Nobody dispute that. For some analysis - it make sense to compare sub-regions. Africa, Sub-Sahara, Magreb, Southern Africa, East Africa.

So Kenya is the largest economy in Eastern africa
Kenya is the 3rd largest economy in Sub-sahara africa.
Kenya is the 6th largest economy in Africa.

You're getting scared before we get to 2030 - when Kenya will start breathing down you neck.

You're in a middle-class trap that you are not even aware of - and have no SOLUTION out of it.

Austine1213:


Coutries I mentioned are in africa

Thats a fact deal with it

rvp20182:
You're becoming childish. Kenya is the 3rd biggest economy in Sub-Sahara Africa. You can go fight everyone who uses SSA in their analysis for that reason. And yes it's 6th biggest - in Africa[b]. 5yrs ago - Kenya was not even in top 10.[/b]

You are a liar..I have showed you twice world bank recent report from last month and they said the top three largest economies in sub Saharan is Nigeria,south Africa, Angola

Kenya overtook Angola last year. Please update yourself. Angola is a little Oil economy. It's like Venezuela. Or Libya. Or Nigeria. Those once are bound to collapse and rise with OIL prices.

Angola right now is six feet under. Luanda the same. Nothing is moving there. You can go there if you want to see what is coming to your shores.

samorobo:


You are a liar..I have showed you twice world bank recent report from last month and they said the top three largest economies in sub Saharan is Nigeria,south Africa, Angola

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rvp20182:
Nope. Kenya and Ghana are both tied (before CEDIS collapse) at around 2,000USD per capita. That put them at lower middle-income country. The threshold for that is merely 1,050 or about USD. The next barrier is to get where South Africa, Botswana, Namibia and others are...

Kenya will need to double it's nominal GDP to get to next stage - to get 4,000 - and I believe this will happen within this decade.

And if we grow like we have done - by 2030 - we could be well about 5,000-6,000.

As for South Africa - you're STUCK STUCK STUCK TRAPPED TRAPPED WAITING WAITING for kenya to overtake you. You cannot move forwad. You're in a middle class trap.

World Bank definition for categories economies....
Low-income economies are defined as those with a GNI per capita, calculated using the World Bank Atlas method, of $1,025 or less in 2018;
lower middle-income economies are those with a GNI per capita between $1,026 and $3,995
; upper middle-income economies are great - about 4,000 dollars

I can see you not aware of what's happening in the world right now

Oil will pick up, demand will pick up

Loss making SAA liquidated, new airline coming

Technology based education for SA

World economies restructuring

In case you didnt know big GDP does not mean better, look Ghana is better/more developed than kenya despite kenya having bigger gdp

Ghanians livingbetter than kenyans

On average Ghanaians are richer than kenyans

rvp20182:
Kenya overtook Angola last year. Please update yourself. Angola is a little Oil economy. It's like Venezuela. Or Libya. Or Nigeria. Those once are bound to collapse and rise with OIL prices.

Angola right now is six feet under. Luanda the same. Nothing is moving there. You can go there if you want to see what is coming to your shores.

Hahahaha rvp by now you should know I am the last person on this thread to ever tolerate your cheap lies... honestly I wonder why you lie alot..would your lies automatically make Kenya overtake Angola in reality...if you overtook Angola last year then world bank report from just last month would have indicated that..rmbr that was April and they have reviewed all economic data from last year....infact I remember vividly how you started screaming this stupid lie to your fellow country after the Q1 of 2019...lol once again right from the anus of world bank..Argue that now



While most countries in the region have been affected to different degrees by the pandemic, real gross domestic product growth is projected to fall sharply particularly in the region’s three largest economies – Nigeria, angola, and South Africa

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/04/09/covid-19-coronavirus-drives-sub-saharan-africa-toward-first-recession-in-25-years

rvp20182:
Kenya overtook Angola last year. Please update yourself. Angola is a little Oil economy. It's like Venezuela. Or Libya. Or Nigeria. Those once are bound to collapse and rise with OIL prices.

Angola right now is six feet under. Luanda the same. Nothing is moving there. You can go there if you want to see what is coming to your shores.

Look at angola look at kenya, look what angola did after civil war decimated it

2002 to 2020, compare with kenya


Oil is an essential, prices will pick up soon or later as lockdown measures are eased, demand will rise

You're hiding behind little IMF colony that cannot manage it's macro-economics - depends on oil/gold - against Africa's largest non-mineral economy - Kenya.

The world economy will recover no doubt - South Africa will be one of the worst-hit - because already it was contracting at negative 1%.

The estimate are you'll contract by as much as 6% - in addition to Rand that is world worst at 25% depreciation so far - so let's say at end of the year - Egypt and even Algeria might overtake South Africa.

You're getting hit the worst time - stop dreaming of reviving South Africa Airways - it's DEAD As dodo - wrong time to die. ESKOM is where you need to figure out how to clean it's balance sheet. 32B dollars debt is Kenya total external debt.


And btw Kenya - and South Africa - will be the little phosphorous desert of Morocco.

Austine1213:


I can see you not aware of what's happening in the world right now

Oil will pick up, demand will pick up

Loss making SAA liquidated, new airline coming

Technology based education for SA

World economies restructuring

In case you didnt know big GDP does not mean better, look Ghana is better/more developed than kenya despite kenya having bigger gdp

Ghanians livingbetter than kenyans

On average Ghanaians are richer than kenyans

rvp20182:
Kenya overtook Angola last year. Please update yourself. Angola is a little Oil economy. It's like Venezuela. Or Libya. Or Nigeria. Those once are bound to collapse and rise with OIL prices.

Angola right now is six feet under. Luanda the same. Nothing is moving there. You can go there if you want to see what is coming to your shores.

Venezuela is communist, sanctions on it

Libya basically still at war

Useless comparing with angola or nigeria

rvp20182:
That was last year. This year we overtook Angola - we still have Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, South Africa and Nigeria (BIG fu.klign Asterik on their fake GDP estimates)

Austin all of this afforementioned countries have fake GDP because they are all higher than Kenya..he is ashamywe all make Kenya feel inferior,lost a d completely out of the league

I never doubt GDP of South Africa or the rest. ONLY NIGERIA GDP is totally cooked. Starting with 80-100B dollar agricluture sector. Totally baked. South Africa is Africa biggest economy - followed by Egypt - and btw Algeria and Nigeria - you can squabble.

South Africa now is 3-4 times larger than Kenya in most things. Their GDP totally make sense.

Nigeria is a joke. I checked total cargo throughput 1.8M - (like all your 10 ports) - Mombasa is doing 1.4m.

Nigeria GDP IS OVERCOOKED. South Africa will be leading economy until Egypt overtake her soon.

samorobo:


Austin all of this afforementioned countries have fake GDP because they are all higher than Kenya..he is ashamywe all make Kenya feel inferior,lost a d completely out of the league

rvp20182:
You're hiding behind little IMF colony that cannot manage it's macro-economics - depends on oil/gold - against Africa's largest non-mineral economy - Kenya.

The world economy will recover no doubt - South Africa will be one of the worst-hit - because already it was contracting at negative 1%.

The estimate are you'll contract by as much as 6% - in addition to Rand that is world worst at 25% depreciation so far - so let's say at end of the year - Egypt and even Algeria might overtake South Africa.

And btw Kenya - and South Africa - will be the little phosphorous desert of Morocco.

Shrinkage is is world over on big economies, i don't know if you stupid or plain dum

Egypt - tourism, oil, are on of its biggest contributors
Algeria depend on oil

Do the math

rvp20182:
Angola clay feet gave way. It was a little oil-based economy like Nigeria. That doesn't look. Angola kwach has totally collapsed. Now even Tanzania, Ethiopia and Ghana have overtaken it. They are back to where they came from.

In fact - I was checking their Port of Luanda - I knew they were competing with Mombasa (Nigeria ports are down and out) - and Port of Luanda also totally COLLAPSED - no ships coming - the country is broke.

And that was before COVID and OIL Collapse.

Angola will become Sudan....KAPUT.

Nigeria GDP is really not WORTHY of any serious debate.

Lol you are now throwing tantrums like some silly teenage girl in her menstral period ...talk is very cheap rvp...the long and short of your noise is that Angola as of today is still higher than Kenya despite having half of Kenyans population (I know you feel inferior as a Kenyan seeing that singular fact)...now read world bank report again..


While most countries in the region have been affected to different degrees by the pandemic, real gross domestic product growth is projected to fall sharply particularly in the region’s three largest economies – Nigeria, angola, and South Africa

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/04/09/covid-19-coronavirus-drives-sub-saharan-africa-toward-first-recession-in-25-years

You can't compare your Chinese Greek gift(Mombasa port) to apapa port..you've seen your maritime traffic and it is shameful...it has shamefully busted your noise .the rest nonsense you wrote is details

IMF and WB have done the maths. The debt market - South Africa debt is now JUNK. Currency market - the Rand has overtaken Turkey Lira in depreciation. Down 25% against the dollar. The economy is set to contract by whopping-6%.

South Africa GDP by end of this year is estimated to be about 250-270B dollars.

It very interesting when dumb people call other dumb. PLEEEEEEEEEEase nigga. Get some education. At least on your country.

Austine1213:


Shrinkage is is world over on big economies, i don't know if you stupid or plain dum

Egypt - tourism, oil, are on of its biggest contributors
Algeria depend on oil

Do the math

samorobo:


Austin all of this afforementioned countries have fake GDP because they are all higher than Kenya..he is ashamywe all make Kenya feel inferior,lost a d completely out of the league

Kenya seems to be doing bad in education 3 rvp is evidence of it

South Africa should copy Kenya education - you only excel in universities because you can attract Africa student and academia- but not for long. Your basic education is BASICALLY CRAP.

One of main reasons you're in the middle class trap - and will be stuck there - is LOW-QUALITY EDUCATION - that cannot produce the next generation of workers.

Countries that escaped to developed world like Chile, Singapore, Hongkong, South Korea, Isreal - are anal about basic education and watch PISA test results like a hawk.

Austine1213:

Kenya seems to be doing bad in education 3 rvp is evidence of it

rvp20182:
It hurts when a Zoongeria like you lecture us Kenyans. I don't mind getting a mouthful from South Africa or even Rwanda..but a ZOO.

That is denigrating us man. Nigeria, Somalia, Burundi, Chad, Niger, CAR and such countries cluster together.

Oh yes I know it hurts hence why I gave you a taste of your own medicine which is an irrefutable fact...you can commence heckling like a bi*tch

Austine1213:


Kenya is not no. 3 in africa

Kenya is not no. 3 in sub Saharan Africa either

Austine1213:


I can see you not aware of what's happening in the world right now

Oil will pick up, demand will pick up

Loss making SAA liquidated, new airline coming

Technology based education for SA

World economies restructuring

In case you didnt know big GDP does not mean better, look Ghana is better/more developed than kenya despite kenya having bigger gdp

Ghanians livingbetter than kenyans

On average Ghanaians are richer than kenyans

Fact..he can heckle like a bi*tch after reading this but it's doesn't change reality.. Except of course if he is ready to start holding Kenyatta accountable....the change starts from him

rvp20182:
Says a citizen of Zoogeria who have earned 1 trillion dollars from OIL and has ABSOLUTELY nothing to show for it.

Look for other OPEC members and see what they have done....and find out WHAT HELL IS WRONG WITH YOUR PEOPLE.

Kenya has done well - by bootstrapping the little resources, working incredibly hard, and for you to denigrate us - when you cannot manage all that OIL- is the usual MADNESS.

All you need to be rich is simple - manage your oil. YOU cannot manage a NATURAL RESOURCE as easy as OIL and you want to say Nigeria and its citizen are HUMAN BEINGS? - you're nothing but a ZOO - and you're a sub-human.

Kenya has no such luxuries - whatever we have - we had to sweat for it. That includes even the whites, Indians, name them in Kenya. Nobody is out there just sitting on their idle lazy ar.se waiting for oil to be pumped.

And because you're so incapable and sub-human - you think Indians, Asians, Whites - have something SPECIAL - that you don't - they don't. They only use their brains and work hard.

Samorobo already took you to the cleaners on this your trashy angry rejoinder. So I will let it slide.

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rvp20182:
You're hiding behind little IMF colony that cannot manage it's macro-economics - depends on oil/gold - against Africa's largest non-mineral economy - Kenya.

The world economy will recover no doubt - South Africa will be one of the worst-hit - because already it was contracting at negative 1%.

The estimate are you'll contract by as much as 6% - in addition to Rand that is world worst at 25% depreciation so far - so let's say at end of the year - Egypt and even Algeria might overtake South Africa.

You're getting hit the worst time - stop dreaming of reviving South Africa Airways - it's DEAD As dodo - wrong time to die. ESKOM is where you need to figure out how to clean it's balance sheet. 32B dollars debt is Kenya total external debt.


And btw Kenya - and South Africa - will be the little phosphorous desert of Morocco.

I said NEW airline, it is a right time to die as airlines and aviation sector is on rock bottom, the new one will come at the right time.

Eskom is being dealt with already, 3 yearstime it will be ok, new energy bill will help our energy sector to the future

rvp20182:
You're hiding behind little IMF colony that cannot manage it's macro-economics - depends on oil/gold - against Africa's largest non-mineral economy - Kenya.

The world economy will recover no doubt - South Africa will be one of the worst-hit - because already it was contracting at negative 1%.

The estimate are you'll contract by as much as 6% - in addition to Rand that is world worst at 25% depreciation so far - so let's say at end of the year - Egypt and even Algeria might overtake South Africa.

You're getting hit the worst time - stop dreaming of reviving South Africa Airways - it's DEAD As dodo - wrong time to die. ESKOM is where you need to figure out how to clean it's balance sheet. 32B dollars debt is Kenya total external debt.


And btw Kenya - and South Africa - will be the little phosphorous desert of Morocco.

Honestly austine I don't know about you but if I were you I can never let rvp lecture me on currency and national Airline...like wtf

rvp20182:
South Africa should copy Kenya education - you only excel in universities because you can attract Africa student and academia- but not for long. Your basic education is BASICALLY CRAP.

One of main reasons you're in the middle class trap - and will be stuck there - is LOW-QUALITY EDUCATION - that cannot produce the next generation of workers.

Countries that escaped to developed world like Chile, Singapore, Hongkong, South Korea, Isreal - are anal about basic education and watch PISA test results like a hawk.

Mind you our ed sector is doing fine, already we got coding andand robotics carriculum, many developments coming

Covid19 is a blessing in disguise for SA

There is no servitude to Indians in Kenya. We are extremely lucky in Kenya because we got the most successfully Indian group - the Gujaratis as our citizens - and they have shown many Kenyan Africans how to get stuff done. The indians have taught us how to start business from a desert - and Kenya is far ahead thanks to us - understudying and overtaking Indians. We have done this in nearly all sector of the economy and now - black kenyan industries are competing seriously.

You have to understand kenyan indians are probably amongst the most successfully indians in diaspora.

To get ahead and become a modern country - you have to be humble - and learn from whites, indians, asians - and that is what we do.

But to get someone to steal your natural resources like you guys do is INSANITY.

obaaderemi:
Samorobo already took you to the cleaners on this your trashy angry rejoinder. So I will let it slide.
P.S Why are you people always so mad when your servitude to Indians is mentioned?

rvp20182:
I never doubt GDP of South Africa or the rest. ONLY NIGERIA GDP is totally cooked. Starting with 80-100B dollar agricluture sector. Totally baked. South Africa is Africa biggest economy - followed by Egypt - and btw Algeria and Nigeria - you can squabble.

South Africa now is 3-4 times larger than Kenya in most things. Their GDP totally make sense.

Nigeria is a joke. I checked total cargo throughput 1.8M - (like all your 10 ports) - Mombasa is doing 1.4m.

Nigeria GDP IS OVERCOOKED. South Africa will be leading economy until Egypt overtake her soon.

Hahahaha you are still crying little kid ..oya sorry, take that wipes and wipe your tear away lol
When you log off from here I know you find solace in reality that Nigeria GDP is not your mate .you can continue this online persona with those hovering wierd imagination..I couldn't care honestly....
Lol just check your maritime traffic and stop making noise

samorobo:



Honestly austine I don't know about you but if I were you I can never let rvp lecture me on currency and national Airline...like wtf

Lol i know im just letting him make a fool of himself


He doesnt know what's happening in the aviation industry now

Maybe kenyatta will decide to tell them about it in December

Are we talking elite - or nationwide program? The next phase of growth will require you to move every south african forward - well at least most of them.

Austine1213:


Mind you our ed sector is doing fine, already we got coding andand robotics carriculum, many developments coming

Covid19 is a blessing in disguise for SA

samorobo:


Hahahaha you are still crying little kid ..oya sorry, take that wipes and wipe your tear away lol
When you log off from here I know you find solace in reality that Nigeria GDP is not your mate .you can continue this online persona with those hovering wierd imagination..I could care honestly....
Lol just check your maritime traffic and stop making noise

When talking of power SA, NIGERIA, ANGOLA, "Ethiopia", and egypt are mentioned

Austine1213:


Shrinkage is is world over on big economies, i don't know if you stupid or plain dum

Egypt - tourism, oil, are on of its biggest contributors
Algeria depend on oil

Do the math

Mark it on the wall..you will come back to say I told you so...
At the end of the year when all economic data would've been review Kenya will not meet any projection made for them...they will never grow up to 1%

rvp20182:
Are we talking elite - or nationwide program?

Nationwide programe

obaaderemi:
Samorobo already took you to the cleaners on this your trashy angry rejoinder. So I will let it slide.

P.S Why are you people always so mad when your servitude to Indians is mentioned?

Lol I only gave him a taste of his own medicine and he silently cooled off.....I am not all about his loud empty noise...