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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Amujale(m): 11:40am On Apr 06, 2020 |
gregyboy: Firstly, Yoruba is an Ethnicity and not a tribe. Secondly, there are no tribes in Africa. Anyone looking for tribes, will find them in Asia and Europe. Furthermore, let me now pass you back to TAO11 to give you that work. Cheers! 2 Likes |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 12:06pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Mraphel:is Edo a yoruba state?why do you people always feel entitled to what is not yours?if the yoruba speaking Edos claimed they are from yoruba and not Edo then they look for their entitlement in yoruba land.and it will interest your ignorant ass to know that all local government areas and villages have representatives in the palace no matter the language they speak.the great grandfather of the governor of the state was an igbo man and he was one of the reason why the iyase title was created .please try to do research before posting anything. |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 12:10pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Mraphel:the names you claimed as yoruba names were initially Benin words or sentences which were corrupted by you people. |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 12:12pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Sarah20A: It's an unwritten rule that emotional rants will not be tolerated on this specific thread. Please adjust. Thanks! 3 Likes |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 12:37pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Amujale: Hahaha! 2 Likes |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 1:19pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Mraphel:you have to understand that there was nothing like yoruba and you have to go back to the grassroots to fully understand everything. |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 1:45pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
TAO11:this are not emotional rants but questions and facts directed to a specific person and not you |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 2:02pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Sarah20A: I am sorry if I wasn't polite. But those are loads of rhetorical questions. They're emotional rants, sister. Please cut it out. 1 Like |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Mraphel: 4:18pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Sarah20A:There was nothing like Yoruba but there's Oduduwa till this day, Also there wasn't the word Benin before Oronmiyan grandson of oduduwa came to Benin. 2 Likes |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Mraphel: 4:23pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Sarah20A:That means in the past Benin were Yoruba. These modern Benin doesn't know the meaning of d names but yoruba people will tell you 2 Likes |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 5:02pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
TAO11: Lets start analysis i guess gou always think one way only Benin had contact with not only the imagined ife but other yorubas, such as ekiti, ondo, eko, oyo history only mentioned one encounter with ife and that was around 10 century bringing back oromiyan, after that no other history was recorded about ife and benin not even by the Portuguese. the sculpture you happen to have posted is a 14c artwork , dont you think the sculpture was too early to have been made at 10 century when obviously the contact btw ife and benin happened once at 10 century Lets also reason it this way, benin happend to have encountered other yorubas from 14c till date since its conquest in yoruba nations probably the sculpture could be ekiti or owo sculpture or even an alafin sculpture and not necessarily ooni sculpture like it was tagged And probably found its way to benin through interaction with other yorubas benin had encountered in later years or probably the benin merchant in yoruba areas brought it to the palace as all artworks belongs to the oba, so when it was brought to the palace the oba recieved it and kept it as a gift or treasure from vassal areas We cant tag these sculpture ooni" we don't know how the ooni dressed no ife sculpture depicted ooni to have dressed that way Probably it was alost sculpture we don't know how he got to benin or who had brought it, but you and your ooni quickly tag it ooni ife like it was written on it or because it had a symbol similar to ife art But yet no similar artwork of such sculpture is found in ife art i could have also close mg eyes and belive that sculpture was brought by benin from ife to benin but guy the date doesnt match benin and if encounter happened to have occurred earlier than the said sculpture, probably the benin had found it in another yoruba areas they stayed and took possession of it and later took it to benin this also doesn't guarantee or pdove its an ife art or oonis depict sculpture Untill an atwork similar to it can be found in ife, then we can bodly tagg it ooni" or ife art work, despite all this scholars also belived the ife art works were not made by the ife people probably paid people who were skilled in it to do it If you indeed want me to believe it was an Ife art and not an art made by other yoruba that got lost to benin Give me a picture of a similar art work of such masterpiece from ife, if not tagging it ife art because a faulty history saif they once had contact would be wrong Note : please if you mention me nxt time pls make it short like this dont come and be writing two pages because u want to prove a point it scares me to resd it please make it short Samuk TAO11
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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 5:17pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
gregyboy: See replies to your ret@rded contentions here: https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121 The only reason you've replied me now while samuk himself has ran away is because you're less intelligent than he. He understands what hit him. You on the other hand have no clue what's even going on. Go get yourself a copy of "Queen Primer". 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Astark: 6:54pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
So funny how yorubas are dying to make their history the same as the benins It's not our fault your history is full of slavery and other ethnic groups dominating them |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Astark: 6:55pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
I've not even read a single gibberish on this entire thread and I wont read them |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 7:01pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Astark: Astark:[/s] Taking your time to type up comments in response to some comments that you didnt read makes you appear ins@nely m0ronic. Summary: The history of the Yoruba people is light years ahead of the Edos' whom the Yorubas have subjugated on their own Edo land for about 1000 years and still counting! Italy! Italy!! Italy!!! Does this name also ring a bell?? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 7:40pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
TAO11: You made no sense here What is my contention you're barking about for |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Astark: 9:51pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
anything to tie their worthless history to benin kingdom.. i will advise those benins commenting here to stop, it is what they want. no point in proving anything |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 10:02pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
gregyboy: Astark: Whatver I've been dishing out is obviously beyond your reach. Go have debates with your ilks. Make sure to support the motion that the tortoise is wiser than the rabbit. Go well, bye-bye! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Nobody: 8:13am On Apr 07, 2020 |
samuk: That doesn't make them indigenous. |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 10:59am On Apr 07, 2020 |
TAO11: The problem i have with you like i always tell you, ypu belive so many rubbish you read online especially from the one that suit you Egharevba works are 33 in numbers and constantly revised but you keep on posting is old works which he corrected in his other books but you are quick to criticize ryder works as old work Without you proven it I am still waiting for a copy of adam knobler book and the namesof scholar who had disagreed wit ryder article Becuae the mesum curator and historians says so doesn't amount to it been correct you should know Research work on nigeria art are constantly revisited constantly even in modern times We can't even ascertain who this sculpture is depicting but scholars jumped quickly to believe its ife without no trace of an ife identity just only account of historical tales And you my friend have debated me with this same art as a gpruba ife art
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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 3:15pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
gregyboy:You are still here struggling for your life. Anyways, there is not one thing in your gibberish above which I have not debunked and rubbished on this same thread, or in others My honest advice for you is as follows: (1) Make out time to go through my recent posts and digest them thoroughly as if you have an exam to write. (2) Prior to doing that, make sure you have gotten yourself a copy of Queen Primer and study through all its available volume. (3) Proceed after then to debating those of the same single-digit IQ as you, and see how well you've fared if any progress still. It is after all the foregoing that I may consider ever stooping down again to engaging you on what should be an intellectual exchange. But for now, it is very, very obvious that my ideas, ratiocination, and appreciation of evidence very, very easily eludes your grasp. Shouldn't that be obvious to you as enough evidence that I am way, way out of your league? Your urgent task for now, if you still feel bitten by truth, is to go around Benin scouting for relevant persons whom you think is worth my time in terms of intellectual competence, integrity, and decorum. It must, at a minimum, be someone who is much, much smarter than the combination of you, samuk, ghostwon, and davidnazee --- otherwise it will be another waste of my precious time. I have spent enough of my time on charity, especially with you --- spoonfeeding you in the hope of seeing some growth. Anytime you feel the intense emotional need to "defend" "Benin kingdom" from truth, always ask yourself the following $1m question: Why did those whom I admit are way smarter than me (i.e. samuk, ghostwon, et al.) run away from these 'reputation' shattering points even though it was specifically directed at them?? For anyone who care for truth --- As it stands now, it has been demonstrated (beyond a shred of reasonable contention) that the Orun Oba Ado site in Ife is indeed the burial site of the exhumed heads of every third-reign Benin king. See the three links below (with the 3rd being very important) for the analysis of the historical and archaeological evidence leading to this conclusion on Orun Oba Ado. https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/14#88076290 https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/14#88076310 https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/15#88104911 As is seen from above, the 1961-2 archaeological finds by Professor Frank Willett, from the Orun Oba Ado site, came to match and corroborate the historical data earlier published by Chief J. U. Egharevba in the mid-1940s with astonishing accuracy. This has therefore puts to a final rest all the laughable conspiracy jokes of how Chief J. U. Egharevba hated is own Edo heritage --- jokes that have been repeatedly regurgitated by certain Binis who struggle to stomach the "too-much-truth" from their own most celebrated indigenous Edo historian in the world. Also, as it stands now, the fact the Ooni of Ife is regarded in ancient Bini kingdom as God Almighty (incarnated in human flesh) --- "Oghene" as they called him --- has being established without a shred of reasonable contention. See link below (among numerous other comments in this thread) on this: https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121 Cheers! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 4:48pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TAO11: Lol, you sick |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 4:55pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 5:04pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TAO11: Ife never had any relationship with benin I have debunked all your proves Sickboy Metaphysical |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 5:23pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
gregyboy: https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149224 https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121 Attached too. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 5:50pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TAO11: How incredible is this source I always say you're retard Or should i show you a screenshot of benin claiming they begot anything called ife Nigga who wrote that trash Oduduwa" festival Lol, you just see anything that suit you, and you post it Guy u nor wise at all, you nor get sense Bring atleast from a source from edonet that agrees with that we binis celebrate oduduwa festival lol Again you sick Benin and ife dont have any connections |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by TAO11(f): 7:25pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
gregyboy:Again: https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149224 https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121 Regarding the fact contained in the attachment on Oduduwa festival: see: Rather, see: The Art Institute of Chicago https://archive.artic.edu/benin/rituals/ |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by gregyboy(m): 9:38pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
TAO11: Guy get sense revaluate what you seeon net before you post it coming from foreign source doesnt make it correct even the foreign i post i criticize it before i post them here You on the other hand behaves like what benin call ozur(fool) and post anything Because it sooth you Try and goggle type Oduduwa festival in benin and show me the result screenshot it for me See the internet is full of fakenewes i guess you are aware of that Since it's a festival as the article mentioned ig would be a very popular information in benin so goggle type it and screenshot the result of searches put
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Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 5:06pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Mraphel:tell me the meaning of oshodi,Eko,etc.if some modern Benins don't know some of the meanings doesn't make those names to be that of yoruba |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Mraphel: 5:18pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Sarah20A:Don't know. Tell me the meaning of Benin? |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 5:20pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Mraphel:oronmiyan's own was ' ile ubinu' it was the Portuguese who corrupted it to Benin.you know how Benin came about so tell me how that word 'yoruba 'came about and were are the oduduwa family in yoruba land?please also explained how ooni of ife was not a blue blood was crowned? |
Re: The main reasons Yoruba not enlisted as a tribe in Edo state by Sarah20A(f): 5:35pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Mraphel:the original name of the Benin people were 'igodomigodo'then followed by 'ile ubinu' which was corrupted by the Portuguese to Benin .so technically Benin mean ile ubinu and ile ubinu means land of vexation in yoruba word,then it was changed to Edo by oba eweka. 1 Like |
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