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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 10:43am On May 14, 2020
Theconglomerate:
It can be true if you look at a particular situation critically.
There are over 40 million alumajiri in the north that basically lick plates after others have eaten and beg for akara and sing up and down out there,so how hard can it be to see another 42 million people up there that don't see up to 400 naira to feed daily?
I agree with you. If he had localised it to a particular region outside southern part of the country, I may partially agree to that statistics.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Theconglomerate(m): 10:45am On May 14, 2020
IamR:

I agree with you. If he had localised it to a particular region outside southern part of the country, I may partially agree to that statistics.
Exactly.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AnthonyAnderson: 10:46am On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




There is a whole lot of difference between what you earned and your Networth.

After working for 20 years it is possible for someone who earned an average of N10 millon per annum for 20 years to have a higher Networth than another person who earned an average of N20 millon per annum - Very True


Besides I doubt if the number of the workforce in the petroleum sector is up to 20,000. It is about 1% of the worker force that is 200 that can get to the top management level.


From the current annual report of MTN Nigeria, it is just 4 top management executives that earned over N100 million per annum

Of course I am talking of networth - 100m/pa is referenced as at today.

A lot of these people have worked over 20years investing as the years go by. Also remember these companies have cooperatve clubs that make investing easy and risk free. When you profile those that have worked for more than 20 years and retired and those still in the system you get a very high number. Majority of these lots own assets in prime estates that have over time increased their networth.

For example, most of the properties around Chevron is owned by Chevron cooperative with retired and current staff owning massive assets in these properties. You can estimate the worth of this..Same with cooperatives of other companies.

There a lot of independent oil companies paying higher than IOCs in Nigeria and in operation more than 10yrs now. Eland, Seplat, even Afren before crisis.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by rationalhuman(m): 10:52am On May 14, 2020
Yes they are reaping benefits of their massive domestic industrial capability.
However you are wrong on salary part.
In my last semester in University, i was selected from campus (while i was studying in India) for Crompton Greaves (UAE) and despite enjoying good life i saved a good amount. Now I am working in Sterling and Wilson (Nairobi) for past 5 years.
I can assure you all of my peers are far less what i am getting in my wages.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:54am On May 14, 2020
AnthonyAnderson:


Of course I am talking of networth - 100m/pa is referenced as at today.

A lot of these people have worked over 20years investing as the years go by. Also remember these companies have cooperatve clubs that make investing easy and risk free. When you profile those that have worked for more than 20 years and retired and those still in the system you get a very high number. Majority of these lots own assets in prime estates that have over time increased their networth.

For example, most of the properties around Chevron is owned by Chevron cooperative with retired and current staff owning massive assets in these properties. You can estimate the worth of this..Same with cooperatives of other companies.

There a lot of independent oil companies paying higher than IOCs in Nigeria and in operation more than 10yrs now. Eland, Seplat, even Afren before crisis.




The CEO of Seplat earns over N600 million per annum, his dividends is higher than that because he is a founder CEO. Seplat is currently have issues with profitability they paid us a total dividend of 10cent per share for the last business year


What you have portrayed is true for about 10% of the workers, most can't sustain their lifestyle after retirements. A good number fall into the hands of scammers after retirement, because they want to make fast money.

The best thing is to start investing and keep investing through out our working careers

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:12am On May 14, 2020
rationalhuman:
Yes they are reaping benefits of their massive domestic industrial capability.
However you are wrong on salary part.
In my last semester in University, i was selected from campus (while i was studying in India) for Crompton Greaves (UAE) and despite enjoying good life i saved a good amount. Now I am working in Sterling and Wilson (Nairobi) for past 5 years.
I can assure you all of my peers are far less what i am getting in my wages.




Are you a Kenyan?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 11:19am On May 14, 2020
Ugmama:


Well, you may not believe it.

Hope you will believe that 70% of Nigerians are poor.

82million people in Nigeria can't boost of 1usd per day
are we now using USD to gauge poverty?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Alaska90(m): 11:22am On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




Are you a Kenyan?


Hello Mr emmanuelewumi,

Please you have not answered my question on your top ten pick Nigeria stocks.

Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:27am On May 14, 2020
Alaska90:



Hello Mr emmanuelewumi,

Please you have not answered my question on your top ten pick Nigeria stocks.

Thanks


I am sorry, I don't recommend shares.


Although I am currently buying United Capital, Zenith, FBN, Dangote sugar.


I want the price of Airtel Africa to come down a bit, they paid us a total dividend of 6 cent last business year


We have a thread for stock market investment, which you can visit

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:30am On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



The CEO of Seplat earns over N600 million per annum, his dividends is higher than that because he is a founder CEO. Seplat is currently have issues with profitability they paid us a total dividend of 10cent per share for the last business year


What you have portrayed is true for about 10% of the workers, most can't sustain their lifestyle after retirements. A good number fall into the hands of scammers after retirement, because they want to make fast money.

The best thing is to start investing and keep investing through out our working careers


The CEO of Seplat has 74 million shares, earning a total dividend of 10cent per share is equivalent to a total dividend of $7.4 million or about N2.4 billion in a year.


Life is good for these guys

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Alaska90(m): 11:44am On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



I am sorry, I don't recommend shares.


Although I am currently buying United Capital, Zenith, FBN, Dangote sugar.


I want the price of Airtel Africa to come down a bit, they paid us a total dividend of 6 cent last business year


We have a thread for stock market investment, which you can visit


Thanks

But what do you think the price for Airtel Africa should be to enter considering that is at lowest for a year now ? ( N298.90 now)
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by abraolas1: 11:45am On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



I am sorry, I don't recommend shares.


Although I am currently buying United Capital, Zenith, FBN, Dangote sugar.


I want the price of Airtel Africa to come down a bit, they paid us a total dividend of 6 cent last business year


We have a thread for stock market investment, which you can visit

tactically answering your questions....... Big Up Boss

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:47am On May 14, 2020
Alaska90:



Thanks

But what do you think the price for Airtel Africa should be to enter considering that is at lowest for a year now ? ( N298.90 now)




Made earning per share of 10 cent, that is about N36 per share.

Telecom business is not affected by the current recession, a lot of us are currently working from home, those of us who frequent Nairaland are equally contributing to their revenue.

I pray the price comes down N260.00.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by rationalhuman(m): 2:00pm On May 14, 2020
yes
emmanuelewumi:




Are you a Kenyan?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 2:02pm On May 14, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
i think is even less...

me too, far less......first ask urself if u have 400m, then think about ur friends....does anyone own that much then the area where u live grin grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:07pm On May 14, 2020
[quote author=zamirikpo post=89539403]

me too, far less......first ask urself if u have 400m, then think about ur friends....does anyone own that much then the area where u live grin grin[/quote) a big importer might not have 250m na over draft they asist.....must rich Nigerians are not liquid ...they have assets that increase overtime ...example the owner of sherrif plaza abuja bought the land in 1982 ..started building gradually , collected rents in advance complete the Building now worth over 1 bn

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 2:14pm On May 14, 2020
[quote author=chigo4u post=89532078]
In a country of 200m people and above, it’s more or less like 10000 naira.. lol.

Difficult to believe only 10000 Nigerians are worth $1m especially when you consider the overpriced cost of real estate in Nigeria..
[quote author=chigo4u post=89532078]

believe it bros, shey in lagos we have banana island and then we have the eko atlantic city......correct me if we have a bigger estate in lagos.

how many people live or own houses in banana island,? I was at eko atlantic last year, just about 4skyscrappers or 5...….the rest empty land. how big sef even if its all inhabited

besides oil worker,(the main staff ooh), politicians and Igbo business boys where else will u see 400m.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:21pm On May 14, 2020
[quote author=zamirikpo post=89539788][/quote] na political patronage billionaires plenty pass for Nigeria with their cooperate criminals ....
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:22pm On May 14, 2020
Seplat that is paying the ceo 600 million is under a heavy debt burden
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 2:34pm On May 14, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Seplat that is paying the ceo 600 million is under a heavy debt burden


They don't have a negative shareholders fund. The they a positive shareholders fund of almost N600 billion.

You get this by subtracting all the debts of the company from the assets of the company.


Still paid a total dividend of $60 million or about N22 billion for the last business year
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:49pm On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



They don't have a negative shareholders fund. The they a positive shareholders fund of almost N600 billion.

You get this by subtracting all the debts of the company from the assets of the company.


Still paid a total dividend of $60 million or about N22 billion for the last business year
we supply Ago to some of their offshore and onshore location ...to pay na wahala .them and Npdc almost bankrupted our firm .... ( 700-1m) litres monthly

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 2:52pm On May 14, 2020
[quote author=ahiboilandgas post=89541042][/quote]



This doesn't negate the fact that the Oil and Gas sector is in big trouble between now and early next year.

Ability to remain profitable is currently threatened due to weak demands and the reduced prices of the commodity
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 2:55pm On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




This doesn't negate the fact that the Oil and Gas sector is in big trouble between now and early next year
very big ...the down stream profit will decline by 80 percent if pms prices is deregulated we are in trouble
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:03pm On May 14, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
very big ...the down stream profit will decline by 80 percent if pms prices is deregulated we are in trouble


The upstream sector is also in trouble, most of them can only breakeven at $30 per barrel. Nigeria is also in a big trouble.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Pascopele: 3:14pm On May 14, 2020
rationalhuman:
yes
Lol! Do you speak skiswahili
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 3:16pm On May 14, 2020
Hello egbon, kindly explain this investments. I got the offer from fbnquest. Like how much will I get at the end of the tenure, and does it worth it. Thanks

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:21pm On May 14, 2020
Akin3891:
Hello egbon, kindly explain this investments. I got the offer from fbnquest. Like how much will I get at the end of the tenure, and does it worth it. Thanks



How much are you investing?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:23pm On May 14, 2020
It is a bond that is sold in the secondary market at a premium.

You will get about 84k every year. 42k every 6 months

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:25pm On May 14, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
It is a bond that is sold in the secondary market at a premium.

You will get about 84k every year. 42k every 6 months




Assuming you bought in the primary market, you would have gotten 127k, that is 63.5k every 6 months

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Pascopele: 3:48pm On May 14, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
we supply Ago to some of their offshore and onshore location ...to pay na wahala .them and Npdc almost bankrupted our firm .... ( 700-1m) litres monthly
Seplat mtcheeew. Nigerian business killing Nigeria business. Seplat have many suppliers they are indebted to.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Hallenjay: 3:49pm On May 14, 2020
otomatic:


All banks. The rates are uniform as stipulated by the CBN's guide to bank charges. However, some may have specialized savings products, like the former Diamond bank' high interest deposit account, that will give slightly higher rates. But the rate I quoted is for a normal savings account.
okay,I will do the maths. Thanks u
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Paulfroshman: 3:56pm On May 14, 2020
I need investment advice from the bosses in the house. I'm planning to invest with a real estate company (zylushomes), the vendor is (Oga For Property). They have estates in ibeju lekki just like revolution plus property. Their ROI Is 30% and one can invest for as many years as one wants. The company has been in operation for 3years.


Stated above is all I have gathered about the company and I have also visited their office in lekki. The estates serves as security for investment.

Is there anyone that has invested with such company, experiences, any red flag to look out for. I will appreciate the opinion of everyone. Thanks in anticipation

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