I have a perfect plan that will grant us access to the sea, and develop a viable port, but it involves an igbo president to make it happen.

We need Nigeria for a lot

hammerP:



I find this remark very belittling and insulting.

Actually, we are throwing away our population in Nigeria, IPOB want to concentrate them on Igbo land.

With that population, no excuse going anywhere else.

People should be coming to us.

We can have several cities and market.

Seriously I used to have the beleief until I settled down to do an Indept research of everything. I repeat everything.

The only thing Biafra will give us is that we will become Biafran passport holders nothing more.

After Biafra comes I assure u chaos won't take time before it errupts, because our people would have found out that they have been lied to the whole time, that its not what they pictured.

I am telling u this take it from me, after Biafra comes there would be a mass expropriation of lands and it would then be redistributed.

This would lead to a lot of problems and Nigeria will make sure we are trapped inside Biafra as we face our problems since we said we wanted to leave.

The Biafran economy will be heavily dependent on the Nigerian economy, so much that at a particular time the Naira will become the currency in circulation while the Biafran currency is second.

I am telling u a full blown analysis.


Theres a particular information I dont want to relay here since its a public forum. But as igbo to Igbo I beg u quit the pursuit

hammerP:
THE FACT IS, IGBO WERE MORE THAN YORUBA BEFORE AND ARE STILL MORE THAN THEM TODAY.


IF THEY LIKE, LET THEM KEEP LOOKING FOR IGBOS THAT DENY, IT CHANGES NOTHING, WE ARE MORE THAN THEM.


NO AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT BUHARI GOV DATA CAN CHANGE THE FACTS ON GROUND.


IGBO IS THE MOST POPULOUS TRIBE IN NIGERIA TODAY.


NIGERIA BELONGS TO US.

And so what?

My Guy, all these dick measuring to what end?

Coldie:

Seriously I used to have the beleief until I settled down to do an Indept research of everything. I repeat everything.

The only thing Biafra will give us is that we will become Biafran passport holders nothing more.

After Biafra comes I assure u chaos won't take time before it errupts, because our people would have found out that they have been lied to the whole time, that its not what they pictured.

I am telling u this take it from me, after Biafra comes there would be a mass expropriation of lands and it would then be redistributed.

This would lead to a lot of problems and Nigeria will make sure we are trapped inside Biafra as we face our problems since we said we wanted to leave.

The Biafran economy will be heavily dependent on the Nigerian economy, so much that at a particular time the Naira will become the currency in circulation while the Biafran currency is second.

I am telling u a full blown analysis.


Theres a particular information I dont want to relay here since its a public forum. But as igbo to Igbo I beg u quit the pursuit

Listen, once Igbo leave there shall be no Nigeria.

No funds to run One Nigeria budget.

Biafra is leaving with that.

hammerP:


Listen, once Igbo leave their shall be no Nigeria.

No funds to run One Nigeria budget.

Biafra is leaving with that.

Explain to me how u got this analysis.



If with everything Nigeria has to offer our economy isn't that strong do u think it will change over night once Biafra comes, when all those benefits are no more?

Coldie:

Explain to me how u got this analysis

Go and read things fall apart and when the center can no longer hold.

Yoruba that we will like to datch the North, will most likely exit to Oduduwa.

The middle belt will start calling for independence from the North or fight war of independence with them.

The pillar holding Nigeria is Igbo, once that is gone, nothing is left.

Oil and gas money gone.

Look at Benin republic and Togo despite the fact that they are coastal countries, they are larger in land mass than Biafra they are SUFFERING in fact Benin republics economy is heavily dependent on Nigeria.

Just the border closure their economy suffered. Then imagine what will become in A Biafran scenario

hammerP:


Go and read things fall apart and when the center can no longer hold.

Yoruba that we will like to datch the North, will most likely exit to Oduduwa.

The middle belt will start calling for independence from the North or fight war of independence with them.

The pillar holding Nigeria is Igbo, once that is gone, nothing is left.

Oil and gas money gone.

What's your game?

Your business shouldn't be middle belt or Yoruba's your business should be Biafra. Leave them to fight their fight.

What if u are wrong, and once Biafra seceeds the Yoruba's refuse to...

I guess u will say they betrayed u the second time?

PVision2020:


Don't be intelligent by half....
The Census was a hoax and was summarily annulled.
Oya come up with with another propaganda from your IPOB Bureau of Statistics.
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-9354.html
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2686050?seq=1
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

It's not even possible for Hausa to have that population.
They are more larger than that

I came to this thread late

Coldie do u know that if Yoruba left Nigeria today, that Igbos will agree to stay with the North in One Nigeria?

Before the Lagos Protectorate was added to Nigeria, Igbos practically begged the North to stay in the newly amalgamated Nigeria. (southern and northern protectorate)

I stand to be corrected on the above by historians here.


Wat am saying is that Igbo are not scared of anybody in Nigeria.


Even the influx of Northerners to the South, if u notice the Igbos are calm about it whilst the SS and SW ARE FREAKING OUT.

Igbos go to the North to live and trade with Fulani, even buy house, land and property. Some even end up marrying them there.

Yoruba have fear and will not be able to stay without Igbos.

This is y Igbo are the pillars of this nation Nigeria.

PVision2020:


Don't be intelligent by half....
The Census was a hoax and was summarily annulled.
Oya come up with with another propaganda from your IPOB Bureau of Statistics.
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-9354.html
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2686050?seq=1
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

Don't disgrace your Afonja ancestor.

1952 Census was not annulled. The annulled census was the 1962 Census.
The 1952 Census is recognized as the last true Census in Nigeria.
Little wonder it retains Igbo superiority in numbers as seen in 1931 and 1921 census figures.
https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=BZfY6O8k3PsC&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=Was+1952+Nigerian+census+annulled?&source=bl&ots=yOpBhMtSr7&sig=ACfU3U3iqsbfyjUA_JuoHz9OU4xpFpImQg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjX9LDAr8jpAhWHnxQKHbANCxYQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=Was%201952%20Nigerian%20census%20annulled%3F&f=false

pazienza:
This is alledged to be the last fairly credible Census ever carried out in Nigeria, as the subsequent ones were marred with irregularities.
Though many still believe the British inflated the Northern figures in 1952, but there was never any contest over who was the most populous in Southern Nigeria.

You can compare the 1952 figures with the 1931 one:
https://www.nairaland.com/3400415/1931-population-figures-nigerian-ethnic

It's not possible for Hausas to have that population.

They are more larger than that.

The result is doctored

South West is the zone with the smallest population,imagine south east with Ibibio,ijaws put together....those fallen demons will never see peace with all this their fake statistics recently

I get am before no be property.

Igbos lost tens of thousands pre-1967 and between 2 and 3 million during the civil war.

No nation recovers from such human loss.

If you are in doubt, ask Russia @Pazienza

Enough of these empty chimp-like chest beating fits!

Seerade029:


It's not possible for Hausas to have that population.

They are more larger than that.

The result is doctored

Cry harder.
Maybe the 1931 and 1921 Census were doctored as well.
You think all Northern minorities that speak Hausa as second language are Hausas?

Igboid:


Cry harder.
Maybe the 1931 and 1921 Census were doctored as well.
You think all Northern minorities that speak Hausa as second language are Hausas?

Then why isn't the minorities ain't represented in your results

Or do we have ve only Hausas in the north?

Where are the Edos?

The Nupes?

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MuchAdo:
I get am before no be property.

Igbos lost tens of thousands pre-1967 and between 2 and 3 million during the civil war.

No nation recovers from such human loss.

If you are in doubt, ask Russia @Pazienza

Enough of these empty chimp-like chest beating fits!

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That 2 to 3 million Biafra war is not an excuse.


We lost far more to the transatlantic slave trade.

The point is Igbo had already established a massive population capable of multiplying quickly.

And one of our women after the Biafra war had at least 9 children.

It is recently that we cut it down to 4 or 5.


Even in your south west, if u check every state, Igbo are the second largest group.

MuchAdo:
I get am before no be property.

Igbos lost tens of thousands pre-1967 and between 2 and 3 million during the civil war.

No nation recovers from such human loss.

If you are in doubt, ask Russia @Pazienza

Enough of these empty chimp-like chest beating fits!

We lost millions in slave trade to Americas and recovered well.
We are Igbos. Our society is built to quickly regenerate lost population, we have Omenala in place to ensure that.
Moreover, not many Biafran adults died.
Biafran soldiers killed more Nigerian soldiers.
People that died in Biafra in millions were mainly children who died of starvation following the Nigerian starvation policy.

They were quickly replaced by their parents after the war.
If anything, Igbo population post civil war experienced a population boom!

Is Chukwu not wonderful?

Sunshineg5:
So why were your brothers crying that Awolowo didn't appoint igbos yesterday when Denis Osadebe made sure Western igbos had no other party apart from NCNC

Should Awolowo have gone to Manufacture igbos into his government?

Ijesha and some Yoruba clans were not also on Awolowo's ministerial list despite the fact that every Edo clan was represented.

where are my Edo brothers population nau?so they are not up to my village population back then.

Benevento:

Seems you're more interested in telling me about Igbos in Equi. Guinea.

Below is the map of African, can you tell me how Igbos got to Guinea? Considering Guinea is very far.

Are the Igbos in Equi.Guinea native?

Equatorial guinea was one of the country that supported Biafra during civil war
During that period igbos moved in mass
Same with Gabon
Please always read

Igboid:


We lost millions in slave trade to Americas and recovered well.
We are Igbos. Our society is built to quickly regenerate lost population, we have Omenala in place to ensure that.
Moreover, not many Biafran adults died.
Biafran soldiers killed more Nigerian soldiers.
People that died in Biafra in millions were mainly children who died of starvation following the Nigerian starvation policy.

They were quickly replaced by their parents after the war.
If anything, Igbo population post civil war experienced a population boom!

Is Chukwu not wonderful?

The babies, children and elderly mainly.

The adults recovered once the war ended and obviously made sure they replaced that which was stolen.

So many Igbo families had minimum of 9 children from 1 woman only.

I know so many of them.

This pazienza no get sense at all. Using 1952 census when he know very much that from 1967 to 1970 ibo population suffered a significant loss while Yoruba population has been steady. Ibo might be more then but not anymore.

Moneywomen17:
This pazienza no get sense at all. Using 1952 census when he know very much that from 1967 to 1970 ibo population suffered a significant loss while Yoruba population has been steady. Ibo might be more then but not anymore.

Go to your state, after you count yoruba, check the second most populous group.


It will certainly be Igbos.

hammerP:



Go to your state, after you count yoruba, check the second most populous group.


It will certainly be Igbos.

You guys don't travel.

The Hausas outnumbered you in SW - Lagos.

Pls prove me wrong.

Audio Travellers

hammerP:
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That 2 to 3 million Biafra war is not an excuse.


We lost far more to the transatlantic slave trade.

The point is Igbo had already established a massive population capable of multiplying quickly.

And one of our women after the Biafra war had at least 9 children.

It is recently that we cut it down to 4 or 5.


Even in your south west, if u check every state, Igbo are the second largest group.

If wishes were horses, Igbos will ride. Most tribes in the south lost their people to the slave trade. You have Yoruba all over the Caribbean, Brazil & Sierra Leone till tomorrow.


But as regards the civil war loss, it's so huge, Igbos can't recover from it hence recording the least population in the 2004 census.

It's similar to the Russians whose population has been stagnant over the years after losing 25million during WWII.

MuchAdo:


If wishes were horses, Igbos will ride. Most tribes in the south lost their people to the slave trade. You have Yoruba all over the Caribbean, Brazil & Sierra Leone till tomorrow.


But as regards the civil war loss, it's so huge, Igbos can't recover from it hence recording the least population in the 2004 census.

It's similar to the Russians whose population has been stagnant over the years after losing 25million during WWII.

we have igbos in Colombia, Brazil and Sierra LEONE TOO.


Even Liberia, so wat is your point again?

Coldie:

Its in our interest as igbos not to make the mistake of seceding, we will regret our actions

So it is in our interest as Igbos to remain part of the failed country called Nigeria which has become poverty capital of the world and home of terrorism in Africa?

pazienza:


Easily replaced immediately after the war by Chukwu.
We are blessed.

Do another independent ethnic census today, and Igbos would still top.
Your Genocide plans failed. Try again if you can.

I disagree

hammerP:


The babies, children and elderly mainly.

The adults recovered once the war ended and obviously made sure they replaced that which was stolen.

So many Igbo families had minimum of 9 children from 1 woman only.

I know so many of them.

Yes! The elderly died in large numbers

Feel like crying now.
Remember a story my mum told me of an old woman that refused to leave her home when Nigerian soldiers entered Nkpor and Ogidi fled.
Every member of the family begged "Nne" to come along, she refused saying she doesn't want to be liability to anyone.
They came back after the war and saw her bones in her bombed house.

Chai! These people dealt with us.

senatordave1:


I disagree

I don't expect you to agree.

hammerP:



we have igbos in Colombia, Brazil and Sierra LEONE TOO.


Even Liberia, so wat is your point again?

Those Igbos in those countries are migrants while Yorubas in those countries are indegines

Igboid:


We lost millions in slave trade to Americas and recovered well.
We are Igbos. Our society is built to quickly regenerate lost population, we have Omenala in place to ensure that.
Moreover, not many Biafran adults died.
Biafran soldiers killed more Nigerian soldiers.
People that died in Biafra in millions were mainly children who died of starvation following the Nigerian starvation policy.

They were quickly replaced by their parents after the war.
If anything, Igbo population post civil war experienced a population boom!

Is Chukwu not wonderful?

Self delusion is allowed.

However, the reality is that the south east is least populated based on the most recent census.