safarigirl:

Based on my level of expertise, garnered for many years, in observation of the human mind, specifically, the minds of those of negroid race, in most parts of the West African region, I willll be posting my personal opinion on why this is so.

I therefore, implore, the elite members of this thread, that they indulge me, on a topic that would be regarded as a deviation on this thread.

Honestly, the black race, has always been intrigued by those who look nothing like us. The same way the white race is intrigued by those who look nothing like them.

Colonialism not only introduced caucasians to the negroid race, it also indoctrinated the negroid race, into their own beliefs....including what should be considered attractive.

Now, if you notice, lots of negorids find eurocentric features attractive; light skin, curly hair, an aquiline nose, colored eyes....you know, features found in white people. Of all these features though, the most worshipped has to be the skin and the hair texture, because these are features that are somewhat rare around these parts. So, your cousins attracted all of that attention, because, they were unique. Same way in a room filled with ladies of various complexions, the average negro male, is more likely to be attracted to the ladies of lighter complexion than those with a darker tone. You could also blame years of this indoctrination, that light is right, for such an attraction.

Now, flip it over, and a negroid finds themselves in a place filled with white people. You are now the unique person, and in much the same way, white people are intrigued by the different skin tone and hair texture. So, the darker skinned negros, are more likely to attract the attention of white people, due to their uniqueness, than the lighter ones. That is why, in the UK, your cousins grew invisible; because over there, their skin tone and hair texture is common, but yours isn't.

I have so much more to say on this topic, but for the purpose of this thread, this is where I drop my golden pen in the basket of psychology. Gracias

Nice write-up Safarigirl.

You are a good psychologist.

Danielnino00:


They are decieveing themselves.. the Gernot Rohr we know won't bench his regular boys for any newbie unless absolutely necessary....

Lols

Tell them jare

Provoker:
if you like analyse it from today till tomorrow even bring out solid points, billing can Never bench Ndidi.
Infact no midfielder in our team not even etebo can bench Ndidi
Even when aribo came, it was etebo position on the line, if the team needs to be more attacking then etebo would be sacrificed. That's just the reality.
Ndidi plays in a 2 man pivot and gives his best yet you aren't satisfied. Ndidi doesn't give average performances for super eagles.
When pinnick was asked which he doesn't joke with, he said ndidi because ndidi is very loyad plays with the same passion he plays with for leceister.
How y'all started criticizing ndidi was very surprising to me.
Ndidi till he retires is untouchable!

Apparently....you no dae watch our ball.
Bye

daveP:



Exactly my point.




Anyway Chinedu Obasi is live on IG right now. The matter is escalating.....

With who

We are yet to sight or get a midfielder that can bench Iwobi, not even Ebere Eze.

Looks like Osimhen is staying put for now

https://sempreinter.com/2020/05/10/inter-target-victor-osimhen-snubs-move-to-serie-a-as-he-looks-to-stay-with-lille/

Meliforme:
We are yet to sight or get a midfielder that can bench Iwobi, not even Ebere Eze.

What midfielders has he been fighting for spot with before?

Subzero047:


I feel Rohr will prefer a dynamic and hardworking 3 in midfield rather than 2 defending and leaving the creative work to a 10

I think football has moved away from the later

Well you'll need creativity from outwide or your full backs. Iwobi can play from the left.

Please tell me who said Billing will bench Ndidi instantly, or in any timeframe? Then let me ask again, please tell me who said Ndidi will never be benched till eternity? Follow the discussion. .

Danielnino00:


@ your last paragraph.. Rohr is the coach...have u ever seen Rohr bench one of his regular players for any newbies he calls up?

Reminds me of #MeToo. But nothing go happen here.

Humility017:

Lol...I tell you

for somehow and basco

I have a question for them.

could it be all this guys held a meeting and now choose to come out to speak this words on allegations of bribery for call ups

if we really use our tongue to count our teeth it means there is really something happening behind the scene....and Keshi is not free from this

dude was so corrupt and plus the corruption from those folks at the glass house

Subzero047:


What midfielders has he been fighting for spot with before?

Some folks were saying that a new entrant Iike Ejaria or a prospect like Ebere Eze can bench Iwobi.

As it stands, none of those has what it takes to kick Iwobi to the bench.

Joebie:
Please tell me who said Billing will bench Ndidi instantly, or in any timeframe? Then let me ask again, please tell me who said Ndidi will never be benched till eternity? Follow the discussion. .

U made the assumption that Billing could displace Ndidi if he gets to play for the national team...
And I'm telling u that Rohr won't bench Ndidi or any of his regular boys just like that for Billing or any other player..
Rohr doesn't operate like that!

If Billing gets a call up for our next game,he will have to wait to get his chance as long as Ndidi is fit...unless he wish to play another role aside from DM .

And yes,Ndidi will never be benched as long as he is fit and available !

"I think it is very tough if a coach is already an agent," Amokachi continued. "It is very, very difficult, and that is why I always say you cannot be a coach and be an agent at the same time". https://africa.espn.com/football/nigeria/story/3493688/daniel-amokachis-ideye-brown-lesson-must-be-heeded-by-gernot-rohr?platform=amp&device=featurephone&__twitter_impression=true

Meliforme:

Some folks were saying that a new entrant Iike Ejaria or a prospect like Ebere Eze can bench Iwobi.

As it stands, none of those has what it takes to kick Iwobi to the bench.

That's the point, Iwobi has never competed with anyone for a starting shirt so you can't say his position is automatically guaranteed

ZikTzu:

Well you'll need creativity from outwide or your full backs. Iwobi can play from the left.

Iwobi is poor as a winger, we have natural wingers who can perform far better in that position

"I think it is very tough if a coach is already an agent," Amokachi continued. "It is very, very difficult, and that is why I always say you cannot be a coach and be an agent at the same time.

"When the World Cup comes around, you always have a lot of new players showing up," he added. "Players who will decide that they are Nigerians and bring confusion into the team.

"When you find yourself in that situation, you try to advise, because you have agents that will be calling left, right and centre.

"If a coach is an agent, he will fall a victim too. Those are things that we really really need to avoid. There is no room to be trying new players."

-Amokachi on 2014 WC without calling names

Danielnino00:


You guys are just making assumptions about who is safe or who will lose his spot..
You are forgetting some important things..

1) There's no guarantee yet that any of those players including Ejaria will be invited so soon...For all we know,Rohe may be satisfied with his squad for now and feels he doesn't need any new addition..

2) Rohe values loyalty among his players.. He won't bench any of his regular boys so soon for the newbies.. I can assure you that .

1) There is every guarantee that Ejaria will be invited as soon as possible because we are thin in the midfield department

2) Rohr values his regular boys AS LONG AS THEY ARE PLAYING, we saw what happened with Balogun. If Iwobi lacks playing time I'm sure Ejaria will be replacing him

tbaba1234:
"I think it is very tough if a coach is already an agent," Amokachi continued. "It is very, very difficult, and that is why I always say you cannot be a coach and be an agent at the same time.

"When the World Cup comes around, you always have a lot of new players showing up," he added. "Players who will decide that they are Nigerians and bring confusion into the team.

"When you find yourself in that situation, you try to advise, because you have agents that will be calling left, right and centre.

"If a coach is an agent, he will fall a victim too. Those are things that we really really need to avoid. There is no room to be trying new players."

-Amokachi on 2014 WC without calling names

does he need to name anybody again? The first paragraph says it all, and we all know who was the coach

Subzero047:


That's the point, Iwobi has never competed with anyone for a starting shirt so you can't say his position is automatically guaranteed

I don't think you got my point, in the first place

rabzy:


Madam you be ajebo jor...no wonder nah Potbelly you dey see up and down and those wey no get, nah gym dey help dem. Ajebo kids have Potbelly from kindergarten. As small as the VI and lekki is...all the number of gyms there would be 10 times what we have in the rest of Lagos.

Safari, I think we are looking at different demographics...Nigerian boys (not the minority ajebors) of 20 to mid 30s potbellied?...for where dem see am....how many potbellied boys did you see in public universities and how many do you see of these young men in offices...it is when Naija men are nearing 40s and 50s that pot belly starts developing in most cases....and they are still not as much as those that don't have...people living below poverty lines can't afford Potbelly generally... just look at newsreel of people walking on Lagos streets..like marina and broad Street...you can't be seeing potbellied men everywhere..
Well about men not feeling the need to put in efforts in their looks..that's very true...it's the way the gender, culture etc has evolved over the course of human history...yeah a man is never ugly nor promiscuous....sad but very true.

Some of the most fit Nigerian boys are those ajebos of 20s to mid 30's, they actually gym and eat healthy. Their muscle mass is organic, it is not from knacking wood and carrying block, it is from eating a specific diet and visiting the gym. Now, those ajepako wey no need any special looks to find women, na dem no send pass.

Their own keeping fit is to play ball on Saturdays, maybe run on top bridge, and that's that. No supporting diet, because their food na bread and akara when dem don finish. Those are the few ones that even look fit. The majority just want to make small money wey dem go use go bar, drink one or two bottles of Orijin with their friends, chop roasted fish while watching Chelsea V. Tottenham. Their own physical exercise na when dem jump for front of TV because Tammy Abraham miss open net.

Guy, no make me analyse men dem for here.

daveP:



It wasnt a one man job. So why let them remain the dark too.

He wasnt in total control of the team so some higher powers and puppet masters must definitely be involved. Alll can't be in the dark and the coach will be pulling such strings alone. Abeg.

How many people have asked about their contribution to the AFCON triumph? Cos I haven't yet seen anyone here do?


What's goose for the goose, is good for the gander.

When Keshi won AFCON, no one asked about the contributions of those men or their retirement, but now that we're talking about keshi and his corrupt practices, somehow, we ought to mention his backroom staff?


Really?

maybe you have comprehension problem..

You have said Ndidi will NEVER be benched if he is fit and available. And I am suppose to argue with you on that? That kind argument no get head and tail.

Danielnino00:


U made the assumption that Billing could displace Ndidi if he gets to play for the national team...
And I'm telling u that Rohr won't bench Ndidi or any of his regular boys just like that for Billing or any other player..
Rohr doesn't operate like that!

If Billing gets a call up for our next game,he will have to wait to get his chance as long as Ndidi is fit...unless he wish to play another role aside from DM .

And yes,Ndidi will never be benched as long as he is fit and available !

Taiye Taiwo don join

Wait Taribo?


The spatula wey dey stir this hornets nest eh......

If Billing eventually turns out for us and he can translate his club performances to the national team, he would add something we currently lack in midfield. And that is aerial duels. He could prove a good addition. Let's wait and see.

Another comparison with Ndidi from a different stats tool.

daveP:
Taiye Taiwo don join

Wait Taribo?


The spatula wey dey stir this hornets nest eh......

Link jorrh

Or quote it for us here

D Amokachi
Assistant coach to Keshi at 2014 WC


"Brown(Ideye) for me was one player that I regret that we did not take to the World Cup in 2014,"

"Hundred percent I didn't know how he didn't make that list," he added. "I never saw it coming that he didn't make the list till when the list came out and we found out."
"We ended up going to the World Cup with players that even me I don't even know."


Okay,
Let's hear from Pinnick


Q: Was the team to the World Cup in Brazil not ambitous enough?


A: I do not have anything against Keshi. He has done so well for Nigeria. He remains the first Nigerian to win the Nations Cup as a player and a coach... Football has gone beyond having a coaching crew on the bench. The trend is now to have the technical backroom staff, peopled by expert coaches, who win matches from the bench... That is why nearly all the teams at the World Cup have the technical backroom staff. But Nigeria did not have that and that was because Keshi did not want it. He thought that they were going to take his job away and we all saw in Brazil that it could have been very different if we had such technical experts in the backroom, advising Keshi during match days or even before.

People had mindset before going to the World Cup. What was Keshi's plan at the World Cup? Was it to win the trophy? If his plans were to win the World Cup or develop our team for the future, we would have said said yes, we tried. If he wanted to win the World Cup, he would have gone with Obafemi Martins, Ikechukwu Uche and Ogbuke Obasi because they are all match winners. I watched Obasi in action for his Schalke during my trip to Germany and saw how he laid the assist that led to the first goal and scored a beautiful goal, which made me call Keshi to ask if he was watching the game and taking note of Obasi's contributions and he said yes. But I was shocked when these guys were not included in the team to Brazil for the World Cup. Obasi was hot this season.


Okay, I'm done.

All of you asking for their names to be named. Apparently, Keshi was totally and solely in charge of his squad(i'm not counting NFF o), to the extent that even his assistants don't know how he picks his players

barackodam:
D Amokachi
Assistant coach to Keshi at 2014 WC


"Brown(Ideye) for me was one player that I regret that we did not take to the World Cup in 2014,"

"Hundred percent I didn't know how he didn't make that list," he added. "I never saw it coming that he didn't make the list till when the list came out and we found out."
"We ended up going to the World Cup with players that even me I don't even know."


Okay,
Let's hear from Pinnick


Q: Was the team to the World Cup in Brazil not ambitous enough?


A: I do not have anything against Keshi. He has done so well for Nigeria. He remains the first Nigerian to win the Nations Cup as a player and a coach... Football has gone beyond having a coaching crew on the bench. The trend is now to have the technical backroom staff, peopled by expert coaches, who win matches from the bench... That is why nearly all the teams at the World Cup have the technical backroom staff. But Nigeria did not have that and that was because Keshi did not want it. He thought that they were going to take his job away and we all saw in Brazil that it could have been very different if we had such technical experts in the backroom, advising Keshi during match days or even before.

People had mindset before going to the World Cup. What was Keshi's plan at the World Cup? Was it to win the trophy? If his plans were to win the World Cup or develop our team for the future, we would have said said yes, we tried. If he wanted to win the World Cup, he would have gone with Obafemi Martins, Ikechukwu Uche and Ogbuke Obasi because they are all match winners. I watched Obasi in action for his Schalke during my trip to Germany and saw how he laid the assist that led to the first goal and scored a beautiful goal, which made me call Keshi to ask if he was watching the game and taking note of Obasi's contributions and he said yes. But I was shocked when these guys were not included in the team to Brazil for the World Cup. Obasi was hot this season.


Okay, I'm done.

All of you asking for their names to be named. Apparently, Keshi was totally and solely in charge of his squad(i'm not counting NFF o), to the extent that even his assistants don't know how he picks his players

Hmmmmm, in his defence tho one popular forumite here said na bouncer Keshi dey like, give him the option of Simy Nwankwo and Messi he said he'll likely go for Simy

I have not for once said what they are saying don't happen. what I am saying is that, without names, nothing can be done except you want the law enforcement agencies to go on a goose chase.
This is why you need evidence.

Another way is for our lazy journalists to go into investigative journalism, a collabo with some spies, and set some people up randomly just like some foreign journalists did to Salisu. How come we don't do such here?

Humility017:

Lol...I tell you

for somehow and basco

I have a question for them.

could it be all this guys held a meeting and now choose to come out to speak this words on allegations of bribery for call ups

if we really use our tongue to count our teeth it means there is really something happening behind the scene....and Keshi is not free from this

dude was so corrupt and plus the corruption from those folks at the glass house

Obasi use the term "they"
Sarki used the word "they" came to watch me in Poland
"They called me later to ask for money"
"they"can't be used for a single person!

Keshi can't be the sole decider of the choice of players, it's not POSSIBLE in Nigeria.
Do you know what it took Rohr to have such powers (which I still doubt)? Do you think a local coach will have such powers at that time?

For him not wanting a backroom staff, to get such request granted, I am a bit certain he must have let go of a lot of powers to those who employed him.
If Keshi was 100% in charge of picking players, there is no way Amokachi will frame ignorance of this fact!
How can you know he was the one that rejected the backroom staff offer and not know who picked all the players?

barackodam:
D Amokachi
Assistant coach to Keshi at 2014 WC


"Brown(Ideye) for me was one player that I regret that we did not take to the World Cup in 2014,"

"Hundred percent I didn't know how he didn't make that list," he added. "I never saw it coming that he didn't make the list till when the list came out and we found out."
"We ended up going to the World Cup with players that even me I don't even know."


Okay,
Let's hear from Pinnick


Q: Was the team to the World Cup in Brazil not ambitious enough?


A: I do not have anything against Keshi. He has done so well for Nigeria. He remains the first Nigerian to win the Nations Cup as a player and a coach... Football has gone beyond having a coaching crew on the bench. The trend is now to have the technical backroom staff, peopled by expert coaches, who win matches from the bench... That is why nearly all the teams at the World Cup have the technical backroom staff. But Nigeria did not have that and that was because Keshi did not want it. He thought that they were going to take his job away and we all saw in Brazil that it could have been very different if we had such technical experts in the backroom, advising Keshi during match days or even before.

People had a mindset before going to the World Cup. What was Keshi's plan at the World Cup? Was it to win the trophy? If his plans were to win the World Cup or develop our team for the future, we would have said yes, we tried. If he wanted to win the World Cup, he would have gone with Obafemi Martins, Ikechukwu Uche, and Ogbuke Obasi because they are all match winners. I watched Obasi in action for his Schalke during my trip to Germany and saw how he laid the assist that led to the first goal and scored a beautiful goal, which made me call Keshi to ask if he was watching the game and taking note of Obasi's contributions and he said yes. But I was shocked when these guys were not included in the team to Brazil for the World Cup. Obasi was hot this season.


Okay, I'm done.

All of you asking for their names to be named. Apparently, Keshi was totally and solely in charge of his squad(I'm not counting NFF o), to the extent that even his assistants don't know how he picks his players

Just like all the loots being discovered abroad are being swept under the name of the dead Abacha, criminals and corrupt people in power will prefer Keshi's name is used for this cover-up. Only a dead man can't defend himself. (Not saying he's clean 100% but he can't be the "they" they keep mentioning).

Until we start mentioning names, just like Joebie said, we will keep typing.

Jay Jay Okocha is still the master

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGnFWp4JIQ

NFF grooming Yobo as Super Eagles future coach, says Pinnick
Nigeria Football Federation President, Amaju Pinnick has disclosed that the federation appointed Joseph Yobo as assistant coach of the Eagles to prepare for a future role of the team’s manager.

Pinnick noted at the weekend that the leadership role displayed by Yobo when he was the captain of the Eagles motivated the NFF to appoint him as a member of the team’s technical crew.

He maintained that Yobo’s appointment would contribute to the development of the Eagles, as the team look ahead to qualify for the 2021 African Cup of Nations and the 2022 World Cup.

“When Yobo was captain of the Super Eagles before he retired, I saw inborn leadership character in him. His charisma and the way he carried other players in the team was exceptional.
“Yobo is a born leader. This is why the federation decided to appoint him as one of the assistants in Super Eagles team.

“We are looking up to Yobo to manage the Super Eagles in future and being part of the team’s technical crew will give him that opportunity to coach the Super Eagles in the nearest future.

“The Late Stephen Keshi was also an exceptional leader when he was the captain of the Super Eagles. He later grew in the coaching job to handle the Super Eagles. Yobo needs to be encouraged.

“This is not the first time a Nigerian retired player would be given this type of opportunity. Yobo’s presence in the Eagles will help the team,” he said.

On Yobo’s lack of the required certificate for the job, Pinnick clarified that “apart from the first assistant in the national team, other coaches that are yet to get coaching licence are allowed to be in the team’s technical set up according to the rules. So, Yobo’s appointment is on track.”

The president also revealed that the federation was working round the clock to raise funds for the Super Eagles’ campaign to qualify for the AFCON and World Cup when hostilities resume after the COVID-19 lockdown.

Eizzy003:
NFF grooming Yobo as Super Eagles future coach, says Pinnick
Nigeria Football Federation President, Amaju Pinnick has disclosed that the federation appointed Joseph Yobo as assistant coach of the Eagles to prepare for a future role of the team’s manager.

Pinnick noted at the weekend that the leadership role displayed by Yobo when he was the captain of the Eagles motivated the NFF to appoint him as a member of the team’s technical crew.

He maintained that Yobo’s appointment would contribute to the development of the Eagles, as the team look ahead to qualify for the 2021 African Cup of Nations and the 2022 World Cup.

“When Yobo was captain of the Super Eagles before he retired, I saw inborn leadership character in him. His charisma and the way he carried other players in the team was exceptional.
“Yobo is a born leader. This is why the federation decided to appoint him as one of the assistants in Super Eagles team.

“We are looking up to Yobo to manage the Super Eagles in future and being part of the team’s technical crew will give him that opportunity to coach the Super Eagles in the nearest future.

“The Late Stephen Keshi was also an exceptional leader when he was the captain of the Super Eagles. He later grew in the coaching job to handle the Super Eagles. Yobo needs to be encouraged.

“This is not the first time a Nigerian retired player would be given this type of opportunity. Yobo’s presence in the Eagles will help the team,” he said.

On Yobo’s lack of the required certificate for the job, Pinnick clarified that “apart from the first assistant in the national team, other coaches that are yet to get coaching licence are allowed to be in the team’s technical set up according to the rules. So, Yobo’s appointment is on track.”

The president also revealed that the federation was working round the clock to raise funds for the Super Eagles’ campaign to qualify for the AFCON and World Cup when hostilities resume after the COVID-19 lockdown.

Yeah until you frustrate him like you did with "African Guardiola" Oliseh. This Pinnick guy talks too much.