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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 11:49pm On Apr 10, 2020
My all-time EPL 11:

---------------Petr Cech-------------

--G. Neville--Carvalho--Terry---A. Cole--

--------------Makalele-------------

--Ronaldo---Lampard--Scholes---Giggs---

----------------Henry-------------
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:50pm On Apr 10, 2020
Expert17:


Shearer is there only because of his record goals....

Giggs should be there because of his record assists, appearance, title, scoring in 20 straight season, expliot on the wing....

As for Roy keane....maybe you want me to move lampard....because i can't bench Scholes for anybody.


Shearers goal record puts him far and above anyone else. You would need to score 26 league goals 10 years in a row to match him. You have a recency bias because Shearer in the 1990s is untouchable, which is probably the same reason you left out Keane.

Scholes must chop bench. You can't drop Keane or Lampard.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 12:45am On Apr 11, 2020
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 1:32am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:


I believe he is the first and only player to win WPOTY while playing in EPL. That deserves a spot.
Winning WPOTY is inconsequential. Using league exploits Ronaldo did not perform anything to be included in an epl all time 11.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:26am On Apr 11, 2020
Godx:

Winning WPOTY is inconsequential. Using league exploits Ronaldo did not perform anything to be included in an epl all time 11.

What spectacular things did Scholes do as a central midfielder in 19yrs, to deserve it?

If Ronaldo didn't do anything, Scholes should not near the bench of epl all time 11.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 2:29am On Apr 11, 2020
airmark:


What spectacular things did Scholes do as a central midfielder in 19yrs, to deserve it?

If Ronaldo didn't do anything, Scholes should not near the bench of epl all time 11.
My post has nothing to do with Scholes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:32am On Apr 11, 2020
Godx:

My post has nothing to do with Scholes.

Just telling you that if Ronaldo doesn't deserve it, 60% of those you may pick, may not deserve it.

Who are in your epl best 11 ever?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 2:36am On Apr 11, 2020
airmark:


Just telling you that if Ronaldo doesn't deserve it, 60% of those you may pick, may not deserve it.

Who are in your epl best 11 ever?
What league exploits give ronaldo a spot in an epl all time 11?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:49am On Apr 11, 2020
Godx:

What league exploits give ronaldo a spot in an epl all time 11?

I asked of your epl team first bro. You answered with a question. Let's see if all your players did better than Ronaldo when they played in epl.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 2:53am On Apr 11, 2020
airmark:


I asked of your epl team first bro. You answered with a question. Let's see if all your players did better than Ronaldo when they played in epl.
The discussion is not about my epl team. If you can't make an argument for Ronaldo using his exploits in the league on why he should get a spot then forget about it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:58am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:


Shearers goal record puts him far and above anyone else. You would need to score 26 league goals 10 years in a row to match him. You have a recency bias because Shearer in the 1990s is untouchable, which is probably the same reason you left out Keane.

Scholes must chop bench. You can't drop Keane or Lampard.

People need to put some respek on Shearer's name when it comes to EPL. If Shearer had come to Man Utd like Fergie wanted and had been receiving passes and crosses from Giggs and Becks in the 90s the record would have been 300 goals.

It is difficult to pick an all time 11 for the EPL. Everybody will have different opinions and even if you ask the same person twice on different days he is likely to change his mind.

The formation also matters. Is it 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-3.

RB: Neville, Ivanovic
LB: Cashley, Evra
CB: Adams, Ferdinand, Stam, Terry, Carvalho, Vidic
MD: Keane, Scholes, Vieira, Lampard, Gerrard, Makalele
FW: Shearer, Giggs, Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo, Aguero

Schmeichel, Keane, Shearer are definite inclusions for me though. At this moment, lol.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:15am On Apr 11, 2020

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:40am On Apr 11, 2020
Ronaldo didn't quite do so much in the EPL to be considered in any all time 11. In between the sticks, I'll take Schmeichel, at RB, G. Neville, RCB - Cavarlho, LCB - Vidic, LB - Cole...
I'll have a 3 man midfield with Scholes and Keane at the base and Lampard at the top of the triangle...
In attack, I will have Giggs providing the width with Shearer as the CF partnered Henry playing slightly out right...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 7:42am On Apr 11, 2020
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Although, he is still asymptotic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 7:45am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
Ronaldo didn't quite do so much in the EPL to be considered in any all time 11.
For someone who won WPOTY as the first and last person from EPL, what else is to "do well"? I blame Ferguson for playing him out of position during his early days.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:51am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
For someone who won WPOTY as the first and last person from EPL, what else is to "do well"? I blame Ferguson for playing him out of position during his early days.
What do you mean by out of position? Ronaldo was always a winger. In fact, it was at Manchester United that he was coached to develop the other aspects of his game away from dribbling. Ronaldo won the WPOTY award that season because Manchester United won the UCL and eliminated Barcelona in the semis. If we had won just the EPL and Barcelona, the UCL, Messi would have won it. I trust you already know that in that time, the UCL was a big determinant except of course in a world cup year.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:55am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
What do you mean by out of position? Ronaldo was always a winger. In fact, it was at Manchester United that he was coached to develop the other aspects of his game away from dribbling. Ronaldo won the WPOTY award that season because Manchester United won the UCL and eliminated Barcelona in the semis. If we had won just the EPL and Barcelona, the UCL, Messi would have won it. I trust you already know that in that time, the UCL was a big determinant except of course in a world cup year.
I wanted to ask him the same question about out of position.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 7:59am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
What do you mean by out of position? Ronaldo was always a winger. In fact, it was at Manchester United that he was coached to develop the other aspects of his game away from dribbling. Ronaldo won the WPOTY award that season because Manchester United won the UCL and eliminated Barcelona in the semis. If we had won just the EPL and Barcelona, the UCL, Messi would have won it. I trust you already know that in that time, the UCL was a big determinant except of course in a world cup year.
Ronaldo played as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation, how is that different from playing as a midfielder? I'm sure he had nothing to do with Man united winning UCL? For someone that came close to winning WPOTY in 2007 and with at least 4 years of consistency. The Gary Neville that is on the list, how many good years did he had?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:59am On Apr 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:
I wanted to ask him the same question about out of position.
I tire o! It just shows a lot of folks are mentioning Ronaldo for his exploits now rather than referencing his time in England. He was a very good player during his time in the EPL, he had on great season and about 2 very good ones other than that, he just had good seasons...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:07am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
What do you mean by out of position? Ronaldo was always a winger. In fact, it was at Manchester United that he was coached to develop the other aspects of his game away from dribbling. Ronaldo won the WPOTY award that season because Manchester United won the UCL and eliminated Barcelona in the semis. If we had won just the EPL and Barcelona, the UCL, Messi would have won it. I trust you already know that in that time, the UCL was a big determinant except of course in a world cup year.

The guy you are arguing with was 7 yrs old when Fergie bought Ronaldo.
You are on a long thing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:07am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
Ronaldo played as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation, how is that different from playing as a midfielder? I'm sure he had nothing to do with Man united winning UCL? For someone that came close to winning WPOTY in 2007 and with at least 4 years of consistency. The Gary Neville that is on the list, how many good years did he had?
You don't understand my point, do you? Whatever he did to help us win the UCL is inconsequential when talking about his EPL exploits. Having a good run in the UCL is enough to earn you the Balon D'or in most cases. Gary Neville was consistent for a long period of time and it counts when you are talking about all time 11s of a league. Ronaldo's peak years was in Madrid, for an all time La Liga 11, he'll definitely be there but not the EPL where I will even place Rooney and Aguero ahead of him.

I'm sure if I asked for an all time Serie A 11, most folks will have Ronaldo in there when he shouldn't be anywhere close to that list.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:07am On Apr 11, 2020
This was the team officially selected as the BEST 11 in EPL during the 20th anniversary 1992-2013.............

Schmeichel

Neville. Adams. Ferdinard Cole


C.Ronaldo R.Keane P.Scholes R.Giggs


T.Henry A. Shearer
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:09am On Apr 11, 2020
afrodoc2:


The guy you are arguing with was 7 yrs old when Fergie bought Ronaldo.
You are on a long thing.
Lol but at least with the internet, he has enough resources online to educate himself...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:09am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
Ronaldo played as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation, how is that different from playing as a midfielder? I'm sure he had nothing to do with Man united winning UCL? For someone that came close to winning WPOTY in 2007 and with at least 4 years of consistency. The Gary Neville that is on the list, how many good years did he had?

Mention a Right back that had better years in that position

Please dnt mention Ivanovic grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 8:12am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
You don't understand my point, do you? Whatever he did to help us win the UCL is inconsequential when talking about his EPL exploits. Having a good run in the UCL is enough to earn you the Balon D'or in most cases. Gary Neville was consistent for a long period of time and it counts when you are talking about all time 11s of a league. Ronaldo's peak years was in Madrid, for an all time La Liga 11, he'll definitely be there but not the EPL where I will even place Rooney and Aguero ahead of him.

I'm sure if I asked for an all time Serie A 11, most folks will have Ronaldo in there when he shouldn't be anywhere close to that list.
Maybe in your EPL 11, but ESPN (who I think started it first) and others who have him there aren't dumb to put him there. Are you bringing Rooney and Aguero to play the LW because they do not merit their primary role or just to dislodge Ronaldo?


I know you to be the Midget fan boy, so no big deal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 8:14am On Apr 11, 2020
Expert17:


Mention a Right back that had better years in that position

Please dnt mention Ivanovic grin grin grin grin
You mentioned it yourself, Arsenal's Sagna and Arnold will be among the conversation in few years if he can maintain the consistency.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:14am On Apr 11, 2020
EPL All time XI and Ronaldo should make the list? undecided

EPL oh

Wonderful grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 8:15am On Apr 11, 2020
afrodoc2:


The guy you are arguing with was 7 yrs old when Fergie bought Ronaldo.
You are on a long thing.
Use your head, how old were you when Pele and Maradona played?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:20am On Apr 11, 2020
Bacary Sagna? grin

LOL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:21am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
You mentioned it yourself, Arsenal's Sagna and Arnold will be among the conversation in few years if he can maintain the consistency.

Sagna cant make arsenal EPL best 11........... you hvnt heard of Lee Dixon.

Arnold kor schwarzenegger ni
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:26am On Apr 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
Lol but at least with the internet, he has enough resources online to educate himself...

No be everybody get that kind data.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 8:31am On Apr 11, 2020
Expert17:


Sagna cant make arsenal EPL best 11........... you hvnt heard of Lee Dixon.

Arnold kor schwarzenegger ni
You can have whoever on your EPL 11 while I have mine wink. There is no law that says it must be consensual. grin

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