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Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Reference(m): 1:23pm On May 12, 2020 |
[quote author=TonyeBarcanista post=89463032][s][/s] It's obvious how you reason! I won't dignify you with any further response[/quote/ Now you have started. You don't have to reply everyone who re-posts. I certainly don't. Focus only on those who respond to your position appropriately and debate with those in a cerebral manner. Avoid distractions. That is how to succeed. 1 Like |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Glare247(m): 1:25pm On May 12, 2020 |
cheango:Gosh ,some one can reason like this ,I fear for d future of naija 7 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by nwaUrasi(m): 1:26pm On May 12, 2020 |
I seriously doubt TonyeBarcanista concocted this hogwash for public consumption. We have enough political crisis in the southern Nigeria that Mr. Barcanista should focus on; for instance, the marginalization of the Ogoni People both by the state and federal government. Ikwere people have been ruling Rivers State since 1999 till date and you are yet to raise an eyebrow because you are an Ikwerre man��� But in Actual sense, Ogoni people deserve to produce a Rivers state governor than Southern Kanduna, but you have choose to chase shadows. Continue..... 10 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Bnladan(m): 1:26pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista:I would have wanted u did same analysis on Plateau state. Isn't it a same reflection of wats happening in Kaduna? But only this tym, it is d other way round. So if Elrufai is to be blamed of marginalization, Lalong too and all his predecessors are to be blamed for years of marginalization of Muslims in Plateau 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by PHijo(m): 1:27pm On May 12, 2020 |
SLAP44: If you had sense you would not write this rubbish! Why would any sane Okrika man or Rivers Ijaw man let Ojukwu win? Do you know what Ojukwu was fighting for? Have you ever bothered to ask yourself why Adaka Boro rebelled against the government of Ironsi/Ojukwu (two Igbo)? It was the Igbo nation that lost oil revenue to Nigeria, not the Ijaw nation! As early as 1958 your elite had taken Ijaw oil wealth for themselves. If anything is wrong with Nigeria today it is all courtesy of the Igbo elite and their stupid power play. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by wickyyolo: 1:27pm On May 12, 2020 |
agulion: When boko haram started , they told them that they were killing only Christians. They northerners shut their mouth. I was in the north then. Until they started killing their people before they open mouth. Fear North! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by IME1: 1:28pm On May 12, 2020 |
In a matter of time the truth will prevail. I pray against discrimination I pray against oppression I remember the Muslim group accused Fayemi and Fayose at different times of discriminating against Muslims in appointment in Ekiti, but it was not true because I was following the appointment patterns then, Muslims had slots. Everyone who has followed Kaduna politics since 1994 will know that unlike even Plateau and Gombe states, Kaduna is made to make deliberate moves in balancing the Muslim/Christian populace in terms of appointment and elections. While other states like Kwara, Kogi, Delta and Taraba among other states with many tribes try to do their balance based on senatorial zones and tribes, not religion, Kaduna has had to make their balance based on religion. Sadly El Rufai disrupted the balance in tagging with a Muslim deputy from southern Kaduna living a very bad precedence. I know as a fact as I've lived in Sabo Tasha that Kaduna has a very very large number of Christians in the entire state, I mean indigenes not people from neighbouring states like Niger, Kebbi or others, but real Kaduna people who are Christians. Yet they are discriminated against. Why? Not good. As I said I hate discrimination against any, faith, status, race, religion, tribe, educational level, or financial standing. I stand for balance. I stand with Kaduna Christians on this one, and so would others, even Muslims who would stand by the truth irrespective. Remember when you are the one being oppressed you would want others to also stand with you? 12 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by senatordave1(m): 1:30pm On May 12, 2020 |
nwaUrasi:Leave the political deceiver.he has abandoned his state that is under wike's tyranny and even his own tribe is marginalized.let him equally talk about marginalization of Muslims in taraba and plateau 3 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by AMvanquish: 1:33pm On May 12, 2020 |
But it's Obvious el-rufai is taking after his Boss Buhari. Southern Kaduna (Christians) voted massively for PDP in the last elections and it was glaring for all to see. Figures don't lie. So I guess he is rewarding those that voted him in wholeheartedly. |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Kdon2: 1:33pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista: He will never get there by the special grace of God. Nigeria need healing not an idiot that will further the divide. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by OrdinaryNigeria(m): 1:34pm On May 12, 2020 |
Elrufai and fanatics will never take that from u, I ve never seen a state where the other half is shut off bc of difference in religion. Even academy, ABU dont give them admission in any reasonable course. Its horrible. Only God will save them. Or they stand up and face the impression. Anyway he has sholve them from all power plus the deputy governor 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by ZKOSOSO(m): 1:34pm On May 12, 2020 |
Don't believe that muslims in Kaduna are more than Christians 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by MainJoe: 1:34pm On May 12, 2020 |
I Find It Shocking That We Still Have People Defending The Demolition By Wike https://www.nairaland.com/5852600/find-it-shocking-still-people#89465990 |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by anungangampu: 1:35pm On May 12, 2020 |
Tonye you have done well... Oya face front. You know why they are silent, it is because they know at any point of anger they would join hand and reduce the south population among them. You see what the war caused. Everybody that participated in the war are suffering smiling. |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by sanesta: 1:36pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista:I agree with you to an extent. nevertheless, what is good for the goose should also be good for the gander. After these, I hope you open another thread for the marginalization of Islam in Plateau state too cos the last time I checked no Muslim has never being governor of Plateau state since 1999. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by operotimi: 1:39pm On May 12, 2020 |
This real the real problem of Nigeria Tribe/Religion has done more harm than good to the people of Nigeria. Op in anything you say or do you are first a Nigerian before anything else. haven't you observe that since the beginning of Elrufai's second tenure, Kaduna state has been peaceful to some extent... No any form of uprising emanating from ethnicity or religiosity.... So Op before you write on anything weigh your observations from both sides........ 3 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:39pm On May 12, 2020 |
sanesta:Simple! Raise the awareness so it can be known before it is taken further. |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by IMAliyu(m): 1:41pm On May 12, 2020 |
Isn't the opposite thing happening in Taraba |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Topmaike007(m): 1:41pm On May 12, 2020 |
HarunaWest:Almajari spotted 2 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by TheKingIsHere: 1:41pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista: You did well bros, don't mind ignorant people who can't see beyond their nose. The Christains in Kaduna are so marginalized that they can no longer speak. You did well for speaking for them. Keep doing what you do 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by TheKingIsHere: 1:43pm On May 12, 2020 |
ntyce: HE brought out facts. Where is your facts to discredit his own? 2 Likes |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Nobody: 1:44pm On May 12, 2020 |
Call me biased, call me naive, call me an APC supporter, call me whatever... But this thread is much ado about nothing. Yes, so we should replace El-Rufai with someone who will appoint all Chirstians and everything would be better ....like magic. You know, this is what they have been telling us for years...and no I am not from Kaduna state. They are marginalising us. They are going to sign laws that will make us all go Muslim, etc etc... And at the end of the day, what happens? Nothing. The problem with this article is that the aim is to get Chirstians to vote out APC. Which is ok...El-Rufai is not really impressing me much (He was voted in as the MAN WHO TRANSFORMED ABUJA....yet several years later, nothing much has changed) But even then, how many Chirstians will a Chirstian governor appoint? How many jobs can a Chirstian governor give Chirstians? Are we going to vote a Christian governor in so that he can give our people nice juicy appointments...that at best might affect only 100 or 200 people and their dependents? The problem with this thread is that this is why we are not a developed country. It is why the North is still underdeveloped despite years of Hausas ruling the roost, why the South did not benefit from GEJ, and so on. We are voting in people not so that we can be developed, but so that they can give our SONS AND DAUGHTERS big person job...in the hope that when we break a traffic law, they will help us. The question we should be asking about El Rufai's appointees is 'ARE THEY QUALIFED FOR THE JOB?' If not, then we can complain till thy kingdom come. If they are then we should kindly keep quiet about their religion or lack thereof. (By the way, I am a Christian, and have been treated by Muslim, athiest and even an Eckist doctor. When choosing them, did I look at their religion or whether they were qualified for the job? Oh yes, I have been treated by Christians too...). We have been hearing about marginalisaiton for years. Meanwhile, we are still severely underdeveloped. Obviously the marginalisation story has not done us any good. It is even getting to the point where some years ago, Ibos were protesting against an Ibo vice chancellor appointee because he was not the right kind of Ibo. Or the Yourbas protesting against a Yoruba appointee because she was not the right kind of Yourba...even though she was married to the 'right kind'. Nigerians self. OK...let's vote for a good christian governor in 2023...so that he can appoint CHirstians to the jobs...so that we would be admiring them like fine porcelian or something. Development, what's that? 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Topmaike007(m): 1:45pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista:leave the dude abeg him dey yarn nonsense |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by WaffenSS(m): 1:45pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista: The christians in kaduna, sponsored by CAN, spent several years demonizing El Rufai as a rabid Muslim fanatic on the basis of some comments he made, which were then twisted by CAN and its media wing to portray Mallam in a bad light. There's nothing Mallam has said that's any worse than what many pastors such as Suleiman say all the time and none of them were deemed out of line by CAN. Mallam was harassed and embarrassed when he visited kafanchan to commiserate with the people after a clash. The blood thirsty christians of kasuwan magani started a genocide that saw hundreds of Muslims slaughtered, and the christians blamed Mallam. Then later when the Agom was kidnapped by highwaymen and later murdered, christians completely blamed Mallam and were silent over the hundreds of Muslims kidnapped daily on the highways. During the elections CAN hatched a plot to ensure every single christian voted PDP to kick Mallam out, and they bought into the lie that kaduna is 50% christian. Well the results have clearly shown that christians are a minority because they failed to dislodge mallam. And you lie that there's no christian in a powerful position in the government. Samuel Aruwan is the commissioner for interior and security. That's a powerful position. As long as CAN and the christian minorities in kaduna will assume an antagonistic position then they'll have to contend with the status they chose for themselves. You're trying to create an unnecessary controversy because of attention. You should be more concerned with what your Wike is doing in your own neck of the woods. 19 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by Topmaike007(m): 1:46pm On May 12, 2020 |
SLAP44:you're from which region 1 Like |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:46pm On May 12, 2020 |
sanesta:Sir, the problem is not office of Governor, the problem is shutting out a group from holding any position as Deputy Governor, SSG, COS, Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Majority Leader, Chief Whip, Deputy Majority Leader, Deputy Whip, House Clerk and even CJ of the State. Also worse is shutting them out from ministers even when there is two slot. My brother, I'm not particular about it because Christians are affected, I am because it is the right thing to do. Tomorrow, a Christian may cite the precedent and do worse to Muslims... God forbid! BTW we are talking of people predominantly occupying 11 out of 23 LGAs 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by ednut1(m): 1:46pm On May 12, 2020 |
Juzt imagine the nonsense this tonye they type. If you have Muslims only or Christians only does that equate to good governance. Nigeria has no hope if people continue to think this way. Buhari Osunbade combo who did it help 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by TheKingIsHere: 1:46pm On May 12, 2020 |
SpyAC: Don't mind them. They cant see what is likely to happen in the future 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by mrkia(m): 1:47pm On May 12, 2020 |
Na from the crying like this they grow....lol |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by WaffenSS(m): 1:49pm On May 12, 2020 |
TonyeBarcanista: Your own house is burning, literally and figuratively, but you're concerned about a small spark in someone's house. |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by lozanni(m): 1:51pm On May 12, 2020 |
Genoa: How do you qualify a person as a failed political analyst? Hmmmm If it's the Christian part of Kaduna marginalising the Moslem part, I would have called for a redress of that imbalance, though am a Christian. Look at the Europeans, when Bosnia( a predominantly Muslim enclave) was under siege and their people being killed by the predominantly Orthodox Christian Serbs, the Europeans who are christians spoke out against this and even later arrested Serb war criminals and sent them to life imprisonment. The Europeans did the above on the premise that: The man dies in him who keeps quiet against tyranny and oppression as quoted by Prof. Rotimi Osofisan. Infact, Europe as an example is very far away, when Boko Haram started initially, they mostly targeted christians and other Muslims were nonchalant about it, but what happened eventually? They started visiting their fellow Muslims with death and destruction because they believed that the other Muslims were not practicing Islamic religion the same way with them. If you tell tonyebarcanista to keep mute as Kaduna State does not concern him, is it when El-Rufai becomes President and unleashes such parochial mindset on the nation that we shall expect him to speak out? The nation is already deeply divided by the actions of our current politicians and we do not need more of such politicians to drive our country into the abyss. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Brazen Act Of Marginalisation Of Christians In Kaduna State By Gov Elrufai by nextdoor84(m): 1:51pm On May 12, 2020 |
sanesta: Just keep quiet if you've got nothing meaningful to say. What's the percentage of muslims on the Plateau? They hold no majority in any of the local government areas there: unless in Wase Lga, where they should be like 35% Dont just compare Kaduna to Plateau abeg! The only solution and respite would come only when they have a state to call their own. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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