Anyone who reads the bible will spot human like attributes e.g God is jealous, has anger issues, sits on a throne etc. The streets of Heaven is made of Gold, Y gold? Cos gold was one of d most precious elements during their time, so it was an easy Guess 4 heaven to b made of Gold, Y not somtin else? Maybe the Chariot of Fire was even a space ship, who knows

odizeey:

Did anyone tell you spiritual manifestation is limited to pastors?

Nope,the problem here is chris angel calls it "magic" and pastor chris calls it "miracle".
Hence what differentiate "miracle" from "magic"

Godx:


We know the Universe had a beginning. Atheists/ Scientist need to explain who created it? There is no rational way you can convince me or anybody that the singularity was eternal and it then caused the big bang and now we have DNA and our complex respiratory system due to an explosion that happened for no reason. The best salesman in the world couldn't even sell that. Scientist are fixated on proving their is no higher being called God that they are ready to say anything even when it's completely senseless.

I mean take a look at your yourself or even your dog. Do people you really believe an explosion occurred for no reason and with no intelligent design and eventually you came out looking like this lol. That's a tough sell and nobody is buying it.

But Saying God Did It Would Convince You?.
How did GOD come to existence?

gensteejay:

Lol, ignorance your problem. You sound like an illiterate that says complex analysis is a stupid concept in Mathematics, since we can't see complex numbers in real life.

However, these things you call farcical in your ignorance have many applications in real life and are based on a very logical body of proofs/paradigms.

When you learn to view things without the myopic lens of religion, you will cease to comment on issues you know very little or nothing of.

Why insults?.

simonjassy:

Nope,the problem here is chris angel calls it "magic" and pastor chris calls it "miracle".
Hence what differentiate "miracle" from "magic"

My own is not to tell you the difference. I'll just tell you with the power of God miracles can be done.

These magicians give you guys explanation for every magic cause you love knowledge. Try them at home na. Since you know how they do it. My brother, no be everything be one plus one.

odizeey:

My own is not to tell you the difference. I'll just tell you with the power of God miracles can be done.

These magicians give you guys explanation for every magic cause you love knowledge. Try them at home na. Since you know how they do it. My brother, no be everything be one plus one.

so how then do you know who is using the "power of GOD"?.cause on the surface there appears to be no difference.Basically,if an ex- magician then choses to become a religious leader,how do we know if his "miracles" are indeed "miracles" or that he is still using "magic" as the core?.
Not all magicians do that.by the way, what do you mean by "you love knowledge"?, don't you love knowledge?.
There are simple card tricks,i myself can do because i understand the mathematical concept behind it.Believe me,when i tell you that the first time i saw these card tricks,it felt beyond comprehension.

airmark:


What they told Nigeria is to protect Nigeria, and they will protect their country, since Nigeria have refused to take over the seized Boko haram territories.

Are you saying we dont have wherewithal to stop any invasion from Chad?

It seems you are not understanding this issue.

Chad needs to protect their side of the lake Chad region, no one will go into their side of the border to protect that region for them. It’s the same thing they have been doing since, leaving their side of the lake Chad region open, that’s where BKH uses to launch attack against Nigeria and retreat when our military are on the offensive.

Talking about an invasion, Chad won’t even think about it, are these braggadocio you are ascribing to them only end on social media.

gensteejay:

Do you know the big bang model? If you do, you will realize that even though it's an established fact in nature that the universe came into existence via a big bang (expansion of a singularity into space and time, and not explosion as the name may suggest), there are many areas about the origin of the universe that are still under research.

Science hasn't reached its pinnacle, and the world of science is constantly evolving, just like everything else in nature is.

Science has only scratched the surface when it comes to discovering mysteries of life; a discovery often brings about loads of questions.

There are many areas under the big bang model that are currently under active research, and in the future, more breakthroughs will still be made.

@ bolded, who establishes this fact? You?

gensteejay:

Just like Yeshua (the real person Christians ignorantly call Jesus) was a great magician, illusionist, and a trickster during his time on earth, today's pastorprenuers also are.

People that read various literature on the history of the universe and the gods of religions, Allah, Olohun, Yahweh, Yeshua know that those dubious personalities (pastors) only emulate Yeshua with his many tricks of magia, deceit, and lies.

Just like pastors (and most Christians) and lies are an in separable pair, Mohammed (and most conservative Muslims) and violence and love of bloodshed are also cojoined entities.

The series of miracles in the Bible and Qur'an are nothing but illusions (tricks) that are not real. People with deep knowledge of some life's mysteries can twist an ignorant person's reality as they see fit.

For instance, a whole object can be made to appear broken by a skilled trickster (magician).

The normal human vision can only see visible waves; but those that have knowledge of seeing or manipulating other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum (infra-red, micro-waves, radio waves, etc.) can twist the physical realities of ignorant folks using illusionary tricks.

Many of such tricks of magia abound in Qur'an and the Bible.

U would have added "in my opinion" at the end bros


I have personally pertook in voodoo that works to the fullest.

You probably haven't,thus,u don't believe in God and Evil.

Don't generalized it....Thanks

airmark:


Morrocans like to showboat a lot in the midfield. I played with some of them when i was in Dubai. They were annoying with the ball. They actually told me Okocha was their best Nigerian player, because of his bag of tricks.

My style of play is like Martins', but i will say i could dribble more than him as i started as a right winger.

Before i leave nairaland, i will drop one gif of one of my goals. ; D

when would that be? Because it seems to me like infinito.

diggz:


I've had enough of your nonsense my guy. Provide empirical proofs/mathematical basis of your real god( your source) or fcxk off from this place with your confused rants.

Who are you to say the highlighted? Something is definitely wrong with your brain.

When you learn how to talk like a normal person, I will engage you.

You can ask your all-knowing god for proofs. I have no god and have nothing to prove to a deranged fool!

larride:


@ bolded, who establishes this fact? You?

Established by a series of experiments and observations by a lot of scientists.

While there are other models that attempt to explain the origin and evolution of the universe, the big bang model is the widely accepted model by a large number of scientists.

airmark:


Exactly. If you dribble an opponent in a vital area, you have given your team a crucial numerical advantage.

Pele, Maradona, Messi, C. Ronaldo, say no more.

Exactly how it is on the bolded but very surprising that most people tend not to see it this way but rather shakushaku

Wetin P.N Okeke no go see ontop wannabe scientist of NL.

The real supreme god(the source), yet unknown.

The confused one!

Thecassanova:
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind"- Albert Einstein 1954

In the 80's Prof Keith Moore, a renowned professor of embryology in Canada authored 3rd edition of a book "The Developing Human" (one of the best medical book written by a single author) using some facts he came across in the Qur'an. Complete embryological stage of human development was stepwise narrated and Dr Keith Moore attests to this. No human without a divine origin over 1400 years ago will have predicted correctly the form of embryo & three veils of foetus darkness without a microscope. Even the Prof had no knowledge at then that the embryo in the initial stage appears like a leech, not until he observed with a powerful microscope. Prof Moore upon reading & verifying the scriptures he said, "If I was asked these questions thirty years ago, I wouldn't have been able to answer half of them for lack of scientific information, hence the verse must truly have come from a divine origin". Dr Joe Leigh Simpson chairman of Obstetrics & Gynaecology in Baylor college Houston USA even attest to these scriptures and expressed that religion may guide science by past revelation to scientific approaches.

Another Prof, Tagatat Tejasen acclaimed a scientific fact. Sense of feeling and pain was thought to depend only on the brain, not until studies prove that there are pain receptors underneath the skin. IF the pain receptors are burned & destroyed you can't feel pain any more. That's why doctors use a pinprick to verify the degree of burns. However, the Qur'an already mentioned this 1400 years ago. The Professor of anatomy after spending a great amount of time on research on pain receptor couldn't believe this when shown the verse, he verified it & converted. There are many more of the modern scientific facts in past scriptures like that acknowledged by 18th 19th-century scientists.

You can't tell me many science theories collaborated in holy scriptures written around 7th-century that relates to 21st-century modern astronomy (earth egg-shaped, the orbit of sun & moon), embryology, physics (splitting of an atom), oceanology (physical barrier when two oceans meet), biology (all creation made out of water etc), botany (everything made in pairs, plants & animals), zoology (ants lifestyle) and so on are not from a divine origin.

Every Aboki with hin kettle abeg, believe what you believe with verifiable evidence.

As a former Muslim, I understand your view quite well. I even have the literature you made that quote from here.

By the time you learn the history of older religions that predate Christianity and Islam, you will realize your religion isn't the origin of virtually every concept in it.

Almost every aspect of your religion has its roots in old paganistic beliefs.

Both Qur'an and the Bible were plagiarized from older religious texts. So both religions have many paganistic practices.

Christians are celebrating Easter now. But most of them don't know it's a festival with roots in paganism.

Who was Easter (Ishtar)? There are many resources online about the ancient goddess.

Science didn't just start today, even from the books on histories of religions I read, older (extinct) civilizations were more technologically advanced than us.

When Allah tells you in the Qur'an that he created man, he didn't use magic. He used science (biogenetics).

Yahweh also makes the same (creation) claim in the Bible. If you study texts of old Egyptian religions, you will see how their gods and goddesses designed a vessel (body) and put a soul in it.

In ancient Egypt, it was a common practice among the gods and goddesses there to capture a soul in a container.

All these technologies the gods and goddesses used are lost/hidden and are very advanced, much more than today's science.

Comparing ancient sciences with modern ones is like comparing a 10,000-year old institution to another one that's less than a thousand years old.

Science and technology isn't new, as most tend to believe.

In conclusion, it's important to read wide and learn history.

When you do that, you'll realize most of the things in your religion didn't originate from it, but from much older religions, who are now dead.

Just as people die, religions, languages also do. And today's religions will face the same fate (death) of the older religions.

Singapore1:


gensteejay is obviously an agnostic

ibime is someone who believe in christ i guess but doesn't believe in certain doctrine ( he hates Pentecostal e.g them adeboye, t.b joshua, chris , oyedepo etc )

BlueRayDick issues is with some pastors

iamoyindamola is probably a muslim but doesnt believe in certain doctrine in islam too ( but favours islam in all his conversation )

digzz izzou airmark odizeey Greatihex ( this one is probably a pastor ) and co full blown christian who believe in tithes and will pay tithes till they die

bro dayo doesn't like modern day christian


the rest i didnt mention probably fall in any of the listed categories

I am not a pastor, prophet, apostle, teacher or evangelist, but I will not refuse to answer if I am called to be one.

Having said that, just like my denomination believe, I believe in the priesthood of all believers. Christ was not referring to pastors alone when he said this,

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

So, "you can do all things through Christ that strengthens you," is not for pastors alone.

Although, one might require a specially anointed man of God/another person as a key to the answer to some of his requests, but in general the power to has been given to all believers.



What you see happening to some people here is that there are now many false prophets and true men of God that have deviated from the truth, this has in turn caused the love of many for the things of God to grow cold. We now have atheist etc as a result.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBw2xcV_H4o

But, instead of going ahead to insult these men of God that have deviated, we should instead pray for them that they should return to the truth. The devil always target the head (pastors), because he knows that when he gives the pastor a false message and he begins to preach it, many believer (especially those not rooted in the word) will be deceived.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA5f66lAHrw

Do not be ignorant of the devices of the devil. The devil can sometimes masquerade as the angel of light to deceive, even the elect. That is why the days will be shortened.

The life we are living here on earth is not our own, if it was our own we would have to choose when to die, which if judging by the nature of humans, we would choose never to die. But because it is not our life, we don't have a choice whatsoever on when the will be gone.

We all want to live eternal life, but eternal live can never be achieved with this corrupted flesh that we have. Until we lose our lives to christ, we will not have it.
"He who wants to keep his life will lose it (eternal lose), but he who loses his live will have it (eternal life).

The devil is not interested on what we have here on earth, no. The devil is only interested in your soul, which he wants to be eternally condemned the way he has already been condemned. He wants to use us to mock Jesus Christ, that the death he died on the cross will be in vain. That is why the devil can give you riches and every pleasures of the world, while leaving you with the spirit of, fornication, adultery, idolatry, lies, so that in the end when he is tired of using you to draw other people to his kingdom, he can then kill the person, who will then be eternally condemned, but a lot of people don't know this.

This dominion over the earth which was given to man by God in Eden was stolen from man when Adam disobeyed, but we can return to that dominion when we return to God through Christ.

So, whatever we do, we should know that we will SURELY give account of how we lived our life here on earth. A lot of people will be shocked to discover the truth when they die, but then it will be too late to repent. So, repent now and have a relationship with Christ your saviour, so that you will be able to rise with him on the last days and not die the second death.

The message of Christ is not to scare you, but to give you hope.
Amen.

SirAce:
Anyone who reads the bible will spot human like attributes e.g God is jealous, has anger issues, sits on a throne etc. The streets of Heaven is made of Gold, Y gold? Cos gold was one of d most precious elements during their time, so it was an easy Guess 4 heaven to b made of Gold, Y not somtin else? Maybe the Chariot of Fire was even a space ship, who knows

Has this changed?

gensteejay:

As a former Muslim, I understand your view quite well. I even have the literature you made that quote from here.

By the time you learn the history of older religions that predate Christianity and Islam, you will realize your religion isn't the origin of virtually every concept in it.

Almost every aspect of your religion has its roots in old paganistic beliefs.

Both Qur'an and the Bible were plagiarized from older religious texts. So both religions have many paganistic practices.

Christians are celebrating Easter now. But most of them don't know it's a festival with roots in paganism.

Who was Easter (Ishtar)? There are many resources online about the ancient goddess.

Science didn't just start today, even from the books on histories of religions I read, older (extinct) civilizations were more technologically advanced than us.

When Allah tells you in the Qur'an that he created man, he didn't use magic. He used science (biogenetics).

Yahweh also makes the same (creation) claim in the Bible. If you study texts of old Egyptian religions, you will see how their gods and goddesses designed a vessel (body) and put a soul in it.

In ancient Egypt, it was a common practice among the gods and goddesses there to capture a soul in a container.

All these technologies the gods and goddesses used are lost/hidden and are very advanced, much more than today's science.

Comparing ancient sciences with modern ones is like comparing a 10,000-year old institution to another one that's less than a thousand years old.

Science and technology isn't new, as most tend to believe.

In conclusion, it's important to read wide and learn history.

When you do that, you'll realize most of the things in your religion didn't originate from it, but from much older religions, who are now dead.

Just as people die, religions, languages also do. And today's religions will face the same fate (death) of the older religions.

abeg o, no vex. I would like to know how the big bang model made humans to speak different languages?

Was it caused by different waves that were present in the places they travelled to? Were the waves the technology of the Egyptian gods and goddesses?

Una no dey tire?!?!

Guess the match below joor and the scoreline....

Larride, what is the government doing about our health personell in the field fighting this virus?

There are complaints.

Greatihex:
abeg o, no vex. I would like to know how the big bang model made humans to speak different languages?

Was it caused by different waves that were present in the places they travelled to? Were the waves the technology of the Egyptian gods and goddesses?

Great, leave this matter na

Raumdeuter
Have you seen this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5207293/story-cult-phase-included#78702949

The guy story legit as fvck.. and he attested to the fact his juju worked..

What have you to say as you come be Thomas for juju matter

The guy is even a dss personel

Greatihex:
abeg o, no vex. I would like to know how the big bang model made humans to speak different languages?

Was it caused by different waves that were present in the places they travelled to? Were the waves the technology of the Egyptian gods and goddesses?

I can send you a PDF on the history of older civilizations that explains how various human languages came about. You can compare the version (of Tower of Babel) story there to the one in your Bible.

If you're interested, you can send me a PM.

Besides, big bang isn't the ultimate. It's just a model.

There are many other related models, one of which is the standard model.

The science of human (and language) development cuts across various fields in science and history.

Skimpledawg:
Larride, what is the government doing about our health personell in the field fighting this virus?

There are complaints.

What the government is doing as how sir? PPE? Allowance or what sir?

gensteejay:

Christians are celebrating Easter now. But most of them don't know it's a festival with roots in paganism.

Who was Easter (Ishtar)? There are many resources online about the ancient goddess.

For someone that goes on and on about science and facts, this right here is no fact, no concrete evidence, just theories upon theories. You're doing well

seankafor:
Raumdeuter
Have you seen this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5207293/story-cult-phase-included#78702949

The guy story legit as fvck.. and he attested to the fact his juju worked..

What have you to say as you come be Thomas for juju matter

The guy is even a dss personel

Is there a verified video somewhere on that thread?

eph12:

For someone that goes on and on about science and facts, this right here is no fact, no concrete evidence, just theories upon theories. You're doing well

Maybe in your ignorance, you feel science is everything, just like some people feel religion is everything.

Personally, these are core aspects of my own approach to life: use of the brain, science, history, philosophy and logic, holy books.

gensteejay:

Maybe in your ignorance, you feel science is everything, just like some feel religion is everything.

Personally, these are core aspects of my own approach to life: use of the brain, science, history, philosophy and logic, holy books.

You don't even know my position on this matter, you're already feeling attacked.

Which of those core aspects gave you the boldness to make such claim as regards isthar and easter? Do you have any verified link one can use to read up assuming this does not involve your use of the brain core aspect?

https://www.nairaland.com/5790061/nadine-goncalves-dating-tiago-ramos

Apples can never fall far from the tree.

Agwo aghagh imu ihe toro ogologo. (there is no way snake will not give birth to something that is not long).

God have mercy.

Greatihex:
https://www.nairaland.com/5790061/nadine-goncalves-dating-tiago-ramos

Apples can never fall far from the tree.

Agwo aghagh imu ihe toro ogologo. (there is no way snake will not give birth to something that is not long).

God have mercy.

Why does this require God's mercy?

timbros:
Una no dey tire?!?!

Guess the match below joor and the scoreline....

Most likely a Manchester United match. Nah dem dey park English players like that.

eph12:

Is there a verified video somewhere on that thread?

Stop it