Zoharariel:


No! Putin can't be as dumb & stupid as the Orange Baboon who was recorded having "Golden Showers" with prostitutes in Moskow in 2013.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7453645/amp/CIA-asset-key-source-golden-showers-anti-Donald-Trump-dossier-claims-Russian.html

bidexiii:



Tiny but the sting will bring hell and destruction from above.
This Tucano jet is specially designed for COIN operation and quote me there is no assets in its class that cheap, easy to maintain, that can bring destruction to terrorist, precise munition and targeting system .......etc

I know why some people don’t like this jet, one it’s a turbo-aircraft and solely for COIN and it can never be used for air power projection. But we have a serious internal problem we need to deal with, we can always get aircraft meant for our air space cover and power projection in the nearest future. Until few days ago no body knew the army was doing some serious shopping which deal was activated almost a year ago.
Who and some equipment are still coming in from Russia and Eastern Europe.

phazotron:



E be like say I don dey suspect trump.


JUST thinking out loud, Isnt it even possible for na to buy a couple of big military cargo plane and maybe contract the ruskies to retrofit it if its not possible to buy it ready made because of great satan (USA)?

kabe1:


A gunship like the AC-130 is a very expensive piece of kit. We can buy 3 fighter jets for one gunship.

Not economical.

Whyem15:

Now, I'm not disputing the fact that the political class is corrupt and have been embezzling funds for buying weapons, but when these funds were made available, were we allowed to get them? Do you know the number of arms deals involving Nigeria that was blocked under the guise of "human rights violations" by those who sell tons of weapons to saudi and UAE yearly?
This problem is both internal and external, the earlier we accept that that of external is the one destroying us most the better.

phazotron:



So what about buying a standard military cargo transport and outfitting it?

jpphilips:


Enough of that Arms embargo nonsense, how long has Iran, Cuba & Venezuela been under arms embargo?
Did it stop Iran from ranking 14th militarily ahead of Israel, Australia & Spain?
Leahy's ban was too narrow for any sensible government to complain about in a life & death matter, how about countries like Libya under a global arms embargo have they complained? did a global arms embargo stop Gen Haftar from attacking the Tripoli government?

Sensible leaders break umbrages to get results, Nigerian politicians sell dumb narratives to their dumb populace.

The same government under ban got Chinese MRAPS, got a Private military contractor for elections, bought the first set of Chinese combat drones. When its convenient, they remind you of Leahy's ban, did Leahy's ban stop them from stashing your money abroad?

If the US refused to sell him a Tucano, go to Russia and get a Yak 130 after all, Obasanjo got all our interceptors from China, stop making excuses for that loser!

GabrielYulaw:


We don't need to contract the Russkies. South Africa is more than capable of turning just about any cargo plane into a gunship.

QuietMynd:

2 star general pleading.
What type if lie.

Lol, i was taking ur post seriously, until i saw that screenshot.
U can do better than following that wailing waller on twitter.
That twitter handle can lie.

BlackBaron:

US will never sell AC 130 or F 22 raptor to even its closest allies.

Closest to an AC 130 is the AC 295 with 30mm canons, missiles and sensors.

GabrielYulaw:


Easily doable. The US did a lot of that in Vietnam.

GabrielYulaw:


And? There are many other things the US does not sell its closest allies. Ever seen an American ally using a Nimitz Aircraft Carrier? And why would the allies buy the Raptor when the JSF is supposedly miles better?

Look, building a gunship is not rocket science. You just have to sit down and understand what you need and the tools you need for the job. You can even model it on computers to know how the armament would change the flight behavior of the plane. There is no science to it. In Vietnam the US even put gun and rocket pods, plus miniguns on light planes. Nothing is stopping us from copying that, but with more modern modifications.

Toju200:
it's not the best but we'll use what we have
New platforms are coming.its better late than never
If not for Obama's sanctions and blocking the tucano,Cobra and chinnok helicopters would have been here

jpphilips:


What are you saying? Obama stopped you from buying a Chinook? a strategic lift helicopter?
stop dreaming, there is no way in the world the US will sell Chinook to a country like Nigeria. ban or no ban, that bird is off limits to you.

Tucano has a Russian equivalent, the YAK 130, why did your government not get it?
Oh! Russia put you on a ban too.
When you lie to yourself for long, it becomes your reality.

If the US refused to sell you a Cobra, why didn't he get an Mi-24?
stop making excuses for that Buffoon.

jln115:
If some people actually understood COIN warfare then they wouldn't be saying Nigeria should've gotten more T-72s.................

Firstly because its COIN warfare, you aint going to drive columns of Tanks in to the battle field!! thus what's the point in buying 100 T-72, when you are only going to have a handful in the battle field in the first place?

Secondly what's the most common anti tank weapon used by rebels/insurgence? its the RPG, Now I don't know if any of you have seen what an RPG-7 can do to a T-72? it cooks it, that's what it does. The VT4 on the other hand would shrug of an RPG-7 hit as if its nothing, the only thing that can destroy a VT4 is modern ATGMs and modern RPG-28s which aren't freely available to Insurgence like BH.

Coupled with the SH-5 105mm(C130 transportable) and ST1 AFV this has been so far one of the smartest Nigerian defence force acquisitions to date!!

jpphilips:


What are you saying? Obama stopped you from buying a Chinook? a strategic lift helicopter?
stop dreaming, there is no way in the world the US will sell Chinook to a country like Nigeria. ban or no ban, that bird is off limits to you.

Tucano has a Russian equivalent, the YAK 130, why did your government not get it?
Oh! Russia put you on a ban too.
When you lie to yourself for long, it becomes your reality.

If the US refused to sell you a Cobra, why didn't he get an Mi-24?
stop making excuses for that Buffoon.

phazotron:



So what about buying a standard military cargo transport and outfitting it?

jpphilips:


What are you saying? Obama stopped you from buying a Chinook? a strategic lift helicopter?
stop dreaming, there is no way in the world the US will sell Chinook to a country like Nigeria. ban or no ban, that bird is off limits to you.

Tucano has a Russian equivalent, the YAK 130, why did your government not get it?
Oh! Russia put you on a ban too.
When you lie to yourself for long, it becomes your reality.

If the US refused to sell you a Cobra, why didn't he get an Mi-24?
stop making excuses for that Buffoon.

phazotron:



Someone said 15 for $600m. Very cost ineffective bro. I Don't think that's true sha. And from the screenshot, it isn't what we need. We are not fighting in a low cost environment. we need heavily built, full cas attack aircraft that have endurance capabilities and can pummel BH 3 hours nonstop. These tucanos isn't just it. We could have gotten more su25s, mi35, ka25s, a ton of attack drones and the Russian equivalent of the ac130 and b52 bomber.


I think the air force leadership needs some real punishment/sanctioning. They're pretty much the reason why our bases fall to BH and our boys have to retreat from time to time. In the general Adeniyi video, man complained they came under at least 100 RPGs fired from BH. They were flanked on all sides. So many stories of no air support during a 2-3hr gunfight whereas in the us army it would have been the opposite. Na air force bombers go dey do d work while marines go dey flex.

phazotron:



The army needs to Invest more in battlefield communication and coordination. Our Intelligence gathering agencies are asleep.

My grouse with the super tucano is that the aircraft doesn't seem to have sufficient armor protection to be able to withstand potential aa gun attacks and whatever BH/iswap might want to fire at it built in as well as multiple redundancies to reduce the risk of a crash due to enemy fire. Because BH isn't fielding manpads now doesn't mean they won't try to shoot down our air assets. Theyve fielded aa guns before. We need something that'll survive any BH onslaught while performing 2-3 hrs cas for the army. My 2 cents.

jpphilips:


What are you saying? Obama stopped you from buying a Chinook? a strategic lift helicopter?
stop dreaming, there is no way in the world the US will sell Chinook to a country like Nigeria. ban or no ban, that bird is off limits to you.

Tucano has a Russian equivalent, the YAK 130, why did your government not get it?
Oh! Russia put you on a ban too.
When you lie to yourself for long, it becomes your reality.

If the US refused to sell you a Cobra, why didn't he get an Mi-24?
stop making excuses for that Buffoon.

joshingjosh:



this sanction you are talking about... Just seeing Cobra and chinook helicopter give me Erection..can u please provide the link where Nigeria requested for Chinook and Cobra??

GabrielYulaw:


Toju won't you ever tire of blaming Obama for the inadequacies of the Nigerian army and airforce? Did Obama also stop us from buying stuff from China, South Africa, India, Russia and Egypt? Or Eastern Europe? Doesn't South Africa manufacture Super Hinds and even the Rooivak? The Tucano you are talking about, are there not equivalents we can get cheaper and sooner elsewhere? The weapons we use now, are most not from Russia and the Soviet Union, so why the sudden love for American weaponry?
And as regards heavy lift helicopters, don't the Russians have the Mil Mi 26 Halo? What stopped us from buying these massive choppers as Algeria long since have? Or what stopped us from buying masses of Mil Mi 8 and 17s? What stopped us from buying platforms from other countries other than the US and massively upgrading the stuff we already have by giving them better avionics, engines, weapons and sensors?

Kindly leave Obama out of this please and find someone else within Nigeria to blame. Your excuse is wack and weak and I am very tired of hearing shit like that.

jpphilips:


Kenya got a Cobra to fight Alshabab, so the US would've considered selling to Nigeria if we asked, Jonathan's administration had a lot of money unfortunately the guy has the IQ of a housefly with a PhD.

BlackBaron:


F22 Raptor still possesses some technology and components more advanced than the F35. The latter was made when costs for The Raptor kept spilling over budget hence they decided on an alternate version which became F35.

Besides gunships can range from extremely elaborate like AC130 which can handle recoils like from 105mm howitzers to modular ones like the M27 Praetorian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBabUtUMdA

Thanks to the declassified documents of the CIA, an interesting fact became known : presumably until 2008, Morocco did not have the capabilities to intercept MiG-25 fighters .

as it was mentioned in CIA report, a two MiG-25s entered the Moroccan airspace in the southern part of the country till the Atlantic Ocean and went home through Western Sahara


The air superiority of the Algerian Air Force over its Moroccan counterpart was evident in that period through the fighter models that were owned by Algeria at that time.

The report also stated that between the years 1982-1983 there were also many “suspicious” MiG-25 flights over Morocco.

the repeated flight of Algerian fighters over Morocco and the violation of neighboring countries such as Spain led to the countries making decisions to conclude deals to repel the Algerian breakthroughs. After that, Spain obtained qualitative deals from F-18 fighters and Aegis systems

phazotron:



The army needs to Invest more in battlefield communication and coordination. Our Intelligence gathering agencies are asleep.

My grouse with the super tucano is that the aircraft doesn't seem to have sufficient armor protection to be able to withstand potential aa gun attacks and whatever BH/iswap might want to fire at it. Because BH isn't fielding manpads now doesn't mean they won't try to shoot down our air assets. Theyve fielded aa guns before. We need something that'll survive any BH onslaught while performing 2-3 hrs cas for the army. My 2 cents.

kemicalreact:
Yeah, I'm quite surprised by Algeria and Egypt's case, even Serbia (a strong Russian ally) was threatened when they wanted to buy the S400

I think Nigeria should go for Russian weapons. They're cheaper, reliable and their delivery would not have any political undertone. We should have gone for the Su 25 equipped with latest avionics instead of going for that Super Tucano which won't be delivered at anytime soon. The Su 25 is the perfect platform for this COIN war judging by its performance against terrorists in Syria.

The problem lies with the decision makers and I doubt the president's situational awareness of what's going on in the North East. The man is senile and old, but I don't really blame him.

Alll

bidex111:
Gods speed #bushmasters
#AFSF

Whyem15:
https://allafrica.com/stories/201412291911.html
This is a link I found about saudi refusing to grant flight permit to plane conveying Nigeria's weapons in 2014.
I am sure there was another incident that Nigerian boumd weapons were siezed. Will keep search4 though.