MayorofLagos:
Rename Umuahia to Rumuahia.

Let omo Ibo understand how Ikwerre feels.

HopeAtHand:



Tell the origin of the Igbos.. and may i remind you that there are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria and they all deserve to be regarded and accorded respect no matter how large or little their individual population are.

There is something about Igbos and their ITK tendencies. You people are very nosy and do not concern yourselves to things that directly concern you. Also, People who lived in the former eastern region can attest to Igbo overbearing posture on other smaller erhnicities and it is still very evident till today.

Only in the dreams of Igbos will be Ikwerre be Igbo.

omonnakoda:
http://247ureports.com/beyond-chimamanda-and-the-rumu-umu-controversyby-okachikwu-dibia/

Also recall that during the Eastern Regional Government, Igbo language was the second official language used to teach in schools throughout the region, to worship in churches and used in offices. Some Ikwerre who dared to use Ikwerre language in the church for example were punished by the Igbo who were in charge of the churches in the first place (see page 145 in my book titled: The Challenge of Ikwerre Development in Nigeria 2011).

joeyfire:


This unknown writer makes a ludicrous point and then cites his pamphlet as a reference if the man wants to sell more copies he for talk. Arrant nonsense. Na the kind awada keri keri wey dey give our south west brothers joy as they maintain their grip on the Niger Delta oil companies and marginalise the indigenes

omonnakoda:


Actually what you have posted buttresses his argument.

Can you dispute the repeated occurrence of RUMU in the Ikwerre bible?

joeyfire:


Translate what you posted so we can understand the meaning and context

omonnakoda:


Cheap

I don't gave to do anything


The English bible is online
The Ikwerre bible is online https://ebible.org/ikwNT/
The igbo bible us too
So just compare verse for verse

Simples

joeyfire:


But you "gave" the energy to post an unfounded hack piece as evidence I guessed as much

joeyfire:


But you "gave" the energy to post an unfounded hack piece as evidence I guessed as much

omonnakoda:

Next thing you will say I wrote the IKWERRE BIBLE

joeyfire:


Ok

Before independence this was the name of where this flowstation was located. As far as I know the Willinks Commission (I could be wrong though) did not report this forced name change that south west people are so desperate to prove for reasons best known to you

joeyfire:


Ok

Before independence this was the name of where this training school was located. As far as I know the Willinks Commission (I could be wrong though) did not report this forced name change that south west people are so desperate to prove for reasons best known to you

joeyfire:


Ok

Before independence this was the name of where this training school was located. As far as I know the Willinks Commission (I could be wrong though) did not report this forced name change that south west people are so desperate to prove for reasons best known to you

omonnakoda:


It is not a flow station. I know the area
That is located at the Industrial Area next to Rumuomasi. Today it is called Rumubiakani

The Ikwerre people are claiming Igbos renamed their towns and villages

That place gas been renamed to Rumubiakani for more than 40 years.

Like EVERY OTHER UMU.

So what exactly is the point you are making with that picture
Was this on the Agenda of Willinks Commission?

Is mentioning Willinks relevant here or a failed attempt to sound like you are knowledgeable

joeyfire:


Ikwerres who want some clout and yorubas like yourself are the ones whipping this dead horse. So Willinks Commission knowledge is a big deal to you? Let me help you. If you don't know the Willinks Commission was set up to examine minorities and their concern about domination...so yes this would have been on the agenda if it was an issue of substance BEFORE the civil war caused people to deny their heritage to survive

omonnakoda:
Well I am not an Ikwerre person and so I am not in a position to educate you. What is important is what the Ikwerre people say they are. I have interacted with many of them and they appear to have some similarities with Ibos but then all Ghanaians appear s imilar to Nigerian observers and there is such a thing as a "Nigerian" accent.Many Nigerian appear same to outsiders but there are significant differences nevertheless. Even among the Ibos there are many groups that only engage in farming/fishing or office work and have little aptitude for travelling or trading but people lump them all as one. Many of these groups never even knew of each other's existence before Nigeria not to talk of intermarrying and such like.
Like I said before Egyptian,Tunisians,Moroccans and so on all speak Arabic and are Muslims but ethnically they are not Arabs ,they know this and the Arabs know this. many of them belong to the group know as Berbers some of whom we saw begging in Nigeria in the 80s and 90s.

Language is not what makes a people but their own self narrative and Ikwerres had been asserting that they are not Igbos LONG BEFORE Biafra as many like to pretend.
In fact there was a hearing "WILLINKS COMMISSION" 1957 before independence in 1960 where this same matter came up so it is dishonest to pretend it was merely a consequence of the Civil war.There are other Igbo groups in Rivers state e.g Etche and Oyigbo why have they not gone down the same path?
Ultimately these are questions for them and for the Ikwerre people who assert they are not Igbo

joeyfire:


Ikwerres who want some clout and yorubas like yourself are the ones whipping this dead horse. So Willinks Commission knowledge is a big deal to you? Let me help you. If you don't know the Willinks Commission was set up to examine minorities and their concern about domination...so yes this would have been on the agenda if it was an issue of substance BEFORE the civil war caused people to deny their heritage to survive

joeyfire:


Ikwerres who want some clout and yorubas like yourself are the ones whipping this dead horse. So Willinks Commission knowledge is a big deal to you? Let me help you. If you don't know the Willinks Commission was set up to examine minorities and their concern about domination...so yes this would have been on the agenda if it was an issue of substance BEFORE the civil war caused people to deny their heritage to survive

omonnakoda:

Speak about the fact tha the word Rumu is what is found in the Ikwerre bible NOT UMU

The Ikwerre position which also led to the Ikwerre bible was a protest against internal Ibo colonisation

omonnakoda:

One thing that did happen at Willinks in 1957 was Ikwerre said they are NOT IBO

joeyfire:


Did Ikwerres tell the Willinks Commission that the names of all towns in their land were renamed? Stay on topic please

joeyfire:


You don't even know the meaning of the passages you posted bearing Rumu and you want to debate it

omonnakoda:

Stop ridiculing yourself.
This issue has nothing to do with Willinks
I have been talking about Willinks for years on Nairaland





I am the one to educate YOU about Willinks.

It is irrelevant here

joeyfire:


You don't even know the meaning of the passages you posted bearing Rumu and you want to debate it

joeyfire:


How can a minority ethnic group's alleged marginalisation be irrelevant to the Commission created for them bikonu Educate me no be do or die matter. Did the Ikwerres complain of renaming of their communities at the Willinks Commission? That's the aim of this your thread abi? Where is the proof? I like to learn new stuff

omonnakoda:
Create a thread for Willinks if you want to learn.

This thread is about RUMUIZATION AND DEUMUIZATION

joeyfire:


In summary...you have no proof that Igbos changed the names asides from an Ikwerre unknown clout chaser's article written to help promote his book. After claiming to be a professor of the willinks commission and knowing that the Ikwerre's petitioned the commission, you scurried away from showing what the Ikwerres told the commission when asked to prove it

This myth is played out

joeyfire:


In summary...you have no proof that Igbos changed the names asides from an Ikwerre unknown clout chaser's article written to help promote his book. After claiming to be a professor of the willinks commission and knowing that the Ikwerre's petitioned the commission, you scurried away from showing what the Ikwerres told the commission when asked to prove it

This myth is played out