Lagos state Government: Use of face mask will be made compulsory from next week.

W.H.O: face make should only be used by frontline health workers and sick people.

Who do we listen to? After consulting several health practitioners and experts, now let’s look at these arguments carefully.

It’s true that correct usage of face mask will give you a level of protection against the virus and that if everyone can use it correctly alongside constant washing of your hands, we can collectively win the battle. This is the argument of Lagos state government.

W.H.O argued that face masks should be reserved for frontline health workers and sick people because if everyone starts using them, the commodity will become scarce, prices will be hiked and in the end it might only be available for those who can afford it and this can affect the availability for health workers (it’s very important we protect them).
They also argued that the scarcity might force the production of substandard face masks (a standard face mask that should protect against the virus should be made with fluid resistant materials and a filtration effectiveness of 0.5microns). We are already seeing this as people have started making face masks in Aba without proper regulations and tailors have started making them with “Aso oke”.

Let’s look at both argument holistically.

Is it true that a “standard face mask” can protect you when used correctly combined regular hand washing? Yes

If everyone starts using face mask, demand will be higher than supply and it’s an economic law that price will increase. Is this sustainable? Well you can answer that by yourself.

Do we have the facilities to sustain the production of standard face masks? No

Using substandard face masks can give you false impression of protection? Yes

If face masks become scarce, are we risking the lives of our health workers? Yes

What is the sustainability of making face mask compulsory for everyone? Very slim, if we can’t sustain it then everything becomes futile and counterproductive.

Do we have a standard face mask production factory in Nigeria? From all I know “no”

Using face mask is good, it can be productive if the government can consider the holistic effect knowing fully well that it’s a a collective fight. Making face mask available for a few set of people and others don’t get access to it afterwards or forcing people to use disposable face mask beyond the stipulated period of usage because of scarcity is counterproductive. The government need to look for ways to make them available at all times. If the issues of scarcity, price hike and appropriate usage can be dealt with then we are good but if otherwise, compulsory usage of face masks might become counterproductive.

Know that, if you wear a standard face mask and every other person doesn’t then we can’t win it, you are still at risk. It’s a collective fight.

W.H.O sef dey fcck up on a steady.


If face masks no dey, use bandanas or scarfs.


God go epp us

Increase in demand will ultimately cause increase in supply.

From the onset, WHO wants the spread to continue so they can carry out their evil Vaccination agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGbYHJcMbz8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1tGk2TWcB60OnhR5ZoYf6ULedHT3hBN0UVQeJQCoKW8zYxPatv4b4lKc0


WHO is evil. They want those that have the virus without there knowledge to contact the general public. Those who will suffer defeat after the virus subsided are Chinese government, bill gate, mark Zuckerberg, fauci, WHO and some evil doctors and laboratories

mployer:
Increase in demand will ultimately cause increase in supply.

From the onset, WHO wants the spread to continue so they can carry out their evil Vaccination agenda.

Forget about the agenda.

I think W.H.O made sense

ThinkFreely:
Forget about the agenda.

I think W.H.O made sense

Which sense? WHO has never helped in anyway since this pandemic. They have been talking from both sides of their mouth.

LASG is better

Anyone and everyone should wear mask during this period.

obi4eze:

LASG is better

Anyone and everyone should wear mask during this period.

Is this sustainable?

ThinkFreely:
Is this sustainable?

It is. The government should just distribute them free of charge and pass an order that everyone should wear them with punitive measures for those that flout the order.

obi4eze:

It is. The government should just distribute them free of charge and pass an order that everyone should wear them with punitive measures for those that flout the order.

How do you intend achieving that when it’s scarce?

You think Nigeria government will constantly distribute face masks to you?

ThinkFreely:
How do you intend achieving that when it’s scarce?

You think Nigeria government will constantly distribute face masks to you?

Not for me. But for those who can't get. Distribution of face masks may not be sustainable but it can be done initially with the help of the private sector and well-meaning individuals.

obi4eze:


Not for me. But for those who can't get. Distribution of face masks may not be sustainable but it can be done initially with the help of the private sector and well-meaning individuals.

Do you understand the economic impact of what you are saying?
Even U.S can’t afford to give their citizens enough masks.
We don’t have factories to produce standardized masks, it can only be imported for now.

ThinkFreely:
Do you understand the economic impact of what you are saying?
Even U.S can’t afford to give their citizens enough masks.
We don’t have factories to produce standardized masks, it can only be imported for now.

oga shut up, what yen yen yen are you mumbling. If you want to catch COVID-19 no one is stopping you. Let the mask crew go on. Standard gini? Are you using surgical masks? ..

mployer:
[s]Increase in demand will ultimately cause increase in supply.

From the onset, WHO wants the spread to continue so they can carry out their evil Vaccination agenda.[/s]

That's what Trump told you, I'm sure.

Lol@ OP, I'm sure you looked forward to an intellectual discussion on the merits or otherwise of universal mask wearing, but unfortunately has been hijacked by the noisy, empty headed, fact-averse Trumpists and their useless conspiracy theories.

Great introduction by the way.

Well, if I may add my two cents, I think the economic impact and potential for scarcity is being overestimated.

Firstly the mask,.unlike a ventilator or more complex PPEs are not so financially burdensome.

Secondly the idea that use of face mask might give people a false sense of security. I don't want to believe people are all that foolish. I believe that is provided with proper messaging, people will use the mask together with other measures.

Note that the same argument was used against condom distribution, with claims that it would make people more careless or promote promiscuity. Of course, this has not been proven true.

My take is, universal use can be instituted as a very strong recommendation, but shouldn't carry any penalty for those that don't comply.

Indeed, NCDC in their recent publication now recommends it's use as an added protection against infections.

weyreypey:


oga shut up, what yen yen yen are you mumbling. If you want to catch COVID-19 no one is stopping you. Let the mask crew go on. Standard gini? Are you using surgical masks? ..

You are a foool.

What benefit is there in using face mask when it cannot n be available for everyone and the usage can’t be sustained. She ode ni eleyi ni? It’s people like you who can’t even use mask correct, oponu

Typical African illiterate that can’t think. Oya Goan be using mask like idioot without first analyzing the holistic impact na.

ThinkFreely:
You are a foool.

What benefit is there in using face mask when it cannot n be available for everyone and the usage can’t be sustained. She ode ni eleyi ni? It’s people like you who can’t even use mask correct, oponu

Typical African illiterate that can’t think. Oya Goan be using mask like idioot without first analyzing the holistic impact na.

Your father! I knew you were a buffoon.

weyreypey:

Your father! I knew you were a buffoon.

Use your Brain before using a face mask.

Who is clueless

ThinkFreely:
Lagos state Government: Use of face mask will be made compulsory from next week.

See this one. Something that is clearly not logical he is trying to force it to be logical simply because WHO said it. Oga hasn't anyone told u asymptomatic people also spread the virus?? Why cover when u sneeze since it makes no difference.

ThinkFreely:
Do you understand the economic impact of what you are saying?
Even U.S can’t afford to give their citizens enough masks.
We don’t have factories to produce standardized masks, it can only be imported for now.

Guy do u know the worst hit states in US, like New York, now legally mandate some type of face covering. Stop accepting twisted logic. Think for yourself for a change!

PoliteActivist:


Guy do u know the worst hit states in US, like New York, now legally mandate some type of face covering. Stop accepting twisted logic. Think for yourself for a change!

U.S is still leading in figures, as a matter of fact almost 40% of covid19 cases is in U.S. You think by yourself.

PoliteActivist:


See this one. Something that is clearly not logical he is trying to force it to be logical simply because WHO said it. Oga hasn't anyone told u asymptomatic people also spread the virus?? Why cover when u sneeze since it makes no difference.

I think WHO makes more sense in terms of long term and holistic effect.
We don’t have the capacity to make standard masks and sustain it, it will be futile.

ThinkFreely:
I think WHO makes more sense in terms of long term and holistic effect.
We don’t have the capacity to make standard masks and sustain it, it will be futile.

My man the virus does not hang by themselves. They are in droplets a person ejects. Any type if covering retards how far those droplets can travel. Having on any type of covering is better than having nothing. Do some rsearch b4 confusing people like WHO!

PoliteActivist:


My man the virus does not hang by themselves. They are in droplets a person ejects. Any type if covering retards how far those droplets can travel. Having on any type of covering is better than having nothing. Do some rsearch b4 confusing people like WHO!

how can any type of covering mask reduce how far those droplets can travel?

Dude, use any kind of mask them you wil end up just filtrating dust. Where do you guys get all these nonsense from? Don’t you have common sense, how can a material with large holes bigger than a virus significantly reduce its passage? It’s has to be 0.5microns

Even the disposable mask is not safe enough for it, the best mask is the N95 surgical mask. How do you explain a material that absorbs fluid, would that protect you?

Don’t rush and going be using mask without first using your brain. How many expert in person do you know? you went online, picked up a fake report and believe it because it credited stuffs to expert, dude there are lot of rubbish online these days. Dude that’s not how to analyze scientific researches. Go to journals, ncbi, research gate, pubmed etc, that’s where to find genuine scientific studies. Stop spreading ridiculous news because they said it was from experts.

ThinkFreely:
how can any type of covering mask reduce how far those droplets can travel?

Dude, use any kind of mask them you wil end up just filtrating dust. Where do you guys get all these nonsense from? Don’t you have common sense, how can a material with large holes bigger than a virus significantly reduce its passage? It’s has to be 0.5microns

Even the disposable mask is not safe enough for it, the best mask is the N95 surgical mask. How do you explain a material that absorbs fluid, would that protect you?

Don’t rush and going be using mask without first using your brain. How many expert in person do you know? you went online, picked up a fake report and believe it because it credited stuffs to expert, dude there are lot of rubbish online these days. Dude that’s not how to analyze scientific researches. Go to journals, ncbi, research gate, pubmed etc, that’s where to find genuine scientific studies. Stop spreading ridiculous news because they said it was from experts.

Read the below then ask yourself why we are told cover our mouth when we sneeze

PoliteActivist:


Read the below then ask yourself why we are told cover our mouth when we sneeze

The problem is how do you ensure that everyone wears the mask and it doesn’t cause negative economic effect. How do you make sure mask is available at all times and never gets scarce? We don’t produce standard mask in Nigeria yet. A mask that can’t resist fluid and filter virus is dead on arrival cos asymptomatic people who will use this will still infect people.
Nobody is arguing that the mask will not help, can we make it available so demand don’t exceed supply?
That’s the bone of contention here. Understand my post before commenting.

ThinkFreely:
Did you even read it? It gave credence to the claim by W.H.O that only sick people needs the mask not everyone. Read what you posted.

R u sick in the head or something?? It says right there that people who are presymptomatic and asymptomatic spread the virus - people who don't even know they have it. Seems u have WHO in the brain - same WHO that said travel bans would only spread the virus faster, same WHO that said there was no human to human transmission. R u ok sir?

PoliteActivist:


R u sick in the head or something?? It says right there that people who are presymptomatic and asymptomatic spread the virus - people who don't even know they have it. Seems u have WHO in the brain - same WHO that said travel bans would only spread the virus faster, same WHO that said there was no human to human transmission. R u ok sir?

i edited reply already, go back. Your browser is slow

ThinkFreely:
The problem is how do you ensure that everyone wears the mask and it doesn’t cause negative economic effect. How do you make sure mask is available at all times and never gets scarce? We don’t produce standard mask in Nigeria yet. A mask that can’t resist fluid and filter virus is dead on arrival cos asymptomatic people who will use this will still infect people.
Nobody is arguing that the mask will not help, can we make it available so demand don’t exceed supply?
That’s the bone of contention here. Understand my post before commenting.

politeactivist here is the edited reply.

ThinkFreely:
i edited post already, go back. Your browser is slow

WHO gave a STUPID reason why masks should not be worn. Instead of thinking for yourself and realizing that the reason is stupid, u r stuck on what WHO said! EVEN JUST CLOTH RETARDS SPREAD OF THE VIRUS! Get that into your thick skull!! Also, has cost or scarcity ever been a consideration in mandating use of a life saving item - why are children's car seats mandated, why are bike helmets mandated, etc.??