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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 10:36am On Apr 28, 2020
iamoyindamola:

I was thinking it hunger grin
I heard the speech was everywhere.. na only pronunciation different shocked
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:13am On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


@bolded....you sabi ball....

Vidic just enjoy those one on one battle with strong attackers ( drogba).... Against Fernando Torres and the rest, you wont see him.

Ferdinard reads the game better, more calm, .....

The same people will say Michael Carrick is not a top defensive midfielder because he dnt jump into tackles like the rest
The game Ferdy faced Torres, he struggled. Why was Vidic the one facing the top strikers?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 11:17am On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

The game Ferdy faced Torres, he struggled. Why was Vidic the one facing the top strikers?

Ferdinand handled Torres better than Vidic did.
Liverpool Torres used to dash Vidic yellow and red cards.
It is known.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 11:29am On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

The game Ferdy faced Torres, he struggled. Why was Vidic the one facing the top strikers?

2014-- 2016 when we play both Jones and Smalling as CB pairing....why was Jones the one going to tackle the top strikers
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:32am On Apr 28, 2020
obainojazz:
I heard the speech was everywhere.. na only pronunciation different shocked
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We are the comedians
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 11:43am On Apr 28, 2020
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 11:46am On Apr 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


Ferdinand handled Torres better than Vidic did.
Liverpool Torres used to dash Vidic yellow and red cards.
It is known.

2007/2008 we played Barcelona(Messi, Xavi, Eto, Iniesta, Pedro) home and away and kept clean sheet in both legs without Vidic playing a single minute......Ferdinard anchored the back line....

Ferdinard once played 53 matches straightt without yellow card from March 2009 to October 2011..... Vidic cant make 5 straight tackles without committing foul...

With positioning you don't have to be tackling up and down or getting your kit dirty like Phil Jones, Mustafi..... Your brain will do most work for you...

Ferdinard is nicknamed Rolls-Royce for a reason

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:47am On Apr 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


Ferdinand handled Torres better than Vidic did.
Liverpool Torres used to dash Vidic yellow and red cards.
It is known.
Didn't say otherwise. Only observation I made was that Vidic faced those guys more. This is known too right or I am wrong?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:49am On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


2014-- 2016 when we play both Jones and Smalling as CB pairing....why was Jones the one going to tackle the top strikers

Are you trying to ask who was the better defender between Jones and Smalling?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 11:56am On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Are you trying to ask who was the better defender between Jones and Smalling?

It's simple.

Relate it,to the question you asked earlier, u will understand.

Jones go for the tackle/block first, .... But doesnt mean he is better than Smalling.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:58am On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


It's simple.

Relate it,to the question you asked earlier, u will understand.

Jones go for the tackle/block first, .... But doesnt mean he is better than Smalling.
So who is better between the two?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 11:59am On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

So who is better between the two?

Swissh where you know Ephraim from??

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:01pm On Apr 28, 2020
raumdeuter:


There is no top defender who does not understand positional play, they dont need an external person to tell them where and how to position themselves

That is why none of those will ever get to the level of Vidic Ramos never mind Nesta and Canavaro
Ramos is not a great defender.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 12:04pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


Swissh where you know Ephraim from??

grin
I wash my hand from Ephraim matter since Sunday. He is all yours bro

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:06pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Didn't say otherwise. Only observation I made was that Vidic faced those guys more. This is known too right or I am wrong?

Wrong.

Rio played RCB mainly and Vidic played LCB mainly.

That was the major factor in terms of their division of labour.

In terms of defending Rio was more comfortable against skillful and pacy players while Vidic was more comfortable against tall and powerful players.

The major decider though was usually Rio covers right, Vida covers left.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 12:07pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


Swissh where you know Ephraim from??

grin
We were talking about Vidic and Ferdy, you went to bring Smalling and Jones, how does this correlate? Okay who is better na, now you are confused
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 12:09pm On Apr 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


Wrong.

Rio played RCB mainly and Vidic played LCB mainly.

That was the major factor in terms of their division of labour.

In terms of defending Rio was more comfortable against skillful and pacy players while Vidic was more comfortable against tall and powerful players.

The major decider though was usually Rio covers right, Vida covers left.
So its either those guys naturally played on the Vidic side or he was targeted?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 12:10pm On Apr 28, 2020
Swissh:

I wash my hand from Ephraim matter since Sunday. He is all yours bro
Welcome cheesy
I heard the doctors in Kano are running from malaria, headache and lassa patients. What's the update?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 12:12pm On Apr 28, 2020
Airmak be smiling while reading utd fans cast their legends. He will be waiting to show a lot of evidence. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 12:12pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Welcome cheesy
I heard the doctors in Kano are running from malaria, headache and lassa patients. What's the update?
I will get back to you

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 12:12pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

We were talking about Vidic and Ferdy, you went to bring Smalling and Jones, how does this correlate? Okay who is better na, now you are confused

I brought in Smalling and Jones, so you can understand the point of CB division of duties and rating of defenders better.


Judging from all aspect

Ferdinand is better than Vidic

Smalling is better than Jones

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:21pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

So its either those guys naturally played on the Vidic side or he was targeted?

A 2 time premier league player of the year couldn’t have been targeted.

Most of these conclusions you people are coming to are subjective.

What is fact is that Rio was usually RCB while Vida was usually LCB.

Both all time greats of the EPL and on the shortlist for the best EPL central defenders of all time.

There is no need to slander one in order to hype the other.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 12:22pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


I brought in Smalling and Jones, so you can understand the point of CB division of duties and rating of defenders better.


Judging from all aspect

Ferdinand is better than Vidic

Smalling is better than Jones
This will be my last submit on this topic
The skillful ones like Torres, Vidic faced them when they're both on the pitch. The ones that are strong like Drogba, Vidic faced them too. Ferdinard was very good, paired excellently with Vidic. Just as you bring up Torres, don't forget to mention Ayegbeni. That Vidic was always ready to put himself on the line is enough reason to rate him slightly better. Same reason I'll prefer Carvalho to Terry in Chelsea. Let the organizer be organizing, we know those who are jumping in front of bullets

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 12:23pm On Apr 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


A 2 time premier league player of the year couldn’t have been targeted.

Most of these conclusions you people are coming to are subjective.

What is fact is that Rio was usually RCB while Vida was usually LCB.

Both all time greats of the EPL and on the shortlist for the best EPL central defenders of all time.

There is no need to slander one in order to hype the other.
Correct
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:30pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


@bolded....you sabi ball....

Vidic just enjoy those one on one battle with strong attackers ( drogba).... Against Fernando Torres and the rest, you wont see him.

Ferdinard reads the game better, more calm, .....

The same people will say Michael Carrick is not a top defensive midfielder because he dnt jump into tackles like the rest

You no sabi anything.

You're a YouTube watcher.

The only striker that Vidic struggled against in his prime in EPL was Torres

It came as much of a surprise as Vidic never had problem with anyone else and was given much press and highlighted for you YouTube revisionists.

Those of us watching the stuff live just know Torres was Vidic only weak point, while Ferdinand struggled against many strikers to where it was not worth highlighting.

It's just like any striker that toro VVD today will get much press coverage as opposed to someone like Rudiger who gets regularly washed

Vidic was far and above the dominant defender of that era. That's why independent panel twice voted him Premier League player of the season. Ferdinand own awards were never individual, just team of the season awards, as a result of team success.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:31pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Welcome cheesy
I heard the doctors in Kano are running from malaria, headache and lassa patients. What's the update?

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Welcome cheesy
I heard the doctors in Kano are running from malaria, headache and lassa patients. What's the update?

You mean the doctors swished off?

TOUGH! grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2020
kendrick93:
Ferdinand is rated as Man utd greatest CB ever.....
Go and check the polls on any man united fan site....

Younger fans who were not in their grown up senses will add to Ferdys votes as he is ever present in the media till today while Vidic disappeared off our screens when he left Manure

Vidic was voted greatest EPL defender of all time on Sky Sports.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:44pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ferdinand was a regular customer for the likes of Aiyegbeni. Joe Cole disgraced him at Old Trafford while the midget Messi outjumped him in UCL final.

Every striker worth his salt has rinsed Ferdinand to the point it's not worth talking about, but when Torres rinsed Vidic it became a stuff of legend written about till today as people could not believe someone would do that to Vidic.

Many average wrestlers get dumped on their back regularly, but when Amalinze the Cat gets defeated, that's the only story that will be told.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 12:49pm On Apr 28, 2020
popizaino:



Lol. I was actually agreeing with your previous points before you decided to include the bolded.


Puyol garbage grin grin grin
Stop this joke
LMFAO.....Yes Puyol positioning was absolute garbage. For anybody to rate Puyol more than just a decent defender is delusional.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 12:50pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


You no sabi anything.

You're a YouTube watcher.

The only striker that Vidic struggled against in EPL was Torres

It came as much of a surprise as Vidic never had problem with anyone else and was given much press and highlighted for you YouTube revisionists.

Those of us watching the stuff live just know Torres was Vidic only weak point, while Ferdinand struggled against many strikers to where it was not worth highlighting.

It's just like any striker that toro VVD today will get much press coverage as opposed to someone like Rudiger who gets regularly washed

Vidic was far and above the dominant defender of that era. That's why independent panel twice voted him Premier League player of the season. Ferdinand own awards were never individual, just team of the season awards, as a result of team success.

Nairaland football watcher....

You are comparing Ferdinard that started playing in EPL from 1996 and ended in 2015, to Vidic peak years of 2006-2013..... Go and bring Vidic past records at former clubs and inter Milan let's see..... You no sabi ball.

Ferdinard was the youngest defender to ever play for England national team then....

He already had over 100 appearances bfor year 2000...

He broke defender world transfer record Twice...

He was already captaining a great leeds United side @ 21

Comparing Vidic peak years to Ferdinard whole careers...... Am sure you didn't watch Vidic at Spartak moscow and Inter Milan.

Go and sit down
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 12:57pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


2007/2008 we played Barcelona(Messi, Xavi, Eto, Iniesta, Pedro) home and away and kept clean sheet in both legs without Vidic playing a single minute......Ferdinard anchored the back line....

Ferdinard once played 53 matches straightt without yellow card from March 2009 to October 2011..... Vidic cant make 5 straight tackles without committing foul...

With positioning you don't have to be tackling up and down or getting your kit dirty like Phil Jones, Mustafi..... Your brain will do most work for you...

Ferdinard is nicknamed Rolls-Royce for a reason
Exactly..
Paolo Maldini: “If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake.”

Anyone who's judging CB by the amount of tackleS he's made probably should stick to monkey post football...
Defenders who can read the game do not need to make a thousand tackles rather they anticipate danger early..
The likes of Ferdinand, Van djik,Nesta are examples.....
The Great beckanbeur probably didn't make a tackle but is rated as the best defender ever

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