Bville02:
Gensteejay, Do you believe in the existence of ghosts and supernatural beings?

I think this is the easiest adventure one can use his hand to confirm..
It's just easy..

Just go to the mortuary and sleep over for 3 days.. if you no notice any presence of ghost..then draw your conclusion.

nitrogen:
https://www.nairaland.com/5868271/please-apartment-being-haunted-ghost

This one is strong o, is this sh1t ever possible? Ghost Ke?

Those things are better experienced. If you don't have first-hand experience of some things in life, you'll always believe life is merely all about what we see with the eyes. As some atheists think.

It's good people share this kind of experiences, and similar ones like near-death experience, out-of-body experience, etc. and be honest about them.

That'll spur research into these issues and help make the scientific understanding of things like death, soul (consciousness), etc. better.

Some researchers are specialized in these areas, which cut across fields like neuroscience, physics, and psychology.

gensteejay:

Those things are better experienced. If you don't have first-hand experience of some things in life, you'll always believe life is merely all about what we see with the eyes. As some atheists think.

It's good people share this kind of experiences, and similar ones like near-death experience, out-of-body experience, etc. and be honest about them.

That'll spur research into these issues and help make the scientific understanding of things like death, soul (consciousness), etc. better.

Some researchers are specialized in these areas, which cut across fields like neuroscience, physics, and psychology.

Answer this simple question bro, he even tagged you.

Bville02:
Gensteejay, Do you believe in the existence of ghosts and supernatural beings?

airmark:


Answer this simple question bro, he even tagged you.

I have experienced some of such "mysterious" stuff. But I'm not interested in any lengthy debate on that issue now (got a lot on my plate).

Why are you interested in my own view on this issue? I never told you I'm an atheist or stick to a particular philosophy or religion. If there's strong evidence in support of something, I take it as true.

I don't have a dogmatic, fixed stance on issues (always looking for more data/information).

Some people self

They don't believe in GOD

They don't believe there is anything like charm/juju

They don't believe in the existence of ghost

But they believe in Chelsea -Objective thinkers crew (OTC)

Ignorance always feels threatened by critical, objective, independent thinking.

If anyone believes there's strong evidence for any kind of juju/voodoo, they can create a thread in the Religion or Culture section and invite interested members to share their thoughts on the issue.

No point in discussing things like that here, and mods will later delete comments (you took time to research and type) and ban accounts.

That's a waste of time.

Una don start this morning again, na akudaya levels una wan dey drag now.

Una worry gan o

nitrogen:
https://www.nairaland.com/5868271/please-apartment-being-haunted-ghost

This one is strong o, is this sh1t ever possible? Ghost Ke?

uhmm

gensteejay:

I have experienced some of such "mysterious" stuff. But I'm not interested in any lengthy debate on that issue now (got a lot on my plate).

Why are you interested in my own view on this issue? I never told you I'm an atheist or stick to a particular philosophy or religion. If there's strong evidence in support of something, I take it as true.

I don't have a dogmatic, fixed stance on issues (always looking for more data/information).

izzou:
I think yes and no are very complex and difficult answers to give.

Shakushaku moves.

nitrogen:


Why should they be in shock and fear because a neighbour died?
Also, there are accounts of ghosts from the village visiting individuals in the city.

First of all, the feeling of sadness and loss of someone who you know personally dying can be overwhelming and shocking.
When you see someone today and the next day, you hear of the persons death and realize that you will never see or hear from that person ever again, that shock and loss can trigger your brain to manifest hallucinations or dreams about the person as a coping mechanism.

Secondly, that a lot of people share a belief doesn't make it true.

I too as a kid and teen used to believe and fear ghosts because everyone around me taught me so and also believed in it.
I remember when we traveled to my village for my grandmother's burial, the night after the burial, I fell asleep atop her grave, it was an elevated concrete surface so I fell asleep on it and because every one was tired and busy they forgot about me, that night I dreamt heavily about her and when I woke up late in the night outside, I was scared shitless, even the breeze outside made me believe it was her ghost still trying to talk to me. I ran into the house crying and screaming, The worst part about this is that after narrating the whole thing to my parents and relatives, they believed she must have been there and was trying to pass a message to me.
Looking back now, remembering that episode fills me with shame as to how educated people seriously believe in superstitions.

The brain is indeed a powerful complex mechanism.
Hallucinations are real, that is a medical and scientific fact. In extreme emotional or stressful stages, one can begin to hear and see things that are not there.

We humans haven't been able to fully decode the creation and enactment of dreams by our brain.
We are yet to understand how the brain is able to produce a visual environment where your innermost feelings are manifested. Or how if you are feeling pressed in the night, you see yourself urinating in your dreams.

As a matter of fact, when I was small I used to feel like a prophet who saw the future because I was experiencing moments I believe i had felt or seen before, it's much later I would get to realize that it was a very common feeling called dejavu, which everyone one felt. We haven't even fully decoded it yet.

As I said earlier, that we don't fully understand something doesn't mean we have to ascribe it a supernatural phenomenon.

Eventually we would be able to define it logically. It's just a matter of TIME.

airmark:






Shakushaku moves.

Like Hazard

gensteejay:

Like Hazard

You have only yourself to deceive, and you know it.

donjazet:


First of all, the feeling of sadness and loss of someone who you know personally dying can be overwhelming and shocking.
When you see someone today and the next day, you hear of the persons death and realize that you will never see or hear from that person ever again, that shock and loss can trigger your brain to manifest hallucinations or dreams about the person as a coping mechanism.

Secondly, that a lot of people share a belief doesn't make it true.

I too as a kid and teen used to believe and fear ghosts because everyone around me taught me so and also believed in it.
I remember when we traveled to my village for my grandmother's burial, the night after the burial, I fell asleep atop her grave, it was an elevated concrete surface so I fell asleep on it and because every one was tired and busy they forgot about me, that night I dreamt heavily about her and when I woke up late in the night outside, I was scared shitless, even the breeze outside made me believe it was her ghost still trying to talk to me. I ran into the house crying and screaming, The worst part about this is that after narrating the whole thing to my parents and relatives, they believed she must have been there and was trying to pass a message to me.
Looking back now, remembering that episode fills me with shame as to how educated people seriously believe in superstitions.

The brain is indeed a powerful complex mechanism.
Hallucinations are real, that is a medical and scientific fact. In extreme emotional or stressful stages, one can begin to hear and see things that are not there.

We humans haven't been able to fully decode the creation and enactment of dreams by our brain.
We are yet to understand how the brain is able to produce a visual environment where your innermost feelings are manifested. Or how if you are feeling pressed in the night, you see yourself urinating in your dreams.

As a matter of fact, when I was small I used to feel like a prophet who saw the future because I was experiencing moments I felt i had felt or seen before, it's much later I would get to realize that it was a very common feeling called dejavu, which everyone one felt. We haven't even fully decoded it yet.

As I said earlier, that we don't fully understand something doesn't mean we have to ascribe it a supernatural phenomenon.

Eventually we would be able to define it logically. It's just a matter of TIME.

Look for a nearby mortuary/cemetery

Ask the neccessary questions

And if u aint satisfied,carry out a research by sleeping there for atleast 3nights for maximum result.

If you aint doing thisno need for your curiosity



By the way do u believe in rain makers ?

airmark:


You have only yourself to deceive, and you know it.

Because I didn't say yes to some of the fake stories on Nairaland shared about ghosts and supernatural events. Keep believing everything you read on Nairaland then.

If you've nothing tangible to say, no point in derailing this thread further by quoting me unnecessarily.

airmark:


Answer this simple question bro, he even tagged you.

Lool. When bros don dey shalaye to a simple yes or no question, I don bone lol.

gensteejay:

Because I didn't say yes to some of the fake stories on Nairaland shared about ghosts and supernatural events. Keep believing everything you read on Nairaland then.

If you've nothing tangible to say, no point in derailing this thread further by quoting me unnecessarily.

All this na shalaye

U are trying hard to confuse yourself


Just a simple monosyllabic answer,

Segedinho:

Look for a nearby mortuary/cemetery

Ask the neccessary questions

And if u aint satisfied,carry out a research by sleeping there for atleast 3nights for maximum result.

If you aint doing thisno need for your curiosity
By the way do u believe in rain makers ?

Yes, I do believe in rain makers because even today, there are scientific methods of making rain fall or withholding it.
I believe China was able to fully utilize this during the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008 or so. They sprayed chemicals in the sky to withhold the rain from falling.

My guess is our own African traditional scientists were able to discover and utilize such phenomena much earlier. They didn't do it by invoking any supernatural being as you are most likely alluding to.

Segedinho:

All this na shalaye

U are trying hard to confuse yourself


Just a simple monosyllabic answer,

And what will my answer to do your soul? Ask your god if you need someone to verify/validate your beliefs.

donjazet:


Yes, I do believe in rain makers because even today, there are scientific methods of making rain fall or withholding it.
I believe China was able to fully utilize this during the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008 or so. They sprayed chemicals in the sky to withhold the rain from falling.

My guess is our own African traditional scientists were able to discover and utilize such phenomena much earlier. They didn't do it by invoking any supernatural being as you are most likely alluding to.

So since you belbelieve there is a scientific method.

Can you tell us how it is done with verifiable facts?so we can juxtapose it with our traditional way of making rains

gensteejay:

And what will my answer to do your soul? Ask your god if you need someone to verify/validate your beliefs.

the question was direct..

Do you believe in ghost

None of your contribution here has ever had any impact on mt soul bros.

Stick with one thing and dont be a doppelganger.

Bville02:


Lool. When bros don dey shalaye to a simple yes or no question, I don bone lol.

Confused soul.

Someone that read and believed Christ actually went to Ife to learn magic.

Segedinho:
the question was direct..

Do you believe in ghost

None of your contribution here has ever had any impact on mt soul bros.

Stick with one thing and dont be a doppelganger.

Why are you quoting me then?

As I said earlier, anyone that's strong evidence for supernatural stuff, create a thread and let's discuss such paranormal issues there.

Is that too difficult for you to comprehend?

Segedinho:
the question was direct..

Do you believe in ghost

None of your contribution here has ever had any impact on mt soul bros.

Stick with one thing and dont be a doppelganger.

He knew that the question was a booby trap for him. Most of these people are clowns.

YESHUA = ESHU

Objective thinkers crew

Segedinho:

So since you belbelieve there is a scientific method.

Can you tell us how it is done with verifiable facts?so we can juxtapose it with our traditional way of making rains

As I stated very clearly in my post, I said "i guessed". I told you that since there is already a scientific method of withholding rain, maybe our own African traditional scientists were able to discover it much earlier.
If you know of the precise mechanism via which they did it, you can publish your postulation here.
You just can't ignorantly continue to ascribe anything you don't understand as a supernatural out-of-world experience.

Expert17:
yESHUa or yESHU = Yahweh + Eshu
Objective thinkers crew

You got the drill about the etymology of your god's name. One of these days, I will discuss this better on the appropriate thread.

gensteejay:

You got the drill about the etymology of your god's name. One of these days, I will discuss this better on the appropriate thread.

You have to learn to ignore trolls. You have since stated that you don't really want to make your position on this issue clear here, so why the unnecessary back and forth? You have to realize you are surely exposing yourself to useless banter.
If you don't want to talk about the issue, simply ignore.

BlueRayDick:
Una don start this morning again, na akudaya levels una wan dey drag now.

Una worry gan o

Lol, wait sef, there is a town in south west that has many 'akudayas' (reincarnated - same body and soul o). If a family member dies, they will tell you to go to that town, you will find him or her enjoying life in the town, but they tend to disappear when someone that knows them in their previous life sees them (like eyeball to eyeball).

Interesting stuffs sha.

nitrogen:


Lol, wait sef, there is a town in south west that has many 'akudayas' (reincarnated - same body and soul o). If a family member dies, they will tell you to go to that town, you will find him or her enjoying life in the town, but they tend to disappear when someone that knows them in their previous life sees them (like eyeball to eyeball).

Interesting stuffs sha.

What's the name of the town? I would love to check it out and make some findings.

donjazet:


As I stated very clearly in my post, I said[b] "i guessed".[/b] I told you that since there is already a scientific method of withholding rain, maybe our own African traditional scientists were able to discover it much earlier.
If you know of the precise mechanism via which they did it, you can publish your postulation here.
You just can't ignorantly continue to ascribe anything you don't understand as a supernatural out-of-world experience.

Critical thinkers don't go with "gestures"

As u opined earlier,u deal with verifiable fact...

Don't forget in a rush sir


Dont u think there is something unusual with this vid??

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPZmdHyar4i8&ved=2ahUKEwixj5jilszpAhXj8OAKHWskDVkQwqsBMAB6BAgJEAM&usg=AOvVaw33AvE0xSV3KbJjb9Eu5qmW