On Apr 07, 2020 |
I dey go sleep!
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:56am On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:Oh my God!! How many times will the results be shared on this thread before you stop asking for it to be posted again? Something that has been shared over and over again by at least three different people on the forum and you even commented and debated about it when it was posted. As for BoJo, the choice is his, Britain is one of the countries that have refused to give Chloroquine a trial so I won't be surprised if their situation becomes as terrible as italy and Spain. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:28am On Apr 07, 2020 |
garetz: I hope this is not the results you are talking about; Doctors in France will now be able to treat COVID-19 patients after Didier Raoult, a renowned physician who specializes in infectious diseases, announced a new clinical trial’s results. According to that, 78 out of 80 coronavirus patients recovered within 5 days after being treated with chloroquine- which is considerably quicker than the usual 14 days. For some COVID-19 patients, it can take up to 28 days to recover, if at all they did. because even a secondary school science students cannot present a mere unverified claim as a test results . Where have you ever seen a clinical trial consisting of only 80 test subjects by one doctor with no control and no actual report. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:38am On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:For sake of this argument let’s assume 1 test, being 1 test doesn’t make it invalid. It only means more tests need to be done to verify claims. Even the FDA hasn’t ruled out the possibility they are only saying more tests need to be done. The fact that something is yet to be pronounced valid by a body does not necessarily make it invalid! However more doctors have prescribed it and have recorded success. Nobody has died as records have shown due to chloroquine prescription for Covid. Once again what’s there to lose since there isn’t better alternative at the moment. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:52am On Apr 07, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy:You guys don't know how scientific claims work, it is different from religious claims. You make an hypothesis and back up your claims with verifiable data. You must also published your findings in a scientific journal, so every one can understand how and why it works. If you open a simple chloroquine pack for the treatment of malaria, it will contain a leaflet detailing how the drug kills the malaria parasite, it will provide details on which enzymes or properties of the parasite it attacks. Same with other antibacterial and antivirus drugs. Even HIV drugs will explain how it stops the virus from further replicating. This case is just like a traditional medicine man that claims he cured staphylococcus with "agbo" and believe me, there are hundreds of such claims. We hear how many people he has cured without any reports or scientific basis. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:06pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:I have attached some files for u to read, if you still do not understand what I’m saying that’s your problem not mine.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 12:07pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:So a clinical trial conducted by a world renowned physician who specializes in infectious diseases is not good enough for you? GTFOH!!! 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:15pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
garetz:I’m tired of these people I swear cos I don’t even understand how they think, we are talking real situation they are talking ideal situation. In a pandemic killing thousands daily we should wait at least 12 to 18 months for an approved cure. How many people will be left on earth by then? This chloroquine has been approved for use in China as far back as February. Trump mentioned it in March and they are making it seem he just said it as a guess, falling over each other while at it. I repeat Trump wouldn’t have announced that without an expert advice, it could even be based on the intel from China. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 12:17pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
wirinet:Just shut the hell up!!! What do you know about science? One of France's top most infectious diseases specialist conducted a scientific clinical trials that produced the results that made the French government to approve chloroquine for use against the coronavirus but you belittle him and continue to spew liberal propagandists bullshit yet you want to talk about science? This is your Democrat Gov. Andrew Cuomo asking federal government to increase hydroxychloroquine supply because there is evidence that it appears to be working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFThng_2bs Liberal bullshit propaganda hasn't saved a single life, chloroquine has saved many and will continue to save many. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:22pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
garetz:I can only wish he bags this virus so that while gnashing his teeth in pain and he’s offered chloroquine he tells the doctor to wait 18 months for full approval. After all success in China, France and some parts of US count for nothing. Retards. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:28pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Seriously?! That's your proof?! 'One study said' ?! Who conducted the study? In what year was the study conducted? Who sponsored the study? What was the hypothesis of the study? What was the motivation of the study? How was the study carried out, in other words what was the procedure of the study? How many participants took part in the tests? How diverse were the participants? (For accurate studies, participants have to be from different races, live different lifestyles etc)? Were certain things noticed among a certain group of participants? A good study needs to provide answers to these questions! Saying 'a study said' proves absolutely nothing! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 1:09pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Everybody knows trump is very orthodox,he likes fire brigade approach.he doesn't like to obey or follow constituted channels but am with him on this...no leader want to have this kind of situation to continue unabated because the more it grows the more it damages his reputation.he has said before that africa seems to be doing well managing this pandemic because they are used to taken chloroquine to treat certain diseases so he just said it may as well be what they need here too but he shouldn't have said what do you have to lose.i understand the frustration of medical experts too in recommending a drug that has not been through clinical trial.thats not how they work. At the end,both voices want positive results but the ways and means they want it are not the same. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 1:24pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
wowcatty:Some of you are mere propaganda tools.what is rigging in america??.do you have any proofs to this claim?. Is it only democrat states they dont enforce the use of ID to vote??. Why won't you guys just shut the Bleep off and stop ranting what you dont know?. The other day someone was accusing the Wisconsin governor of risking the lives of his citizens by not postponing the election in his state meanwhile it's the Republican controlled house that opposed it and even took the governor to court up to supreme court. When will you people realise not all people are just dumb as you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:07pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
fieryy:China, France and US are all using it and are recording success. When you bag Covid and a doctor prescribes Chloroquine you can ask him those questions. I don’t have time for ur back and forth 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:21pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
My take Very brief and precise to point. Liberals want more people to die after contracting Chinese Wuhan virus. That way they can accuse their nemesis Drumph of being unresponsive. They even have an investigation soon to be going on. Id advice them to start the investigating the following Why York mayor De Blasio and Pelosi were hanging out in Chinatown York telling all to come and have fun. In Jan during the Chicom new year festival attended by very very many Wuhan Chinese. Why they called Drumph ban of China flights xenophobic when the real crisis had not struck Why Fredo's brother Andrew Cuomo wanted 30k respirators while now he only needs 3-4k respirators. Why Michigan, MSM etc are banning chloroquine as a subtle substitute for healing corona. Why both York and Calif have two 1000 bed capacity ships docked at port for non corona victims that have only treated 25 patients despite Fredo's brother asking for 30k beds. Yet he had two darn warehouses stocked with respirators that the Feds showed him where the stockpile was holed up,Like he did not know. Why they were intent on impeachment in Dec Jan and Feb when the Chicoms were lying to everybody. Why the WHO declared in mid Jan that corona is not human to human spread. Id like this new investigation to take root and that should be about the focus. Id also like the investigation to query WHO Director General formerly Ethiopian Health Minister on why he accepted the Chicoms nonsense after the Chicom poured billions of dollars in their one belt initiative silk road Ethiopia nd why before the Ethiopian peaceful resolution of their domestic crisis he was a senior persona in a. Ethiopian communist leaning party 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:32pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
White House memos warned in run-up to pandemic of up to 2M deaths, economic devastation https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-memos-warned-in-run-up-to-pandemic-of-up-to-2m-deaths-economic-devastation Top White House trade adviser Peter Navarro warned in stark terms about how deadly and economically devastating the coronavirus outbreak could be, weeks before it became a full-blown pandemic. Navarro delivered the warnings to others at the White House in internal memos in January and February, saying that the United States could see up to 2 million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic damage. The first Navarro memo was dated Jan. 29 and was addressed to the White House National Security Council, according to The New York Times, which first reported on the document. In it, Navarro made his case for an “immediate travel ban on China.” In that memo, Navarro also reportedly warned that “the lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on U.S. soil.” “This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans,” Navarro wrote in the memo, according to the Times. Navarro’s first memo came as the president was downplaying the prospect of the virus coming to the U.S., while, at the same time, just days later on Jan. 31 restricting travel from China, after it was reported that COVID-19 was first discovered in China in December 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei province. The memo reportedly warned of up to $5.7 trillion in economic costs and up to a half-million American deaths in a worst-case scenario. In late February Navarro penned another memo, this time addressed to the president himself and escalating the warnings. The Feb. 23 memo, first reported by Axios and confirmed by Fox News, warned that “there is an increasing probability of a full-blown COVID-19 pandemic that could infect as many as 100 million Americans, with a loss of life as many as 1-2 million souls.” The estimate was ultimately in line with what officials say could have happened without any social distancing measures and other precautions now in place across the country. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx said last week that without any measures in place to mitigate the virus’ spread, projections jump to between 1.5 and 2.2 million deaths from COVID-19. But with extensive restrictions in place, they said the coronavirus could still leave 100,000 to 240,000 people in the U.S. dead and millions infected. In his memo, Navarro outlined such scenarios and called for funding to tackle the problem. “To minimize economic and social disruptions and loss of life, there is an urgent need for an immediate supplemental appropriation of at least $30 billion dollars [sic] to support efforts at prevention, treatment, inoculation, and diagnostics,” Navarro wrote. “This is NOT a time for penny-pinching or horse trading on the Hill. Uncertainties associated with developing a vaccine and viable treatment options should NOT slow down investments in these high risk, high reward ventures.” https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/06/peter-navarro-memo-in-late-january-warned-of-coronavirus-pandemic/ ...Hope this is not fake news coming from Foxnews... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:42pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/twitter-thread-launched-trump-coronavirus-drug-170557 Very long article. This is what you get in the age of trump. Turning an article by non medical practitioners into a magic bullet. I will continue to say, this is not a movie. This is real life. Its in movies the hero bucks all logic to find a cure or deliver an element in under two hours. All that has happened is that the hypeman on the white House has given people false hope, because that is all he has. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:44pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TheShopKeeper: Trump and his supporters don't read. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 5:01pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
ornicus:Lol, so it's you liberals that read? right in that article you were told, Navarro based on his projections made a case for an immediate ban of travel from China. That was on January 29. Two days later on January 31, Trump did just that and guess those who opposed it as being racist and xenophobic? Your liberal media and politicians!! Even you were still attacking the travel ban few days ago here. So who doesn't read? Is it Trump who followed the recommendation made by Navarro or is it you and your liberal leaders? Your Democrat politicians including your presidential candidate have all just recently turned around to admit that Trump was right after all. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:05pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
garetz: You have time, I already saw the article on Fox today and was surprised to see how a liberal wants to use it to score points against Trump despite Trump following his recommendations and liberals protested. That Ornicus dude is very unintelligent 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 5:06pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
ornicus:Fake News!!! In real life, lives are being saved by doctors using chloroquine, your liberal governors are now begging for shipments of Chloroquine. In the delusional mind of TDS afflicted liberals, the only thing exists is, orange man bad! Orange man bad!! Orange man bad!!! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:12pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
garetz: I am sure you will all be able to show us the numbers when all is said and done. Not the numbers you are pulling out of your arse, but actual people 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:18pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: See why I say you illiterates don't read? How did you miss that? To minimize economic and social disruptions and loss of life, there is an urgent need for an immediate supplemental appropriation of at least $30 billion dollars [sic] to support efforts at prevention, treatment, inoculation, and diagnostics,” Navarro wrote. “This is NOT a time for penny-pinching or horse trading on the Hill. Uncertainties associated with developing a vaccine and viable treatment options should NOT slow down investments in these high risk, high reward ventures.” These were the recommendations. But to your typical racist republican idiot such as yourself, all problems are solved with travel bans If we just keep out the Chinese we will be safe from this scourge. Mentally deficient joker. Your god trump waited until last week to start ordering equipment. You should be ashamed that you can still point to a travel ban as an effective way to stop a pandemic. But what should one expect from a republican hick? They must think you can stop the virus by building a wall 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:43pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
ornicus: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:49pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TheShopKeeper: A quick perusal show the usual white House of chaos with multiple teams of yes men competing for the Emperors favor. The same culture of infighting that bankrupted 4 casinos is playing out again The trump House of kafkaesque commotion. Great for entertainment, but terrible for a crisis Americans are literally living through the Chinese curse. May you have interesting times in the white house 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:19pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it. President Trump made a rare appearance in the Situation Room on Sunday as his pandemic task force was meeting, determined to talk about the anti-malaria medicine that he has aggressively promoted lately as a treatment for the coronavirus. Once again, according to a person briefed on the session, the experts warned against overselling a drug yet to be proved a safe remedy, particularly for heart patients. “Yes, the heart stuff,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. Then he headed out to the cameras to promote it anyway. “So what do I know?” he conceded to reporters at his daily briefing. “I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense.” Day after day, the salesman turned president has encouraged coronavirus patients to try hydroxychloroquine with all of the enthusiasm of a real estate developer. The passing reference he makes to the possible dangers is usually overwhelmed by the full-throated endorsement. “What do you have to lose?” he asked five times on Sunday. Some associates of Mr. Trump’s have financial interests in the issue. Sanofi’s largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the investment company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump. A spokesman for Mr. Fisher declined to comment. Another investor in both Sanofi and Mylan, another pharmaceutical firm, is Invesco, the fund previously run by Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary. Mr. Ross said in a statement Monday that he “was not aware that Invesco has any investments in companies producing” the drug, “nor do I have any involvement in the decision to explore this as a treatment.” As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi. 1 Like 1 Share |
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