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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:57pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
thorrvik55: Carvalho >>>>>> Terry Vidic >>>>>>> Ferdinand |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 2:01pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute: thorrvik55: Did not say he was the best... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 2:02pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Well....I don't know how high they rate Firminho, but he's very good at hold-up play which is one good attribute that has helped the team get some crucial points when they needed it. He's very strong on the ball and difficult to ruffle up. He feeds Sallah and Mane which I think is their coach's game plan. If I have two pacy forwards like Sallah and Mane, I won't look for A Jamie Vardie or Aguero to complete the trio.....I will go for a Firminho to always help them jig things up |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:13pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
thorrvik55: Yeah, I know. Just showing you that hype makes players seem better than they actually are. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:17pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute: Agreed, your head is correct!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:22pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
BlueRayDick:Even if Naby Keita and Shaqiri are playing regularly, he would say he has helped the team gather crucial points e.g the game vs Man Ud that sacked Mourinho For an attacker, scoring and assisting is the most important attribute and it is the hardest part of the game Giroud will also claim he is holding up play Its when the wingers are more effective than the 9 that they start looking for other attributes to celebrate in the 9. It was the inability of Firmino that forced Salah and Mane to step up, Its why they are forced to take tough shots because they know their 9 wont score |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:24pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter:Oga leave John Terry alone abeg |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute: Shouting ginger and pointing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:26pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 2:27pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute:LMFAO....... To say one is better than the other will ALWAYS be a matter of opinion not facts. Ferdinand will always be rated higher than Vidic. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Unlimited22: Terry is well behind Carvalho,Vidic in CL pecking order. This is someone who couldn't win CL with a stacked Chelsea team and even missed a penalty to deny his team the win. Soon as he was suspended, they then won 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:28pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1:Some opinion are almost facts e.g Ronaldo better than Zaha |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 2:31pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter:For those particular comparism he mentioned they are not facts. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:33pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Henderson >>>>>>>>>>>>> VVD in that aspect. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:36pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: It’s not a debate. If you you’ve watched these players play you’d know who the backbone is and who the hyped player is. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 2:36pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: Will always be rated higher? By who? Who rates Ferdinand higher than Vidic? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 2:40pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Well I don't think anybody hypes Firminho as one of the top 10 strikers in the Epl. Obviously he's not one. So I don't understand how he's overrated It is Henderson that is being hyped by the British media when he has nothing really tí show for it aside pashun |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 2:44pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute:LMFAO......Once again it remains your opinion as others will also have their own contrasting opinions. None of what you wrote are facts. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:49pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: LooL. K. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:50pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
larride: I surprise when me sef see am |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 2:56pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
larride:LMFAO.....Ferdinand is always rated above Vidic by United fans and will make a United greatest xi before Vidic. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 2:59pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
They are 2 different positions in central defence....5 & 6. One is the first to tackle/mark/intercept (Vidic, Carvalho, Kompany), the other cover up, organize the back 4, and also the brain of the defence, good with the ball, can join attack( Ferdinand, Terry, Van dirk). You can't just say one is better than the other.... The vidic/Carvalho/Kompany will struggle against skillful attackers but overcome strong attackers... Ferdinard/Terry will struggle against physical attackers but overcome skillful attackers. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 3:04pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
post=88913512:Can't believe I am agreeing with you but you nailed it.In modern defending the centrebacks act as a partnership, one attacks the ball, the other tracks the runner. Both Centre backs dont do the same job. Most people will always believe the more aggressive partner is better than the calm ones who read the game better that's why it always comes down to preference and style of play we like. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 3:11pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: People do think the CB that tackle most is the best.... Terry/Ferdinard/Van dirk study the game better.... Check Liverpool back line organization last season/this season, most opponent attack end up bn offside, ....Mr Van dirk will point and shout to arrange the offside trap, making defending easy for them. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:31pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute: Well thats the only thing Henderson has to sell. Forming activity 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:33pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: Who will watch the game and rate Ferdinand higher? Maybe because he is English Ferdinand left, Vidic is still pairing Evans OShea Brown to win league titles 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 3:34pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Leyqute:apparently, none of liverpool midfield can be rated top class.. All of them re average at best... the only thing pushing them through is that team work. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Expert17: These category are those who hide from the ball and claim they are organising defence, When Ferdinand left who was organising Man Utd defence? Was it Evans or Oshea Football is an activity not a presentation where you will be pointing and organising How come Chelsea won the CL without their so called brain of the defence Between Ramos and Varane who won 3 CL, who was the brain of the defence? When Kompany paired Mangala, Lescott, Otamendi Demichelis who was the brain of the defence? Does it sound right that Mangala, Otamendi Demichelis or Lesscott were the brain of anything? When they left City how is that brain working for them 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: That is a big fallacy, You play football its not powerpoint presentation. You go out there and put your body on the line. Its easy to point here and there Shebi all of us go dey studios and viewing centers pointing what this person should have done or not. Shebi all dem Neville go dey carry touchpad dey talk what someone should have done or not Remove these so called brains and the agressive partners can still hold the defence like Vidic showed in Man Utd, but any defender whose game is based on pointing and pointing how will he cope 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 3:50pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
raumdeuter:LMFAO. .....Believe Whatever rocks your boat. Lol what an old statement. Xavi left and iniesta Was still winning league titles with rakitic. Xavi must have been useless. Rest with this your agenda. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 3:52pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Expert17: Lol, you sha don agree that VVD is a point and shout defender. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:52pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
spillo1: Xavi left there was still Busquets and Iniesta. With your logic was it Johnny Evans or Oshea that was reading the game for Vidic to win the league 2 Likes |
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