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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 1:26am On May 16, 2020 |
That’s why I just said “it is well”, before someone will remind me of how I never seen a white person before. Nigerians are pure hypocrites and that’s why we’re stagnant. Imagine boldly saying you will hire a white person over a black? and what are the reasons behind it?? Nothing reasonable smh. @Hosey thanks for this write up hosey: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Mobilipia(f): 1:42am On May 16, 2020 |
STENON:No matter how hard you try these so called white people will never see you as equal to them, be proud of your race my dear. Be humble 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by ridboy94(m): 2:52am On May 16, 2020 |
Greetings to everyone. I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. If I have a relative in the U.K, maybe an uncle or aunt . Is there a way I can relocate permanently to the U.K with the person’s help. Maybe an invite or something. What’s the suitable visa to apply for? I will be earnestly waiting for your invaluable replies. By the way, I studied chemistry education and won’t mind furthering my studies if I can get there. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 3:24am On May 16, 2020 |
ridboy94:No you can't. If it were to be in USA, they can file for you. Although, Trump has just changed this policy for Nigerians. Nigerians can no longer benefit from migrant visa. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Dwebb55: 3:35am On May 16, 2020 |
Skymoore1004: The Scottish people are very warm and welcoming, even more than the Brits! While at Aberdeen University, there were plenty of student jobs on hand. The Scots are not racist(except maybe to those from England). However, the cost of living is quite high as it is an Oil and Gas town. This is about the aspect that I would consider as a down side for students. I still have fond memories of Aberdeen and it will always be home for me! |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Dwebb55: 3:54am On May 16, 2020 |
Skymoore1004: You do know you are a Nigerian as well and you have described yourself as a hypocrite! My point is, no one race is all bad nor all good! Let's just try to see the good in others. It's funny how you seem to be doing what you accused the other writer of doing. We should learn to criticise constructively. We should also realise that we are products of the experiences we've shared and as such might be looking at the same thing from 2 different angles and perspectives. Horsey made some good points while Stenon also made some good points as well 10 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by ridboy94(m): 4:13am On May 16, 2020 |
hosey: Ooops. I guess I’ll take the student route. Thank you |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Cyberknight: 4:39am On May 16, 2020 |
Tobexin: I agree with you when you say Nigerians can be lousy people to know, they generally export their stupid social attitudes when they go abroad, and I too try to avoid them, but I have to say that you are very very wrong when you say Africans have an inferiority complex or that they are responsible for the treatment being meted out to them. That means you think the white man is an angel. In everything, don't be quick to issue blanket denunciations, always interrogate matters further. Institutional and official racism is a thing - don't take my word for it, look into it. Read. Look into the history of the place where you find yourself. And it is well documented that the psychological effects of racism and discrimination are deep and lasting when you face it for years and years, being told that and treated as if you were inferior, it does do something to you inside, if you are not very strong and resilient, something that cannot be said of everyone. The complex or mindset you say many Africans have is a coping one, and not inferiority. Perhaps you are not aware that while the UK is a much better place to live now, in the 60s through the 80s the racism there was at or way beyond east European levels. I lived in the UK as a child from 76 - 81, when the National Front was at its worst, and we experienced the 81 riots. The white man's worldview that you talk about is simply the feeling that the black man should keep his place and while things have improved a whole lot since the 80s, the psychological and physical assault on the black man still continues. It is no mistake that the main victims of the Windrush scandal and the whole hostile environment rubbish were our west Indian brethren - some long-term white Commonwealth and east Asian residents were also in the same situation, but as a report shows, almost 80 percent of them were treated with more official understanding and flexibility than the west Indians were, including some with criminal records. While virtually every black person who fell into the net was either deported, destititued or otherwise harassed. If you were a long-term African resident in the UK, what would that do to your mental self-image knowing that you were officially subject to this sort of blatant discrimination? Again, I have travelled to some European countries and I will definitely say that Africans in the UK are in a much better position than in many European countries (Germany comes to mind here). More people are better educated and are more able to push back against forms of discrimination and so forth (which doesn't necessarily reduce it though). More and more people are taking up higher profile roles and the glass ceiling (it is there, make no mistake about that) is gradually being shifted, but the struggle is real. People fought long and hard for us to be able to enjoy the relative opportunity the UK offers today and those of us who have luckily not experienced the lack of opportunity, the exploitation and the occasional degradation that others have had to live through or put up with should not judge everyone by the same standard. 12 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by gsk4reality: 7:33am On May 16, 2020 |
Ibuske: Can someone with Bsc in Engineering go for Masters in Social work? |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 7:54am On May 16, 2020 |
True about the institutional racism though I've experienced racism just 3ce - 2ce on the road and 1ce at work. But it's worthy to note that racism in any form is driven by racist individuals and not all individuals are racist; I have some amazing white and black people as friends and I also know some horrible white and black people as well. Also racism in the US is more openly expressed than in the UK. I've seen some black racist people too so it cuts both ways. I remember being blamed for something that happened at work even though I wasn't in the area where it happened for months (I was moved elsewhere). The white lady that used to work with me in the area wasn't penalized and the organisation waited till she left before raising the issue and trying to penalize me for it. I kicked against it, presented valid evidence and requested an investigation even though they tried so hard to pin it on me but they had to let it go when they couldn't provide evidence (including CCTV) that I was indeed in that area. They admitted that I was indeed one of their most committed staff and that they couldn't dispute that. After then, I noticed a newfound respect from them and they'd ask my opinion on things because they realized that I dot the Is and cross the Ts. Cyberknight: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 8:14am On May 16, 2020 |
Nigerians that practice Tribalism are complaining of Racism is God not wonderful? Let me face my front abeg, some places in Nigeria won't accept you if you're from another tribe even jobs, schools even house. There are places in Nigeria when you tell them that you not igbo, hausa or yoruba the way they will look down on you, you go dey wonder if you are a Nigerian. Some will tell it to your face that na only Igbo, yoruba and hausa they know. Inside this Nigeria that they will see you wearing NYSC uniform they will still be speaking their language and they know you are not from their place. When you tell them (Nigerians) that you are not from there they get angry, they won't even explain to you. They will call you rude and hater of their language. You people will now go to the abroad and be forming like say not tribalism is dangerous than racism at least you see their citizens are trying to correct you. Some of you complaining that whites are racist are big Tribalist here in Nigeria. 11 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Cyberknight: 8:37am On May 16, 2020 |
I see it didn't take too long for the "Oh, some Nigerians practice tribalism, so what's wrong with them being subjected to racism" argument to come up. Both tribalism and racism are WRONG. No-one is speaking for any of them. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 8:43am On May 16, 2020 |
You people haven't addressed tribalism but people that are giving you jobs, house even marriage should work on themselves abi? If you don't know tribalism is worse than rasicm. Some of you wailing over racism still go to the abroad and practice your tribalism over your fellow Nigerians. LMFAO!!!! Some of you here if you had the opportunity you will type in your language on this thread so others don't get the info Yes Both Tribalism and Rasicim is wrong but how many of you have addressed the one going on in you country? Please raise your hand lets see 4 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Cyberknight: 8:46am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: Of course not all individuals are racist, no-one said that. Simply put, the playing field in the UK (and in lots of other places too) is not level due to institutional and covert racism. The colour of one's skin has an effect on aspects of one's life there. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 8:54am On May 16, 2020 |
I didn't say that anyone said so. I just didn't want anyone reading a different meaning into my comment since I was sharing my experience. Not everyone experiences it but it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, some experience it in subtle terms while some others experience it in full. The fact still remains that racists drive institutionalized racism and as long as racists exist, it will take ages to change. Cyberknight: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 9:00am On May 16, 2020 |
I understand where you're coming from but please refrain from using one to justify the other. Neither of them is worse than the other, it just hits different; people should only speak on what they've experienced and not on some assumptions. That someone gives you something doesn't make some of their actions right. No one here is obliged to tell you what they've done to eradicate tribalism, this is a discourse on racism and as you'd have gathered, not everyone has the same experience with it. We know that tribalism also exists and no one is disputing that; it's left to everyone to treat others exactly how they wanna be treated. And the eradication of tribalism, like racism will take ages to attain because of the existence of tribalists. Aprokodaughter: 2 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 9:08am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: Nobody is using one to justify the other. But Nigerians should practice what they preach. You can't be telling people what they should do with their country when your own country is doing exactly the same thing to its fellow citizens. If they try to correct you then take it. If they don't want to gist with you, you mind your business is that simple. Do your work and go home. It is not that hard. Even in Nigeria some Nigerians (even the educated ones) pretend they can't get what their fellow country man is saying. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 9:14am On May 16, 2020 |
Where did this one wake up from? Leave me abeg Dwebb55: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 9:36am On May 16, 2020 |
That was what I read from your statement. You just made a general statement on Nigerians not practicing what they preach; this isn't right because you haven't met all Nigerians to know that all of them don't practice what they preach. This is also the same with people making a general statement concerning racism about other races; something you were against as read from your comments and your defense of other races. If you, as a Nigerian, aren't practicing what you preach, it doesn't mean that others aren't doing the same. The fact that someone else is doing wrong doesn't mean that you shouldn't address the wrong that someone has done to you. When you dot your Is and cross your Ts, it doesn't mean you can't get hit with racism or tribalism and at that point, it isn't correction as you've said. Don't discount other people's experiences to push your narrative; there's room for everyone's experiences. Aprokodaughter: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 9:45am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: I said some Nigerians in all my comments. Don't twist them. Its you and some other people that concluded that Scotland and some UK regions are racist. When you know that not all whites are racist just like some Nigerians are tribalistic in nature. Yes Nigerians have not addressed tribalism in their own country. The local news, social media says it all. All I am saying we should practice what we preach. There are places in Nigeria that they will never see certain Nigerians as equal. Some Nigerians don't get promoted in their jobs in Nigeria because of their tribe. How many times has it been addressed? If you can't mention them then leave it so we don't detrail the thread. 2 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Ahadeyhola: 9:50am On May 16, 2020 |
Will school open for September? Is it advisable to pay the part payment? Is UK embassy operating? |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 9:55am On May 16, 2020 |
Go back and read your comment that I responded to and check where you said that Nigerians don't practice what they preach. I even bolded the part of your comment in my response to you. If you read my comments again, you'd see where I said that racism is pushed by racists and but not everyone is a racist because just as we have the very horrible white or black people, we also have the very nice ones. I've met black and whites people who are extremely racist as well as those who aren't. It's because of comments like yours (which might assume that stating my experience as a blanket statement on racism) that I actually included that part as I explained to @cyberknight Aprokodaughter: 2 Likes
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 10:00am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: Yes Nigerians don't practice what they preach. Since they have not addressed tribalism. The people that mentioned that UK citizens are not intelligent did you correct them? Yes or No No need to detail the thread. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 10:09am On May 16, 2020 |
No one is derailing the thread and I haven't seen where someone said UK citizens are unintelligent; intelligence isn't racial, it's individual. The fact that I didn't even comment on that, if true, doesn't mean I can't comment on another. Also, the fact that you as an individual haven't addressed tribalism doesn't mean that other people aren't; you can only speak for yourself. Always remember not to generalize when making statements as generalizations are oftentimes misleading. My advice for anyone on this thread would be to smartly do their best in everything that they do such that their work/integrity will speak for them always and not stick with generalisations because one person's experience is not always a one case fits all situations. At this point, I rest my case. Aprokodaughter: 2 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 10:13am On May 16, 2020 |
Ahadeyhola: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 10:13am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: You did not see it okay, good, you and others need to stop generalizing UK citizens as racists and not intelligent 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 10:14am On May 16, 2020 |
Can you just take a breath, go back to read my comments and point out where I said that all UK citizens are racists? It seems that you're reading from an imaginary comment that I wrote. Edit: I wouldn't be dignifying you with further responses in the absence of this. Aprokodaughter: 2 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 10:18am On May 16, 2020 |
mimilyrics: You are the one that needs to take a deep breath. Stop derailing the thread, you are the one taking screenshots nah. Mentioning monikers LMFAO!!!! I said its okay relax. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 10:20am On May 16, 2020 |
I don’t know how someone can decide to be countering with another person named Aproko. Do you know the meaning of the name? E don do o , Everyone go dey alright las las Let’s close the case already ladies mimilyrics: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 10:23am On May 16, 2020 |
You people just like to argue? You can't stop racism. Even footballers earning thousands per week face racist fans. You learn to deal with it. 5 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Ahadeyhola: 10:31am On May 16, 2020 |
Thanks... But this one that that embassy is not opening visa process will be too much when they open [quote author=Skymoore1004 post=89604918][/quote] |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Ahadeyhola: 10:31am On May 16, 2020 |
Thanks... But this one that that embassy is not opening visa process will be too much when they open [quote author=Skymoore1004 post=89604918][/quote] |
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