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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:57pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


Nairaland football watcher....

You are comparing Ferdinard that started playing in EPL from 1996 and ended in 2015, to Vidic peak years of 2006-2013..... Go and bring Vidic past records at former clubs and inter Milan let's see..... You no sabi ball.

Ferdinard was the youngest defender to ever play for England national team then....

He already had over 100 appearances bfor year 2000...

He broke defender world transfer record Twice...

He was already captaining a great leeds United side @ 21

Comparing Vidic peak years to Ferdinard whole careers...... Am sure you didn't watch Vidic at Spartak moscow and Inter Milan.

Go and sit down


You are a Google analyst. I bet you are not up to 25 years old sef.

Who cares what Ferdinand did from 19 kporodim to 2057.

We are talking about 2006 to 2011 which is the period Ferdinand won anything worth writing home about, and Vidic was his senior in everything, twice winning Premier League player of the year.

If you check Ferdinand team and individual honours, 95% of any honours he will point to is in the 5 year period when Vidic came to rescue his career.

I suspect you are a young man who only started coming into his senses post 2011 when Vidic was on the wane.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 1:00pm On Apr 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


You mean the doctors swished off?

TOUGH! grin
cheesy
You can never understand that swissh guy. he should be quarantined
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 1:00pm On Apr 28, 2020
Godx:

Ramos is not a great defender.
Ramos is the biggest myth I have seen so far in football....
There's nothing special in his defending, commits red cards,
but I'm told he's a great defender...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:03pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


2007/2008 we played Barcelona(Messi, Xavi, Eto, Iniesta, Pedro) home and away and kept clean sheet in both legs without Vidic playing a single minute......Ferdinard anchored the back line....

Ferdinard once played 53 matches straightt without yellow card from March 2009 to October 2011..... Vidic cant make 5 straight tackles without committing foul...

With positioning you don't have to be tackling up and down or getting your kit dirty like Phil Jones, Mustafi..... Your brain will do most work for you...

Ferdinard is nicknamed Rolls-Royce for a reason

You made some good points there but Pedro didn't play against you guys in 2007/2008.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 1:04pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Younger fans who were not in their grown up senses will add to Ferdys votes as he is ever present in the media till today while Vidic disappeared off our screens when he left Manure

Vidic was voted greatest EPL defender of all time on Sky Sports.

Sky sport is not the owner of EPL


Official EPL team of all time.....Tony Adams and Rio Ferdinand are the CB
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 1:04pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Younger fans who were not in their grown up senses will add to Ferdys votes as he is ever present in the media till today while Vidic disappeared off our screens when he left Manure

Vidic was voted greatest EPL defender of all time on Sky Sports.
what do you mean by younger fans?
They both played and retired in the same era so I'm not sure how young comes into it...
Would you take a skysports over fans of Man utd who probably have more knowledge on the subject?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 1:06pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:



You are a Google analyst. I bet you are not up to 25 years old sef.

Who cares what Ferdinand did from 19 kporodim to 2057.

We are talking about 2006 to 2011 which is the period Ferdinand won anything worth writing home about, and Vidic was his senior in everything, twice winning Premier League player of the year.

If you check Ferdinand team and individual honours, 95% of any honours he will point to is in the 5 year period when Vidic came to rescue his career.

I suspect you are a young man who only started coming into his senses post 2011 when Vidic was on the wane.

Go to Nairaland archive and bring out Vidic statistics at Spartak moscow and Inter Milan...


Vidic had more own goals, red cards, yellow cards, error leading to goals, Pk conceeded than Ferdinard

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:16pm On Apr 28, 2020
kendrick93:

Would you take a skysports over fans of Man utd who probably who have more knowledge on the subject?

Not young Manure fans like yourself who were still teenagers or primary school students when Vidic and Ferdinand were together and are influenced by media.

I would rather take the independent panel of experts at the time who twice made Vidic Premier League player of the year. I'm not talking of EPL team of the season which any attache to team success can win. I mean someone considered the best player in the whole league twice by Independent observers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 1:17pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Many average wrestlers get dumped on their back regularly, but when Amalinze the Cat gets defeated, that's the only story that will be told.

For clarification purposes “ Amalinze the cat” is a fictional character from the world acclaimed book “Things fall apart”. I enjoy rewatching the video series than reading the book sef. Weekend binge idea don set!!!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:17pm On Apr 28, 2020
spillo1:

LMFAO.....Yes Puyol positioning was absolute garbage. For anybody to rate Puyol more than just a decent defender is delusional.


You think the dribble from Dimaria will erase the fact that he was an excellent defender? His accolades speaks for him. Whatever you think your perfect kind of defender was good at Puyol was definitely better at it. Be it on air, composure on the ball and defensive organisation Puyol was excellent at it all.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:19pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


Go to Nairaland archive and bring out Vidic statistics at Spartak moscow and Inter Milan...

Who cares what Eusebio did in Mozambique? Na wetin happen for Benfica be the koko.

Ferdinand passport is the only thing giving him longer visibility at the highest level. When Vidic finally arrived, we know who senior who.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 1:21pm On Apr 28, 2020
Wonderful. Discussing Ferdinand and Vidic on a Chelsea thread.


It is well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 1:21pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Not young Manure fans like yourself who were still teenagers or primary school students when Vidic and Ferdinand were together and are influenced by media.

I would rather take the independent panel of experts at the time who twiceade Vidic Premier League player of the year. I'm not talking of EPL team of the season which any attache to team success can win. I mean someone considered the best player in the whole league twice by Independent observers.

Henderson might end up winning player of the season this year..... He will end up winning EPL title..gerrard couldn't win it.... Still, you can't compare him with GERRARD

Use your brain...

Intelligence doesn't come with age

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 1:22pm On Apr 28, 2020
Skimpledawg:
Wonderful. Discussing Ferdinand and Vidic on a Chelsea thread.


It is well.

If it was just a discussion, it would have been better

Dragging one down over the other is just funny grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:25pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Swissh why are these doctors running from lassa na? Is it contagious too?
Lol just leave them kan ma tan ra won je
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 1:27pm On Apr 28, 2020
popizaino:



You think the dribble from Dimaria will erase the fact that he was an excellent defender? His accolades speaks for him. Whatever you think your perfect kind of defender was good at Puyol was definitely better at it. Be it on air, composure on the ball and defensive organisation Puyol was excellent at it all.
LMFAO.......Bro rest I watched Puyol all through his prime. His reputation is all about his winning mentality and fighting spirit not his ability as a defender. He is massively overrated and his positional sense is very poor, which forces him to lunge into tackles and do last-ditch tackles, which people self-service themselves silly over, despite it being a result of his bad positioning. He is Caragher with a little more brain.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 1:28pm On Apr 28, 2020
izzou:


If it was just a discussion, it would have been better

Dragging one down over the other is just funny grin grin
Scummies will always scum. Nothing new.

So José Mourinho had a better head to head record than Ferguson?


grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:28pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:


Henderson might end up winning player of the season this year..... He will end up winning EPL title..gerrard couldn't win it.... Still, you can't compare him with GERRARD

Use your brain...

Intelligence doesn't come with age

It is a current primary school student that may come and tell you in 10 years that Hendo was better than Gerrard cos he captained an EPL and UCL winning side.

Same way Expert17, a clueless primary school student of the 2000s is telling me today that Ferdy was better than Vidic because he read on Google that Ferdy has been in EPL since 1996 and broke transfer records while Vidic was still in Serbia and Russia.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 1:28pm On Apr 28, 2020
Skimpledawg:

Scummies will always scum. Nothing new.

So José Mourinho had a better head to head record than Ferguson?


grin

grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 1:37pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


It is a current primary school student that may come and tell you in 10 years that Hendo was better than Gerrard cos he captained an EPL and UCL winning side.

Same way Expert17, a clueless primary school student of the 2000s is telling me today that Ferdy was better than Vidic because he read on Google that Ferdy has been in EPL since 1996 and broke transfer records while Vidic was still in Serbia and Russia.


The education/information you are receiving from me, is making you shiver....thats why you are shouting Google...

If you want to compare them go to Vidic CV and bring out his record at all his clubs, not just from 2006-2013.....then compare with Ferdinard.

Vidic won 2 EPL best player.....Ferdinard was included in EPL all time 11..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 1:39pm On Apr 28, 2020
popizaino:


You made some good points there but Pedro didn't play against you guys in 2007/2008.

Lol, oooooiiinnn, our Google analyst is doing well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 1:40pm On Apr 28, 2020
izzou:


grin grin grin grin grin
Things you hate to see.


Just don't loud it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 1:41pm On Apr 28, 2020
Skimpledawg:

Scummies will always scum. Nothing new.

So José Mourinho had a better head to head record than Ferguson?


grin
Swissh and melvyn have you seen this?


grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 1:46pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Not young Manure fans like yourself who were still teenagers or primary school students when Vidic and Ferdinand were together and are influenced by media.

I would rather take the independent panel of experts at the time who twice made Vidic Premier League player of the year. I'm not talking of EPL team of the season which any attache to team success can win. I mean someone considered the best player in the whole league twice by Independent observers.
I'm not a United fan BTW.
On Reddit and Redcafe Ferdinand is rated as the better of the two...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 1:49pm On Apr 28, 2020
spillo1:

LMFAO.......Bro rest I watched Puyol all through his prime. His reputation is all about his winning mentality and fighting spirit not his ability as a defender. He is massively overrated and his positional sense is very poor, which forces him to lunge into tackles and do last-ditch tackles, which people self-service themselves silly over, despite it being a result of his bad positioning. He is Caragher with a little more brain.
Are you saying he's the same as Sergio Ramos but with less red cards?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:51pm On Apr 28, 2020
Expert17:



The education/information you are receiving from me, is making you shiver....thats why you are shouting Google...

If you want to compare them go to Vidic CV and bring out his record at all his clubs, not just from 2006-2013.....then compare with Ferdinard.

Vidic won 2 EPL best player.....Ferdinard was included in EPL all time 11..

You can only tell me what you read and what you are influenced by, not what you know and witnessed. Just like you read about Pedro playing against Manure in 2007/2008.

Meanwhile you are discussing with someone who watched EPL weekly in Ferdinands debut season.

Ferdinand was highly rated in the way that a young player is rated as good and certain mistakes overlooked. He was even touted as a midfielder and played there a few times for West Ham. You make few mistakes at West Ham and Leeds, it's quickly forgotten and your status remains high eg John Stones at Everton. When you come to Manure where every mistake could be the difference between winning and losing the league or UCL, it is a different ball game. Ferdinand was becoming unreliable from 2003 to 2006. Those mistakes of his youth would not be overlooked now.

Vidic is the Mr Reliable who performed mostly without error until about 2011, to the point where the only mistakes he made vs Torres turned into stuff of legend. For anything Vidic goofed against Torres, Ferdinand has goofed 5 times and went unremarked cos expectations are different.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:52pm On Apr 28, 2020
kendrick93:
I'm not a United fan BTW.
On Reddit and Redcafe Ferdinand is rated as the better of the two...

Who uses Reddit and Redcafe. No be una mate them?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 2:01pm On Apr 28, 2020
eph12:

Same reason I'll prefer Carvalho to Terry in Chelsea. Let the organizer be organizing, we know those who are jumping in front of bullets

Let's not forget that Alex benched Carvalho for a year before chasing him away to Madrid where he was only a starter for one year until he was benched again for his last 2 years
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 2:02pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


You can only tell me what you read and what you are influenced by, not what you know and witnessed. Just like you read about Pedro playing against Manure in 2007/2008.

Meanwhile you are discussing with someone who watched EPL weekly in Ferdinands debut season.

Ferdinand was highly rated in the way that a young player is rated as good and certain mistakes overlooked. He was even touted as a midfielder and played there a few times for West Ham. You make few mistakes at West Ham and Leeds, it's quickly forgotten and your status remains high eg John Stones at Everton. When you come to Manure where every mistake could be the difference between winning and losing the league or UCL, it is a different ball game. Ferdinand was becoming unreliable from 2003 to 2006. Those mistakes of his youth would not be overlooked now.

Vidic is the Mr Reliable who performed mostly without error until about 2011, to the point where the only mistakes he made vs Torres turned into stuff of legend. For anything Vidic goofed against Torres, Ferdinand has goofed 5 times and went unremarked cos expectations are different.



1.You are not smart......if i use google, i will know
that Pedro didn't play that game...

2. You can't compare 1996-2015 with 2006-
2015.....go and bring Vidic statistics from
other clubs.
3. The kind of defenders Ferdinard benched @
west ham, Leeds, Manchester united and.
England national team.... If I mention them,
you will run away

4. Twice EPL defender transfer record... It's not joke.

5. Vidic had more errors leading to goals, red card, yellow card, pk conceded than Ferdinard.

6. Ferdinard went 53 games straight without yellow card.... Vidic can't make 5 straigt tackles without foul.

Go and rest abeg

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:14pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Let's not forget that Alex benched Carvalho for a year before chasing him away to Madrid where he was only a starter for one year until he was benched again for his last 2 years

Kai!

Look at Carvalho’s life outside. Fat Alex benching him and chasing him away?

TOUGH!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 2:25pm On Apr 28, 2020
kendrick93:
I'm not a United fan BTW.
On Reddit and Redcafe Ferdinand is rated as the better of the two...

EPL players, both past and current, media and EPL officials voted Tony Adams and Ferdinard as all time EPL CB pairing.....pangolo nairaland analyst shouting Vidic.

He should mention just 2 good defenders, Vidic ever benched in his whole career.

The same nairaland analyst that will pick Jorginho over Matic because of Pashun.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:29pm On Apr 28, 2020
Ibeme:


Let's not forget that Alex benched Carvalho for a year before chasing him away to Madrid where he was only a starter for one year until he was benched again for his last 2 years
Did he actually bench him or Carvalho was struggling with injuries through out that season which gave Alex some game time. Carvalho still played more games than Alex that season and he was already 33 when we bought him.

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