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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:52pm On Apr 30, 2020
How Kenya Port in Mombasa became the sovereign property of China

grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:54pm On Apr 30, 2020
this pic is an example of how unplanned Nairobi is

such filthy town with no water grin grin grin
Shma:
takoradi is just like kibera, and Accra is an advance version of kibera.
So can you compare the mentioned with this super class city grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:54pm On Apr 30, 2020
Shma:
mitsi, post the pic again and let the boy see. grin
He's now living in denial. cool
there is a whole video for him
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:55pm On Apr 30, 2020
Shma:
kisumu is better and bigger than Accra. cool

Kisumu is the size of a village here
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 3:57pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
Does it operate in Ghana or not ?

The government of Ghana has an arrangement with them where by Ghana government owns a portion of the Company in order for them to open a new mine.
2. Ashanti Goldfields has been in operation since 1880 before merging with AngloGold
Is AngloGold South African?

This is the merger document, you can read
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1008136/000120561304000045/merger.htm
I literally said they operate in Ghana, also I never disputed that the Ghanaian government can own a portion of the company.

I simply stated that paying tax doesn't mean its a Ghanaian company:

FYI:

"The AngloGold journey began in South Africa in May of 1998, when the gold and uranium mining interests of Anglo American Corporation of South Africa were consolidated. In August 1998, AngloGold became the first South African company to list on the NYSE."

https://www.anglogoldashanti.com/company/history/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:58pm On Apr 30, 2020
Who will be so dumb enough to sign away the Sovereignty of Mombasa

Your deputy says he was proud to sell Mombasa for a loss-making business grin grin grin

First year and it is already 98 million dollars in debt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:01pm On Apr 30, 2020
jl115:
I literally said they operate in Ghana, also I never disputed that the Ghanaian government can own a portion of the company.

I simply stated that paying tax doesn't mean its a Ghanaian company:

FYI:

"The AngloGold journey began in South Africa in May of 1998, when the gold and uranium mining interests of Anglo American Corporation of South Africa were consolidated. In August 1998, AngloGold became the first South African company to list on the NYSE."

https://www.anglogoldashanti.com/company/history/

How do you think it became AngloGold Ashanti

a joint venture between two great companies does not make it just an SA company anymore

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:06pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
same way AngloGold and Ashanti GoldFields are two different companies who merged to become a behemont corporation.
True,.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:09pm On Apr 30, 2020
jl115:

True,.
sure
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:12pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
and it doesnt make it anyless a Ghanaian company
Who are the Directors, where is the headquarters and who is the majority stakeholder?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:19pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:


How do you think it became AngloGold Ashanti

a joint venture between two great companies does not make it just an SA company anymore
You said AngloGold and Goldfields are Ghanaian companies.

Goldfields Limited is not Ashanti Goldfields corporation...............This is where the confusion came in!!

As for AngloGold ashanti well imo it still a SAn company as the headquarters and Directors are all South African and Ghanaian shareholders only owns 2% of AngloGold Ashanti...................

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:19pm On Apr 30, 2020
There is a reason why two Ghanaians are selected unto it Independent Non Executive directors by the Ghanaian Government
jl115:
Who are the Directors, where is the headquarters and who is the majority stakeholder?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:21pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
There is a reason why two Ghanaians are selected unto it Independent Non Executive directors by the Ghanaian Government
Ghana only own 2% shareholding in AngloGold Ashanti............the biggest shareholders in AGA are South African companies.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:21pm On Apr 30, 2020
jl115:

You said AngloGold and Goldfields are Ghanaian companies.

Goldfields Limited is not Ashanti Goldfields corporation...............This is where the confusion came in!!

As for AngloGold ashanti well imo it still a SAn company as the headquarters and Directors are all South African and Ghanaian shareholders only owns 2% of AngloGold Ashanti...................
ofcourse Goldfields is not the same as Ashanti Goldfields

Not all the directors are south African
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:24pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
It is registered as a merged company

Company profile on Ghana stock exchange

Incorporated on May 29,1944 in South Africa as Vaal Reefs Exploration and Mining Company Limited.The Company changed its name to Anglogold Limited on march 30, 1988 After a consolidation. On April 26, 2004,the Company merged with Ashanti Goldfields Company Limited to form AngloGold Ashanti Limited.

nothing like external

it has been operating since 1880
Ashanti Goldfields corporation is Ghanaian, AngloGold Ashanti is not...............

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:24pm On Apr 30, 2020
jl115:
Ghana only own 2% shareholding in AngloGold Ashanti............the biggest shareholders in AGA are South African companies.
South Africans holds just 25%
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:25pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
ofcourse Goldfields is not the same as Ashanti Goldfields

Not all the directors are south African
You said Goldfields hence the misunderstanding wink

Most are, but not all as you stated wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:26pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
South Africans holds just 25%
Yeah i know, technically its American grin grin grin, however the single biggest shareholders are South African

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:26pm On Apr 30, 2020
neither is it South African

jl115:

Ashanti Goldfields corporation is Ghanaian, AngloGold Ashanti is not...............
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:27pm On Apr 30, 2020
jl115:

You said Goldfields hence the misunderstanding wink

Most are, but not all as you stated wink

you should have known i was referring to two different companies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:31pm On Apr 30, 2020
the biggest shareholders are American grin grin
jl115:
Yeah i know, technically its American grin grin grin, however the single biggest shareholders are South African
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 5:12pm On Apr 30, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 5:13pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
the biggest shareholders are American grin grin
Jiln s always looking for an escape route

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 5:19pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
Who will be so dumb enough to sign away the Sovereignty of Mombasa

Your deputy says he was proud to sell Mombasa for a loss-making business grin grin grin

First year and it is already 98 million dollars in debt
Kenyans on this thread don't reason properly most times. Reason why I don't always engage their contributions. They ll see the truth, yet they'll be too sentimental to admit it. When you say, most Kenyans are poor for instance. They'll say "hell no" whereas maybe one of them present on this thread is living right in the heart of kibera.
For South Africans , gosh their case is too complicated.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:32pm On Apr 30, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

to be honet 8% is not small..

anyway my take...malema might be your solution but problem is he not smart...SA needs something new...dont be like old europe or japan ...start growing your economy..

Malema is not SA solution, something new is not necessarily good

South africa needs Herman Mashaba not malema

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:45pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
Who will be so dumb enough to sign away the Sovereignty of Mombasa

Your deputy says he was proud to sell Mombasa for a loss-making business grin grin grin

First year and it is already 98 million dollars in debt

show us your superior railway
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

No accra na small..we roll with big shots... grin

lipsrsealed grin Saleing off what little is left. grin wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 5:55pm On Apr 30, 2020
AskiaHarem:


lipsrsealed grin Saleing off what little is left. grin wink

Pray for Kenya....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:57pm On Apr 30, 2020
The railway that in 2nd-year operation has grown it's revenues to 110M dollars is not dead - and has since it's cargo rise from zero to 5M tonnes.

Revenue last year rose 3 times - cargo by nearly 50%.

Mombasa port well on it's way to 35M - 1.4M tonnes - bigger than two Lagos ports of Apapa and Tin Can.

Don't even compare it with Ghana.

Just30:
Who will be so dumb enough to sign away the Sovereignty of Mombasa

Your deputy says he was proud to sell Mombasa for a loss-making business grin grin grin

First year and it is already 98 million dollars in debt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:07pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
the biggest shareholders are American grin grin
In total yes but the biggest single shareholders are SAn
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:09pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:


you should have known i was referring to two different companies
I should've known? no bro you should've known as you simply said Goldfields which is a South African company...........If you said Ashanti Goldfields or something like than then different story.........Besides as you said Ashanti Goldfields does not exist anymore as it merged with AngloGold!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:10pm On Apr 30, 2020
Just30:
neither is it South African

Fair enough, however Goldfields and MTN are South African wink

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