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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 5:29pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: That is what happens when people try to portray myths as real truth. Myths have been proven to always be false and full of contradictions. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 5:32pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: The latest joke from Benin kingdom has arrived. Clutching at straws like the proverbial drowning man. BENIN LOGIC: (1) A Nairalander imagines "A" about a certain archaeological subject. (2) An archaeologist actually finds that it's "Z" (3) Benin logician concludes: Hurray!! The archaeologist is a reckless liar. Every stable mind knows who is really really sick amongst (1), (2), and (3). Having said that, MetaPhysical has confirmed to me to have updated his understanding of whatever he may have erroneously thought on the subject. He has grown in knowledge. For the Yoruba person, knowledge is a flow concept not a stock concept. We are a dynamic growing people. It is only in Benin kingdom that you all are not allowed to learn and grow for the fear of killing your ignorance induced delusions of grandeur. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 5:34pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: I defer to what TAO has said on Orun Oba Ado. My account on that subject is inferior to his....like Benin is inferior to a Priest-King. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 5:34pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
davidnazee: Yoruba people from formerly unknown little insignificant villages will turn the fabrication of Benin history into a career. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 5:41pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Too late, gregyboy has already screenshot your comments saying the English man Willie and anyone that believes him is stupid and that makes TAO11 stupid by your submission. Your retraction is as low as it could get from a very cowardly and shameless individual. In your dismissal of the Orun Oba Ado, you were even more emphatic than the Benins themselves. I am happy everyone can now see the sort of characters we are dealing with here on nairaland. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 5:54pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: You finally agree benin and ife never had a connection that is the first step There will be no need to debate benin and ife mythical relationships again |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 5:56pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: How is Oduduwa originally a Yoruba man? The only available theories about his origin are; He came down from the skies He came from the Middle East He is a Benin Prince. Which of this theories makes him full blooded Yoruba? You are a shallow minded and foolish person. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 5:57pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: It only shows how confused the Yoruba revisionist, TAO11 and Metaphysical are and all can see that you are also very shameless about it. I told Metaphysical before that none of you were out for historical facts unlike the Benins. Benin history to you guys is to make up for the lack of history from your various insignificant villages. Why not tell us about the history of your various villages. Talking of inferiority complex. You guys like to hide under the Yoruba umbrella to hide the facts that your various villages and towns lack history you could be proud of. Metaphysical even went as low as to start a thread were he claimed that Edo claimed to have migrated out of Onitsha, Ife was no longer good enough for him because he saw that no credible evidence support the Ife lies. He is now looking for allies from the east. How disingenuous. You guys are suffering from inferiority complex. Metaphysical has updated his knowledge, same way you guys also updated you knowledge from two sites for your Orun Oba Ado in which you initially created a site for female Obas of Benin. The Benins should just ignore you guys. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:03pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Sarah20A: Modern human, Olden human --- What is important is that the oldest human bones are found in Yorubaland, and they date to a minimum of 7000BC You haven't shown one thing for your Benin.Wait, where is your academic evidence for the 2500 years old Benin kingdom which I asked for?? Oh I guess you've now learnt your lesson to always say only what you can prove. Unlike your male counterpart, I see growth in you. What authenticity was questioned when artwork was stolen? How does this counter my argument that nothing of Benin history was written down until Egharevba did? Does the artwork show when Ekalderhan said hs name was the laughable non-existent Izoduwa?? Now regarding replying you early or not. Don't start lying, okay! I replied after you first asked and before you asked the very second time. Go check the order of the comments. And I am waiting for your apology on your allegation that I said Oduduwa didn't exist. How you come to know the content of a many-page article without opening it is still interesting. Or what you mean is that one of its several conclusions is not what you want to hear? And Oba Ewuare II himself admitted in 2018 at Ife that the first Oba of Benin was an Ife prince. Regarding the part of your comment that some said he came from the sky, some say Egypt, or Mecca: Well, it shows that we Yorubas don't convene and agree to a lie like some did in the 1970s. We are dynamic. Moreover, tell me: From where did Ogiso Igodo order his parachute with which he dived from the sky into Benin city? Also tell me: How did God Almighty himself give birth to the first Oba of Benin as his last born son --- according to Omo N'Oba ErediauwaII? Also tell me: When and how did the first Edos travel from Egypt according to Egharevba. Or tell me: How and when did the Edos migrate from Ife to Benin city where they came to displace some Ivbirinwineko --- according to the Iso Norho tradition. There seem to be more contradictory jokes from Benin kingdom if you really wanna play the card of mythology. Of all human race in the world, only the Edos are timid to narrate their mythology --- others including the Yorubas, the Greeks, the Romans, et al., rock theirs proudly while they know where to draw the line between it and their history. For the umpteenth time, I have since replied you on the contemporary consensus ([s]you can say opinion all you like in as much as it helps you sleep well at night[/s]) on Oduduwa. Now you have confirmed again that you do not read what you reply to. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 6:09pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Sarah20A: You're still living in the past my friend If you are benin and you any very aged relatives tell them to tell you thr story of ekaladeran you wont see any of those stuffs you wrote there Ubinu or Oduduwa stuff it was frictional please dont tell your kids such shit it was all made up |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:09pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk:[/s] No, instead if someone newly come to learn aboyt the submission of experts on a topic on which he formerly was mistake n and then decide to grow --- unlike a Benin man who will rather die an ignoramous --- then such is a real human being. I am still yet to see one tiny shred of evidence with which you can raise even a finger against the conclusions of historians and archaeologists. What you do best instaed is run away like a Benin b!tch, and clutch at straws while battling for your life and scouting for who is going down with you. I wish you all the best in your fight with reality. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 6:10pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: So can you now draw a line between your myths and your history? Tell your history of Ife that is not a myth. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:12pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Sarah20A: Don't waste your time with these shameless revisionists who are looking for people to make themselves feel important and worthy. Ask them to tell you the history of their various villages and towns. They should also be promoting the history of their villages and towns or don't their towns have history to brag about. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:15pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: It's pure hubris to be telling Benin history and claiming expert when you don't know your own history. Educate us on your own town's history. Benin historical achievements are internationally recognised, show me anything in Ife that is close in comparison. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:15pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
davidnazee: I am not just drawing anything now. Yorubas always knew their own mythology separate from their history. Ogiso Igodo diving into Benin city from the sky is your mythlogy. God Almighty giving birth to the first Oba of Benin is your mythology. Oghene using chain to come down from the sky to pour sand on the flood is your mythology. Embrace your mythology with love if you feel proud about it just like every race out there in the world. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:18pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: We know our history, if you need a link to where you can read and learn from where I have discussed that in full, then ask. What we are simply saying is that if you say the truth about Benin history (especially those parts which connects you to Great Ife --- based on what historians have documented and researched) you wont die. You try it and prove me wrong. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:26pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: You're scared that the truth will set her free, as she is already dissociation herself from the popular megalomaniac Benin claims? --- e.g. Benin being 2500 years old which she has kept mute on courtesy yours truly. Benin liars, una go hear word! 1 Like |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:36pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
gregyboy: Hahaha, the only made up story is that of Ekaladerhan becoming Oduduwa. No more no less! I am yet to see a world-renowned contemporary historian who does not agree that Oranmiyan did bring the superior rule to Igodomigodo from his Ife country and changed the name to Ubinu. Stop indirectly calling Oba Ewuare II (and orher past Bini Obas) fools. Listen to Oba Ewuare (from timestamp 13:20) and obey him. Or are you colluding with Ogiso and Ogiamen to send him back home to Ufe?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0&t=829s Benin liars right now (below) 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by nlPoster: 6:41pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Any pictures forwarded anywhere should be with the owner's knowledge and consent. If not, you are breaking the law. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 6:42pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
samuk: Hahahahahahaha..... ; You are happy to grip tightly to that. Hey, so who is the superior to your Oba that deBarros talked about? I want to know. DeBarros is one of the most trusted portuguese you have bragged partnership with. Mmeehhhn....he did you all wrong with that truthful recording. That superior/inferior relationship is the bottomline of everything else that Benin stands for. You are nobody where Ife is. 4 Likes |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:46pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Exactly, I already showed him how slow he was not to have realized that the joke was on him. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 6:47pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: Give me ur number babe am falling inlove with you lets bring the old myth of benin and ife into reality through courtship Mylove am waiting for your glorious number |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 6:48pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
gregyboy: Tufiakwa!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 7:00pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: You guys are jokes and jokers like you just admitted, who wants to waste their time with jokers. I now get it that all your submissions were jokes and you were joking, shouldn't have taken you too seriously. Thanks for letting us know you guys are joking, when next I see posts from you guys now, I know you are just joking. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:01pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: Showed show you a renowned writer who disagree to ife benin connections Lets not use writing documents to disprove or approve this fact lets use pictorial analysis and factual analysis Instead of quoting authors lets analyzed it factual without quoting any author Lets imagine we been our own author and analyze our own thought On the normal African religion arguing with a lady Is an abomination but thank God for this era So are you ready to analyse ife and benin had a connection |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:03pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:11pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11:TAO11 we ma sofo omo. Wa gbo Wa pe we ni raun we ni rago. Nain nain ko se mo e lara be. Wo se omo iye mi. It's prayer (sorry I had to use my native dialect cos am overjoyed) 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:11pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
TAO11: The message was clear in 14th century, it was clear in 15th century, it did not change in 16th century, it was revalidated in 17th century, it remained same in 18th century, Britosh arrived in 19th century and acknowledged the five centuries old tradition, 20th century gave us a new political identity but the message was stubborn and would not budge....here we are in 21st century and it still hasnt changed.....Benin is inferior to Ife! Portuguese said it Dutch said it French said it Spanish said it Edos said it Yoruba said it Ijaw said it Itsekiri said it Nupe said it Igala said it Igbo said it Urhobo said it Prince Charles had to even come back and picture it! Can you see what Oranmiyan saw with their ancestors and why he concluded these are savages that should have been left in their naykedness in forest? 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 7:13pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
gregyboy: You are a fatuous lair, and that's why I requested that your parents talk to me and not you. No renowned writer said anywhere that there are no Ife-Benin relationship, you Janus-faced wide-mouthed insanely mor0nic liar. It's not my fault that you're just learning to read and you need pictures beside texts. Moreover, you just admitted the very thing I've been repeating since that you sit down imagine anything and come to Nairaland and type uncoordinated stuffs like Benin Kingdom have been existing before God. That's what happen when you ignore experts and want to take their job despite admitting that you're still learn to read on your own. before I curse you, give that phone to your parents and let them, talk to me, not you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 7:14pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Oh my God! You killed the show! Drop mic, abeg! The Oghene himself 2 Likes
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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 7:19pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: I know you are joking by saying Benin is inferior to Ife because that is not what the Guinness book of world records says. Infact no black race has so far matched Benin historical achievements according to Guinness book of world records. As the official certified nairaland joker, is this another jokes of yours, what will you do with your other joke of Edo migrated out of Onitsha. |
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo State Remained Part Of The Expansive Yoruba - Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 7:22pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical, please don't address samuk 's latest distraction attempt on Edo vs. Onitcha. He should create a selarate thread on that and tag us accordingly if he wants to pursue tgat course. No come and spoil fun here. We still dey enjoy this one. We refuse to be distracted by Onitsha, Wall, Guiness, Gulder oo. What we're discussing at the moment is the superior monarchy. Create a thread for walls if you so desire and tag us in accordingly. OGHENE!!! 1 Like |
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