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Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 10:09am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: You're just getting inflamed over nothing my friend! ![]() Whether you like it or not Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT, CANNOT and CAN NEVER be your brothers in FAITH, PERIOD! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:16am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer:There are 9 manifestations of the spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit. Rating zero or 0/9, is giving allowances for either I don't know, I have no idea, I don't want to stretch my neck out, I don't want to publicly commit myself to seeing I have rated the gifts, the bible hasn't rating any to be greater than the other, I prefer to keep quiet on each ones importance et cetera Rating 1/9, means, the gift given this rating, is the lowest in importance out of the 9 manifestations of the spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit. Is it now clear? Capisce? |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:20am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69:Nobody is getting inflamed. Have you seen the fire brigade turn up ni. Or you've heard their siren. Nobody gives a rat arse about you or JW. Why you bothered to try to sling in that "waasi" rant and rave, is just humorous, thats all |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 10:20am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: Lol I call it as it is. I'm not bound by any religious creed not to be able to speak the truth. It's you who sees the obvious contradictions in the bible and even in your organisation but you dare not speak. Otherwise you'll be castigated. JW as an organisation is a byproduct of the extreme effect of the contradiction of the bible. Example of which is this thread, while every one else believes in spiritual gifts, your leaders managed to impose their misinterpretation on you that 1 Corinthians 13:8 means spiritual gifts have ceased. Does that not contradict the very essence of spiritual gifts in the bible? Mark 16:17-18 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 10:25am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: If you're truthful about that then chill! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 10:26am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: That's the result of contradictions nah! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:41am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69:You should have thought first of chilling instead of jumping to irrational conclusions and begin to make a fuss over something that never happened. Smh. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Acehart: 10:50am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: Does this thread or writeup rather contradict spiritual gifts? Spiritual gifts wasn’t the focus of the writeup. The focus was the type of “tongues” practiced in the Corinthian church as it is done in many churches today. Did Augustine, Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon, D.L. Moody, William Booth, Charles Wesley, John Wesley, speak in “tongues” as it is done today in Pentecostal Churches, C&S, and CCC? The writing was to serve as a stumbling block and if you stumbled, the Lord knows why. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 10:51am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: The arrogance of ignorance. You believe the book of revelation was the last prophecy because those who arranged the bible made it the last book? ![]() Have you even heard of canonisation? It's difficult having any intelligent conversation with anyone from JW. Your organisation already warped your mind with years of misdoctrinations. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:53am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: Myer:[img]https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img] 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 10:56am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: It's OK neighbour! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 10:59am On May 26, 2020 |
Acehart: You misunderstand. I was referring to him specifically. While everyone else on this thread believes in spiritual gifts, his organisation doesn't, and with scriptural reference too. Hence the contradiction. Although, there's a contradiction in Acts 2 and 1 Corinthans 14 about whether tongues are known or unknown right? It takes being open minded to see the contradictions. I used to not want to see them too. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:59am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69:If it makes you feel better and sleep at night, just as like a freshly bathed baby does, please sir, be my guest to address or call me, whatever noun you fancy and/or whatever adjective that suits you |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:01am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: My friend, you need not worry yourself over whatever anyone believes about this book, you said it's full of Contradictions. So whatever anybody feels, think, say or do about this book should be a welcome development, at least from what you've concluded on the this book ! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 11:02am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer:You spoiled a good post with saying "there's a contradiction in Acts 2 and 1 Corinthans 14 about whether tongues are known or unknown right" and insisting that contradictions are therein |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:05am On May 26, 2020 |
Acehart: Hmmmmmmmm, I think all those people you mentioned don't have the spirit of God because they never spoke in tongues Sir! ![]() The truth will never contradict itself! All these gift were for a purpose in the first century, and once that purpose has been met the gifts are no more needed! Martin Luther King said "I had a dream" Talking of the way blacks are thriving in America despite the way whites were treating them. But today a Churchgoer Pastor will attach the title "Prophet" to his name afterwards! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:07am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Lol the travesty of honesty. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:11am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: The irony. Nobody actially wants to be identified with JW members. We simply have no choice but to tolerate them. After all, most of them are just victims. 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:12am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: Atleast they didn't claim spiritual gifts have ceased. 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 11:13am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer:Exactly, its a distorted representation of honesty |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 11:14am On May 26, 2020 |
[img]https://s7/images/Seeding.jpg[/img] "Wisdom is of utmost importance, therefore get wisdom, and with all your effort work to acquire understanding." - Proverbs 4:7 1 Like |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:15am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: I think they did if they never exhibit it! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:19am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: There's so much I could say about your deductive reasoning, but it's a weist. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:21am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: You missed the joke. We all believe we're speaking the truth on this issue. Yet, we are in disagreement. So who is telling the truth? |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 11:29am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer:I didnt actually miss the joke, what I've done is go ahead of you. Its true we both are speaking the truth, however the disagreement is because I am aware you believe there are existing from the original texts inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible, when there is nothing of the sort in the original text(s) |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:32am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: Nobody actually wanted to be identified with our founder too! John 9:22 compare to Act 24:5 As for the unwilling tolerance, it's because America has declared freedom of speech, expression and worship, otherwise we know you and your cohorts will not spare us after knowing we won't flow along with you! Act 4:18, 5:28 Jesus sent out his followers as "FISHERS OF MEN" so you're 100% correct about the men caught by Jesus' disciples! Luke 5:10 ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:33am On May 26, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: But even the Hebrew language and Greek also have multiple interpretations of the same words/sentences. Why do you think there's a myriad of bible translations? |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Myer(m): 11:35am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: Thus is what you need to understand. Stop comparing yourself to Christ or his disciples in the bible. Your very nature only reminds everyone of the Pharisees and Saducees who also felt they were more righteous than everyone else. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by hoopernikao: 11:42am On May 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: It seems you put the bold as to be a future events even from context of 1 Cor 13, I hope tongues and revelation are also seen as same by you since they were used in the same explanation as prophecy. We can conclude there is still TONGUES AND REVELATION, but not of speaking or revealing new things. Just thinking!! |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Acehart: 11:43am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: I’m sorry about my response then. Now concerning the man behind the name 69, I think your approach to him is misplaced; do you know why? Do you remember when Jesus spoke to the woman at the well, He dealt only with her sin? when she saw that she was being ripped apart, she wanted to turn the discussion away from her personal life and let it become a church vs church talk - “Our fathers worshiped on this mountain; and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship." That is what you and Muttleylaff are doing; you are playing on his turf. It would be acrimonious conversation in the end...so you have to take him to your turf. |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:45am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: There is no spiritual missile Satan can infuse your brain that God's word {Hebrew 4:12} will not render harmless {Isaiah 54:17} followers of this thread may not identify you as a seed of the Serpent {Genesis 3:15} but Jehovah has given us that discerning spirit to fish you out speedily! Once you condemned God's word (whether subtly or harshly) you have nothing to say that's of any use to one of Jehovah's Witnesses! ![]() |
Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by Nobody: 11:51am On May 26, 2020 |
Myer: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Jesus, Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and the rest are Jews Sir! So they all had the same attitude claiming they know better than everyone else when talking about their God! ![]() The only difference is while Jesus' disciples have love amongst themselves, all other Jewish religious groups never had PEACE amongst themselves! That's exactly what's happening today Sir! ![]() |
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