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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by LaaJiblik: 12:02pm On May 17, 2020
STENON:
UK is really strict when it comes to some rules.
1. 2017 Myself and a Friend applied for same scholarship, same course and same university in Scotland.

GPA... Requirements was first class, Yes, we both met the requirement and My GPA was higher than his own.

Work experience... We both worked at same place and at same time. Same HOD wrote reference letter for us.

SOP : Both wrote different things but with the same ideas.


Scholarship essays: We both proofread for ourselves.

English language requirement : We submitted same WAEC results. Towards the end, The school requested for IELTS, he registered and wrote IELTS, I said No, because Nigeria is known as an English speaking country and I didn't even have money for it.

After IELTS , he sent his results....
One month later he was shortlisted for the scholarship and now done with MSc fully funded scholarship in UK.

Again, He applied for PhD last year for a fully funded studentship again and he got it. According to him, he said the IELTS was an extra factor for him because he was competing with people of same profiles.


2. Another Nigerian friend applied for MSc nursing at GCU for September 2020. The admission was conditional with IELTS and school fees is £13,500, I said NO, she should just upload her WAEC results with B grade in English, but the school rejected it. She collected another letter from her university stating that she was taught in English language, GCU still rejected it. She applied for same course at Dundee, Dundee gave her admission but the course was for 3 years meaning she has to pay £18,150 tuition fees for 3 years , but GCU is just 2 years for MSc nursing but conditional on IELTS.

Please kindly choose the best option for her.




Recalcitrant people would rather choose to advice candidates that IELTS is waste of money.
They will not even leave it at the fact that other people have already answered the question clearly and concisely. They would rather prefer to show their ‘intelligence’ by suggesting that candidates choose other schools or courses which do not require IELTS.

Yesterday, I asked a question on this forum to gauge why some people seem to have a morbid fear of IELTS. I wanted to get a fair idea, then offer my perspective. Two or three posts later, someone asked a specific question about IELTS. The person received an appropriate answer from another member. But someone else ignored that 1st answer and decided to push through his own ‘agenda‘ of saying the IELTS exams is useless (without recourse to peculiarities of the OP).


In addition to your two ‘case studies’ above, I too personally know someone who went to the UK for an MSc. The uni required IELTS. They refused to write, called the uni all sort of names. They applied to another Uni (same course) and somehow managed to ‘pressure ‘ the Uni into accepting NECO.
Well, they finished the MSc, spent £500 to register with HCPC. Spent a lot more money to have certificates verified in Nigeria.
Final hurdle: HCPC required IELTS (which they didn’t have). It was too late to register and write as visa was running out. Guess who is back in Portharcourt? Hustling hard and wishing they had written IELTS ?

Bottom line: IELTS is not waste of money. Maximum you may spend is NGN 100k.
If anyone were to ask me whether IELTS is mandatory or not for UK admission, I would simply say:
It depends on the course and on the school too. Best person(s) to answer is your prospective school.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by LaaJiblik: 12:13pm On May 17, 2020
Dear Prospective Student (from Nigeria),

I have seen several forumites coming here to ask for “A List if UK schools which does not Require IELTS”.

I would seriously recommend and suggest that IELTS (or any ENGLIsH proficiency test) should not be the major decider in your selection.

What is the point of running away from the IELTS-requiring schools/ courses and going for the NECO/WASSCE-requiring ones, only to end up with (what they used to say in the UK) a Mickey Mouse Degree?

You want the ‘easy-way’ when it comes to admission. You get the admission. Finish the degree. You send 1000,000 CVs and no UK company invites you for an interview. No Tier-2 sponsor willing to issue you a CoS. Simply because you chose the ‘easy way out’ ab initio. Wetin you gain?

No ‘Pain’, No Gain.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mattfeuter(m): 12:28pm On May 17, 2020
LaaJiblik:
Dear Prospective Student (from Nigeria),

I have seen several forumites coming here to ask for “A List if UK schools which does not Require IELTS”.

I would seriously recommend and suggest that IELTS (or any ENGLIsH proficiency test) should not be the major decider in your selection.

What is the point of running away from the IELTS-requiring schools/ courses and going for the NECO/WASSCE-requiring ones, only to end up with (what they used to say in the UK) a Mickey Mouse Degree?

You want the ‘easy-way’ when it comes to admission. You get the admission. Finish the degree. You send 1000,000 CVs and no UK company invites you for an interview. No Tier-2 sponsor willing to issue you a CoS. Simply because you chose the ‘easy way out’ ab initio. Wetin you gain?

No ‘Pain’, No Gain.

He don do. Ielts is not by FORCE. Let people decide what’s best for them.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by STENON(f): 12:34pm On May 17, 2020
LaaJiblik:



Recalcitrant people would rather choose to advice candidates that IELTS is waste of money.
They will not even leave it at the fact that other people have already answered the question clearly and concisely. They would rather prefer to show their ‘intelligence’ by suggesting that candidates choose other schools or courses which do not require IELTS.

Yesterday, I asked a question on this forum to gauge why some people seem to have a morbid fear of IELTS. I wanted to get a fair idea, then offer my perspective. Two or three posts later, someone asked a specific question about IELTS. The person received an appropriate answer from another member. But someone else ignored that 1st answer and decided to push through his own ‘agenda‘ of saying the IELTS exams is useless (without recourse to peculiarities of the OP).


In addition to your two ‘case studies’ above, I too personally know someone who went to the UK for an MSc. The uni required IELTS. They refused to write, called the uni all sort of names. They applied to another Uni (same course) and somehow managed to ‘pressure ‘ the Uni into accepting NECO.
Well, they finished the MSc, spent £500 to register with HCPC. Spent a lot more money to have certificates verified in Nigeria.
Final hurdle: HCPC required IELTS (which they didn’t have). It was too late to register and write as visa was running out. Guess who is back in Portharcourt? Hustling hard and wishing they had written IELTS ?

Bottom line: IELTS is not waste of money. Maximum you may spend is NGN 100k.
If anyone were to ask me whether IELTS is mandatory or not for UK admission, I would simply say:
It depends on the course and on the school too. Best person(s) to answer is your prospective school.
Based on what you just said now... A quick look at Dundee MSc nursing has no pre-registration with NMC as been offered by GCU.
Better to go with the right advice that has long term advantage , than because of money, go for the wrong path with no long or short term benefit.

Another scenario apart from this IELTS is for any school requesting for UKNARIC. Please do not run away from them, kindly do it as this is an opportunity to further register with some Professional Bodies in UK.
Without UKNARIC, you can not be registered to practice as a Professional in UK.


**note : I am not referring to Professional bodies like APM, PMI, or others.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by STENON(f): 12:42pm On May 17, 2020
Aprokodaughter:



In my opinion she should go to GCU, its better to pay for ielts exams or the school english test exam except she has the money to pay for the 3 years.

GCU was my first choice o cry they have refused to answer me since February decided to firm another school in England. cry cry
GCU is very good based on some news I read about them. Maybe you should re-email them back because they are still offering admission during this lockdown.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 12:42pm On May 17, 2020
So you used another moniker to ask a question just to derail the thread?


Are you for real

Abi I am did not read it well. grin you guys are funny.


Like you created another moniker? Hmm... shocked wawu

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Jayvallia: 12:46pm On May 17, 2020
Someone will come here expecting to read something meaningful. Mad people will be huffing and puffing about nonsense. Shior

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Mikeval001: 12:55pm On May 17, 2020
Seriously I feel some people just want to talk just for the sake of it. I for one understood what the person was trying to say when he/she said "it's a waste of money",the person never meant that the exam is useless instead the person was trying to say there are other easier alternatives. This should be so easy to understand.

Make we sha dey observe



Aprokodaughter:



Madam what is your argument since you Want to detail the thread lets go.

Waste of money in this situation literally means its expensive and there are other alternatives. Haba nah you should understand these things.


Somebody shouldn't be explaining this to you nah please.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 1:01pm On May 17, 2020
Who are you referring to? No one created a new account here
Aprokodaughter:
So you used another moniker to ask a question just to derail the thread?

Are you for real

Abi I am did not read it well. grin you guys are funny.


Like you created another moniker? Hmm... shocked wawu
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:02pm On May 17, 2020
POP2CECI:
Good morning Fam,

I’m looking forward to applying for M.Sc in Data Science/Data Analytics in UK for September 2020 session. Kindly assist with universities with full tuition waiver for First class graduates. From my research I got to know about Sheffield Hallam University with 50% tuition waiver and University of Westminster with full tuition waiver.

But your experience will go a long way to get more schools. Kindly assist fam.

Mehn since you have first class, there are so many scholarship opportunities you can obtain that covers full fee and stipends. 2.1 graduates can also benefit from these scholarships same as yours.

But most scholarships for 2020 has closed. And the above scholarships are competitive. You can try applying for the above scholarships as it is still on. Meet and exceed the stated scholarship criteria.

Having First class only will not make you win scholarships. It is not uncommon for 2.1 graduates to gain scholarship and win before first class. Things like work experience, volunteerism and family background is being considered apart from academic excellence. Also note the impact the study will make to you individually and home country, Nigeria. Dont write you plan to work and stay in the UK. Write a succint essay and have strong reccomendation letters from notable Professors.

Other scholarships you could have benefit from are University of Nottingham (https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/pgstudy/funding/developing-solutions-masters-scholarship) and University of Glasgow (https://www.gla.ac.uk/scholarships/universityofglasgowafricanexcellencefeewaiver/) also give full scholarships but these has closed.

Other scholarship opportunities prospective candidates (First class and 2.1) may try out for next year are: Commonwealth Nominated, Commonwealth Shared, Chevening, PTDF, NDDC (not out for this year) , USA and Canada schools and many more.

CURRENT SCHOLARSHIP YOU CAN APPLY FOR ONLY FIRST CLASS ONLY

Education USA Scholarship
https://ng.usembassy.gov/education-culture/exchange-programs/opportunity-fund/

Deadline is May 31st.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 1:05pm On May 17, 2020
Hosey sef has keep quiet about the whole thing. Why are you people still dragging on it?

It’s like it’s only Oga Justwise that can stop this.

Cc:Justwise assist please

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:17pm On May 17, 2020
Skymoore1004:
Who are you referring to? No one created a new account here

Read the first paragraph of her last post then go back to the moniker that asked for people's views on ielts.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by liliberth: 1:20pm On May 17, 2020
STENON:
Based on what you just said now... A quick look at Dundee MSc nursing has no pre-registration with NMC as been offered by GCU.
Better to go with the right advice that has long term advantage , than because of money, go for the wrong path with no long or short term benefit.

Another scenario apart from this IELTS is for any school requesting for UKNARIC. Please do not run away from them, kindly do it as this is an opportunity to further register with some Professional Bodies in UK.
Without UKNARIC, you can not be registered to practice as a Professional in UK.


**note : I am not referring to Professional bodies like APM, PMI, or others.


Wahoo. Thanks didnt even know that dundee didnt have the pre registration process. Yet the tuition fees is so high.

@apokrodaughter. Concerning GCU I applied last year for a course they replied me late and I wasnt able to meet up. I thought that was my only option so I kept mailing back and forth till this pandemic they replied me. With all the stress sef I dont even think I will want them again.

If you want them follow up with the admission and they have a place where you can request for calls and follow up.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:24pm On May 17, 2020
STENON:
GCU is very good based on some news I read about them. Maybe you should re-email them back because they are still offering admission during this lockdown.

Yes o good reviews. I mailed them like three weeks ago since I was meant to have an interview with them May 20th. They actually responded that my application is still with the department.

Will have to wait next month which I can't wait again cry decided to firm DMU. So I can focus on other things like school fees and other stuff just incase VAC opens this month or next.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 1:29pm On May 17, 2020
No, she asked previously with the same account. Did not create another one to derail the thread.

You’re misunderstanding but it’s okay.
All cool now
Aprokodaughter:


Read the first paragraph of her last post then go back to the moniker that asked for people's views on ielts.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:33pm On May 17, 2020
liliberth:



Wahoo. Thanks didnt even know that dundee didnt have the pre registration process. Yet the tuition fees is so high.

@apokrodaughter. Concerning GCU I applied last year for a course they replied me late and I wasnt able to meet up. I thought that was my only option so I kept mailing back and forth till this pandemic they replied me. With all the stress sef I dont even think I will want them again.

If you want them follow up with the admission and they have a place where you can request for calls and follow up.

Can imagine...I really wanted to go there. I saw like applicants from 5 years compliaining on Studentsroom website that GCU don't respond on time. Till date applicants are still complaining of the same issue.

I sent them a mail like 3 weeks ago they responded to my mail that my application is still with the department.

I have already lost interest decided to accept DMU offer I can't come and kill myself lols.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:35pm On May 17, 2020
Skymoore1004:
No, she asked previously with the same account. Did not create another one to derail the thread.

You’re misunderstanding but it’s okay.
All cool now


Oh okay my heart cut cheesy before all these ranting was confusing me before. Thank you

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Skymoore1004: 1:36pm On May 17, 2020
grin cool wink
Aprokodaughter:



Oh okay my heart cut cheesy before all these ranting was confusing me before. Thank you
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mamacajah: 1:47pm On May 17, 2020
So how does the UK NARIC thing work? is it like the ECA process for Canada? Could someone throw some light on this please? Thanks!
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by STENON(f): 1:49pm On May 17, 2020
Aprokodaughter:


Yes o good reviews. I mailed them like three weeks ago since I was meant to have an interview with them May 20th. They actually responded that my application is still with the department.

Will have to wait next month which I can't wait again cry decided to firm DMU. So I can focus on other things like school fees and other stuff just incase VAC opens this month or next.
I guess some courses have very high applications and so it's taking time to sort things out.

Sometimes, its easier and faster to get admission for courses like Project/quality management, than some core science courses.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by STENON(f): 1:53pm On May 17, 2020
mamacajah:
So how does the UK NARIC thing work? is it like the ECA process for Canada? Could someone throw some light on this please? Thanks!
UK NARIC is the designated United Kingdom national agency for the recognition and comparison of international qualifications and skills. It performs this official function on behalf of the UK Government.

https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/

I did UKNARIC statement of comparability to compare my Nigeria Teaching licence and all my certificates with UK standard.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 1:53pm On May 17, 2020
STENON:
I guess some courses have very high applications and so it's taking time to sort things out.

Sometimes, its easier and faster to get admission for courses like Project/quality management, than some core science courses.


I guess so, media courses are competitive especially journalism. DMU offered me PR and Advertising.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 1:53pm On May 17, 2020
UK NARIC can be compared to WES in the US/Canada. Yes, it's similar to the ECA process for Canada. They provide a translation/evaluation/comparison of your documents within the UK context.
Check this link for more details

https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/Individuals/How%20to%20Apply.aspx

mamacajah:
So how does the UK NARIC thing work? is it like the ECA process for Canada? Could someone throw some light on this please? Thanks!

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by pretty1986: 2:01pm On May 17, 2020
Skymoore1004:
No, she asked previously with the same account. Did not create another one to derail the thread.

You’re misunderstanding but it’s okay.
All cool now
good afternoon, pls all these interview for admission into some universities in UK,is it through phone call or Skype?.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 2:04pm On May 17, 2020
Skype but in some cases, if network is crappy, telephone.
pretty1986:
good afternoon, pls all these interview for admission into some universities in UK,is it through phone call or Skype?.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by pretty1986: 2:04pm On May 17, 2020
Aprokodaughter:



I guess so, media courses are competitive especially journalism. DMU offered me PR and Advertising.
pls dear,interview for admission that some universities in UK normally conducts for applicants before they are admitted, is it through Phone call or Skype?. thanks.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by pretty1986: 2:06pm On May 17, 2020
mimilyrics:
Skype but in some cases, if network is crappy, telephone.
thanks,can I download Skype in my smart phone?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 2:09pm On May 17, 2020
pretty1986:
pls dear,interview for admission that some universities in UK normally conducts for applicants before they are admitted, is it through Phone call or Skype?. thanks.


The ones I have done:
DMU: Zoom
Chester: they sent me questions to answer through a recorded video.
Second interview(since they canceled the first course I applied for) this week will be through skype.


They will tell which medium they will use for the interview. For instance the I could not compete the DMU interview due to Nigerian network so I had to fix a new date and call them through a whatsapp video call.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 2:09pm On May 17, 2020
Yes. If your school will be using Skype, you can download from google play or apple app store depending on your phone brand.


pretty1986:
thanks,can I download Skype in my smart phone?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mamacajah: 2:11pm On May 17, 2020
mimilyrics:
UK NARIC can be compared to WES in the US/Canada. Yes, it's similar to the ECA process for Canada. They provide a translation/evaluation/comparison of your documents within the UK context.
Check this link for more details

https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/Individuals/How%20to%20Apply.aspx

Thanks for the response..I appreciate

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mamacajah: 2:12pm On May 17, 2020
STENON:
UK NARIC is the designated United Kingdom national agency for the recognition and comparison of international qualifications and skills. It performs this official function on behalf of the UK Government.

https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/

I did UKNARIC statement of comparability to compare my Nigeria Teaching licence and all my certificates with UK standard.

Thanks for responding. I do appreciate.

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