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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:31pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
PervertProphet: When you read it to the end of the page you can click for the previous or next article. It is such a rich resource. https://answersingenesis.org/creationism/old-earth/examination-hugh-ross-creation-passages-jeremiah-to-zechariah/ |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 6:09pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89026147] It is only Satan that gives half truths and contradictions not the Bible. Yes, you’re right.But if men who walked in the flesh and didn’t have the full knowledge of God’s nature spoke in the Bible, and some of them even wrote the Bible, then this Bible will always have contradictions and half truth. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 6:12pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89026806] The Bible is correct. Yes the Bible is correct, especially when we come to understand that everything there shouldn’t be taken literally |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:15pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2 Peter 1:21). That's where you got it wrong as you can see that the Bible was not written by men carnal men but holy. God used them as you would use a pen to write down a message. You will only end up confused when you take your authority from sinful faulty men over the infallible inspired Word of God. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:18pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: You don't have to take it literally only when it suits you.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 8:06pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89036893] "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2 Peter 1:21). That's where you got it wrong as you can see that the Bible was not written by men carnal men but holy. God used them as you would use a pen to write down a message. You will only end up confused when you take your authority from sinful faulty men over the infallible inspired Word of God. There you go! Another non-contextual reading of the Bible. Reading the pre-text will definitely give you a better understanding. “For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” ~II Peter 1:17-21 NKJV Peter writes about a prophecy . What is this prophecy? The prophecy is the inspired word spoken by the prophets concerning the suffering and the resurrection of Christ. Scripture here doesn’t mean the entire Bible. It actually refers to the Old Testament. Recall that at this time, the New Testament was not in existence. So what was spoken by the prophets in the New Testament about Christ was not spoken by the will of man, but these men spoke by the inspiration of the Spirit. Peter is not saying the entire Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit, but the prophecy concerning Christ. This is why all that was spoken by the prophets concerning Christ in the New Testament was fulfilled. There was no contradictions at all. The same can not be said about other areas. I hope that is clear enough. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 8:14pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89037018] You don't have to take it literally only when it suits you. I don’t read the Bible to suit myself. I read with an open and humble heart, thereby allowing the Holy Spirit to guide. Always ready to learn, unlearn and relearn. When you do all of these, you’ll know when a portion is literal and when it is a figure of speech. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 12:21am On May 01, 2020 |
PervertProphet:thinking of Muslims is like one disturbing himself about d stupidity of a goat , u know that I know dat Islam is totally blind to truth , at least in Christianity humans can still reason , u nid otem |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 4:58am On May 01, 2020 |
budaatum:so u actually love me like seriously? Anyway tanks... 4 things I hate is some1 lying to me ,injustice , ignorance and I hate fear/cowardice , But I felt for those God's lied upon in the Bible, if am one of dos Gods I will not forgive , I will show ignorant Christian's raw pepper |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 5:03am On May 01, 2020 |
iluvMAMAV:I wonder why you'd blame God for lying to you in the Bible. Did God write the Bible, or have I misunderstood you? |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:07pm On May 01, 2020 |
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:09pm On May 01, 2020 |
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:21pm On May 02, 2020 |
PervertProphet: Have you been able to read up on the link? |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:24am On May 04, 2020 |
Good science and bad science
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 5:27pm On May 04, 2020 |
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11457152_atheisttest_jpege8add09abb7c1d178efdc0e035d088fa No wonder you are so childlike. Instead of seeking understanding of that which you are commanded, like the soldier that you are, you march forward ignorantly obeying those who command and reason for you as a child would. And like the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]lord of ignorance that you serve[/url], you ask us to humble ourselves and bow down and worship you. I will pray that your childish ways be put away.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:10pm On May 04, 2020 |
budaatum: The moment you discover the difference between being childlike and childish will be the time you begin to see the light. At the moment you lack the fear of God and you need repentance.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 9:17pm On May 04, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:You are afraid because you are naked so you hide.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:39pm On May 04, 2020 |
budaatum: Look at who is talking.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:43pm On May 04, 2020 |
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:39pm On May 05, 2020 |
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by GodSaklek(m): 6:26am On May 06, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: U are a real foool 1 Like |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 9:13am On May 06, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89231435] You are right about this, and it is pretty obvious to everybody, even to the teenagers in my church . This is low level revelation. How about the talking serpent in Genesis 3 and Elijah being transported to heaven ? What about the hardening of Pharaoh’s heart, sir? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 9:41am On May 06, 2020 |
Or maybe you need to consider these two accounts: “Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”” ~II Samuel 24:1 NKJV “Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.” ~I Chronicles 21:1 NKJV I’m sure it’s clear to you who actually moved David to number Israel . God and satan have suddenly formed a tag team,right? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 12:06pm On May 06, 2020 |
While you’re at that, you can also explain to us why there’s only one mad man of Gadarene here: “Then they sailed to the country of the Gadarenes, which is opposite Galilee. And when He stepped out on the land, there met Him a certain man from the city who had demons for a long time. And he wore no clothes, nor did he live in a house but in the tombs.” ~Luke 8:26-27 NKJV Yet this account says there’re two: “When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes, there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way.” ~Matthew 8:28 NKJV According to you, God personally wrote the Bible. Surely, God doesn’t make a mistake. My eyes must be playing tricks on me, eh? |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:52pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: What about talking serpents?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 6:34pm On May 06, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89256587] What about talking serpents? It seems i am being misunderstood. For the record, I am not an atheist. I am a child of The Most High. First, the Genesis 3 account is a typology and should not be taken literally. The idea of a talking serpent is spooky, not because it wasn’t possible, but because it wasn’t necessary. The devil wasn’t speaking through a serpent, the devil was the serpent. Better still, the serpent is a representation of the devil. We see this in the book of revelation where the devil is constantly referred to as the serpent or dragon. “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” ~Revelation 12:9 NKJV “He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;” ~Revelation 20:2 NKJV Notice that phrase “serpent of old “. The tree of life is not a tree, it is a person. A tree cannot give life. “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.” ~John 1:4 NKJV The tree of life is therefore Christ. What about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? That is a typology for the law or works. The fruit of a tree can not defile a man . “Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”” ~Matthew 15:11 NKJV Fruit symbolizes words “A man’s stomach shall be satisfied from the fruit of his mouth; From the produce of his lips he shall be filled.” ~Proverbs 18:20 NKJV So what then is the interpretation of the Genesis 3 account. God preached the gospel ( tree of life) to Adam and Eve. They acted in unbelief and chose works (tree of the knowledge of the good and evil), via the temptation of satan. This is sin. Sin leads to death. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:12pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: Are you saying that the account of Adam and Eve in Genesis should not be taken literally? Is Adam a myth?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 7:57pm On May 06, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89261104] Are you saying that the account of Adam and Eve in Genesis should not be taken literally? Is Adam a myth? Adam was not a myth, neither was Eve. My explanation is clear enough, even to a 5-year-old . |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 8:05pm On May 06, 2020 |
Moses wrote the book of Genesis. He was not in the garden. Apparently, the narrative was communicated to him through a vision. In visions, types and symbols are used to represent words, thoughts, things and ideas. He wrote this down the way he received it, apparently without understanding. The man in Christ gives it the correct interpretation. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:32pm On May 06, 2020 |
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:30pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: You say it is low level revelation and yet you fall short of this basic knowledge. It is either you were not paying attention during Sunday school lessons or you were unfortunate to be nurtured by of those half baked teachers or ministries who do not know better. Let me take you back to basics as to where the Bible actually came from. "...for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21). This verse states that the Bible came from holy men of God as I had implied to you earlier. God breathed into these holy men of God who were about 40 different writers over a long time and they wrote the Bible. These men lived different lifestyles and profession such as a Doctor, a farmer, a fisherman, a tax collector and so on. They came with different style of writing such as history, poetry and prophecy. It has many historical events concerning the beginning of this world in the book of Genesis and through the application of science we can confirm that God's account of creation is true. The astonishing thing about the holy Bible is that even though it was written by about 40 different people over a long time, it just has one message. Do you know the scarlet thread that runs through the Bible? madegreatbygrace: "So the donkey said to said to Balaam, "Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day[/color]? Was I ever disposed to do this to you?" (Numbers 22:30). I hope you have been taught that we've been made in God's image, yes? I believe you can talk and communicate with other human beings who are also created in the image of God. I hope you also know that animals are not created in the image of God. In the Bible verse above we see that God opened the mouth of a donkey and it spoke. You need to know that God can use anything to convey His message as long as it will serve God's perfect will, even a donkey. Simultaneously God permitted Satan to use the serpent to disguise himself and tempt Eve. madegreatbygrace: I will be limiting my discourse to the topic at hand and not get distracted with the issues of Elijah and Pharaoh for now. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:33pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: Don't get distracted, stay on the topic. |
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