Where lordfalcao dey sef? E don tay wey i see am. Hope he's safe wherever he is. Airmark paddy

Long but interesting read from an interview with Major Al-Mustapha
Major Hamza Al-Mustapha (retd) was the Chief Security Officer, CSO, to the late Head of State, Gen. Sani Abacha. In this interview, Mustapha speaks on the never ending Abacha loot recovery among other issues surrounding the deceased Nigerian leader.
Many Nigerians feel that the regime of the late Gen. Sani Abacha was notorious for fraud. The looting of the country under the administration, according to revelations, is mind boggling. As his former Chief Security Officer, CSO, what is your story?
I spoke on this subject earlier but, whether alive or dead, the truth remains the truth and the truth should be told. There is no fear in saying the truth. I appeared in numerous functions and I spoke. The first time I was given the opportunity to speak was at Oputa Panel in 2000 and 2001 and when God Almighty granted me freedom I spoke on 2013.
Till date, I have been talking about what I know. For me and for those who really know how the government worked, Gen. Abacha suffered a lot of attacks. The first time I heard the word loot associated with the government was when we were in Kirikiri Prisons. I think it was in December when we were transferred from Ikoyi Prisons to Kirikiri. I saw the word ‘loot’ in the papers even though we hadn’t the opportunity of looking at newspapers properly.
And I saw some security operatives coming to discuss with Mohammed Abacha (Gen Abacha’s son) in that respect. Nobody throughout my stay with the Head of State had any transactions with me, nobody gave me money. I was operating within what was in my own office to protect the government. Now, there was an issue I talked about in 2016 in Lagos concerning Abacha loot.
What I know is that there was a time sanctions were imposed on Nigeria by the UK, US and two other countries and that was at the behest of some senior Nigerians who believed that they must fight Gen Abacha.
But to counter the sanctions, then-Head of State requested to talk with stakeholders from across Nigeria, North and South, and there was a discussion on the sanctions and the threat against the country; the meeting held in Abuja but outside the Villa because of the size of the people in attendance that was bigger than the size of the Conference Hall inside the Presidency.
The agreement at that meeting was to take funds outside into the hands of people in the private sector so that the nation could still import and export to, at least, beat the sanctions. That I know of. Any other thing outside that I really do not know, nobody consulted me.
I had nothing to do with money and that is why I said in that interview in 2016 that I was embarrassed to hear the word loot because I know how prudent the late Gen. Abacha was and I know that when the government came to power, there was nothing left in the foreign reserves. Government had less than 200 million dollars in the reserves meaning that the administration was to start afresh and people didn’t know that. He had to scavenge to run the country and build the foreign reserves to nine billion, seven hundred and thirty two dollars as of June 1998 when he died. People didn’t know but I know.
At Oputa Panel, I asked questions, the monies that were transferred into numerous accounts outside Nigeria, in whose accounts were these monies and in whose companies’ names? When were the monies taken out? Was it during General Abacha’s tenure as Head of State or when he was Minister of Defence? Nigerians need to know how much monies were in such banks and in whose accounts were they lodged? What was the agreement between the account holders and Gen. Abacha? Were the monies for Abacha or for Nigeria? Basic questions as to how monies were moved outside Nigeria must be asked and the countries in whose banks such monies were kept also have reports; what were the reports at the time of deposit? Which year?
Which time and what was the reason given for the deposit?
The unfortunate thing for Gen. Abacha was the fact that he was succeeded by two governments where personalities in them fought him and hated him to death. And I asked both governments that “if you want to investigate Abacha government, start with me”. There was nothing they didn’t do. They brought INTERPOL. They had all sorts of investigations and I challenged them they were paying me salary in Bank of the North and that they should look out for any account of mine whether in Nigeria or abroad and see what was there; if there was anything that I had taken outside what I was supposed to earn as salary, I should be exposed and prosecuted. For the 4 years 7 months of the Abacha regime, oil price remained at $8 or $9 per barrel. And General Abacha never took any loan. So the country was scavenging to survive. And from 200 million dollars in the foreign reserves, it went up to nine billion.
If he was alive, do you think so much would have been said about this loot?
If the monies recovered were associated to looting, Abacha stole nothing compared to what we are seeing. What many people don’t know genuinely is how much Nigeria is earning monthly not only from oil sector but also from every other sector of the economy. And the price of oil shot up. But there was nothing left. And you can say looting but, to me, it is all being said because he is dead. If there is true investigation, I am sure the story would be different. I know of a particular government after he died that was giving people the condition that they should abuse or condemn Abacha as a looter to get appointment. If you accept, you will become a minister or be given a parastatal to head.
But some countries have also attested to the fact that they received some loot and they tied it to Abacha. We have heard government saying monies were stashed in Switzerland among other countries.
The questions I raised earlier on every of the accounts traced, were they answered? If they are answered to the satisfaction of the laws of those countries and those of Nigeria, then you would be able to know the truth. Were the monies taken from the Central Bank? What was the reason for moving the monies?
Earlier you talked about some individuals who were invited…
I said individuals, stakeholders were invited and there was a large meeting and it was in that meeting where this decision was taken. And it was in prison that I first heard about loot, that was when the word ‘loot’ was mentioned to me and I said I was embarrassed.
Were funds given out at the time to those individuals invited for the meeting?
How can money be given there? You mean cash?
Yes.
If money moved, I haven’t seen that and if there was movement of cash physically there, everybody would have seen it. Elders from the North, elders from the South, some people from the traditional institution and some people from Manufacturers Association of Nigeria and many other stakeholders including ministers were there, members of the Provisional Ruling Council were there. The question is why are they not being asked questions? So many people are afraid to talk not because they don’t know the truth. The man Abacha suffered propaganda which affected some of us with numerous attempts on our lives just to shut some people up.
If you are asked today, did Abacha loot Nigeria’s money, would you say yes or no?
You cannot speak on what you do not know. All I know is that Abacha suffered propaganda and games of hate. He did so much in rescuing this country and helping the country but I would never speak on what I do not know. There are rumours that, to me, remain rumours and, when I see facts, I say them the way I see them and, if you see the way I testified at Oputa Panel, it tells you my character. You can threaten my life with ABCD, but, I tell you, numerous lies in high places were cooked and sponsored against General Abacha and were sustained with so much money. Nigerians were talking about $16 billion power money, right? Why was the matter covered? The whole of the Abacha loot that they are talking about was how much? But in one single incident, there was $16 billion and the whole country is defrauded and nobody can talk and I tell you it is much more than that. And a top government official was shot and that was because of that money.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/03/revelations-on-abacha-loot-how-funds-were-taken-out-of-nigeria-al-mustapha-2/


cc: Ibime, Larride, and Roland17

Wetin be this

timbros:




E pain dem

This one enter wella

You've been lying for years no be today.


Cc airmark

pkasso:
Where lordfalcao dey sef? E don tay wey i see am. Hope he's safe wherever he is. Airmark paddy

present

Amoto94:
Long but interesting read from an interview with Major Al-Mustapha
Major Hamza Al-Mustapha (retd) was the Chief Security Officer, CSO, to the late Head of State, Gen. Sani Abacha. In this interview, Mustapha speaks on the never ending Abacha loot recovery among other issues surrounding the deceased Nigerian leader.
Many Nigerians feel that the regime of the late Gen. Sani Abacha was notorious for fraud. The looting of the country under the administration, according to revelations, is mind boggling. As his former Chief Security Officer, CSO, what is your story?
I spoke on this subject earlier but, whether alive or dead, the truth remains the truth and the truth should be told. There is no fear in saying the truth. I appeared in numerous functions and I spoke. The first time I was given the opportunity to speak was at Oputa Panel in 2000 and 2001 and when God Almighty granted me freedom I spoke on 2013.
Till date, I have been talking about what I know. For me and for those who really know how the government worked, Gen. Abacha suffered a lot of attacks. The first time I heard the word loot associated with the government was when we were in Kirikiri Prisons. I think it was in December when we were transferred from Ikoyi Prisons to Kirikiri. I saw the word ‘loot’ in the papers even though we hadn’t the opportunity of looking at newspapers properly.
And I saw some security operatives coming to discuss with Mohammed Abacha (Gen Abacha’s son) in that respect. [b]Nobody throughout my stay with the Head of State had any transactions with me, nobody gave me money. I was operating within what was in my own office to protect the government. Now, there was an issue I talked about in 2016 in Lagos concerning Abacha loot.
What I know is that there was a time sanctions were imposed on Nigeria by the UK, US and two other countries and that was at the behest of some senior Nigerians who believed that they must fight Gen Abacha.
But to counter the sanctions, then-Head of State requested to talk with stakeholders from across Nigeria, North and South, and there was a discussion on the sanctions and the threat against the country; the meeting held in Abuja but outside the Villa because of the size of the people in attendance that was bigger than the size of the Conference Hall inside the Presidency.
The agreement at that meeting was to take funds outside into the hands of people in the private sector so that the nation could still import and export to, at least, beat the sanctions. That I know of. Any other thing outside that I really do not know, nobody consulted me.[/b]
I had nothing to do with money and that is why I said in that interview in 2016 that I was embarrassed to hear the word loot because I know how prudent the late Gen. Abacha was and I know that when the government came to power, there was nothing left in the foreign reserves. Government had less than 200 million dollars in the reserves meaning that the administration was to start afresh and people didn’t know that. He had to scavenge to run the country and build the foreign reserves to nine billion, seven hundred and thirty two dollars as of June 1998 when he died. People didn’t know but I know.
At Oputa Panel, I asked questions, the monies that were transferred into numerous accounts outside Nigeria, in whose accounts were these monies and in whose companies’ names? When were the monies taken out? Was it during General Abacha’s tenure as Head of State or when he was Minister of Defence? Nigerians need to know how much monies were in such banks and in whose accounts were they lodged? What was the agreement between the account holders and Gen. Abacha? Were the monies for Abacha or for Nigeria? Basic questions as to how monies were moved outside Nigeria must be asked and the countries in whose banks such monies were kept also have reports; what were the reports at the time of deposit? Which year?
Which time and what was the reason given for the deposit?
The unfortunate thing for Gen. Abacha was the fact that he was succeeded by two governments where personalities in them fought him and hated him to death. And I asked both governments that “if you want to investigate Abacha government, start with me”. There was nothing they didn’t do. They brought INTERPOL. They had all sorts of investigations and I challenged them they were paying me salary in Bank of the North and that they should look out for any account of mine whether in Nigeria or abroad and see what was there; if there was anything that I had taken outside what I was supposed to earn as salary, I should be exposed and prosecuted. For the 4 years 7 months of the Abacha regime, oil price remained at $8 or $9 per barrel. And General Abacha never took any loan. So the country was scavenging to survive. And from 200 million dollars in the foreign reserves, it went up to nine billion.
If he was alive, do you think so much would have been said about this loot?
If the monies recovered were associated to looting, Abacha stole nothing compared to what we are seeing. What many people don’t know genuinely is how much Nigeria is earning monthly not only from oil sector but also from every other sector of the economy. And the price of oil shot up. But there was nothing left. And you can say looting but, to me, it is all being said because he is dead. If there is true investigation, I am sure the story would be different. I know of a particular government after he died that was giving people the condition that they should abuse or condemn Abacha as a looter to get appointment. If you accept, you will become a minister or be given a parastatal to head.
But some countries have also attested to the fact that they received some loot and they tied it to Abacha. We have heard government saying monies were stashed in Switzerland among other countries.
The questions I raised earlier on every of the accounts traced, were they answered? If they are answered to the satisfaction of the laws of those countries and those of Nigeria, then you would be able to know the truth. Were the monies taken from the Central Bank? What was the reason for moving the monies?
Earlier you talked about some individuals who were invited…
I said individuals, stakeholders were invited and there was a large meeting and it was in that meeting where this decision was taken. And it was in prison that I first heard about loot, that was when the word ‘loot’ was mentioned to me and I said I was embarrassed.
Were funds given out at the time to those individuals invited for the meeting?
How can money be given there? You mean cash?
Yes.
If money moved, I haven’t seen that and if there was movement of cash physically there, everybody would have seen it. Elders from the North, elders from the South, some people from the traditional institution and some people from Manufacturers Association of Nigeria and many other stakeholders including ministers were there, members of the Provisional Ruling Council were there. The question is why are they not being asked questions? So many people are afraid to talk not because they don’t know the truth. The man Abacha suffered propaganda which affected some of us with numerous attempts on our lives just to shut some people up.
If you are asked today, did Abacha loot Nigeria’s money, would you say yes or no?
You cannot speak on what you do not know. All I know is that Abacha suffered propaganda and games of hate. He did so much in rescuing this country and helping the country but I would never speak on what I do not know. There are rumours that, to me, remain rumours and, when I see facts, I say them the way I see them and, if you see the way I testified at Oputa Panel, it tells you my character. You can threaten my life with ABCD, but, I tell you, numerous lies in high places were cooked and sponsored against General Abacha and were sustained with so much money. Nigerians were talking about $16 billion power money, right? Why was the matter covered? The whole of the Abacha loot that they are talking about was how much? But in one single incident, there was $16 billion and the whole country is defrauded and nobody can talk and I tell you it is much more than that. And a top government official was shot and that was because of that money.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/03/revelations-on-abacha-loot-how-funds-were-taken-out-of-nigeria-al-mustapha-2/


cc: Ibime, Larride, and Roland17

The embolden collaborates my thoughts about Abacha not caring about the sanctions you raised. He was not bothered and was not looking to please the west to lift the sanctions so that does not play into our argument, if anything it makes my case.
More importantly, Al Mustafa was speaking primarily about his own role. If you read closely you would see he maintained the bulk of his stance using “I”. It is obvious and clear Abacha reserved the office of petroleum and revenue to himself.
In summary am I supposed to believe that Abacha did not steal during his reign? Because that is what Mustafa is trying to sell with what you posted! There was a section where he said, Nigerian have no idea how much wealth Nigeria has including revenue incurred from other sectors of the economy. We are talking about a nation that does not have a standard data system for its citizens, is that the nation that can accurately capture true reporting of oil revenue especially during an era when there was no accountability?

Roland17:


The embolden collaborates my thoughts about Abacha not caring about the sanctions you raised. He was not bothered and was not looking to please the west to lift the sanctions so that does not play into our argument, if anything it makes my case.
More importantly, Al Mustafa was speaking primarily about his own role. If you read closely you would see he maintained the bulk of his stance using “I”. It is obvious and clear Abacha reserved the office of petroleum and revenue to himself.
In summary am I supposed to believe that Abacha did not steal during his reign? Because that is what Mustafa is trying to sell with what you posted! There was a section where he said, Nigerian have no idea how much wealth Nigeria has including revenue incurred from other sectors of the economy. We are talking about a nation that does not have a standard data system for its citizens, is that the nation that can accurately capture true reporting of oil revenue especially during an era when there was no accountability?

I never said Abacha didn't steal what I suggest is that all the returned monies are not stolen funds, which is what al-Mustapha is implying too.

diggz:


You've been lying for years no be today.


Cc airmark

Na so the thing pain you reach? To type 'timbros' and 'lie' for search bar? And to tag your backup?

E still never remove the fact say VVD na retreating traffic warden

lordfalcao:
present

How far na? I no see make you post, na why i dey ask of you. Hope you dey kampe?

timbros:


Na so the thing pain you reach? To type 'timbros' and 'lie' for search bar? And to tag your backup?

E still never remove the fact say VVD na retreating traffic warden

You're obviously daft, and I'm not interested in your f00lishness!

Show me a single post I made on VVD Mr linus!

Godx:

Cafu vs Dani it seems. I am surprised no single love for lahm.

Blame it on the BUndesliga.

pkasso:
How far na? I no see make you post, na why i dey ask of you. Hope you dey kampe?

yea nwanne

timbros:


Na so the thing pain you reach? To type 'timbros' and 'lie' for search bar? And to tag your backup?

E still never remove the fact say VVD na retreating traffic warden

keep schooling airmark

timbros:


Yea true.

But for the number of goals he has, these misses are forgivable.

I agree he's performed above expectations for a player of his calibre. But if you're not at the top top, people will always demand more from you.

lordfalcao:
keep schooling airmark

raumdeuter:


Similar to how Buhari contested elections lost and started calling for a revolution

BUHARI COMMENDS EGYPT’S REVOLUTIONARIES
The CPC flagbearer commended the revolutionaries in Egypt, asking Nigerians to emulate them and support themselves regardless of religious divides.

“More importantly Nigerians have to learn from the way faiths integrated to achieve national aspiration. Christians formed rings round Muslims as they observed their Jumat prayers during the demonstrations,” Buhari said.

In 2003 after Buhari lost, he called for a protest against the swearing in of Obasanjo

Buhari is King David in 2 Samuel 12: 4-7. Hyprocrite oshi.

Godx:










Cafu vs Dani it seems. I am surprised no single love for lahm.

Alves for me and by some distance.


I find Lahm a bit overrated. A very good player, consistent and versatile but never touched the heights Alves did.

Swissh:


Alves for me and by some distance.


I find Lahm a bit overrated. A very good player, consistent and versatile but never touched the heights Alves did.

Alves is the one overated. He was dog shit for Brazil until the last Copa America. He wasn't a regular starter for Brazil during his peak (Copa 2007 & 2011 and the World Cup 2010), Peak maicon was benching his ass or forcing him into other positions. Maicon was better talkless of Cafu and Lahm.

larride:
Sowore contested an election, he lost and then started calling for revolution in the country. Let him go and try it in the US whether he won’t spend the rest of his life in Guantanamo Bay.

Is there anywhere in the US where a court will order for a detainee to be released and the state will refuse

raumdeuter:


Similar to how Buhari contested elections lost and started calling for a revolution

BUHARI COMMENDS EGYPT’S REVOLUTIONARIES
The CPC flagbearer commended the revolutionaries in Egypt, asking Nigerians to emulate them and support themselves regardless of religious divides.

“More importantly Nigerians have to learn from the way faiths integrated to achieve national aspiration. Christians formed rings round Muslims as they observed their Jumat prayers during the demonstrations,” Buhari said.

In 2003 after Buhari lost, he called for a protest against the swearing in of Obasanjo

Did you actually listen to those Sowore videos I posted?

How is calling for protest and revolution the same thing? Can you bring out any video where Buhari said half of what Sowore said in those videos I posted?

raumdeuter:


Is there anywhere in the US where a court will order for a detainee to be released and the state will refuse

Talk to those in Guantanamo Bay who didn’t even get a chance for a trial.

diggz:


It's amazing you can see the joke in your first paragraph

We should overlook that the Dss tried to arrest someone within the court because of what falana said about el zazaky,right? You're such a political genius

Your president chose to waste taxpayers money on personal ego yet you're here as usual playing the party man. Una deserve everything una dey face for Nigeria!

Is there a Law that says someone cannot be arrested in the court of law? Or we should just accept it because Falana says it’s the first time he’s seeing it?

larride:


Did you actually listen to those Sowore videos I posted?

How is calling for protest and revolution the same thing? Can you bring out any video where Buhari said half of what Sowore said in those videos I posted?

So newspaper report is not enough
Do we have videos of Buhari attending secondary school, since we don't have such videos we can assume it didnt happen

larride:
Talk to those in Guantanamo Bay who didn’t even get a chance for a trial.

And those in Guantanamo bay committed the same offence as Sowore?

raumdeuter:


Similar to how Buhari contested elections lost and started calling for a revolution

BUHARI COMMENDS EGYPT’S REVOLUTIONARIES
The CPC flagbearer commended the revolutionaries in Egypt, asking Nigerians to emulate them and support themselves regardless of religious divides.

“More importantly Nigerians have to learn from the way faiths integrated to achieve national aspiration. Christians formed rings round Muslims as they observed their Jumat prayers during the demonstrations,” Buhari said.

In 2003 after Buhari lost, he called for a protest against the swearing in of Obasanjo

“Unlike the Egyptians who went through self-denial for 18 unbroken days to achieve their aspiration for leadership change, Nigerians just have to take their voter cards, vote on each election day and ensure that their votes count and are properly counted.

This is from the same interview, pray tell how is this the same with what Sowore is calling for?

raumdeuter:

So newspaper report is not enough
Do we have videos of Buhari attending secondary school, since we don't have such videos we can assume it didnt happen

“Unlike the Egyptians who went through self-denial for 18 unbroken days to achieve their aspiration for leadership change, Nigerians just have to take their voter cards, vote on each election day and ensure that their votes count and are properly counted.

Why did you skip this from the same interview on the Egypt revolution?

Trying to pick out a certain aspect of the statement to make mischief.

larride:


“Unlike the Egyptians who went through self-denial for 18 unbroken days to achieve their aspiration for leadership change, Nigerians just have to take their voter cards, vote on each election day and ensure that their votes count and are properly counted.

This is from the same interview, pray tell how is this the same with what Sowore is calling for?

Did Buhari call for revolution against a sitting govt which he lost elections against? Yes. Did Sowore call for revolution against a govt which he lost elections against? Yes

larride:


“Unlike the Egyptians who went through self-denial for 18 unbroken days to achieve their aspiration for leadership change, Nigerians just have to take their voter cards, vote on each election day and ensure that their votes count and are properly counted.

Why did you skip this from the same interview on the Egypt revolution?

Trying to pick out a certain aspect of the statement to make mischief.

Do you have video of Buhari making this statement?

raumdeuter:


Did Buhari call for revolution against a sitting govt which he lost elections against? Yes. Did Sowore call for revolution against a govt which he lost elections against? Yes

Buhari called for revolution of the ballot box

Sowore called for revolution to overthrow a democratic elected government.

All over the world, it is a TREASONABLE offense.

raumdeuter:


Do you have video of Buhari making this statement?

It is from the same statement you shared in your first post.

Are you asking me for video evidence of a statement you referenced first?

larride:


It is from the same statement you shared in your first post.

Are you asking me for video evidence of a statement you referenced first?

How come you are presenting some evidence without video backup

You were the one who insisted on videos and you are now presenting stuffs without video backup

larride:


Did you actually listen to those Sowore videos I posted?

How is calling for protest and revolution the same thing? Can you bring out any video where Buhari said half of what Sowore said in those videos I posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtY62Fx4koA

This is a video of your president commanding people to kill