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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 7:55am On Apr 10, 2020
BabaOwen:
What's the importance of villages been destroyed?
What's the importance of people been chased out of their ancestral homes?
What's the importance of Nigerian civilians being killed because of their faith or the organization they work for?
Nigerian soldiers can keep dying in borno, so far it does not have any economic importance to the country, right?

Monies that should be spent on more important things are been spent on the military.

Hope you no go vex when buhari announce say millions of dollars have been budgeted for rebuilding the north east, imagine if this millions of dollars is channeled to BOI sad

Why did the UK go to war because of Falkland island?
Was any harm been done to the UK economy for them to go to war because of the Falkland island?

UK keeps half of all the oil proceeds from the north Falklands basin, so they are not occupying the Island for fun, & yes it was worth fighting for.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by phazotron(m): 8:03am On Apr 10, 2020
kabe1:


Nigeria bought 12 Super Tucanos for $329 million. That individual claiming 600 million is telling lies.

We are also getting JF-17 thunders, we are also getting MI-35m helicopters. For the MI-35m once we pay the balance the remaining 8 units would be delivered.

The Tucanos can carry all the ground attack bombs and munitions in the US Air Force service apart from MOAB and Nuclear weapons.

The Tucanos can loiter and provide reconnaissance for 10 hours to ground troops, imagine that capability.

The Tucano is perfect for Nigeria considering we are not in a threat environment like Syria were the enemy has MANPADs.

We cannot buy the TU-160 it's not going to happen. We cannot buy the AC-130, that's not going to happen either.

What the Nigerian army needs in addition to more of the VT-4 Tank is a dedicated Air Arm, armed with Light Attack Helicopters.


No offence, but U sure say that tiny mosquito go fit do all those things u talk? 12 for $329 million equates to $25m+ each. With that kind of money, we can still do better. What happend to the su25 someone mentioned? We still can't overemphasize the importance of dedicated gunship platforms as well as armed UAVs for 24hr all weather surveillance and attack. Air force needs to address that.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 8:15am On Apr 10, 2020
phazotron:



No offence, but U sure say that tiny mosquito go fit do all those things u talk? 12 for $329 million equates to $25m+ each. With that kind of money, we can still do better. What happend to the su25 someone mentioned? We still can't overemphasize the importance of dedicated gunship platforms as well as armed UAVs for 24hr all weather surveillance and attack. Air force needs to address that.
The $329million covers the aircraft Two spare engines each
Tons of Weapons (APKWs, Rockets,Bombs,Ammo for it's guns) also payments for the FLIR that would be mounted on 6 of the aircraft,some infrastructure at the NIGER AFB, Other spares..
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:33am On Apr 10, 2020
There is going to be some heavy shake up in the military heirachy soon, an offensive is alo being planned by the president's inner circles and ONSA.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 8:39am On Apr 10, 2020
kabe1:


We don't produce heavy combat equipment. MRAPs are very useful in COIN but they only pack the same firepower as our gun trucks.
atleast they will offer more protection to troops to avoid ambushes
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by phazotron(m): 8:52am On Apr 10, 2020
Whyem15:
There is going to be some heavy shake up in the military heirachy soon, an offensive is alo being planned by the president's inner circles and ONSA.


A shake up is needed in the air force soon. Ams why don't we have naval amphibious units in the lake Chad area too? No b water dey there?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:57am On Apr 10, 2020
kabe1:


Nigeria bought 12 Super Tucanos for $329 million. That individual claiming 600 million is telling lies.

We are also getting JF-17 thunders, we are also getting MI-35m helicopters. For the MI-35m once we pay the balance the remaining 8 units would be delivered.

[/b]The Tucanos can carry all the ground attack bombs and munitions in the US Air Force service apart from MOAB and Nuclear weapons.

The Tucanos can loiter and provide reconnaissance for 10 hours to ground troops, imagine that capability.

The Tucano is perfect for Nigeria considering we are not in a threat environment like Syria were the enemy has MANPADs [b]

We cannot buy the TU-160 it's not going to happen. We cannot buy the AC-130, that's not going to happen either.

What the Nigerian army needs in addition to more of the VT-4 Tank is a dedicated Air Arm, armed with Light Attack Helicopters.

Thanks for this man
Guys let do something ?

Let’s compare the Super Tucson vs Su-25 or other jet you would have preferred to get grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:07am On Apr 10, 2020
phazotron:



No offence, but U sure say that tiny mosquito go fit do all those things u talk? 12 for $329 million equates to $25m+ each. With that kind of money, we can still do better. What happend to the su25 someone mentioned? We still can't overemphasize the importance of dedicated gunship platforms as well as armed UAVs for 24hr all weather surveillance and attack. Air force needs to address that.


Tiny but the sting will bring hell and destruction from above.
This Tucano jet is specially designed for COIN operation and quote me there is no assets in its class that cheap, easy to maintain, that can bring destruction to terrorist, precise munition and targeting system .......etc

I know why some people don’t like this jet, one it’s a turbo-aircraft and solely for COIN and it can never be used for air power projection. But we have a serious internal problem we need to deal with, we can always get aircraft meant for our air space cover and power projection in the nearest future. Until few days ago no body knew the army was doing some serious shopping which deal was activated almost a year ago.
Who and some equipment are still coming in from Russia and Eastern Europe.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 9:10am On Apr 10, 2020
Super tucano
Turboprop
Unit cost: $9 -18 million
Operational cost: $450-500 per hour
Max take off weight: 5400kg
Maximum speed: 590 km/h (370 mph, 320 kn)
Cruise speed: 520 km/h (320 mph, 280 kn)
Stall speed: 148 km/h (92 mph, 80 kn)
Range: 1,330 km (830 mi, 720 nmi)
Combat range: 550 km (340 mi, 300 nmi) (hi-lo-hi profile, 1,500 kg (3,307 lb) of external stores)
Ferry range: 2,855 km (1,774 mi, 1,542 nmi)
Endurance: 8 hours 24 minutes
Service ceiling: 10,668 m (35,000 ft)
g limits: +7 -3.5
Rate of climb: 16.4 m/s (3,230 ft/min)

Armament

Guns:
Internal: (2×) 12.7 mm (0.50 in) 1,100 rounds per minute FN Herstal M3P machine guns, one in each wing.
pod: 1 20 mm (0.79 in) 650 rounds per minute GIAT M20A1 cannon below the fuselage.
pod: 1 12.7 mm (0.50 in) FN Herstal HMP for M3P machine gun under each wing
pod: up to 4 7.62 mm (0.30 in) 3,000 rounds per minute Dillon Aero M134 Minigun (under development) under wings.
Hardpoints: 5 (two under each wing and one under fuselage centreline) with a capacity of 1,550 kg (3,300 lb),
Rockets: ** (4x) pods 70 mm (2.75 in) LM-70/19[219](SBAT-70)
(4x) pods 70 mm (2.75 in) LAU-68A/G
Missiles: ** Air-to-air:
AIM-9L Sidewinder
MAA-1A Piranha
MAA-1B Piranha (under development)
Python 3
Python 4
Air-to-ground:
AGM-65 Maverick
Roketsan Cirit
General-purpose bombs:
(10x) Mk 81
(5x) Mk 82
M-117
Incendiary bombs:
BINC-300[citation needed]
Cluster bombs:
BLG-252
Precision-guided bombs:
FPG-82 (under development) Friuli Aeroespacial INS/GPS guidance kit for Mk 82.
SMKB-82 – INS/GPS guidance kit for Mk 82.
GBU-54 (under development)
GBU-38 (under development)
GBU-39 (under development)
Paveway II
Lizard – Elbit laser guidance kit.
Griffin – IAI laser guidance kit.
Others:
Chaff & Flare (countermeasures)
FLIR AN/AAQ-22 Star SAFIRE II (Electro-Optical/Infrared Sensors)

SU25
Jet engine
Unit cost: $11 million
Max take off weight: 19300kg
Maximum speed: 975 km/h (606 mph, 526 kn)
Maximum speed: Mach 0.79
Range: 1,000 km (620 mi, 540 nmi)
Combat range: 750 km (470 mi, 400 nmi) at sea level with 4,400 kg (9,700 lb) of ordnance and two external fuel tanks
Service ceiling: 7,000 m (23,000 ft)
g limits: +6.5
Rate of climb: 58 m/s (11,400 ft/min)
Armament

Guns:
1 × 30 mm Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 autocannon with 250 rounds
SPPU-22 gun pods for 2 × 23 mm Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 autocannons with 260 rounds
Hardpoints: 11 hardpoints with a capacity of up to 4,400 kg (9,700 lb) of stores,with provisions to carry combinations of:
Rockets:
UB-32A rocket pods for S-5 rockets
B-8M1 rocket pods for S-8 rockets
S-13
S-24
S-25
Missiles:
Air-to-air missiles:
K-13A
R-60
R-73E
Air-to-surface missiles:
Kh-23
Kh-25ML
Kh-29L
Anti-radiation missiles:
Kh-28
Bombs:
BETAB-500 concrete-penetrating bomb
FAB-250 general-purpose bomb
FAB-500 GP bomb
FAN-500 bomb
KAB-500KR TV-guided bomb
ZAB-500 incendiary bomb
Other:
ASO-2V decoy dispensers (chaff and flare): Su-25s in Syria have been pictured with four rows of ASO-2V decoy dispensers (chaff and flare) along the tailcone's upper surface aft of the vertical stabiliser.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:12am On Apr 10, 2020
PRESS RELEASE

STOP DEPICTING THE MILITARY AS BRUTAL IN YOUR DRAMA SKITS

1. There is no doubt that the COVID-19 pandemic has brought about a variety of measures to stem its spread in our country. Some of these measures include restriction of movement, lockdown and stay at home directives which are being enforced by various government and security agencies. Some creative Nigerians found it expedient to provide comic relief through the production of funny jokes, graphics, drama skits and video clips to entertain the public. The materials are circulated through social media.

2. Unfortunately, most of these clips circulating on social media bordered on the Nigerian soldier and projecting the military as lawless, brutal and being harsh on people flouting the stay at home order pursuant to the lockdown and stay at home directives imposed in some states in Nigeria. There is no doubt these drama skits and video clips denigrate and cast the military and the security forces in a bad light.

3. This development creates a wrong impression and general perception of our soldiers negatively and projects them as undisciplined and brutal. Thus, creating an erroneous impression of the military. We are well trained and dedicated professionals that perform our Constitutional duties diligently and dispassionately with utmost regards for human rights and rules of engagement.

4. It is wrong to continue to produce such drama skits, video clips and graphics at the expense of the excellent image of the Nigerian soldier. It affects troops morale and has a broad implication for national security. No nation or good citizen make jest of its military. Therefore, we are appealing to well-meaning Nigerians and producers of such materials to desist forthwith. The military or security agencies should not be made the subject or focus of those skits at the expense of a key and strategic arm of the security architecture of our great nation.

5. On our part, we will continue to discharge our Constitutionally assigned tasks professionally respecting human rights and rules of engagement. We will also investigate the source of such props and costumes and ensure that military uniforms will not be used to denigrate the military.

SAGIR MUSA
Colonel
Acting Director Army Public Relations
10 April 2020
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:17am On Apr 10, 2020
Nigerian Army Air components is still a pipe dream. I don't see any tangible thing happening to that effect even in 5yrs time except something urgent is done. You can't be talking about establishing an air wing with our pitiable defence budget majority of which goes into recurrent expenditure.
Infact we don't have more than three operational T-72 tanks as of present. We hv not really seen the need to look for other sources of funding the Military other than the annual pitiable budget, if truely we have leaders that can think it won't be difficult to source for at least $2bn yearly from the private sector/public apart from defence budget to fund the military.
Out of the VAT sef 2% can be budgeted strictly for purchase of equipment yearly but we no dey reason in this part of world.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:17am On Apr 10, 2020
GENERAL BURATAI ON A TOUR TO ARMY SPECIAL SUPER CAMP NGAMDU,
* Directed Troops To Brace Up For Final Defeat of Insurgency
* Assures Troops of More Fighting Equipment

In continuation of the Chief of Army Staff (COAS), Lt Gen Tukur Yusufu Buratai's tour of troops' locations in the north east theatre of Operation, the COAS has assured the troops of Operation Harbin Kunama IV of the provision of additional military hardwares and platforms to enhance the speedy completion of the ongoing war against insurgency in the North East.

The troops are on training at the army special super camp at Ngamdu. He directed them to take their training seriously in preparation for the speedy conclusion of the war against insurgency in Nigeria.

Gen Buratai gave the assurance while addressing troops at Army Special Forces Super Camp Ngamdu in Kaga Local Government Area of Borno on Thursday the 9th of April 2020.

He said that the Nigerian Army had taken delivery of more equipment and platforms that would be deployed to various theaters of operations across the country.

The COAS directed the troops to take advantage of their new additional equipment and platforms to hasten the final defeat of insurgency in Nigeria.

He further enjoined the officers and men to ensure that the recent setback experienced does not deter them from defeating the terrorists and assured them that with more commitment, courage and resilience insurgency will soon be history in our country.

According to him, "as you all know, we have been on this ground for long and I expect us to remain resolute, selflessly committed and push for the total defeat of the Insurgents in the coming days".

"I assure you that what is remaining is very small but it will require us to put more efforts, more determination and more courage to complete the remaining part of the battle soon".

Recall that of recent, we had setbacks which must not be allowed to happen again, -
We will not allow any further casualties both in men and equipment.

Recall that the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that Gen Buratai has been on operational tour to various troops' locations in the North East theatre of operation since on Monday the 6th of April 2020.

He also visited Army Super Camp 1 at Molai and the Special Forces Super Camp 12 in Chabbol near Maiduguri on Wednesday.

COAS was also at the Forward Operating Base at Alau Dam, outskirts of Maiduguri and also personally led the troops on reconnaissance around Mairimari Forest located southeast of Tamsu Ngamdua in Mafa Local Government Area of Borno State.

Similarly, the COAS went round Maigilari Forest in the east of Tamsu Ngamdua in the southwest of the same Mafa Local Government Area. These areas are generally seen as the routes and directions of approach into Maiduguri by the Boko Haram/ISWAP Criminals.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:47am On Apr 10, 2020
slimthugchimee2:
atleast they will offer more protection to troops to avoid ambushes

No, I agree with you. I'm just saying why we need additional heavy guns.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:49am On Apr 10, 2020
bidexiii:


Thanks for this man
Guys let do something ?

Let’s compare the Super Tucson vs Su-25 or other jet you would have preferred to get grin grin

I will search online for a comparison and post.

The SU-25 is better than the Tucano all round but in terms of the warfare we are facing as Nigerian, the Tucano is better.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:55am On Apr 10, 2020
Whyem15:
There is going to be some heavy shake up in the military heirachy soon, an offensive is alo being planned by the president's inner circles and ONSA.

This is what we are all waiting for Bro smiley.

I need to step into Baga this year, I'm really missing that town smiley

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:58am On Apr 10, 2020
phazotron:



No offence, but U sure say that tiny mosquito go fit do all those things u talk? 12 for $329 million equates to $25m+ each. With that kind of money, we can still do better. What happend to the su25 someone mentioned? We still can't overemphasize the importance of dedicated gunship platforms as well as armed UAVs for 24hr all weather surveillance and attack. Air force needs to address that.

Just check out the bombs we bought from America and cross reference it with the ground attack bombs the US has in it's inventory, you will see that I am right.

Intact, US SOCOM (special forces command) will buy 75 units of Super Tucano to be used by US special forces.

The SU-25 is a much better ground attack plane than the Super Tucano but it lacks these important attributes, low maintenance, ISR capability, Loiter time (over 10 hours) and low flying cost. The Tucano can also be used to train Nigerian air force JF-17 fighter pilots. This is why the Tucano is a better option.

We need a lot of UAVs, not just armed ones. If you look at Russia and Turkey, even Iran in Syria, you will see that they employ a lot of UAVs in combat.

This has proven to be effective.

But Russia and Turkey will use UAVs to track terrorists for hours, when they head back to their base the UAV will relay coordinates to fighter jets that would come and bomb the place or artillery to shell the place. Very effective.




Watch how Turkey used UAVs to trail these guys and neutralized them with F-16 fighter jets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9z8FbJ589s

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:59am On Apr 10, 2020
bidexiii:


Thanks for this man
Guys let do something ?

Let’s compare the Super Tucson vs Su-25 or other jet you would have preferred to get grin grin


https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/compare-aircraft-results.asp?form=form&aircraft1=718&aircraft2=195&Submit=COMPARE
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:03am On Apr 10, 2020
kabe1:


I will search online for a comparison and post.

[/b]The SU-25 is better than the Tucano all round but in terms of the war fare we are facing as Nigerian, the Tucano is better [b]


smiley

yap thats what i said its a COIN assets while the other is a ground attack assets.
weapon delivery, avionics and endurance the tucano leads the Su25 !
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:07am On Apr 10, 2020
phazotron:



E be like say I don dey suspect trump.


JUST thinking out loud, Isnt it even possible for na to buy a couple of big military cargo plane and maybe contract the ruskies to retrofit it if its not possible to buy it ready made because of great satan (USA)?

A gunship like the AC-130 is a very expensive piece of kit. We can buy 3 fighter jets for one gunship.

Not economical.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:07am On Apr 10, 2020
bidexiii:



smiley

yap thats what i said its a COIN assets while the other is a ground attack assets.
weapon delivery, avionics and endurance the tucano leads the Su25 !

I agree.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 10:13am On Apr 10, 2020
bidexiii:


Please don’t even let us go to that era where the likes of Amosun and IHerinjika got hundreds of millions of dollars borrowed to buy new MBT/IFV and jets, last last naa 3rd grade-hand MBT them go buy, Amosun go rent helicopters.
For me too I’ll would have preferred we buy huge numbers of T72 from Russia they have them in thousand rotting. Then build a facility here in Nigeria to upgrade/maintain them, a kind of technology transfer. This would have been a force multiplier but these new babies are incredible.
never know ihejirika was given hundreds of millions to buy MBT/ifv my first time seeing this.

An link?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rugged7(m): 10:38am On Apr 10, 2020
bidexii is obviously lying. Ihejirika was never given any money to buy jets or whatever. Their grouse is that he decimated boko haram while the northern elders were screaming for him to end the offensive.


giles14:
never know ihejirika was given hundreds of millions to buy MBT/ifv my first time seeing this.

An link?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:47am On Apr 10, 2020
Odunayaw:
Thing is I really dislike typing long things. I made reference because that evidence isn't so far lost in the thread.


When you say evidence that means substantiated information.

It's not just an opinion.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:50am On Apr 10, 2020
QuietMynd:
Since there is nothing to discuss again rather than ng vs chad.
Let me drop this

Edinburgh Castle.

This place is very dear to my heart in so many ways, that l can't say really say here.

The first parade ground l ever went to in my life.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:56am On Apr 10, 2020
Toju200:
Rumors are up that Nigeria will soon receive 35 BMP1 from Ukraine...
I heard brand new

Lol very funny.

The BMP1 production stopped in the 1980's and was first introduced by the Russians in the 1960's.

You can pick them up for about $10k per unit or even scrap metal.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 11:30am On Apr 10, 2020
kabe1:








92 soldiers dead in a single attack is the highest tally for Chad, however we should also remember chad only started suffering Book Haram attacks in Chad in 2018.

I added the 36 soldiers Chad also lost in Mali in a single attack.

Where is the evidence that Chad has a better military, especially in dealing with Terrorism than Nigeria?

It's shameful that their are Nigerians supporting Chad over the Nigerian military because of a few PR stunts.

Chad: Boko Haram kills 23 soldiers in Dangdala attack

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2019/03/22/boko-haram-dangdala-chad-raid-gueskerou-niger/

The same day the Chadian army announced that it lost 36 soldiers during the three-month intervention in northern Mali and suffered another 74 wounded. In total the presence of Chadian soldiers in Mali costs the country 57 billion CFA francs (87 million).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chadian_intervention_in_northern_Mali

Boko Haram kills 92 Chadian soldiers in seven-hour attack

11 Chadian soldiers killed in Boko Haram attack: authorities

https://m.guardian.ng/news/world/11-chadian-soldiers-killed-in-boko-haram-attack-authorities/

Over 20 Chadian soldiers 'killed in Boko Haram raid'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/03/20-chadian-soldiers-killed-boko-haram-raid-190322154007633.html


If Nigeria ever shares accurate casualty figures, you will change your nationality to Burkinafaso.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 11:34am On Apr 10, 2020
rugged7:
bidexii is obviously lying. Ihejirika was never given any money to buy jets or whatever. Their grouse is that he decimated boko haram while the northern elders were screaming for him to end the offensive.



Don’t be ridiculous, me and you know that military chiefs like Alex Baden, Amosun and Azubuike Ihejirika and Minimah who spent 4 years plus and 1years plus where exponentially corrupt.
And not forgetting the Father of them all Sambo Dansuki. We are not foolish if you are, you want to tell me you where or aware of there loots undecided

1. Former NSA Sambo Dasuki - Based on EFCC investigations and findings (this is beside the ongoing $2.1 billion military equipment scandal), a total of N126 billion, over $1.5 billion and 5.5million British Pounds was allegedly embezzled through his office.


Lt.-Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika - N4.5 billion. N29million recovered by the EFCC so far.
Alex Badeh, former Chief of Defence Staff - N8 billion, and EFCC recovered almost N4 billion in cash and property already.
Inde Dikko: former CG Customs - N40 billion, and N1.1 billion in cash recovered in cash and choice properties.
Air Marshal Adesola Amosun - N21.4 billion. N2.8 billion recovered in cash. 28 properties and 3 vehicles also recovered.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pulse.ng/news/local/corruption-these-23-names-on-fgs-new-looters-list-will-shock-you/v9xyk09.amp


https://www.google.com/amp/s/businesstodayng.com/fani-kayode-oduah-ladoja-ikimi-ex-service-chiefs-other-make-second-list-of-alleged-looters/amp/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$2_billion_arms_deal

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-35322377

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:43am On Apr 10, 2020
jpphilips:



If Nigeria ever shares accurate casualty figures, you will change your nationality to Burkinafaso.

Bros, this ship has since sailed. Could you quit mentioning my moniker in old topics, thanks.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:04pm On Apr 10, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


You are comparing apples and watermelons. The contract for the T-72s you are talking about were awarded to top brass in the NA. They went and got near-scrap T-72s for less than $100,000 and then sold it to the NA for around $3 million.

I still have Nairaland links to that shit. And yes, it still makes me super angry when I think about it.

What Komekn was saying was that we buy second hand T-72s and massively upgrade them. In case you didn't know, Russian has tens of thousands of these tanks in stock and just parks them cos they are not needed.

We can get them very cheap and that means we can have hundreds of them rolling around our battlefield for the price of what we are paying for these Chinese tanks. Putin might even give some to us for free if we let him spend some private time with Genevieve Nnaji wink

No! Putin can't be as dumb & stupid as the Orange Baboon who was recorded having "Golden Showers" with prostitutes in Moskow in 2013. grin

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7453645/amp/CIA-asset-key-source-golden-showers-anti-Donald-Trump-dossier-claims-Russian.html

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 12:05pm On Apr 10, 2020
There are reports that a gazelle chopper probably owned by a south African PMC was shot down in Mozambique, the situation there seem to be getting rapidly fluid, few months ago there where a band of criminals raiding hamlets, today there are seizing towns.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:45pm On Apr 10, 2020
Whyem15:

Exactly what I have been pointing out. France has a reason to see Nigeria destroyed because of our past diplomatic relations with them. They have air assets in all these countries surrounding us , yet they've never for once deployed them against bokoharam. US has two drone bases in Niger, one in Cameroon yet the same thing.
Jonathan wanted to end this war in 2014/15 so that he could get reelected, they blocked all the arms deal he made, even those he tried making secretely.
We wanted to purchase cobra helicopters from Israel, they blicked it.
Even if we are serious about ending this war which we are not currently, we will face a lot of challenges from these people who haven't for once scratched bokoharam.
They don't even help us with intelligence.
All you need do is go on sipri and see the quantity of weapons transfer in the last 10 years from US to nigeria and compare with Egypt's that get a lot in aids from US.

You know nothing about global politics. Why will France or US sacrifice their people to save bloody Nigerians, what makes you think Nigerians are worth it to them?
How will they convince their people to support that senseless action, you forgot they are advanced democracies?

France can do it for Cameroon, Chad, Niger, Mali, CIV because they surrender 60% of their wealth to France, why will France do it for you?
No need to mention the US, can you pay the US to fight your battles?

You think sensible countries will sacrifice their people for a useless refinery like we did in Sierra leone & Liberia?
Look at your mouth & sense of entitlement, they should fight for you, are they your house boys?

if you can't fight your battles why did you bother asking the same global powers to grant you Sovereignty? You would've remained an overseas British territory so British SAS will fight for you.
Nonsense!!

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