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BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked. If only you know how many marriages have been destroyed or are still suffering because of this, you will never think of falling for such a scam.

What baffles me is those who keep going to church but yet don't know anything about bible and will keep deceiving themselves that sex before marriage is a sin (WHICH YEYE SIN).

Many will say it's formication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible. Take for example when Joseph was dating Mary, yes we agree she was still a virgin because it was their own decision not to have sex yet but how many people realized that there were other young women that existed then as well. Many had boyfriends too and some had sex with their boyfriends while some didn't because Mary wasn't the only virgin.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Let's stop all these brohaha low African mentality of calling sex before marriage a sin. God only sees a clean and a pure heart, not who had sex when or how. You all should better respect yourself and save the doctrine of marriage by testing the waters to ensure you are ready to sail on that water for the rest of your life. Not after marriage you start looking for divorce because penis is too big or too small or maybe Virgina is too tight or too wide or its always one minute sex.

Haba.

Sex outside Marriage Remains A sin bro. Don't Justify Evil.dont get if twisted.. I still have Sex with my girl this morning. It's not easy. But I know it's very wrong.may God just forgive us

Bro, I really wish my writing skill was a little better. I would have conveyed my opinion with exactness which the knowledge I've met with has afforded me.

SEX outside of MARRIAGE is completely wrong regardless of the prevalent careless with which we conduct our sexuality and which tries to rob the act of it's genuine place in creation.

But first, an understanding of the concept of MARRIAGE must be established if we are to proceed aright. The true concept of the term far transcends our everyday idea and usage of it. By our customary and commonly accepted idea, a MARRIAGE is only contracted when a man makes before relatives a formal declaration of his intention to have a woman as his wife and fulfills the accompanying rites either in a traditional or western form, with the latter usually involving a public exchange of martial vows before a minister of religion.

How little have we sensed that the real MARRIAGE had already taken place before the physically visible form we are used to. The MARRIAGE which the bible and other books of spiritual importance talk about is contracted only when two souls (a MAN and a WOMAN ) whose souls harmonize spiritually are attracted by LOVE and wish to walk their paths together through complementing each others qualities for their spiritual development. THAT IS THE ONLY GENUINE CONDITION FOR MARRIAGE. The wedding and other Marriage rites only serve cultural and social purposes which are equally important but.
SEX therefore is only permissible under the GENUINE MARRIAGE and anything outside of it brings dishonor to the act and has consequences which must be lived through to the last.

Do we now understand that SEX can take place and still be kept pure before the wedding night and can as well be defiled even under what we have so far considered to be MARRIAGE?

MARRIAGES contracted solely under match making and other socio economic cosiderations do not qualify as MARRIAGE in the truest sense of the word and sexual intercourse under such an institution means a grave defilement of the act...
we'll continue later.. goodnight...

Believe what you want But the Word of God remains immutable and unadulterated. Yes you can do it if you want But it doesn't make it right. I would rather remain unmarried than live in a marriage knowing that another man has bleeped my wife. In order words, I 'purchased' what someone else, a man like me, got for free. No bro. Do you, make your choice but don't make my own choice for me.

BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked. If only you know how many marriages have been destroyed or are still suffering because of this, you will never think of falling for such a scam.

What baffles me is those who keep going to church but yet don't know anything about bible and will keep deceiving themselves that sex before marriage is a sin (WHICH YEYE SIN).

Many will say it's formication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible. Take for example when Joseph was dating Mary, yes we agree she was still a virgin because it was their own decision not to have sex yet but how many people realized that there were other young women that existed then as well. Many had boyfriends too and some had sex with their boyfriends while some didn't because Mary wasn't the only virgin.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Let's stop all these brohaha low African mentality of calling sex before marriage a sin. God only sees a clean and a pure heart, not who had sex when or how. You all should better respect yourself and save the doctrine of marriage by testing the waters to ensure you are ready to sail on that water for the rest of your life. Not after marriage you start looking for divorce because penis is too big or too small or maybe Virgina is too tight or too wide or its always one minute sex.

Haba.

The fact that you see it as a scam doesn't establish that it truly is... I was Sha waiting for you to define what fornication means, Daddy.
Its obvious you lack the slightest idea what self worth entails, I wish you were somebody that has sense��

It's okay to have you opinion but it's not okay to shove it down others throats.

Sex before marriage to me is not bad.

If you and your spouse are committed to each other, then i don't see any reason not have it before marriage.

LET GOD be True and every MAN a LIAR. Sex before marriage is a sin

tasalanoni:
Bro, I really wish my writing skill was a little better. I would have conveyed my opinion with exactness which the knowledge I've met with has afforded me.

SEX outside of MARRIAGE is completely wrong regardless of the prevalent careless with which we conduct our sexuality and which tries to rob the act of it's genuine place in creation.

But first, an understanding of the concept of MARRIAGE must be established if we are to proceed aright. The true concept of the term far transcends our everyday idea and usage of it. By our customary and commonly accepted idea, a MARRIAGE is only contracted when a man makes before relatives a formal declaration of his intention to have a woman as his wife and fulfills the accompanying rites either in a traditional or western form, with the latter usually involving a public exchange of martial vows before a minister of religion.

How little have we sensed that the real MARRIAGE had already taken place before the physically visible form we are used to. The MARRIAGE which the bible and other books of spiritual importance talk about is contracted only when two souls (a MAN and a WOMAN ) whose souls harmonize spiritually are attracted by LOVE and wish to walk their paths together through complementing each others qualities for their spiritual development. THAT IS THE ONLY GENUINE CONDITION FOR MARRIAGE. The wedding and other Marriage rites only serve cultural and social purposes which are equally important but.
SEX therefore is only permissible under the GENUINE MARRIAGE and anything outside of it brings dishonor to the act and has consequences which must be lived through to the last.

Do we now understand that SEX can take place and still be kept pure before the wedding night and can as well be defiled even under what we have so far considered to be MARRIAGE?

MARRIAGES contracted solely under match making and other socio economic cosiderations do not qualify as MARRIAGE in the truest sense of the word and sexual intercourse under such an institution means a grave defilement of the act...
we'll continue later.. goodnight...

Amen

hilaryCU:
Hello Everyone,

Please, I want to know how to recover a room that a tenant packed and left witj the keys.

The annoying thing is that, they are owing a year and six months rent. Please, how do I recover the room.

Thanks all

go to court and make sure you know where they are currently staying. get court injunction go pack all them stupid load

ibkayee:
Such a strong reaction from the majority of posters but what's happening in reality seems to say otherwise.

Or maybe the portion of posters here are the ones who are genuinely against sex before marriage and don't engage in it in real life, so they aren't necesarily representative of the behaviour trends of Nigerians as a whole when it comes to fornication...or maybe Nigerians are just really big hypocrites lol it could be either

I thought I am the only one thinking along these same lines...

Let's open another thread and ask people to tell us about their body count make u come see story....abi those ones are they from Jupiter?

Fornication is a sin but you lie,cheat in exams centers n work places, beat or kill your spouse, gossip, jealousy,embezzle public funds under your care....is the heaven for virgins different?

I will be MAD to propose marriage to a woman I have not slept with before.
Virginity is not a guarantee for a happy home n marriage.

Okoroawusa:

I thought I am the only one thinking along these same lines...

Let's open another thread and ask people to tell us about their body count make u come see story....abi those ones are they from Jupiter?

Fornication is a sin but you lie,cheat in exams centers n work places, beat or kill your spouse, gossip, jealousy,embezzle public funds under your care....is the heaven for virgins different?

I will be MAD to propose marriage to a woman I have not slept with before.
Virginity is not a guarantee for a happy home n marriage.

Lmao

Does no sex before guarantee a successful marriage?
Been a virgin does not mean she will be a good wife?
Testing it it before doesn't also guarantee a good home.
Whether u do it or not, try to marry someone u can satisfy and always make happy cus death is better than broken home.

If you want to engage in sex before marriage, that one is your choice we all have our choices, if you want to justify it you are free to do so but to come here and tell us 'sex before marriage is not a sin' is total blasphemy and not acceptable.

You even went as far as saying the bible doesn't condemn those who engage in premarital sex.



Even those who engage in premarital sex know that sex before marriage is a sin don't redefine what the bible states for us please.

What nonsense.

it saddens me how some people will just ignorantly write rubbish...you wrap up scriptures to justify your nonsense... like seriously.... how can you say this?

how then do you explain 1 corinthians 7:2, 7:8-9, Hebrews 13:4, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5, 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 among others....

I'd advise you to please scrutinize properly things before writing rubbish, especially when it has to do with biblical affairs. Mark 9:42 says: Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.


I haven't seen an illustration so illogical and dumb as this in a long time, so because there are other ladies at those times who had premarital sex justify that it is allowed and not a sin, are you this unthoughtful, if mary had deflowed herself then she won't be privileged to birth our Lord Jesus.

you talked about small penis and all. All those wouldn't matter if we all follow the principle and guidance of the bible... God actually wants "two novices" who haven't tested sex before to have it at the right time. by that, no one would be complaining of small penis or whatever rubbish you have said because you are new and would be completely satisfied with whatever your partner have. it's because you have tested several Pu**y and D**k and have watched many mind-destroying videos that is why you can complain of small dick and less style orientation...

please, for the fact that it's a generalized thing that people do doesn't make it right.... Sex before marriage is a big sin, in fact one of the most dangerous sins to ever commit..... do not listen to this uncle rubbish... I hope you'll find a place for yourself on that last day....

BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked. If only you know how many marriages have been destroyed or are still suffering because of this, you will never think of falling for such a scam.

What baffles me is those who keep going to church but yet don't know anything about bible and will keep deceiving themselves that sex before marriage is a sin (WHICH YEYE SIN).

Many will say it's formication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible. Take for example when Joseph was dating Mary, yes we agree she was still a virgin because it was their own decision not to have sex yet but how many people realized that there were other young women that existed then as well. Many had boyfriends too and some had sex with their boyfriends while some didn't because Mary wasn't the only virgin.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Let's stop all these brohaha low African mentality of calling sex before marriage a sin. God only sees a clean and a pure heart, not who had sex when or how. You all should better respect yourself and save the doctrine of marriage by testing the waters to ensure you are ready to sail on that water for the rest of your life. Not after marriage you start looking for divorce because penis is too big or too small or maybe Virgina is too tight or too wide or its always one minute sex.

Haba.

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boyjo:
In JESUS name, Nairaland cannot destroy the weak or feeble minded ones. They all escape your trap and come to the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

If na Muslim talk this one now you go say they want to islamize u?

All these religious people una no well.

Okoroawusa:

I thought I am the only one thinking along these same lines...

Let's open another thread and ask people to tell us about their body count make u come see story....abi those ones are they from Jupiter?

Fornication is a sin but you lie,cheat in exams centers n work places, beat or kill your spouse, gossip, jealousy,embezzle public funds under your care....is the heaven for virgins different?

I will be MAD to propose marriage to a woman I have not slept with before.
Virginity is not a guarantee for a happy home n marriage.

Wtf are you saying?
Are you an atheist?
If so, fine.
But if you claim to be christian and you're spewing this rubbish, you need help.
We sin, yes but we never justify it!
Sin is sin!

Mind you, that you pray in his name does not make you his son.
Christians today are just by name.
The bitter truth is, the ones who accept they're sinners and change are the ones that'll make heaven.

Never you ever as a christian, justify sin!!!!!

You must check for what before marriage, huh?
That's how you'll be checking and fall prey of lust!
Everybody thinks marriage is all about sex, well brother, you'll marry a IndecentStar and might still end up with a divorce!!!

Damn, I have respect for you and some of your comments but justifying sin is crap!

Such a useless thread,nothing good to learn from this shallow generalizations

arthorjnr:


Wtf are you saying?
Are you an atheist?
If so, fine.
But if you claim to be christian and you're spewing this rubbish, you need help.
We sin, yes but we never justify it!
Sin is sin!

Mind you, that you pray in his name does not make you his son.
Christians today are just by name.
The bitter truth is, the ones who accept they're sinners and change are the ones that'll make heaven.

Never you ever as a christian, justify sin!!!!!

You must check for what before marriage, huh?
That's how you'll be checking and fall prey of lust!
Everybody thinks marriage is all about sex, well brother, you'll marry a IndecentStar and might still end up with a divorce!!!

Damn, I have respect for you and some of your comments but justifying sin is crap!

What about people that are not Christians? People whose culture it's not to marry as virgins? ( a tribe in Malawi practice that. Google is your friend)

Which God will they be sinning against?

And your talk about marrying a porn.star n it ending in divorce is contradictory. There are well known pastors who are divorced today. Did they marry porns.tars? Infact they are people who married as virgins but today they are no more together. Whose fault it is?
Are u aware that they are men married to former prostitutes n they proudly tell you that it was their best decisions marrying that woman because they are having a wonderful marriage?
Are you also aware that they are woman married as virgins n they cheat on their husbands? Those women end up as bad cooks,nags, troublesome,gossips, quarrelsome n making the marriage a living hell for the man?

Igbos say, "Ebe ima nkea ima nke ozo?". Meaning "If you know one thing do you know the other?"

Op, I will not argue with your opinon over your post or who you are because satan knows the bible in order to justify why one should sin, hence your quote from the bible to justify your aim- to mislead people.

Sexual immorality is a great sin, hence God specifically gave the law to man.
Op, since satan is out there to kill and destroy, he has sent you to gather souls for him, I cannot challenge your adultrous life with your post. You will be ready to pay for whatever you have sowed. Stop decieving people.

hilaryCU:
Hello Everyone,

Please, I want to know how to recover a room that a tenant packed and left witj the keys.

The annoying thing is that, they are owing a year and six months rent. Please, how do I recover the room.

Thanks all

Serve on him 7 days owner intention to recover property as his rent already expired so no need for notice to quit.

After the 7 days elapse file a claim in court since he ran away and won’t be coming to court the easier for you to obtain summary judgment and get the court to come break in seize his property and give you possession of the apartment.

Feel free to consult me if you’re more than serious.

What dirty opinion you are seeking when you have already draw conclusions. Africa and their backward way of thinking... Even a wayward and notorious guy knows sex before marriage is Sin.
Sex is powerful, that fluid you call semen is unification.

BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked. If only you know how many marriages have been destroyed or are still suffering because of this, you will never think of falling for such a scam.

What baffles me is those who keep going to church but yet don't know anything about bible and will keep deceiving themselves that sex before marriage is a sin (WHICH YEYE SIN).

Many will say it's formication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible. Take for example when Joseph was dating Mary, yes we agree she was still a virgin because it was their own decision not to have sex yet but how many people realized that there were other young women that existed then as well. Many had boyfriends too and some had sex with their boyfriends while some didn't because Mary wasn't the only virgin.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Let's stop all these brohaha low African mentality of calling sex before marriage a sin. God only sees a clean and a pure heart, not who had sex when or how. You all should better respect yourself and save the doctrine of marriage by testing the waters to ensure you are ready to sail on that water for the rest of your life. Not after marriage you start looking for divorce because penis is too big or too small or maybe Virgina is too tight or too wide or its always one minute sex.

Haba.

VickyRotex:
Mr. English Dictionary, welldone! So what is the definition of fornication?

I stopped reading at this point: "Many will say its fornication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible"

Like are you for real? please scholar, what's the "true" meaning of fornication in the bible?

The fact that we go against some set rules/morale standards (and I'm talking in general here) doesn't justify our acts, neither does it change what is right.
It's even funny how you reference the other people living in the time of Mary. And so what? Because they engaged in pre-marital sex automatically means its not a sin? It's like saying because "sinners" existed in the time of Jesus and some even became His disciples, so believers should also keep sinning that Grace may abound.

I'm so happy you're ranting. you know why? its because you're being convicted for something you've done or planning to do. You just dont know it. There are different phases in conviction, so dont worry, you're getting there.


And it's so funny you say African mentality? really? is that what you were told? because a lot of foreign churches actually preach marriage and purity. maybe you should make more research on that and expand your knowledge.

I understand if I'm having this conversation with an atheist, but if as a "believer" like you claimed you are, you dont see fornication in the bible the way it is clearly defined, then I dont know what to say to you.

And please don't bring up the "let he who is without sin" card. There's a difference between admitting/acknowledging one's sin vs being ignorant about it and defending it at all cost.

Btw, please dont quote me. Cos even if you do, I wont be responding to any quote on this thread.

Selah!

GOD BLESS YOU O!!!!!!!!

We should not behave as a lost generation, sex before marriage is sinful before God. The Holy Creed tells us so. Our generation must never be manipulated or deceived on this. God bless our generation.

VickyRotex:
Mr. English Dictionary, welldone! So what is the definition of fornication?

I stopped reading at this point: "Many will say its fornication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible"

Like are you for real? please scholar, what's the "true" meaning of fornication in the bible?

The fact that we go against some set rules/moral standards (and I'm talking in general here) doesn't justify our acts, neither does it change what is right.
It's even funny how you reference the other people living in the time of Mary. And so what? Because they engaged in pre-marital sex automatically means its not a sin? It's like saying because "sinners" existed in the time of Jesus and some even became His disciples, so believers should also keep sinning that Grace may abound.

I'm so happy you're ranting. you know why? its because you're being convicted for something you've done or planning to do. You just dont know it. There are different phases in conviction, so dont worry, you're getting there.


And it's so funny you say African mentality? really? is that what you were told? because a lot of foreign churches actually preach marriage and purity. maybe you should make more research on that and expand your knowledge.

I understand if I'm having this conversation with an atheist, but if as a "believer" like you claimed you are, you dont see fornication in the bible the way it is clearly defined, then I dont know what to say to you.

And please don't bring up the "let he who is without sin" card. There's a difference between admitting/acknowledging one's sin vs being ignorant about it and defending it at all cost.

Btw, please dont quote me. Cos even if you do, I wont be responding to any quote on this thread.

Selah!

thanks these generation and premarital sex are like 5 and 6. they will alway try to interprete the scripture in way that will suit them

Get a lawyer or report the case to police!

hilaryCU:
Hello Everyone,

Please, I want to know how to recover a room that a tenant packed and left witj the keys.

The annoying thing is that, they are owing a year and six months rent. Please, how do I recover the room.

Thanks all

For many who want marriage before sex I hail.
For me, I run am before marriage and I nor regret.
Any religious restriction na their pocket.
Go check,
girl wey you want marry still fit born for you?
Many don remove belle more than 15 times.
Now days wey dem remove belle from 16 years to 29 years.
Check am!

BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked. If only you know how many marriages have been destroyed or are still suffering because of this, you will never think of falling for such a scam.

What baffles me is those who keep going to church but yet don't know anything about bible and will keep deceiving themselves that sex before marriage is a sin (WHICH YEYE SIN).

Many will say it's formication but they don't even know the true meaning of fornication as referred to in the bible. Take for example when Joseph was dating Mary, yes we agree she was still a virgin because it was their own decision not to have sex yet but how many people realized that there were other young women that existed then as well. Many had boyfriends too and some had sex with their boyfriends while some didn't because Mary wasn't the only virgin.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Let's stop all these brohaha low African mentality of calling sex before marriage a sin. God only sees a clean and a pure heart, not who had sex when or how. You all should better respect yourself and save the doctrine of marriage by testing the waters to ensure you are ready to sail on that water for the rest of your life. Not after marriage you start looking for divorce because penis is too big or too small or maybe Virgina is too tight or too wide or its always one minute sex.

Haba.

I don't blame u at all because it's your opinion. But I really blame whomsoever that pushed this to d front-page.

Because you had sex before marriage now you feel like dragging others along with you.
Bro follow you pattern and wherever it leads you enjoy its fruits but don't misunderstand and mis quote the BIBLE.

YOU BODY REMAINS THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

BobbyHammar:
Anybody who still believe in the scam of no sex till marriage needs to get their head checked.

The bible never condemned those that had sex with their boyfriends before marriage but it was just the divine choice of the Father to select a virgin rather than a lady that had sex already.

Haba.

Receive sense. That you lack moral discipline does not mean you should twist the Bible in support of your uncontrolled sexual lifestyle.

It's disastrous to promote what God condemns.

ibkayee:

I feel it can be a bit impractical since sexual compatibility is an important part of marriage, but that's just for me personally. I think it's fine and their business if anyone chooses to stick to it, but I also don't think it's unreasonable if you choose not to either (there are understandable points on both sides, it's a personal choice and everyone is different).

It's just one of those things I'm conflicted with when it comes to the Bible...

hmmm. u have a point there. If at all 4 being sincere

My brother honestly you’re still under bondage
Spirit of your old
Or let me put this way
You are still under control of your ancestral, foundational, and parental spirits
I am sure that’s your parents begot you without going under due process
And that spirit that lures them in fornication
Is also with you
You then think � that the best thing is for you to spread it .
So you haven’t came across where it is written in the scripture that thou should separate thy self from the multitude
You should be different among others bro I don’t want to speaking as if am a preacher
But be warned stop � deceiving others
If you think � sex before marriage is the best for you than go ahead with it but you still have your self to be blamed
That’s How we put ourselves in bondage
“Africa mentality” ever since we started adopting the bad life styles of westerners what progress have thou bring to unto us Absolutely nothing .