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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 4:14pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli:so they still managed to squeeze in this British Quinton Fortune
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:17pm On May 12, 2020 |
elrony: Our average midfield 3, this season is Fred, Scott and Perreira. So we have playing without DM?? Bros, Matic and Scot are the DM we have............. and they mostly start together against big clubs. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 4:26pm On May 12, 2020 |
Leyqute:Henderson's best career output at 30 and the stench of mediocrity is strong. I prophesy to anyone seeing this post this day; may you never wear the "average" tag in your chosen career. 9 Likes
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 4:42pm On May 12, 2020 |
Expert17: When Matic & McTominay play together.. Matic is the DM and McTominay is the CM. Now, when Fred & McTominay play together.. Fred plays deeper then McTominay. That's DM. Sometimes they interchange cos non of them is a natural Dm, they're just makeshift. If you like you argue |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:47pm On May 12, 2020 |
elrony: Ravioli: Matic and Scott mostly play together against big clubs, simply for protection. When Pogba and Mctominay play together....... i guess Pogba is the DM. You are also calling Fred a DM You guys are confused because Scott got the energy and pace to move with the attack and also recover. For scotland, he is also the DM, playing behind Mc Ginn and Mc Gregor |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 4:55pm On May 12, 2020 |
Expert17:k 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:11pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli: Wicked you |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 5:20pm On May 12, 2020 |
codedguy1: I noh get that guy time, ahbeg. He skipped where I mentioned that Fred and McTominay ain't DMs. Just makeshift. McTominay on his own is just a Box2Box midfielder. When Matic was injured he deputised/replaced him there. Same happen when McTominay was injured Fred played DM for us sometimes. He tried but ain't an expert like Ndidi, Partey and rest. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:29pm On May 12, 2020 |
When you watch only EPL, how will you know football..... --- Mc tominay plays DM for country, alongside Mc Guinn of Aston villa. How many times have you seen a midfield 2 of Fred and Pogba? compare to Mc tominay and Pogba, Matic and Pogba, Fred and Matic/Scott. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:34pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli: The guy just understood what you wrote to suit his own narrative. You no see as elrony talk say Mctominay na CM him automatically assume say elrony meant Fred is a DM. Hence the Fred quesion |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 5:41pm On May 12, 2020 |
codedguy1: Yeah.. Amala things.. Lol |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:13pm On May 12, 2020 |
ChristineC: Amen! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:15pm On May 12, 2020 |
eph12: I thought I posted the offensive stats as well. Didn't know why it didn't load.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:27pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli: I don't think I've seem McTom play DM this season. You hardly see him receiving the ball from defenders and building play. It has mostly been Fred and Matic. Fred don try gan this season o. I think he covers more ground that his team mates every match day. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:28pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli: LMAO |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:31pm On May 12, 2020 |
codedguy1: You no even see as talk quickly shift from Man U to Scotland? This guy no dey turn amala, na drive e dey drive am |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:32pm On May 12, 2020 |
Ravioli: I don't even think McTom can be a proper worldclass DM. Most likely a B2B midfielder. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:44pm On May 12, 2020 |
Fred is a DM... And you can hardly see Fred and Pogba in a midfield 2.............. I guess Fred played DM at Shaktar ( Won the league best player as a CM) and Brazil national team. Mctonimay is a CM at Man utd but DM at Scotland national team due to better Scottish CM Fred (DM) had a better attacking/Team play than Mc tominay (CM)
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:54pm On May 12, 2020 |
Expert17: A DM will have more passes than the CM in a team that builds from the back. He receives the ball from the defenders and distributes the ball. So he is expected to make more passes. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:57pm On May 12, 2020 |
Leyqute: I agree. Fred is DM. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:59pm On May 12, 2020 |
Expert17: Good for you. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 10:42pm On May 12, 2020 |
Leyqute: He has Sha but Fred has played the DM role more than him and faired better.. He's only better than Fred offensively cos he moves higher than Fred while Fred covers the pitch more than.. Ahbeg Fred played really well for us this season. If continues like this and then polishes his other aspect of his game, I'll be darn happy. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 10:44pm On May 12, 2020 |
Leyqute:Brov, McTominay is a B2B midfielder, I mentioned that already. Fred is a better DM to McTominay.. He fairs better as B2B not as a DM. He misplaces passes often. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 10:46pm On May 12, 2020 |
Leyqute: Free that guy ahbeg |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:11am On May 13, 2020 |
Top striker. 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:00am On May 13, 2020 |
Herd mentality and the need to want to prove a non existent point is very much prevalent around these streets. Lol 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:55am On May 13, 2020 |
I dnt take them serious anymore. Fred won player of the season in Ukraine playing as CM/B2B, Stepaneko was the DM at Shakter, Mc tominay is the DM for Scotland, When Pogba and Fernandes are in the same line up, lets see who get to start between Fred and Mc tominay. 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Herbiedeen(m): 6:48am On May 13, 2020 |
Leyqute:Hope You know Kroos always have more pass than Casemiro Henderson>>>Fabinho It's only a possession based team that their DM normally have more passes than CM Guardiola's City, Sarri's Chelsea, Barcelona, PSG |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:05am On May 13, 2020 |
Ravioli: After investigating the lineups and heat maps as well as reviewing archival footage. My judgement is that this is the most accurate assessment of the situation. We play a double pivot of 4-2-3-1 which makes determining who is DM very difficult. Matic and anybody = Matic is DM and the other person is CM Pogba and anybody = Pogba is CM and the other person is DM Fred and McTominay = Pure double pivot essentially with Fred covering the left and McTominay covering the right. However in more than half of the games together heat map shows Fred more active in slightly more defensive positions while McTominay more active in slightly more offensive positions. In many of the games it is just too difficult to tell. In double pivot you usually have 2 CDMs and not the obvious division of labour you might see in a 4-3-3 with DM, CM, AM. This is why the same whoscored that said McTominay played DM 19 times and CM 3 times also says Fred played DM 21 and CM 6 times, and Pogba played DM 8 times and 2 sub appearances with 0 appearance as CM. Essentially saying all of them played mainly DM this season and CM very few times. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:28am On May 13, 2020 |
Mctominay DM style is similar to Casemiro, always bursting forward to join attack and recovering afterwards, .. Fred played CM for shakter, also pairing Casemiro In the midfield, when playing for Brazil(2015). |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:28am On May 13, 2020 |
afrodoc2:Exactly! Maybe Tom is meant to be a DM, but for United, we don't have a traditional DM unless Matic plays as he does not have the energy to take advanced positions during play and still fall back. From watching our matches, I already know that when both Fred and Tom plays, one takes the left side of the midfield and the other the right side. Both take turns to cover the center too when needed. That's why I don't see them as a Dm especially when you look at how Carrick and co play DM back then. Nowadays sef I feel position on the field is scam. I believe people should pay attention to roles more. Your position may say DM but during the match your role is not exactly that. Just look at them saying Pogba played DM |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 7:59am On May 13, 2020 |
afrodoc2: Thanks |
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