Doesn't Boko terrorist live on Ground? or they fly in shiny SU-30s??

Odunayaw:
A ground attack aircraft is the real deal? Your moniker doesn't tally with your reasoning

rationalhuman:
Doesn't Boko terrorist live on Ground? or they fly in shiny SU-30s??

Your own words

I dont see Nigeria going to war with any neighboring country(Only in that case you never know outcome) thus it is fine, But just because Nigeria bought this please dont tel us this is 4th gen fighter.
Better upgrade you inventory of Jaguars, The real deal.

You were talking about Boko or you're trying to smear shyte on your face

rationalhuman:
Although this is a Chinese copy of MIG 21 but it can be effective against those Jihadi Boko Terrorists.
I dont see Nigeria going to war with any neighboring country(Only in that case you never know outcome) thus it is fine, But just because Nigeria bought this please dont tel us this is 4th gen fighter.

Better upgrade you inventory of Jaguars, The real deal.

You type so incoherently.

komekn:


Quite surprisingly irrespective of our different approaches you have at no time called me a LIAR.

That means that I am at fault alleging in my presumption that have you called me a liar and therefore I have to eat humble pie and apologize unreservedly.

No hard feelings, apology accepted. We were just approaching the topic from different angles.

bidexiii:



Fingers crossed
Nigerian troops lob rocket artillery on Boko Haram positions; https://twitter.com/defensenigeria/status/1254779907269292037?s=21

why is the artillery shooting at a slow speed? Please any explanation?

Odunayaw:
Never underestimate the power of open letter

The man is active on social media sef

yoged:
why is the artillery shooting at a slow speed? Please any explanation?

una Sha, you shoot fast you complain,you fire slow una complain

SamuelAnyawu:


12 noon

I was asking because I used that route around 1-2pm today..., and I didn't encounter such incident.

Well, I ask few travellers too.

Kalapizim:
una Sha, you shoot fast you complain,you fire slow una complain

Some Nigerians on twitter were like " it faulty"

Kalapizim:
una Sha, you shoot fast you complain,you fire slow una complain

and who tell you I was complaining. If you don't know ..please passand stop story

why showing us your illiteracy by using uncivilized language on public forum?

Odunayaw:
Your own words

You were talking about Boko or you're trying to smear shyte on your face

bidexiii:
Offloading the NA VT4 MBT from the cargo ship to a low-bird truck.

The Lowebed trailer looks nice.

If anyone have demand on the lowbed trailer.welcome to visit our website:www.sunskytrailer.com

yoged:
why is the artillery shooting at a slow speed? Please any explanation?

It’s not slow, probably it’s the video dragging kind of ?
Rockets system are powered by a rocket motor that drives them. If you’ve actually noticed when rockets are lunched i:e MLRS rockets gradually come off the pad slowly, and gain most of their speed/momentum later.

GeneralFarouq:
Some Nigerians on twitter were like " it faulty"

nor mind them

bidexiii:


It’s not slow, probably it’s the video dragging kind of ?
Rockets system are powered by a rocket motor that drives them. If you’ve actually noticed when rockets are lunched i:e MLRS rockets gradually come off the pad slowly, and gain most of their speed/momentum later.

what he meant was why wasn't the artillery firing simultaneously fast...

Toju200:
what he meant was why wasn't the artillery firing simultaneously fast...

It’s depends the type of target ?
If you have a fleeing enemy or enemy advancing fast towards your position. Likewise if your target is just in a fixed position, all this will determine how you prosecute your target.
This RM-70 is actually firing simultaneously;
https://twitter.com/defensenigeria/status/1255007175602311169?s=21

GabrielYulaw:


I have nothing to say, mainly cos your assertions are so laughable I won't waste time discussing and refuting them.

you can correct me if am wrong. tell me one thing the A10 will bring to the table against book haram that the super tucano will not do at a lesser cost. And how sure are you that the a10 could be maintained in Nigeria for a good period of time.

lebuhsi:

This guys are M.I.T , tdayof(I don't know his real name), also signed a R & D agreement with the Nigerian army forces, as far as I know, it didn't concretize, he finally moved to China, I read an article that a Chinese company bought intellectual rights, I can't seem to find it, I'm still looking

MIT impact labs is a different stuff

bidexiii:


It’s depends the type of target ?
If you have a fleeing enemy or enemy advancing fast towards your position. Likewise if your target is just in a fixed position, all this will determine how you prosecute your target.
This RM-70 is actually firing simultaneously;
https://twitter.com/defensenigeria/status/1255007175602311169?s=21

yeah I know I was trying to make his question understandable

bidexiii:


It’s not slow, probably it’s the video dragging kind of ?
Rockets system are powered by a rocket motor that drives them. If you’ve actually noticed when rockets are lunched i:e MLRS rockets gradually come off the pad slowly, and gain most of their speed/momentum later.

Thank you

Faithful007:
you can correct me if am wrong. tell me one thing the A10 will bring to the table against book haram that the super tucano will not do at a lesser cost. And how sure are you that the a10 could be maintained in Nigeria for a good period of time.

There are many things I can say to show how wrong you are. But the biggest and most important of all is that only the US operates the Warthog and if we like we can beg for it till eternity and still won't get it.
My friend, the two aircraft are of very different sizes and capabilities. Research your aircraft better. Thanks.

Faithful007:
the A10 was fashioned primarily as an anti-tank aircraft in conventional attack ops, if the A10 were that useful in COIN then why is the us switching from using them to tucanos in afgan. the A10 is useless not in the sense that it is a powerless aircraft, it simply has no major role for now. the tucano are better for COIN ops and easier to maintain.

I do not wish to contend with you with regard to the bold.

But where did you get that report from ?

bidexiii:



Fingers crossed
Nigerian troops lob rocket artillery on Boko Haram positions; https://twitter.com/defensenigeria/status/1254779907269292037?s=21

I am somewhat perplexed.

From my understanding Boko are very fluid moving from place to place not really having permanent basis in the first instance. That being the case and considering the type of weaponry they have,( predominant;y light weapons and HMG Gun trucks) why is the NA not getting , Up Close and personal straight into their camp and taking them out.

When an enemy is bunkered down firing rockets has only limited effect.

COMMANDER CORPS OF ARTILLERY RECEIVES OUTGOING AND INCOMING COMMANDERS 31 ARTILLERY BRIGADE

The Commander Corps of Artillery, Major General Usman Shehu Yakubu, today 28 April, 2020 received in his office, the outgoing Commander 31 Artillery Brigade Minna, Brigadier General Gideon Temitope Ajetunmobi and the incoming Brigade Commander, Brigadier General Jamiu Abdulmumin Lawal Jimoh.

The Commanders were at the Headquarters of the Nigerian Army Corps of Artillery ,the home of proud professionals to formally inform the chief Vulcan of their handing and taking over of command.

The outgoing Commander formally introduced the incoming Commander and also bid farewell to the Commander Corps of Artillery.

Highlight of the visit was presentation of souvenirs and group photograph.

rationalhuman:
why showing us your illiteracy by using uncivilized language on public forum?

Oh now, you see how foolish your "rational" idea was

kabe1:


Did you actually go through my post?

Can you post a link from the Pakistani Defence saying they shot down India's MIG-21 with a JF-17.

I didn't tell you JF-17 shot down MIG-21.

Until recently, only France used the Rafale, the fact is Myanmar bought 16 units, Nigeria has ordered 3 units. The JF-17 has had export success for such a new aircraft.

Please read my post again.

I did and my response is to question the claim "The JF-17 is a combat proven aircraft, all weather, state of the art aircraft with modern avionics and an advanced EW suite."

You went on further to say it has had export success with Mynamar and now Nigeria.

If you are using Myanmar as a benchmark for credibility then you are desperately clutching at straws. This aircraft is cheap unproven in any combat scenario beyond what Pakistan very questionably claims.

It is an aircraft for poor countries with limited ambition and or forward thinking.

Since its maiden flight in 2003 it has managed to sell this so called according to you state of the art aircraft, to only two gullible buyers after 17 years, Myanmar and Nigeria, Chei we have suffered.

It was derived by the from the Mig 21, which also is the F7 and according to the Chinese and Pakistanis modelled on the F16.

with Myanmar buying them for only 16 million per unit. This has been the key to the JF-17’s export success. A poor nation can field a relatively modern fighter for a very low price. It is yet to be seen whether it can actually perform at its price point in combat, but Pakistan seems to be satisfied with what the JF-17 can do in trials. In many ways, China has updated the budget fighter of the last generation, the MiG-21, for the modern era with the help and additional design cues from the F-16.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/jf-17-fighter-chinas-weird-mig-21-and-f-16-hybrid-24782

The shameless Chinese reverse engineered "Land Wind" may look like a Range Rover Evoque but is very far off the mark in all aspects, apart from just the visuals we do not judge a book by its cover.

When we say battle tested in the main the assumption is over a period of time an aircraft will be proven on multiple fronts and scenarios to be either comparable, outstanding and or exceptional. In 17 years since the its maiden flight there is NOTHING to underpin the claim of battle tested and proven.

For instance the Jaguar, F16, SU25 , f35 are battle tested proven and exceptional over many decades as outstanding performing aircraft, that is my understanding of , battle proven.

komekn:


I am somewhat perplexed.

From my understanding Boko are very fluid moving from place to place not really having permanent basis in the first instance. That being the case and considering the type of weaponry they have,( predominant;y light weapons and HMG Gun trucks) why is the NA not getting , Up Close and personal straight into their camp and taking them out.

When an enemy is bunkered down firing rockets has only limited effect.

why do always feel u know best...
I know now you'll say it just your opinion but sorry to break it to you bro...
It's a stupid one...
You're always complaining over everything.
So the commanders that insisted on the artillery firing is stupid abi

Toju200:
why do always feel u know best...
I know now you'll say it just your opinion but sorry to break it to you bro...
It's a stupid one...
You're always complaining over everything.
So the commanders that insisted on the artillery firing is stupid abi

Most of the artillery fire are guided by ISRs in the sky. But heh, keyboard warrior Komekn knows best.

GabrielYulaw:


No 1- Your old post didn't get missing. I suspect someone asked a mod to delete it.
No 2- Suleimani was murdered, not assassinated. There's a difference. He was a high ranking member of his government tasked with negotiating on its behalf and without him and Iran, ISIS would have long overran Iraq and the region.
No 3- In this day and age, cannon straffing from a fast moving jet is still effective, especially when used against an adversary without a modern air defense system in place.

Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post.

No 1- Your old post didn't get missing. I suspect someone asked a mod to delete it. On what basis that seems very devious and not in the spirit of how things should be done.

No.2 that is semantics to the US a terrorist assassinated to the Iranians HERO murdered.

No.3 Strafing hmmmm there are some things better seen than explained. Straffing is much more effective in open spaces against enemy vehicles and fixed isolated targets. Fighter jets were better equipped because of the greater speed but even with that you are exposed to enemy AA fire. A much slower noisy turboprop A29 on a straffing run would be at a very great disadvantage to AA gunfire.

In a setting of close proximity between friendly and enemy troops its near impossible to distinguish between friend and foe. Quite recently when 4 US combatants were killed in Niger by Islamist terrorists. The called in air support and within 15 minutes Mirage Fighter jets were on the scene but could only do low flying dives without fire for fear of taking out friendlies.

So aircraft as close support to ground forces has limitations, however, using precision weaponry when ground targets can be laser painted a big yes. But that can be done at 10000ft and a lot more. So strafing is near obsolete in today's modern warfare and more so in COIN with friendly forces in close proximity. An apache, MIL24, etc in this scenario would be the best option not an A29.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy9VPTWyLh0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wberKPnrWzg

Toju200:
why do always feel u know best...
I know now you'll say it just your opinion but sorry to break it to you bro...
It's a stupid one...
You're always complaining over everything.
So the commanders that insisted on the artillery firing is stupid abi

First of all because you do not know, do not presume everyone is like you.

Secondly him being stupid is your opinion not mine

komekn:


I did and my response is to question the claim "The JF-17 is a combat proven aircraft, all weather, state of the art aircraft with modern avionics and an advanced EW suite."

You went on further to say it has had export success with Mynamar and now Nigeria.

If you are using Myanmar as a benchmark for credibility then you are desperately clutching at straws. This aircraft is cheap unproven in any combat scenario beyond what Pakistan very questionably claims.

It is an aircraft for poor countries with limited ambition and or forward thinking.

Since its maiden flight in 2003 it has managed to sell this so called according to you state of the art aircraft, to only two gullible buyers after 17 years, Myanmar and Nigeria, Chei we have suffered.

It was derived by the from the Mig 21, which also is the F7 and according to the Chinese and Pakistanis modelled on the F16.

with Myanmar buying them for only 16 million per unit. This has been the key to the JF-17’s export success. A poor nation can field a relatively modern fighter for a very low price. It is yet to be seen whether it can actually perform at its price point in combat, but Pakistan seems to be satisfied with what the JF-17 can do in trials. In many ways, China has updated the budget fighter of the last generation, the MiG-21, for the modern era with the help and additional design cues from the F-16.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/jf-17-fighter-chinas-weird-mig-21-and-f-16-hybrid-24782

The shameless Chinese reverse engineered "Land Wind" may look like a Range Rover Evoque but is very far off the mark in all aspects, apart from just the visuals we do not judge a book by its cover.

When we say battle tested in the main the assumption is over a period of time an aircraft will be proven on multiple fronts and scenarios to be either comparable, outstanding and or exceptional. In 17 years since the its maiden flight there is NOTHING to underpin the claim of battle tested and proven.

For instance the Jaguar, F16, SU25 , f35 are battle tested proven and exceptional over many decades as outstanding performing aircraft, that is my understanding of , battle proven.

u know that u can buy a f-16 or one of ur dream jets and donate it to the airforce.



One thing I noticed some people hate Jf-17 because it is cheap and China has a hand in it.

komekn:


First of all because you do not know, do not presume everyone is like you.

Secondly him being stupid is your opinion not mine

I didn't say he's stupid but for u to bring these ur lame opinions most times and at this point in time makes the commander looks as if he doesn't know what he's doing